The Syndicate

If I was a wolf I would have won the coinflip tho.

I’m satisfied with knowing who the wolf was at F5.



Lots of laughs had and Nanook played really well.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 03, 2020 12:44 am Actually it doesn’t matter, does it

I’m Mafia, I have to kill DDL cause I can’t risk the doc save, Tony and jack will be confirmed tomorrow when Jack’s thing doesn’t get blocked, so it doesn’t matter whether I out now or I’m outed later. I can make one of your votes not count for me so it’s a coinflip unless one of you is 3p that wants to mafia side.

Lol oh well.

Nanook choosing that option is a good sign lol.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 11:40 pm Not insignificant chances that DDL has to hit the doctor

I hope you picked a good poll. Kingmaker is basically an autowin unless Nanook has to be lynched twice or something.

So we’ve got that going for us, which is nice.

I mean, if Nanook has a way to auto win or if there was a second wolf, game would be over.

It doesn’t matter if it’s just Nanook. But I guess we’ll see.

Ay lmao pathetic, me.

Shiiit.

There’s 17 players. There probably are 4 wolves.

I feel like dead chat is probably mad.

I’m sending my action like two seconds after the night starts.

Goddamn it.

Why if it’s Tony?

20 min to go.

I’ll like pretend to freak out if the wolf doesn’t want to freak out.

I’m hugely anticipating Nanook pushing the fuck out of DDL tomorrow after this plan confirms me and Tony.

I’m hugely anticipating that not working at all.

So a decent part of me is waiting for the other shoe to drop because it can’t just be that tomorrow.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 10:46 pm Maybe Mac is the last scum.

The game Tony and me played where everyone was town in the final day (made worse by lynching the last wolf at f4, who flipped town) ended with us lynching the host ftw.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 10:48 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 10:47 pm For some reason, I honestly do feel like I'm losing the game here today by doing this, and I'm scared.

Why couldn't you guys let me do this yesterday?

Cause we didn’t know Speed would die and imo it was more important to get Nanook, Juliets and Speed than confirm Tony and me.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 10:51 pm And that's really where my head is at right now. I feel like this plan either wins us the game 100% of the time or just guarantees town loses right here and now. I really hope it's the former, lol.

And that’s the problem.

Anyone who fights against this solve looks like they’re trying to fight out of a mechanical solve because they’re the wolf.

I’m comforted by the idea that a wolf double voter is screwed by the nk being blocked, a vote stealer is screwed by his vote steal being blocked and even a strongman takes us to final 3 tomorrow.

I don’t think there’s a way the wolves mechanically win by lynching you today.

Or like actually frame Tony instead of just make sure I’m not gonna hear that argument tomorrow.

Or actually push on DDL.

Or claim 3P.

If it was me, I’d probably be doing what I’m doing and string ya’ll along for another day for the lulz.

I want it to be DDL just because that would be the most interesting game.

If it's Hyena, Tony or Nanook, we probably just win. If it's DDL, we're proper fucked and Nanook will majorly flip out tomorrow and it will be hilarious and impressive.

linki: That would be a perfect reason for him to not claim and would be even more hilarious.

Like idk Hyena probably just forfeits here if it’s him. Still an hour or so to go though.

Maybe Nanook (or maybe maybe maybe I don’t think so maybe DDL) is the wolf and expecting a town lynch and then to beat the other tomorrow.

Maybe not an amazing poker face because there’s been some minor freak outs but nobody is currently pushing against lynching Hyena and town winning or seeing Jack/Tony getting blocked and town winning or then lynching Nanook and town winning.

Someone is keeping a good poker face because we’re on a path that should lead to a town win.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 6:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:55 pm If the poll goes through, we still don’t 100% know your poll isn’t a day action.

Hyena got mod confirmation this won't be an issue.

I care less about it actually being an issue and more about you thinking it isn’t one so I’m fine with the plan as is.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:45 pm Wait a second....

If what I'm suggesting is true, then Nanook probably isn't mafia because 1.) Jack would be 3p, not him, 2.) Nanook wouldn't be mafia who thought I could be 3p yesterday (and hence avoided lynching me), because he'd already know Jack is 3p.

[VOTE: Jack] aubergine

Tell you what. After we lynch you, if there’s a kill, I’ll at that point make an argument for why I’m town instead of 3P.

It’ll go something like “There is no evidence of a 3P role in this game.”

Hyena wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:43 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:41 pm Tbh it just sounds like you’re looking for an avenue you don’t get TKed in now

Explain Speedchuck not posting then. It feels like you're trying to avoid that topic.

Lol [mention]speedchuck[/mention]

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:41 pm Tbh it just sounds like you’re looking for an avenue you don’t get TKed in now

My reaction every time someone tries to do anything today tbh and my fear of what people will think I’m doing when I try to talk about our path tomorrow.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 4:11 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:58 pm It doesn’t even make sense for the poll to be night action during the night it’s being voted on.

Suppose Tony is blocked during the night. The poll was up before the block was submitted.

I don’t know I’m just repeating hyena, who says he’s quoting the mods. Please give me meaningless poll entries. I’m thinking “town get +.1 votes” but my last decimal point voting plan got shut down

If we go to 4 then Speed’s desperado option becomes good

Yeah, the desperado one is good.

What about kingmaker? Did you already do that?

I don’t think I’m voting for you anyway. I want to have this conversation with [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] and [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] and they could help submit poll ideas too.

It doesn’t even make sense for the poll to be night action during the night it’s being voted on.

Suppose Tony is blocked during the night. The poll was up before the block was submitted.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:34 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:04 pm Hypothetically, what do we do if everyone votes Hyena and the kill goes through anyway?

Kill Nanook, wasn’t this the plan all along?

Yes and no.

If the kill goes though, it means the wolf was unblockable and nobody is confirmed by the Hyena lynch.

If the poll goes through, we still don’t 100% know your poll isn’t a day action.

Let’s talk about these things now, not later.

I’m probably voting Nanook tomorrow regardless.

Or if the kill doesn’t go through but there’s a night poll?

Hypothetically, what do we do if everyone votes Hyena and the kill goes through anyway?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 3:48 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 11:01 pm Lol Tony still not voting Hyena.

He played a really good game.

I’m voting for hyena and I was at whenever this was

I thought you weren’t but maybe I misread Hyena’s vote on you.

Lol Tony still not voting Hyena.

He played a really good game.

I mean, if everyone is voting Hyena, DDL should target nobody because there won’t be a kill anyway and that leaves his options open? Doesn’t really matter, though.

Lol in case you didn’t believe DDL, there you go.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:36 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 12:29 pm Before night comes -- which is a while -- I want full claims from Nanook and DDL.

You'll have to wait.

What’s the downside? Mafia gets blocked tonight when we all vote Hyena. Tomorrow is lylo.

Might as well get it in the open now and give us an extra day to digest if there are problems.

Same [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention]

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:39 pm Policy lynch Jack or Tony if they are not on Hyena when the day ends.

I don’t policy lynch at lylo but if Tony isn’t voting Hyena at eod, it’ll be a bad look.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 12:31 pm now if I try to avoid a hyena Lynch everyone's going to assume it's because I'm scum

Lol I feel the same but I’m also confident enough it’s Nanook that this is fine.

Is there anything at all that points to DDL as the wolf besides him and me being alive?

It feels wrong to [VOTE: Hyena] aubergine since I townread him pretty strongly but I just need to tell myself this is the way because it tells others what I already know, that Tony and I are town and the last wolf has to be Nanook.

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 10:28 am Okay guys, there would be no night poll if Tony votes for me and is scum. Awesome. <3

I misread this.

You're saying we can safely lynch you and confirm Tony and me.

At that point [mention]Dragon D. Luffy[/mention] you'd absolutely vote Nanook in F4 after Tony and I prove we aren't blocked, right?

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 10:28 am Okay guys, there would be no night poll if Tony votes for me and is scum. Awesome. <3

So the question is just if people suspect me and you enough to go Hyena (confirming Jack) -> Nanook or to go Nanook -> ???

I think it's just Nanook and I already know I'm town so I don't really care as long as Nanook is locked into one of those lynches.

If we're gonna go Hyena -> no nk -> DDL and Nanook vote Tony and Jack and Tony vote Nanook, I'd just as soon lynch Nanook now. I feel like your play has been townie today and I'm less worried about you being scum than I was at start of day.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 10:22 am Jack, I need serious reasons why it’s not DDL.

1) DDL went after Radishes early D1 with fair points that showed MR as bad and LC as good. He didn't turn away from this lynch. This is good in a vacuum but extra good considering if DDL was a wolf, his other partner would have been absent and the wolf tendency would be to just try to survive D1 until they had a full team.
2) DDL placed a vote on you D3 and then showed up at the last second to switch to MP when it would have been really easy to just remain gone.
3) DDL doesn't shoot Speed and Wilgy. It's just not his style. Also, I'd very likely be dead by this point. Last time he was scum and I was town, I tried to nightkill him. Time before that, I lynched him D1.
4) Unlike the game I tried to NK him and where I lynched him D1, I haven't had a single ping from DDL all game. Nothing he has said has set off my radar. I've detected no scum agenda at all. No opportunism. No buddying. Even his pushes on townies have mirrored my own thoughts completely.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 10:13 am I'd vote Tony over Nanoon tbh.

That's a problem.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 10:05 am If we all vote for Hyena we stop a scum kill, and potentially confirm Jack and Tony.

If Jack and Tony's gimmicks both work, then tomorrow I just gotta vote nanook and hope you guys trust me more than you trust him (sounds easy enough).

If either Jack or Tony fail to confirm themselves we lynch them and win.

The only problem is the possibility of Tony not getting roleblocked because he sent them in the day instead of night. I don't know if we can actually confirm how that works.

Basically, yeah.

I think Tony is town anyway so as long as you’ll vote Nanook over Tony in F4 (cause lynching Hyena means F4 instead of F3), it’s fine.

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 9:58 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 01, 2020 1:15 am If nanook and hyena are both town then going nanook -> hyena loses the game

If we're both town, wouldn't going hyena -> nanook lose us the game, too? :P

Gottem.