The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:51 pm If there aren't protective/blocking roles then I don't think there's even a reason to implement a rule against double-targeting. I think that's something that has just become typical or standard here over the years. There are sites that never have that rule. RYM rarely had it.

I think that silencing roles (which are objectively bad but whatever) shouldn't be allowed to double target.

Being silenced once isn't fun. Being silenced four days in a row kills 100% of the enjoyment of a game and I say this from personal experience.

If stopping a doc from parking on one player is the other goal of the double targeting rule, I say scum should be allowed to double target with the kill and doctors can double target after a successful save.

Fun game, Captain. Laughed every time Jimmy posted.

Fist bump to Speed. Couldn't have won without ya.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:49 pm Well one thing I can say for sure:

I'm never doing a CFD again.

Don't knock it.

That's how we caught two baddies, you and Quin.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:34 pm Even though I'm pretty sure I singlehandedly lost the game for everyone by being really bad at everything I enjoyed this game a lot and it was a pretty good reintroduction back into games.

Thank you Sloonei and Jay for hosting
Funny. I'm the one with that feeling right now.

Few things make me few so weak and incompetent than playing mafia in this site. It's like everybody is multiple orders of magnitude better than me at the game, as both civ and bad.

I've been beaten up so badly here that it shaped by playstyle. I used to be a lot more confident when I first came here. Now I changed my playstyle, but it doesn't seem like it's working either.

Your old avatar gave off more confidence.

Arrr!

Should have voted no lynch.

Or DDL's

Not really a fan of Sog's absence.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:10 pm Okay so what are even the likely pairs of mafia at this point?

Off the top of my head, Sig, Bob, me could be paired with anyone.

Speed, DDL probably not buddies cause D2, too chummy (meh).

I'll just keep going forward and reread my own summaries as I go in case I forgot anything.

Aaaaaand I'm caught up.

MP's performance as about to be lynched townie is cute.

All the more reason to go no lynch.

Ugh.

Reading Day 2.

Speed basically throw away votes MP after not really being into him on D1 and in fact, practically mirroring MP's attacks on Wilgy. Could he be bussing? Sure.

DDL, after CFDing to potentially save MP, argues himself into the opposing lynch train again. Could he be trying to save his scumbuddy? Sure.

But is Speed trying to early bus his buddy while DDL defends his teammate to the end? No, probably not. I could see them doing their "he's good" dance if they were teammates. But they aren't on the same page on D2. Not even the same chapter.

DDL's case starting post 947 against Dunya is ugly. Basically asks others to convince him that Dunya is bad, States Dunya as good then tinfoils himself into a Dunya vote anyhow.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:09 pm @colonialbob

Who is Speed's partner?
Sig or you. Just did a quick ISO of him, confirmed my gut that you two are his most likely partners but didn't really give me clarity on which. Feel like he defended DDL too much early to be teammates, and the only reason you over me is that I know I'm town.

That's not the answer I expected but I like it.

If it's you and Speed, the easy answer is "DDL" but that's not what you said.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:45 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:04 pm Something that bugged me about the last day phase was the way MP was acting so panicked about getting lynched when he was in 2nd place to Quin

Something that bugged me part 2: was the way Quin pushed me to explain the ping of suspicion towards him and then Speedchuck used that as the definitive reference to discredit the case against Quin
He was leading the lynch when he came online. Also he had a zillion pages to catch up. So it makes sense if he was panicked.

[mention]colonialbob[/mention]

Who is Speed's partner?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:09 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:01 pm I'm taking a break, these are the vote posts please let me know if i missed anything, or if you have anything to add

Spoiler: show
NewTraditionalist
No Vote

SpankGangsta
No Vote

Kyle
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:01 pm my wifi is acting wonky rn so i'm putting my vote on MP for now. i won't necessarily keep it there, i just don't want to miss the vote
DDL
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:52 pm Quin is focusing so much on the merits of fake claiming I'm getting the feeling he's doing that as an excuse not to hunt baddies.

*votes Quin*

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:48 pm Ok Im still here.

I dont like this day end.

I dont like how quin and mp are not voting each oter.

Cfd on wilgy guys?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:47 am Voting Sig.
SD
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:51 pm My gut still says DDL. When I read his ISO one of the things I noticed was that early on he was pushing other people for reads when he himself had not provided any. Additionally, his back pedalling on Sig and now his treatment of the Quin/MP situation. I feel like he is hedging. I'm voting DDL.
Sig
sig wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:00 pm Can't talk in class will explain vote later (Quin)
Long Con
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:09 pm Voting No Lynch, because I only like to see people walk the plank. Lynching is is distasteful.

Linki: Also G-Man is scary.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:28 pm Eeeennh... let's see how DDL flips before we condemn you for this one.

Voting DDL. He's scum.

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:35 pm
Spoiler: show
Dragon D. Luffy
1
Voters: Long Con

Kylemii
1
Voters: dunya

MovingPictures07
2
Voters: Kylemii, DrWilgy

NewTraditionalist
2
Voters: MovingPictures07, sig

Quin
2
Voters: speedchuck, Dragon D. Luffy

No Lynch
1
Voters: Quin
There's a snapshot of the lynch before I cast my final vote and go to work. Three vote leaders at this time, and MP07 is my biggest suspect among those three. I will change my vote to MP07, and It's not going to change.
Dr.Wilgy
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:59 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:29 amIs Kylemii an old player here (or elsewhere)? I know he's trying to find his footing, but some trends in mafia are ubiquitous. You're in here, Kyle. I'm expecting more.
Just because I'm not throwing accusations yet doesn't mean I'm not working. On day one I suspected you for being too gung-ho so I asked everyone the dog thing and found out that that's kind of just who you are as a person along with some other stuff.

Now I'm working on something else

What specifically do you want out of me?
(Kyle)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:59 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:54 pm Oh I see I’m joining a wagon

Still going ti keep my vote there but I don’t think we should let anyone become a consensus or avoid putting pressure on as many people as possible. Spread the love around. Lol
(MovingPictures07
I don't know after that but he ended up with his vote on DDL, maybe here?
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:00 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:37 pm Dragon D. Luffy - Posts
Quin - Posts

Speedchuck
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:45 pm 1 little, 2 little, 3 little MP posts
4 little, 5 little, 6 little MP posts

Actually, a no lynch gives town some time to get free info if there is an info role. Quick math:

No lynch:
D1: 10 players
D2: 9 Players
D3: 7 Players
D4: 5 Players
D5: 3 Players (LYLO if 1 scum)
D6: Scum overrun if we get here and game isn't over.

Lynch on D1:
D1: 10 Players
D2: 8 Players
D3: 6 Players
D4: 4 Players (MYLO if one scum)
D5: 2 Players Scum overrun if we get here and game isn't over.

So in each case, ignoring D1 on the no-lynch side, town gets the same number of days to try and lynch the scummers. No matter how many scum there are. For every scum, take off a day's worth o' time. See how it works? An' the No Lynch D1 gives townies more info on their allotted lynch days.

HOWEVER!

This only works perfect if'n we got no doctors, vigs, or scumblockers. So I'm more inclined to lynch a scallywag on the bright and early day.
Long Con, what say ye ta that?

Shiver me timbers if'n I ain't about to throw a vote on me swabbie Dunya, fer the brine'd do 'im good I reckon!

linki: I am a cat. I swat at people until they respond, and then run away.
I kid. I have no idea what my gameplay style is. I've been told it's analytical, with a lot of chewing over motive and vote placement.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:52 pm 3 minutes later:

Nah, DDL's good. I'm going to vote to make Sig our first wagon of the day.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:53 pm lol.

Kylemii: Quin cares too much about addressing his case!
Dunya: MP doesn't address his case!

These are both stupid lines of reasoning. I'm moving to wilgy.
Dunya
Dunya didn't use the word "vot" with any of her votes. i think i remember her putting in at least one other vote but i can't find it
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:07 pm Sorry MP I really panicked and felt like you were taking me on a ride. I wish I had 3 hours with you to assess everything new you said.
Quin
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:52 pm And I don't know what any of you are talking about, because no lynch is objectively a good strategy.

linki: yeah dogs are gross
(no lynch, i think?)
Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:47 pm May as well through our self-pres votes on, MP. I'm willing to go elsewhere with it if we can swing it though.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:54 pmnvm i voted wilgy
MP
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:19 pm Putting a pressure vote on LC because I need him to elaborate ASAP.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:48 pm I’m moving my vote to Wilgy. Please explain your thoughts/conclusions.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:18 am Okay, well unfortunately I am out for the night, and tomorrow I’ll be pretty busy with work, a concert, and prepping for company. I’ll see what I can do though.

I don’t know what Wilgy is doing but I presume he’s trying to use emoticons to communicate solely for whatever crazy reason he does these things, and I’m honestly miffed that he hasn’t elaborated further but I hesitate to say it’s nefarious. I think he’s throwing out reads so it’s something. It’d be nice if he could say more but I find difficulty seeing his current behavior as scummy, just vague and mildly infuriating. I also know he tends to gut read me as scum when’s he’s town nearly every damn game (like sig and Dom), so his vote on me actually makes me think he’s ok GTH.

My town reads are Kyle, Wilgy, and sig. I am tentatively leaning town on dunya and speedchuck but can’t sort either of them yet. Everyone else is a ?.

I guess I’ll move my vote to Daisy now. I need to hear what she’s thinking.

Good night folks. Generate that awesome content, keep it up.

Linki with sig, thanks for responding. Care to elaborate why you are against fake claims?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:50 pm MOving my vote to Kyle

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:15 pm Oh there’s no unvote... huh.

Alright throwing a vote on NT

Ugh it’s raining again my phoneeee

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:53 pm moving my vote to NO LYNCH as I do some investigation, I guess a lurker lynch is preferable to my own, but I want to make it clear that I don't advocate it at this time. I wouldn't have kept my vote there, but my time has been limited and I honestly had no idea what to do with it, then my phone stopped working last night.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 4:56 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:35 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:22 pm
Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:21 pm discussion of no lynching is a great way to bring early content into the thread though.
also puts LC in a good light for me.
+1
This is Quin's first post regarding anything alignment-related. It's not ideal because it's just echoing someone else's sentiment without explaining why he feels that way.

I feel comfortable enough moving my vote to Quin for now, partially out of self-preservation but because I've already seen enough in his ISO that leaves some to be desired. I'll keep digging a bit though.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:15 pm Quin, why are you town? Help. I came into the thread into a similar situation. If we're both town, I need you to work with me here.

I'm moving to DDL while I await your further response.
(this vote was late and didn't count but i think it is important to include anyways)
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:01 pm Fuck, I'm tied.Moving to Wilgy for self-pres I guess.

this spaghetti mess

Worth reposting.

Sig, school is for nerds.

DDL's most likely scumbuddy is Speed (defending all game).

CBob's most likely scumbuddy is Speed (bussing in an attempt to get us to lynch anyone but him next time we lynch, which would result in a scum win).

Speedchuck is second voter on MP train the day MP was lynched.

Problem?

Yeah. Speed still most likely baddie. Day 1 and Day 4 votes are ridiculously suspect. Same goes for DDL and Bob but once each, not twice.

No idea who most likely Sig or Kyle buddy would be. Kyle top townie, now. Sig needs to get in here.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:55 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:28 pm It seems the towniest thing to do is not be here for the latter half of the day. Thanks GTH reads.

What means this?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:35 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:25 pm Reminder there is a good chance Daisy protected someone who is already dead.
I took that into account.

That's a blind guy?

I thought it was a cool guy with sunglasses and a cigarette. Idk how many posts I've misinterpreted over this.

[mention]Kylemii[/mention]

Suppose DDL is bad. Who would you pick as his most likely buddy. Speed?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:05 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:21 pm Dragon D. Luffy

Tell me about town reading Kyle and Speedchuck. Are you still townreading either of them?

Btw, Kyle is higher up based on EOD 1. If he's bad, why let MP tie for lynch? Why not cement Wilgy (who was all over him) as lynchee?
I've been townreading Speed because I thought the way he was defending me when no one else was felt genuine.

I'm more torn up on Kyle... dunno how to read him. But I liked his defense against the no lynch thing, and I still think he looks better than the other two because of self defense.

Of course, you know there's a chance you're being pocketed. Speedchuck still look genuine to you?

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "self defense?"

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:25 pm Reminder there is a good chance Daisy protected someone who is already dead.

I took that into account.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:46 pm
MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:26 pm GTH Exercise -- Night 1 -- Results

Spoiler: show

Alright folks, here are the results from the GTH exercise.
Worth noting. Not sure what to do with this but here it is.

Okay so I found a thing to do with this.

At the time of Daisy stopping a kill (Night 1), her town reads were: Kyle, LC, NT(Bob), Sig, SG(Jack)

Kyle had just placed a vote on MP. He looked to be not contributing much and have received some flak, largely from MP himself. Yet, a few posts before the night, MP was not pushing Kyle as scum and some of Kyle's stuff seemed pretty genuine. Possible this was a successful doctoring.

Bob's slot and mine were unlikely targets.

LC had been on MP's butt. Lynching Wilgy and shooting LC would have likely made MP look extra bad. Plus, not worth doing with all the scum reads, here. LC was the most townreading player, though, and would have made a decent kill/doc target.

Sig was a bit in the weeds, voting alone D1. Like LC, very townreading and a pretty good kill/doc target.

Conclusion: This doesn't move the needle much for me but it makes Sig and Kyle look slightly better, esp Sig...which isn't that helpful.

Will watch for indication of Daisy strongly town reading one of these five slots later in the game.

NewTraditionalist wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:14 pm Shiver me timbers, mateys. The 3 sided coin decided the 1st days splinterfoot. I wasn't able to see any of yas as surely bad but hopefully that changes.

my only read so far:

Kylemii = good (for being concerned re: distracted driving...how can that be a scum poster?)

I hope to dodge the flintlock this evening and see all of you with the sunrise.

^Rare BobTraditionalist content. Not really helpful atm but maybe later.

Not really relevant but what is "player salad?"

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:58 pm Legacy read scum team is LC, Daisy, and maybe dunya or maybe an inactive

Seems MP was not attempting to distance at all.

Leads me to believe his Kyle attacks are opportunistic, not distancing. More reason to lean Town on Kyle.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:33 am Inb4 wolves are Jack and Sig.

Also @sig where are you? Come to the playground.

Lol I would love to replace in to a game like this with Sig as my scumbuddy.

I checked the thread this morning and for some reason (this happens a lot), I managed to logout between the "check your posts" page and actually being on the pirate mafia page. So when the pirate mafia page loads, the votes are locked...cause I can't vote cause I'm not logged in. So I'm thinking the poll already ended and we're gonna get a dice roll to determine the game.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:00 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:52 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:29 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:22 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:19 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:39 pm I'm treating this like a typical Realms D1. If we end up on no lynch organically, fine. But by assuming it from the start we're missing out on a chance at gathering info.
Thing is, we are beyond the point of gathering info. That ship sailed last day.

It's lynch mafia now, or lynch mafia tomorrow. It's time to decide the game.
But if we decide no lynch from the outset today, we do this all tomorrow with the only change being who mafia kills. And since there's no power roles left we can assume the mafia will kill the townies person.

Alternatively, we hunt today. We may find a consensus on a mafioso, in which case great. We may not, in which caee we're back at scenario 1 but with another day phase of hunting to look over. I just don't see the downside.
Why are you equating no lynch with no hunting?
For the same reason hunting on D1 while saying you aren't going to actually vote for anybody doesn't work. You've got to have the threat to made the words stick.
Hunting is about more than threats?

You're still answering my questions, aren't you?
Yes, and it's really getting us places, isn't it?

*buy you as a townie

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:03 pm I wasn't really even aware of the concept of Lylo or Mylo. I didn't know that you as a thing, because it never was a thing. In the games I'm used to it's never actually over until it's over, because of role powers and multiple other strategic variables.

which is why it's actually really weird to me that it didn't occur to speedchuck in any of his strategy based arguments about why I shouldn't let myself get lynched

Indeed!

I but you as a townie voting no lynch yesterday.

I have a hard time seeing good Speed or good Bob doing so.

[mention]Kylemii[/mention]

Who is bad?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:30 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:46 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:58 pm
If you'll notice, I'm doing the opposite of apologizing. It's hidden in the parenthesis, so I understand if you missed it.
That isn't my point. The point is that you were discussing whether you were feeling bad or not about Wilgy's flip even though he hadn't flipped yet.

Granted a lot of people did that and some of them are probably civ. But yours called the most of my attention, specially since you voted for him.
Let's put it this way, taking MP as an example. Let's say I was 30% on Wilgy being scum, and 40% on MP. Who should I have voted for?

Most people would say MP. Maybe they would be right. I voted Wilgy. Why?
Because town loses a lot more with a town MP lynch than a town wilgy lynch. Because Wilgy was acting in a way that I practically policy-lynch over. Because Wilgy isn't going to get easier to read as days go on, as MP will, and I might as well get him out of the way early.

I think Wilgy caught on to that he wasn't technically my biggest scumread at the time, and was aggravated that I voted him. So I (didn't) apologize. Granted, I was hyped up on self-righteous irritation, but that's where I was.

If you'll recall, not only had wilgy not flipped, but I didn't know at that point who had even been lynched.

So I wouldn't say that I was feeling good or bad about Wilgy's flip, per se. I was discussing how I felt about his possible lynch, and my decision to vote him. And I felt pretty good about it.

Scummy.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:29 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:22 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:19 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:39 pm I'm treating this like a typical Realms D1. If we end up on no lynch organically, fine. But by assuming it from the start we're missing out on a chance at gathering info.
Thing is, we are beyond the point of gathering info. That ship sailed last day.

It's lynch mafia now, or lynch mafia tomorrow. It's time to decide the game.
But if we decide no lynch from the outset today, we do this all tomorrow with the only change being who mafia kills. And since there's no power roles left we can assume the mafia will kill the townies person.

Alternatively, we hunt today. We may find a consensus on a mafioso, in which case great. We may not, in which caee we're back at scenario 1 but with another day phase of hunting to look over. I just don't see the downside.
Why are you equating no lynch with no hunting?
For the same reason hunting on D1 while saying you aren't going to actually vote for anybody doesn't work. You've got to have the threat to made the words stick.

Hunting is about more than threats?

You're still answering my questions, aren't you?

[mention]speedchuck[/mention]

I see you. Tell me why you shouldn't be lynched/who is scum.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:22 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:19 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:39 pm I'm treating this like a typical Realms D1. If we end up on no lynch organically, fine. But by assuming it from the start we're missing out on a chance at gathering info.
Thing is, we are beyond the point of gathering info. That ship sailed last day.

It's lynch mafia now, or lynch mafia tomorrow. It's time to decide the game.
But if we decide no lynch from the outset today, we do this all tomorrow with the only change being who mafia kills. And since there's no power roles left we can assume the mafia will kill the townies person.

Alternatively, we hunt today. We may find a consensus on a mafioso, in which case great. We may not, in which caee we're back at scenario 1 but with another day phase of hunting to look over. I just don't see the downside.

Why are you equating no lynch with no hunting?

[mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention]

Tell me about town reading Kyle and Speedchuck. Are you still townreading either of them?

Btw, Kyle is higher up based on EOD 1. If he's bad, why let MP tie for lynch? Why not cement Wilgy (who was all over him) as lynchee?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:14 pm I want to lynch one of the no lynch people and Bob is the only one I've never read as a civ.

Going to go with him for now.

My current rainbow is

Me
Sig
DDL
Kyle
Bob
Speed

But I won't be joining you on this as long as no lynch is a possibility.

My head is running circles about Bob and his relation to Speedchuck and likelihood of his alignment based on his vote. All WIFOM.

I need more from Bob.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:04 am If there isn't at least one baddie who voted no lynch last day I'm banging my head on my keyboard.

I would be surprised if they weren't both there.

Even though this is not townie behavior imo. I still think you are good.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:16 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:09 pm @Dragon D. Luffy @speedchuck

Can you walk me through your Day 1 Wilgy votes? Wilgy would have been my top town read at EOD 1.
I was undecided about both the Quin and Mp lynches and thought the lynch was going to shit.

I thought of doing a CFD and went after Wilgy which I had no read on, because I heard other people saying they wanted dead so I imagined there was a chance I could make it happen in the 10 minutes I had. The point was to get a succesful CFD to happen and destroy the current status quo. Basically just make some chaos.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:57 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:15 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:05 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:01 pm
We haven't.
Not yet, but it is looking like the best move.

Though you can argue whether it's better to do it now or in Day 6
Uh, are we at MYLO now?
Dragon D. Luffy
colonialbob

Yes!

I have no idea why anyone is voting or contemplating voting for anyone.

There are no more power roles. A mislynch is a mafia win.
We can win if we lynch right today, no lynch next, and then lynch right again in the next day.

I'm not decided whether that or no lynching now is the best move, tho.

In one universe, we go no lynch today then lynch a mafia member tomorrow.

In another, we lynch a mafia member today and go no lynch tomorrow.

I see no advantage to either scenario in terms of the final day.

It's purely choosing to force the scum to give us an advantage or sacrificing that advantage for no good reason.

But let's not get bogged down. Who is bad?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:30 pm So let's be productive. Tell me about your vote.
Gut mostly. Also didn't like the voters in Wilgy D1, and quin already turned up town.

Forgive me if I don't think risking the entire game on the gut of a playervwith very little content. DDL also voted Wilgy Day 1.

I know why I suspect Speed more than DDL. I'm not convinced you actually do.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:26 pm GTH Exercise -- Night 1 -- Results

Spoiler: show

Alright folks, here are the results from the GTH exercise.

Worth noting. Not sure what to do with this but here it is.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:26 pm Wow that sucks.

Sorry Wilgy.

This is what happened, guys: I wasn't feeling very sure on either the Quin or the MP lynch. And don't even get me staretd on NT because I despise lynches on inactives.

So I saw someone mentioned they wanted Wilgy to be punished for his posting. I didn't have an opinion on him at all. But having seen CFDs work in the past, I thought "why not?" and tried to push one on him. Maybe it could reveal us something. I dunno.

It didn't work though.

Though it might have revealed something, from what I'm seeing (I'm not fully caught up)

Fuck it. Answering my own questions.

This answer sucks.

Speedchuck' answer is "cause his limited posting was stupid and anti town" to which I agree in principle but in this specific example, Wilgy was hunting boldly and that was not taken into consideration by Speed when he should have.

So this answer sucks too.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:35 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:04 pm Dragon D. Luffy TOWN
dunya TOWN
Kylemii SCUM
Long Con SCUM
MovingPictures07 SCUM
NewTraditionalist SCUM
Quin TOWN
sig TOWN
Spacedaisy TOWN
SpankGangsta SCUM
speedchuck TOWN

Wow I feel like those are all terrible. Made me realize I actually feel decent about Quin after the lynch. Gutfeel at least.
Relevant.

Kyle's version (consolidated)

DDL Town
Dunya Town
LC Town?
MP Scum
NT (Bob) Town, I guess
Quin Scum
Sig Town
Daisy Town
SG (Jack) Town
Speed Maybe scum

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:04 pm Dragon D. Luffy TOWN
dunya TOWN
Kylemii SCUM
Long Con SCUM
MovingPictures07 SCUM
NewTraditionalist SCUM
Quin TOWN
sig TOWN
Spacedaisy TOWN
SpankGangsta SCUM
speedchuck TOWN

Wow I feel like those are all terrible. Made me realize I actually feel decent about Quin after the lynch. Gutfeel at least.

Relevant.

So let's be productive. Tell me about your vote.

Actually, I already know what Speed will say and am unconvinced. I wanna hear from DDL.

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