The Syndicate

Howdy [mention]Texas Cloverleaf[/mention]

Hi [mention]112[/mention]!

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:05 am to not multitabling over my playing possibilities i have to wait at least 2 weeks and after this i will gladly play.
Thanks Sloonei ^^

Hi [mention]Michelle[/mention]!

I’ve already said this to Juliets but Logic’s a real class act and great player who would fit in super well around here.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:03 am
WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:53 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:30 pm
WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:16 pm Hello, just joined up!
Long time no see.
Funny meeting you here.

We’re currently playing a game together on MU.

WaywardSon wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:16 pm Hello, just joined up!

Long time no see.

K-Ness is known for having a mafia game that took three years to finish.

Hey GFish.

What's your perfect Sunday

mongrel?

Apparently an admin needs to unban and the mods are a bit more active/chummy with the mafia board than the admins. Should get fixed in the next day or two.

You're no longer super banned. You're just on double secret probation.

MovingPictures07 wrote:
Sloonei wrote:I'm getting in the Christmas spirit with the HeroClickers.

I'm still awaiting activation, but whenever I get activated I'm totally signing up.

That message is kinda misleading. They really should change it.

The steps are
1) Register
2) Post something without a link to the new player forum
3) Get autoconfirmed/banned

Okay. You've been moderator unbanned but Quebbster (mod) wasn't sure it went though and might need admin approval.

I can click on your profile now without the site erroring out so...you're probably no longer banned.

Haha. Probably happened if you linked to the Syndicate in your first post. Sent a message to a mod to unban you.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Sounds like you'll fit in real well around here then.

That's my hope.

Went ahead and signed up for a game.

There is a Christmas game open on the realms that could use some more players if anyone wants to try something different and try to siphon off a couple more players for the Syndicate.

http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/showthread.php?t=569190

Long Con wrote:
HCRealms also rarely has vanilla roles but our roles are generally not revealed at all except in name only through nightkills/lynches and then in full at the end of the game. Having setup knowledge is usually reserved for specific mafia variants like Texas Justice or One Night Ultimate Mafia. Should be interesting trying out a home brew game with an open setup.

Infodumping is one of the main things I dislike about that community and there has been heavy resistance to restricting roleclaims. The plethora of powers has lead to an attitude of "waiting for info" or "pressure votes" that get removed when someone name claims. I'm okay with a couple townies being able to self confirm with name claims but I've also played games where the theme and player count were so restrictive that there was no room at all for false claims and any townie could self confirm. That's not much of a game, IMO, and it's frustrating that some players have no idea what to do without roleclaiming or a cop to follow.
It has been a very long and difficult battle around here, trying to balance "no infodumping" with "game censorship". Too many times, I have seen a role-checker type of role who KNOWS someone is Mafia, and they get too frustrated trying to get that player lynched... so they drop a post that says something like "I'm 100% sure that this person is bad" in one way or another. Once something like that is out, it never goes away, and everyone else can easily put the pieces together that it was said by a role-checker... and then the game is tainted by infodumping, and the role-checker never really even meant to do it.

You just gotta make a case. If you KNOW someone is bad, then cobble together any convincing-sounding thing you can to sawy hearts and minds - I think that those players who "have no idea what to do without roleclaiming" just need to play harder, do more research, and be more creative. Which is why I support the "no infodumping" side of things.

And it is very much a "spirit of the law" thing, rather than the "letter of the law", which is why some players still go to far and accidentally infodump. To me, a game should be played within the desired parameters that a Host wishes, and it's not good sportsmanship to try and find a loophole in any rules or roles that the Host didn't intend. But I'm rambling now. It's cool to see that you seem to be someone that will enjoy The Syndicate, Jack.

Oh, but I love game mechanics discussions.

The realms usually allows info sharing like "I copped LC as mafia" but tempers it with fairly common misdirection powers, millers (townies copping as scum), cloaks (scum copping as town) and the occasional naive/paranoid/reverse/random cop that's info can't be trusted anyway. Plus there's nothing in the OP saying there is a cop at all or that character X is the cop so if character X is dead, the guy claiming cop could be lying and then use all of the above as an excuse when the accused flips town. And then there is always the possibility of a scum info gatherer trying to string up an opposing scummer to look good.

We've hit the somewhat paradoxical point where an info gathering role is required to get much of anything done but "I copped JoH as mafia" only leads to my death like 50-75% of the time.

Heh. The vague awareness of Mafiascum as the only other online mafia site and that it is an unpleasant place to play mirrors our awareness exactly pre tournament.

HCRealms also rarely has vanilla roles but our roles are generally not revealed at all except in name only through nightkills/lynches and then in full at the end of the game. Having setup knowledge is usually reserved for specific mafia variants like Texas Justice or One Night Ultimate Mafia. Should be interesting trying out a home brew game with an open setup.

Infodumping is one of the main things I dislike about that community and there has been heavy resistance to restricting roleclaims. The plethora of powers has lead to an attitude of "waiting for info" or "pressure votes" that get removed when someone name claims. I'm okay with a couple townies being able to self confirm with name claims but I've also played games where the theme and player count were so restrictive that there was no room at all for false claims and any townie could self confirm. That's not much of a game, IMO, and it's frustrating that some players have no idea what to do without roleclaiming or a cop to follow.

MovingPictures07 wrote:You said you played in the mafia championship with Sloonei; what community are you from?

I've played on HCRealms.com for about ten years, now. It's not entirely dead but the player base and participation rate have shrunk.

There was a time when a new mod could run a game with an obscure theme and get 35 sign ups. Now, I see experienced mods struggle to fill 14 player games and even games with only 7 players end up with 1 or 2 only posting once or twice.

Some of my favorite games were the massive off the wall games we used to play. Like a guy ran a Crisis on Infinite Earths mafia (any comic book fans in the house?) where some 40ish players were divided across 5 game threads, one for each Earth. You could only use abilities on people at your Earth and if less than 3 players were on a given Earth, the thread was closed and those players were instantly killed and their character names hidden. The big scum boss got more powerful as these threads were destroyed.

Anyway, you just can't do that kind of thing on HCRealms anymore. I look at the Flash and BSG games and it reminded me of our old epic games I enjoyed so much.

I noticed a couple things that look different from what I'm used to. Some games don't let you change your vote? Is roleclaiming usually not allowed? You vote on the thread and in polls? Dead players can chat on thread to a degree?

juliets wrote:
Jackofhearts2005 wrote:'Lo, ladies and gents.

Sloonei recommended this site to me after he kicked my tail in the big inter-website mafia tournament thingie.

Currently reading through last year's Flash mafia and Battlestar Galactica mafia. Liking what I'm seeing so far.
Any friend of Sloonei is a friend of mine! Welcome to the site. What does your name mean (I'm particularly interested in the 2005 part since that looks like a year maybe?)?

2005 is my high school graduation class. A decade ago, I fancied myself as a great Hearts player but thought King of Hearts sounded arrogant and pointed to romance instead of cards. So...Jack of hearts instead.

Haven't played in years but it's been my go to screenname for pretty much anything game related for so long, I wouldn't know what else to call myself.

'Lo, ladies and gents.

Sloonei recommended this site to me after he kicked my tail in the big inter-website mafia tournament thingie.

Currently reading through last year's Flash mafia and Battlestar Galactica mafia. Liking what I'm seeing so far.

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