The Syndicate

I assumed Eloh was Cammy after Simon was like "Eloh is probably Cammy" and she was super insistent I say lie detectible things.

I'm normally not cool with softclaiming when one isn't allowed to hardclaim but I was okay with that. Cammy could have been anyone else. Yet as more and more people died, I became more convinced I was correct.....was I?

(Nice cover up, me.)

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:40 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:21 am Yeah. Inactivity kills. With 8 players left, like 3 had no significant posts. Really hard to tell who is bad at that stage.

Doc Wilgy seemed to be soft claiming M Bison, saying he wanted townie Speedchuck dead, even after he flipped. Eloh was also obvious town. My death hurt her the most. It also hurt Mal, who I would have defended for another day (see my reactions to Fred early in Phenon) but I would have turned on him sooner than later.

Mal and Sloonei both should have been lynched awhile ago. Everybody was suspicious of Mall all game. Sloonei was clearly coasting.

We were never going to catch Simon and JJJ/Sprit/Serge. We were never going to clear Blooper/DF.
I was lynched a while ago.

Yeah, by one player.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:15 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:21 am Yeah. Inactivity kills. With 8 players left, like 3 had no significant posts. Really hard to tell who is bad at that stage.

Doc Wilgy seemed to be soft claiming M Bison, saying he wanted townie Speedchuck dead, even after he flipped. Eloh was also obvious town. My death hurt her the most. It also hurt Mal, who I would have defended for another day (see my reactions to Fred early in Phenon) but I would have turned on him sooner than later.

Mal and Sloonei both should have been lynched awhile ago. Everybody was suspicious of Mall all game. Sloonei was clearly coasting.

We were never going to catch Simon and JJJ/Sprit/Serge. We were never going to clear Blooper/DF.
Never going to catch Simon? He was caught two days ago, and the inactivity was so pronounced that we were unable to complete the lynch.

Was he more or less active than Blooper or DF?

I didn't say he wouldn't have been lynched. I said he wouldn't have been caught.

That all said, GG mafia.

The town earned the loss more than the mafia earned the win but ya'll still played well. Ice skating is a skill.

Yeah. Inactivity kills. With 8 players left, like 3 had no significant posts. Really hard to tell who is bad at that stage.

Doc Wilgy seemed to be soft claiming M Bison, saying he wanted townie Speedchuck dead, even after he flipped. Eloh was also obvious town. My death hurt her the most. It also hurt Mal, who I would have defended for another day (see my reactions to Fred early in Phenon) but I would have turned on him sooner than later.

Mal and Sloonei both should have been lynched awhile ago. Everybody was suspicious of Mall all game. Sloonei was clearly coasting.

We were never going to catch Simon and JJJ/Sprit/Serge. We were never going to clear Blooper/DF.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:30 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:27 pm @Elohcin

Lol, I hope you didn't take offense, none was intended I assure you.
I'm no millennial. I don't think its cool to take offense to every little thang. You're cool.

Perfect. Tyvm, Daisyb

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:49 pm @Jackofhearts2005

I'm turning at mention off for you specifically until we can get it sorted.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:35 pm One last post for now.

@Jackofhearts2005

How is it "fake" and "analysis"? There really isn't any analysis in there. Diiny asked me a question about who I would name as scum. At the time, I felt very unsure about any scum reads. I explained this at length. There's no analysis there. Either you believe my musings or you don't. So do you?

There are flames to be fanned -- Sloonei almost got lynched yesterday in part because of the joke suspicion you initiated. I'm not sure how you can say otherwise.

Also, re: "1) You backed off all your suspicions of participating players to push the Bass train."

No. You're going to have to substantiate how I "backed off" suspicions. I never had any scum reads, so that's either a manipulative misrepresentation and I'm tempted to call bullshit on you or you're misremembering my posts. I threw out various musings about potential suspicious behavior but swatted away most of it amid uncertainty and reasons to town read those players.

The new ats won't stop trying to get me to mention myself. Can't use paragraphs or the mention autoinserts and chops a sentence or so off my post. My next reply is about this post.

I'm curious myself, Dom.

If MP is lying and he does actually suspect LC, he must be town.

So what are you on about?

Yeah, Simon and Mal in particular need to give me more.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:16 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:42 pm
Diiny wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:31 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:15 pm I'm cautious because this is me. If I were to display any amount of confidence on Day 1 I'd be full on in MP hurricane mode based on very little and that typically doesn't end as well for town as I'd like it to, to put it lightly. I find that town benefits much better from me being cautious than careless.
I remember you being a tad more brazen than this in our games on OT. I like that you've stuck your neck out for some people, but tbh conversely that ties in with my fear of you treading very lightly.

If you had to choose right now, who's scum? Is your vote staying on squid? show me some fire without any actual consequences.
Probably. I'm sure I'll get brazen at some point here too like I almost always do, but my record at actually catching scum when I put my foot full on the brakes is almost certainly laughably bad. Especially early on in games the past couple of years, I try to be as measured as possible, but I'll still poke something if I feel there's something worth poking. As the game progresses I'll probably be more likely to pursue something doggedly. It depends inevitably on what happens though. If I really thought there was something super suspicious in the thread right now I'd be all over it, I think anyway. As it stands, unfortunately I think this game is a more typical Day 1 -- there's a bunch of weaksauce cases to be made that may or may not be totally legit, and I'm not in love with any of them -- specifically, the thoughts people have said re: any of the players with votes right now (Sloonei, JOH, LC, and speedchuck). With that said, however, I'm most potentially swayed by dunya's observation of LC. Just not ready to pull the trigger on it. Not convinced in the slightest by any of the others.

If I had to choose right now... ugh. I'm terrible at scum reads early in the game and these days much prefer to play POE for the first phase or two because I think it plays to my strengths. That said, I suppose I'd pick two or three of Bass, DFaraday, Dom, DrWilgy, Elohcin, and malakim to be bad (and which I choose would be basically luck at this point because none of them have literally anything substantial to judge), and then one of the players with votes right now that have some heat (JOH, Sloonei, LC, speedchuck -- GTH I'd pick LC), and then one of the more talkative bunch so far (you, Jay, dunya, Sloonei again, Blooper -- GTH I'd pick Jay). So LC, Jay, and two lurkers basically. I think.

As for what I'd do with my vote, it's very likely moving away from Blooper. I don't feel anything bad about her right now; it was basically RVS. I'd most likely vote for Bass. Not sure yet. It'd be nice if more folks popped in here soon so I can sort through how everyone else is feeling.
I hate this post. Whole lotta nothing. Like trying to guess the plot of a show. But there is no script, no writer playing up drama, just players playing and thus, no strength behind these ideas.

I dislike his interactions with LC a lot (in that LC comes out on top and MP comes across dishonest) and of course, his push on Bass, a townie.

At this point, MP is my top suspect.
I don't care if you hate it; why would this make me bad?

What specifically do you dislike about my interactions with LC? Point out what comes across as dishonest.

Blaming me for a townie death seems awfully convenient. I take full responsibility for my vote, but I wasn't the only one to vote for Bass, and I'm never going to be right all of the time. His alignment basically came down to a coin flip. Turns out this was a bad one. Oh well. It happens. If I hadn't done anything, we would have had an unknown entity flying through to LYLO because he would have likely not gotten forcibly replaced. I've seen it happen too many times before, and I didn't feel comfortable enough voting elsewhere. You think that's bad, that's your prerogative, but it's not.

It's potentially fake analysis. That's baddieish.

Here's a specific post where you look dishonest.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:12 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:11 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:36 pm Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?
.... then this post was literally two posts later, right after another post by JOH:

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:12 pm Could be. I also thought it was weird, calling Dhalsim an alien.
How is that NOT fanning the flames of JOH's suspicion, LC?
Because it wasn't a real suspicion. We both know it.

You are fanning flames, in this very post.

There's no flames to be fanned regarding me suspecting Sloonei. Yet there was undo focus on LC and Speedchuck, primarily because of you. (Of course, if you turn out to be good and one of them turns out to be bad, this isn't a problem. Still, didn't feel like a useful route to go down, looking back.)

I primarily blamed you for the Bass vote for two reasons.

1) You backed off all your suspicions of participating players to push the Bass train.

2) Players I suspected of being buddies with you followed.

Now, I'm gonna retract 2. So....we'll just see about Bass being important or not as other people flip.

I don't think Mal's vagueness is alignment indicative.

Not yet.

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention]

One mobile, once you at anybody, you get an obnoxious blue box that pastes a mention (sometimes deleting other text in the process) if you click it or hit return.

There is no way to get rid of it from what I can tell.

For instance, if I at Daisy, I get a blue box that says Daisy Loan Shark. There's no way to get rid of her.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:13 am
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:24 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:07 pm Hmm...kind of both actually. When I read her poats, I hear her excited voice. She seems overly happy. Is this just RL infiltrating her mafia meta? Is it that she is bad and wxcited about her role and being on a btsc team? I am unsure as of yet.
Thanks for the elaboration! That's an interesting observation. I'll agree that she is a bit more posty than a typical game although not completely out of character (see: Clue where she and I chatted a lot on D1, if I recall correctly), but I haven't found anything questionable in her content. She could be bad I suppose and hiding behind a lurker vote to avoid having to fake suspicions, and so I questioned her a bit earlier, but I don't have any reason to believe to be true at the moment.

Do you have any thoughts on any of the RYM-based players (Diiny, dunya, Jay, Sloonei) or anyone else for that matter? I assume you would have stated something outstanding otherwise when you said stuff about me/LC/Simon, but I figured it doesn't hurt to ask.
I don't have anything to say about the RYM players as it will take me a bit to get to know them first, I think.

You're right that voting blooper really does no good anyway. It would just make it easier for mafia to blend.

I don't have anything to say about the current wagons. I don't understand them, tbh.

I guess I need to vote before going to watch tv with Epi and going to bed. My eyea burn, I'm so tired. Um......has bass even poated anything all game?
Yuck yuck.

Eloh follows this up by voting Bass for the stated purpose of saving Sloonei.
Do you find it unbelievable that a town Elo would come into the thread, read it hastily, and not understand any of the arguments made by/about Sloonei, you, etc.?

I tend to expect all town players who do not understand to ask clarifying questions.

Stating you don't understand the case on a player (especially if you come to find out it's a case against a baddie), shrugging and voting elsewhere is not a typical townie reaction imo.

But to answer the question, "no."

On second thought, I am in fact town this game.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:50 pm JoH are you civ THIS game?

I'm not sure I'm allowed to answer this.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:17 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:52 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:48 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:50 am @Speedchuck

What do you think of Eloh?
ISO'd her just now.

I give it 65% odds she's bad.
Assume Eloh is bad (cause this is otherwise a worthless exercise).

What do you make of her vote and interactions when it comes to Sloonei, Simon, MP and Blooper?
What are you hoping to gain from this exercise?

Can't think of anything?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:41 pmHence part of my suspicion of MP and his accusations of LC falling flat.
As MP may or may not tell you, he actually defended me.

To avoid misinterpretation or whatever: I believe this is mild buddying.
Felt like a backtrack for sure.

Him heavily townreading me after I made one joke post also reads as buddying. It has been stated that I tend to read based on myself more than I really should. I've been wary of buddying attempts of late, especially from Mass Effect players.
Please display where I heavily townread you, because I don't believe I ever said such a thing. I did you throw you into my townreads based on gut really, but that's about it. If you think that's buddying, OK, that accusation is hurled at me nearly every game. I like to focus on town reads, so it's a byproduct of that.

Do you have a greener green on your rainbows you reserve for heavy town reads?

Elohcin wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:56 pm JackofHearts, are you civ this game?

Eloh, I'm always a civ.

More to the point, PokeEloh can be looked at for comparison.

ASOUE, I thought Eloh was disingenuous and she was bad.

Pokemon, I strongly thought she was good for some reason and she was.

In Nightvale, I strongly thought she was good, then when she pretended not to understand the LC case (which I strongly believed) and throw away voted Dom, I strongly believed her to be bad with LC and she was.

We've played other games together but I don't remember them. Iirc, I thought she was bad when she wasn't in one of them.

So...maybe I have a good grasp on Eloh but maybe I don't.

You cannot use certain BBCodes: [mention.

My ats aren't red.

@speedchuck

But capitalization matters?

@Speedchuck

I think she is bad.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:05 pm oh nevermind there's a fucking "isolate posts" button lmao. new forum, new things.

Hey Dunya

Who is bad besides MP, Eloh, LC? (I don't think LC is bad, I just want some original thoughts.)

Mal is a copy cat.

malakim2099 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:39 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:04 pm I don't like this voting for someone who doesn't post. I'm not saying MP is scummy because he initiated it, I just think it sucks for all. can't no shows be replaced with other players?
I think this combined with his consumption of most of the day going round and round with LC makes him suspicious. To me at least.

Again, maybe the long-time players can correct me here, but it just seems fishy is all. I could easily be off base.

Hey, Mal.

Who is bad?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:44 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:35 pm I thought Eloh was wushu washy in Nightvake in the exact same way she is here.
She went back and forth in night vale, but not usually in the same post. A sampling of her D1/N1 posts that game:

"I actually like this response to Epi. I think if someone grasps onto this "reason" for why Tony may be mafia, they should be looked at more closely as maybe being mafia themselves."

"So in other words, you're going to vote for someone based on your weaknesses? I think you may have my vote."

"If I could cqhnge my vote it would be to you. You're acting very scummy."

"I think I'm seeing a town golden."

"Who was it that said, "please don't vote jack" out of nowhere yesterday at end of day 1? I wanted to inquire about that."
Me, that was me. I did that. "Why did you say it?"

In night vale, Eloh flopped back and forth, sure. But she made statements. She called out things, questioned people, made calls on reads. Whereas in this game Eloh has been wishy-washy. I know it's backwards, but meta-wise: Is Eloh's current act just town unsureness?
Or is Eloh's more confident act something she does when scumhunting, since night vale had two scumteams? That would make her more scummy this game.

linki: Because of her non-committal statements, Sloon. I'm trying to figure out if Eloh's meta points one way or another right now.

How's about

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 42#p365942

and

http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 30#p366030

Pretending not to understand a case and jump the gun voting for someone she doesn't actually suspect? That's what bad Eloh did in Nightvale and that looks like what she's doing here, too.

I thought Eloh was wushu washy in Nightvake in the exact same way she is here.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:00 am I had Eloh interactions?

Eloh weighed in on you. I know what I think of that. I wanna know what Speed thinks of it.

And LC.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:48 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:50 am @Speedchuck

What do you think of Eloh?
ISO'd her just now.

I give it 65% odds she's bad.

Assume Eloh is bad (cause this is otherwise a worthless exercise).

What do you make of her vote and interactions when it comes to Sloonei, Simon, MP and Blooper?

@Speedchuck

What do you think of Eloh?

Bold doesn't show up so well. "I don't understand these lynch trains" is the yuck part.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:24 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:12 pm
Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:07 pm Hmm...kind of both actually. When I read her poats, I hear her excited voice. She seems overly happy. Is this just RL infiltrating her mafia meta? Is it that she is bad and wxcited about her role and being on a btsc team? I am unsure as of yet.
Thanks for the elaboration! That's an interesting observation. I'll agree that she is a bit more posty than a typical game although not completely out of character (see: Clue where she and I chatted a lot on D1, if I recall correctly), but I haven't found anything questionable in her content. She could be bad I suppose and hiding behind a lurker vote to avoid having to fake suspicions, and so I questioned her a bit earlier, but I don't have any reason to believe to be true at the moment.

Do you have any thoughts on any of the RYM-based players (Diiny, dunya, Jay, Sloonei) or anyone else for that matter? I assume you would have stated something outstanding otherwise when you said stuff about me/LC/Simon, but I figured it doesn't hurt to ask.
I don't have anything to say about the RYM players as it will take me a bit to get to know them first, I think.

You're right that voting blooper really does no good anyway. It would just make it easier for mafia to blend.

I don't have anything to say about the current wagons. I don't understand them, tbh.

I guess I need to vote before going to watch tv with Epi and going to bed. My eyea burn, I'm so tired. Um......has bass even poated anything all game?

Yuck yuck.

Eloh follows this up by voting Bass for the stated purpose of saving Sloonei.

@Dom

Yes and no.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:15 pm To reiterate/clarify a point I made earlier: I don't think Jack was being serious about his desire to vote for me. His temptation to vote for me boiled down to a "That's racist, man!" joke. I read nothing into it. That it was then picked up, apparently, by speedchuck and Long Con is something worth pursuing in the absence of anything more substantial.

Linki x100: Stop posting so I can post!
I think I agree, but I simultaneously also hesitate to scum-read speedchuck or LC for doing something so brazen. Again this is anecdotal, but in my mind more often than not, most people who play scum roles try everything possible to get the spotlight off of them on Day 1, not put it on them. And what speedchuck and LC did was risky if they're scum.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:49 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 11:41 pmHence part of my suspicion of MP and his accusations of LC falling flat.
As MP may or may not tell you, he actually defended me.

To avoid misinterpretation or whatever: I believe this is mild buddying.

Felt like a backtrack for sure.

Him heavily townreading me after I made one joke post also reads as buddying. It has been stated that I tend to read based on myself more than I really should. I've been wary of buddying attempts of late, especially from Mass Effect players.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:57 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 6:40 pm Hi Blooper!
I'll get the hang of nicknames soon enough

Good luck town! It's 12.40am in Sweden and Monday morning emplloyment awaits.
Ooo, Sweden. I'm fascinated by other places because I've never been off the east coast of the United States.

I think Simon is civ. I agree with MP that his contributions seem solid. I will also say that Simon is right in that we were talking about street fighter costumes for Halloween. We like to dress up as a family sometimes and I was asking who Abigail (my daughter) and I could be. I was unsure of how many girls were in the game. And I brought up how the characters wear almost nothing and we couldn't dress like skanks (well ever!) but specifically at the end of October. Anyway. That's all I'll say about that.

I don't think LC is bad at this time. I'll tell you if I change my mind on that.

I don't think MP is bad atm either. He likes to get his boxers in a bunch Day 1, I've learned thia of him. So I don't pay him any mind.

I don't know who is bad yet, but if I had to guess it would be niju. She is awful chatty for her meta. Maybe she is just happy with that new ring on her finger. But she is definitely acting outside her usual self.

Also, sorry for not being present today. I was out all day with lots to do.

I don't like this handwavy defense of MP.

I don't like her town reading Simon when all Simon has done is town read her. Reads like a congratulations for reaching a conclusion she wants.

(I almost always scumread Eloh but she's almost always bad when we play together.)

Diiny wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:37 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:32 pm
Diiny wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:20 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:28 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 12:25 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:36 pm Sup Din and Dun. What's your story?

Tempted to vote Sloonei for the alien comment.

Do we think the day one poll did anything? Power up Ryu maybe?
I'm not convinced it did anything. Hard to say though.

Why exactly are you tempted to vote Sloonei?
For saying Dhalsim is an alien.

I guess I could say that pretending to not know a theme is scummy but really, it's that Dhalsim is just an Indian dude. Calling him an alien? Thas racist.
Why would it be within scum's interest to pretend not to know this game's theme?
An excuse to be less helpful. Saying things to say things. I don't disbelieve Sloonei, though, hence my emphasis on bs over actually arguing his point was scummy.

You like to toss votes out early, generally speaking? Or are you extra suspicious of me? Or is this your day one style? Trying to get a feel for you.
How does not knowing the theme make them less helpful when all the roles are transparrent and explicitly outlined? What advantage does an SF fan have here?

I do like to toss votes out early, but I'm still concerned that you're saying things for the sake of saying things, to use your own language. Game mechanic speculation and whether ryu was superior to ken in mvc2 takes second place to scumhunting, ESPECIALLY on day one.

1) Secrets
2) Hinting
3) Writeup analysis

It's all less applicable with an open setup. I'm not actually accusing Sloonei of lying, though, so it's not really important. Hence part of my suspicion of MP and his accusations of LC falling flat. LC's interpretation of my posts was on point. MP attempted to make something of nothing.

Ken was. There's no denying it.

I feel you, though. Don't necessarily agree but I'm trying to get you, not agree with you.

Diiny wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:29 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:32 pm Listen, I only ever played X-men vs. Streetfighter and in that game Dhalsim was a levitating blue elastic man who breathed fire and I was 8 years old. What was I supposed to think?
Normal Indian guy who does yoga.
Believe I asked you a question- fancy answering it?

Who's scum, Jack?
Who's scum?

MP. Maybe Eloh.

Not LC. Not Blooper. Probably not you.

Also, what a finale. Game of Thrones.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:42 pm
Diiny wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:31 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 7:15 pm I'm cautious because this is me. If I were to display any amount of confidence on Day 1 I'd be full on in MP hurricane mode based on very little and that typically doesn't end as well for town as I'd like it to, to put it lightly. I find that town benefits much better from me being cautious than careless.
I remember you being a tad more brazen than this in our games on OT. I like that you've stuck your neck out for some people, but tbh conversely that ties in with my fear of you treading very lightly.

If you had to choose right now, who's scum? Is your vote staying on squid? show me some fire without any actual consequences.
Probably. I'm sure I'll get brazen at some point here too like I almost always do, but my record at actually catching scum when I put my foot full on the brakes is almost certainly laughably bad. Especially early on in games the past couple of years, I try to be as measured as possible, but I'll still poke something if I feel there's something worth poking. As the game progresses I'll probably be more likely to pursue something doggedly. It depends inevitably on what happens though. If I really thought there was something super suspicious in the thread right now I'd be all over it, I think anyway. As it stands, unfortunately I think this game is a more typical Day 1 -- there's a bunch of weaksauce cases to be made that may or may not be totally legit, and I'm not in love with any of them -- specifically, the thoughts people have said re: any of the players with votes right now (Sloonei, JOH, LC, and speedchuck). With that said, however, I'm most potentially swayed by dunya's observation of LC. Just not ready to pull the trigger on it. Not convinced in the slightest by any of the others.

If I had to choose right now... ugh. I'm terrible at scum reads early in the game and these days much prefer to play POE for the first phase or two because I think it plays to my strengths. That said, I suppose I'd pick two or three of Bass, DFaraday, Dom, DrWilgy, Elohcin, and malakim to be bad (and which I choose would be basically luck at this point because none of them have literally anything substantial to judge), and then one of the players with votes right now that have some heat (JOH, Sloonei, LC, speedchuck -- GTH I'd pick LC), and then one of the more talkative bunch so far (you, Jay, dunya, Sloonei again, Blooper -- GTH I'd pick Jay). So LC, Jay, and two lurkers basically. I think.

As for what I'd do with my vote, it's very likely moving away from Blooper. I don't feel anything bad about her right now; it was basically RVS. I'd most likely vote for Bass. Not sure yet. It'd be nice if more folks popped in here soon so I can sort through how everyone else is feeling.

I hate this post. Whole lotta nothing. Like trying to guess the plot of a show. But there is no script, no writer playing up drama, just players playing and thus, no strength behind these ideas.

I dislike his interactions with LC a lot (in that LC comes out on top and MP comes across dishonest) and of course, his push on Bass, a townie.

At this point, MP is my top suspect.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:30 pm Unconvinced about what JOH?

Blooper being bad.

(Game of thrones is gonna keep me from doing much useful now.)

@Eloh

lol consider me unconvinced.

But congrats to Blooper.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:08 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:58 pm @LC

Why is MP a suspect?

I'm reading this thread like I eat a burger, from both ends to meet/meat in the middle.
His treatment of the Dhalsim-alien situation is false. He's been talking about it, deciding out loud whether or not he thinks it's suspicious, defending me mildly about it, when he should have been saying "This isn't worth discussing because neither player was leveling anything close to a serious suspicion. It was talk about a character, that was all."

Yeah. But clutching at straws is what you do on day one sometimes? Except you look for scum clutching at the smallest straws or refusing to or pretending to.

(Confession time: I tend to lynch townies on day one while trying to encourage HCRealms to lynch day one anyway. Leaves me a bit rudderless. I'll deal.)

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:07 pm Hmm...kind of both actually. When I read her poats, I hear her excited voice. She seems overly happy. Is this just RL infiltrating her mafia meta? Is it that she is bad and wxcited about her role and being on a btsc team? I am unsure as of yet.

Does Blooper play SF? Does she like being bad or particularly like SF villains?

Is there IRL reason for her to come across extra cheerful?

Okay. Getting to the Dii going after MP bit and I dig it so far.

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