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Huh. Didn't realize I was in the lead. Thanks.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:18 pm Oh phew only one person lynched and he wasn't civ. About the best result I could have asked for, unless speed was bad but I think the post implies otherwide though I'm not really sure? Anyway he was saved somehow. (Btw everyone, remember that speed was in the lead because of the penalty vote, the tie was just between DF and me for second place and I was the lucky winner.)
Speed my scum reads depend on whether I think you are civ. Like I'd say you, Kyle, and maybe even sig otherwise, but they are civ if you are. I guess my alternates could be... hmm... Nova, Ambray, and uuuhhhhh gosh idk maybe rabbit but those all feel like extremely vague reads
Also, you clearly don't understand me.S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:59 am It is my understanding that you are a pretty competitive guy. People like that tend to try harder to live as a civ than as a baddie becasue it tanks your cred in further games if you make heartfelt pleas as a baddie. I know this from experience, having tanked my own cred in this fashion more than once.
That was 2 scumreads. Not what I asked for. Maybe nutella has better.S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:59 amPutting cards on the table; as of right now think Marmot was bad, and I think you are Kyle are his teammates. I had a bad feel about you, but when Kyle came in all willing to do anything to save you including a very strong willingness to fry civvies who have been playing hard and contributing, it meant one of two things to me, and i don't believe the civ explanation at all. Had Kyle stayed out of it, it is likely I would have moved my vote after Nutella did. As for who is Glory, that is hard to say, a smart indy/sk plays it like a civ. Several people could be that role. So I only have two baddie reads, becasue I think there are two baddies and an SK left.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:15 am I am fixing that post.
@S~V~S, @nutella , who are your top 3 scumreads? This is important.
And before anyone makes any inferences, I have no info, I do not have an info role. Info cannot be trusted in this game in any case with Caleb being able to screw with info results on any given night. With Faraday gone, they are slightly more reliable, but in any case, I have no info.
And re your reputation, you misunderstand me. It is my understanding that you are a pretty competitive guy. People like that tend to try harder to live as a civ than as a baddie becasue it tanks your cred in further games if you make heartfelt pleas as a baddie. I know this from experience, having tanked my own cred in this fashion more than once.
I am pretty much going to stay out of here until it is day again. If you are civ, I wish luck to you in the night.
Generally, people's expectations come from my scum games. Other than this one, name a game I have played town in recently. Name one.S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:54 am He is implying that Chuck is a specific role. For ... reasons, I don't buy it. Chuck threw in the towel which from what people think of him is not what I would expect. He was being opportunistic, again not what I would expect. But Kyle sowed enough doubt that I am a paranoid mess.
That is not what I'm claiming.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:38 pmYeah if this is what he's claiming he's full of shitLoRab wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:35 pmI don't think that I believe that you're Willow, which is the only role that would make sense.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:09 pm I'm done. I don't have time to defend against arguments that don't exist, and I apparently can't start up discussion toward lynching someone else without getting suspected.
I recognize Nutella came in and gave some reasons that I'm supposedly bad. The tone of the argument she gave has me waffling on my read of her, even if her arguments are full of it. I regret nothing that I have done in this game.
That's my meta. I never get suspected early in the game when I'm scum. Why? Because I know what I'm doing when scum. This is going to keep my meta rock solid, looks like.
SVS has left me no avenue for escape. There is probably scum on my train.
Good luck with the nightkills, because the only thing you're going to get with your lynches at this rate is shot in the foot, over and over again.
I leave with one concession, toward @nutella and @S~V~S. If you somehow back off and let me live this one night, I can townfirm myself to you without claiming.
Strong Townreads: Sig, Kylemii
Light townreads: Macdougall, Lorab, lapluie
Can't exactly hurt my situation, now can it? It's true, and you'll find out either at my flip or by tomorrowMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:11 pmHmmm smells like a scummy gambit.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:09 pm I'm done. I don't have time to defend against arguments that don't exist, and I apparently can't start up discussion toward lynching someone else without getting suspected.
I recognize Nutella came in and gave some reasons that I'm supposedly bad. The tone of the argument she gave has me waffling on my read of her, even if her arguments are full of it. I regret nothing that I have done in this game.
That's my meta. I never get suspected early in the game when I'm scum. Why? Because I know what I'm doing when scum. This is going to keep my meta rock solid, looks like.
SVS has left me no avenue for escape. There is probably scum on my train.
Good luck with the nightkills, because the only thing you're going to get with your lynches at this rate is shot in the foot, over and over again.
I leave with one concession, toward @nutella and @S~V~S. If you somehow back off and let me live this one night, I can townfirm myself to you without claiming.
Strong Townreads: Sig, Kylemii
Light townreads: Macdougall, Lorab, lapluie
It is bleeding over pretty badMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:26 pm I have an overwhelming desire to vote for speedchuck but I think it's because of Mortal Kombat
Let me rephrase it into what I thought I saw:nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:36 pmBold assertion. Why?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:32 pmnutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:27 pm Putting my vote on speed for now. I could be reading him wrong since he tends to have a similar style regardless of alignment, but my thinking is that if he's bad he's a pretty scary one to have around late in the game so I'd rather not take that chance if I have any reason to suspect him.
This is the worst vote post I have ever seen in my life.
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:27 pm Putting my vote on speed for now. I could be reading him wrong since he tends to have a similar style regardless of alignment, but my thinking is that if he's bad he's a pretty scary one to have around late in the game so I'd rather not take that chance if I have any reason to suspect him.
A. No, I didn't. It is, quite frankly, aggravating that your biggest line of suspicion toward me is something that never happened. it is doubly frustrating that everyone is buying it. It is triply frustrating that Lapluie is actually doing the thing, and you're so deep in the tunnel that you'll stick with me.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:23 pmNo you actually did, I could see you gearing up for it.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:19 pmI've been playing surreal mafia all day. Anything with my interaction is going to feel off right now.
Scum players want to avoid suspicion, and are careful about it. Lapluie, on the other hand, sees you suspecting me for pushing the loop voters (which I never did) and then immediately goes and blatantly pushes the loop voters.
She like honey badger. She don't care.
And how do you know Wilgy would have been a mislynch?
I've been playing surreal mafia all day. Anything with my interaction is going to feel off right now.
You are both unafraid of SVS when hunting and were willing to clear Wilgy based on his past meta, rather than helping to mislynch him on an easy day.lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:10 pmHow did you establish this trust?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:01 pm I trust Lapluie. Sort of. I don't think she's vamp or Glory.
Lap, what's up? Gimme 3 suspects.
Clearly not. I saw that loop died, and that's about it. I have not made any posts that cast suspicion on the loop voters. Yes, including the one above. That was just a question.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:59 pmspeedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:55 pm
Show me. Show me where I blamed those people, or mentioned them by name.
I haven't looked at the poll results. I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IS WAS THAT LYNCHED... uh... (checks linki) LOOP!You seemed to know yesterday^^speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:01 am My game is over and MK is close to over, so I'll be able to keep up now.
Should have just voted randomly yeesh.
Can someone TLDR me why Loop was lynched?
Show me. Show me where I blamed those people, or mentioned them by name.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:50 pmI kind of think it is exactly what you did.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:43 pmThis is not something that I did, and you should know that.
I'm provocative!
Mechanics speculation.juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 4:05 pmWhat is "mechspec"? Also, prodding is my style. I ask questions to assimilate information or to poke into places I might want to go.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:51 pmI was ISOing players and she was the first high poster who I did not get a single town ping from. Her posts are mostly mechspec and prodding toward others.LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:41 pmWhy Juliets?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:02 pm I'm placing a vote on Juliets until I have a reason not to.
I don't recall Juliets's meta, so this may be normal for her. Nevertheless, the vote is on the board, and I want to see what she does about it. Clock is ticking.
That I certainly am.
This is not something that I did, and you should know that.
Pretty much anyone, except for Sig and Lorab. But it looks like I've hit a landmine, so I'm leaving my vote for now. Keep the protests coming!
I was ISOing players and she was the first high poster who I did not get a single town ping from. Her posts are mostly mechspec and prodding toward others.LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:41 pmWhy Juliets?speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:02 pm I'm placing a vote on Juliets until I have a reason not to.
Oh. See, I didn't know that they were baddies on the show.LoRab wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:06 pmYou and i clearly have different viewpoints on neutral roles. Although, really, imho, it depends on who has the role and how they're going to play it. I don't remember Timmer in a neutral role off hand, so unclear.speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:33 amNot really.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:27 am Riley Finn - As part as the Initiative, he is looking to catch all Demons. He is looking for Adam in particular. Riley will choose a player each night, and when he finds a vampire or demon, they will be blocked. If Riley chooses Adam, Adam will be killed.
Wow good shot...
We don't need indys dead to win, right?
TBH these indy folk are like a second town factions, and it's weird. I'm more sad that Adam died, because that means he loses for no reason.
Such is life in a BR/LC game?
And my view of the neutrals in this game is colored by the fact that they are all baddie characters on the show, other than Spike who starts evil and becomes good.
Not really.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:27 am Riley Finn - As part as the Initiative, he is looking to catch all Demons. He is looking for Adam in particular. Riley will choose a player each night, and when he finds a vampire or demon, they will be blocked. If Riley chooses Adam, Adam will be killed.
Wow good shot...
I was busy yesterday. Church, running a game, DnD... etc. But when something feels out of place, I'm happy to call it out.S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:03 pm Plus, if I am going to be honest, it annoyed me a tad that someone who missed the vote is seeming to be trying to make a something out of a nothing. Totally no offense meant . Just being honest. And yeah, Momma Bear. We did not play much together; I am surprised you are aware of this aspect of my personality.
Not literally, no. Was this coincidental? Did you read Ambray's post before posting?
I think Long Con is smart enough not to give away role abilities through flavor text. Unless he wants to. And clearly, since he refused to answer your question, he doesn't want us to know.Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:36 pmThe story didn't make it sound like there was a tie. If i remember well, LC story posts usually mention this.
If there wasn't one, it could be because DrWilgy is Angelus and several of his votes got deflected.
Or because Darla is one of the Loop voters.
Or because Dawn Summers used a -1 or a +1
Or because of secrets.
Thoughts?
Nothing is wrong with people discussing how they would have voted... other than the fact that they know the result now, so anything they say is going to be skewed toward protecting their image. But aside from that...S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:31 pmWhat's wrong with people who voted discussing how they would have voted after a mislynch? It would be suspicious had they said they would NOT have voted for him. Like I said, had he not been lynched yesterday, I likely would have voted for Loop tomorrow if he kept up the same behavior.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:12 pmMethinks thou doth protest/mindmeld too much.
No, seriously, are you answering a question here? Because I don't see it being asked, and these posts sound more like excuses and justifications than observations or reads.
Methinks thou doth protest/mindmeld too much.
I think it was a reference. A half-joke, since someone said the exact same thing in that game. But IDK if he was even in that game, sonutella wrote: ↑Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:56 pm I think he may have carried over the idea of locations from the Mortal Kombat game, but that was just one poll and the number of votes each location got determined the order in which the locations were visited. Which is not quite the same idea he was implying. So... idk.
He can't say.rabbit8 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:16 pmYou Spike?sig wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:42 pmLorab gets some early civ points for this post.LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:01 am Looking at the poll (thanks google):
Full Metal Jacket, Xander references the movie (Life taker, heartbreaker) when greeting Riley when he returns to Sunnydale. Also, a Vampire says to Spike who is attacking him, "What's your malfuncion, man" which is also a reference.
House of Wax: Plotline of the original could connect to various buffy story lines, but can't find anything in particular that stands out. And none of it looks remotely good.
New Jack City: There's a "I never liked you anyway" connection, but that's a pretty common line, I think. Spike says it to Buffy.
Wayne's World: Both have a "Noah's Arcade"--it's where the Trio brings a kidnapped Willow and Buffy confronts them. Also, Wayne's World ends with a whole Scooby Doo thing, and the Scooby Gang is, well, the Scooby Gang.
That was not so helpful. Although almost fun. I'm sure I'm missing obvious things. Or, Rock Con are just messing with us with random movie titles. I feel like I'm missing references, though.
linkitis:
kyle: You don't have to watch it all at on
LA: Google coupled with a buffy knowledge. But yes, mostly google.
What does everyone think about the Independents? I'd say Glory is a top priority to kill for all players, followed by the mafia, and maybe Spike. I do think its possible Spike has the type of role where he can also become a civ, it could be something along the lines of he searches for Buffy every night and if he finds her they get BTSC and he becomes a civ, which would be nice. However, we've got no way of knowing if that's the case so I think it would be safer to lynch him.
Thoughts?
nnnnnolapluie wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:22 amYou ever watched the vampire diaries?speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:20 am I have never seen an episode of this show.
I know what FMJ is so I'm voting that.