The Syndicate

The game is at stake. If anyone wants to vote for me, please make a case of my compatibility or inherent scumminess first. I dont buy 'POE' when Juliets (and maybe tranq) are the only ones clear of being scum.

This is not a day to play all hedgey. Place your cards on the table and, if 3p sides with town (which if they killed sloon then they did), we have clear numerical advantage.

I mean if we agree he's 3p, I dont want to lynch 3p today, but I'm not seeing a consensus that makes sense.

I get that Tranq is hinting to have killed sloonei but

Wouldn't that be 3p? But you, Juliets, said he was hinting at being town, and even tranq shut that down.

I'm not stupid, but you guys are contradicting each other and making me out to be the obtuse one.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:09 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:21 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:16 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:14 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:12 pm You guys are scumreading me without any reason and POE townreading everyone without reason (except for Juliets, I got that one) and it's going to lose town the game.

At least, lose the game for me, Juliets and whoever the one other townsperson is.

I’m willing to accept Tranq and Epi. That was Jay’s guess as well.

Actually his guess was Tranq and Tony but that’s wrong so we’ll go with second option

I thought you and Juliets had cleared tranq not an hour ago.

Jules did for reasons I think completely other than why I did.

And you're considering going back on that?

And why did she?

I'm getting very little out of this. And there are no civ roles left worth protecting, which was her reason for not theorizing more.

I find it hard to believe that I can figure this out but you can't. Have you been reading all of the posts or does your schedule have you too tied up to be able to do that?

This is patronizing, and nobody else has gotten it either. I have read all the posts today, at least, and Tranq is my number one suspect.

I'm flailing because nobody will answer my questions. Because nobody will engage me on them. Because people are suspecting me for reasons that do not exist. And because I want to avoid being the game-losing mislynch at all costs.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:17 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:16 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:14 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:12 pm You guys are scumreading me without any reason and POE townreading everyone without reason (except for Juliets, I got that one) and it's going to lose town the game.

At least, lose the game for me, Juliets and whoever the one other townsperson is.

I’m willing to accept Tranq and Epi. That was Jay’s guess as well.

Actually his guess was Tranq and Tony but that’s wrong so we’ll go with second option

I thought you and Juliets had cleared tranq not an hour ago.

Jules did for reasons I think completely other than why I did.

And you're considering going back on that?

And why did she?

I'm getting very little out of this. And there are no civ roles left worth protecting, which was her reason for not theorizing more.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:14 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:12 pm You guys are scumreading me without any reason and POE townreading everyone without reason (except for Juliets, I got that one) and it's going to lose town the game.

At least, lose the game for me, Juliets and whoever the one other townsperson is.

I’m willing to accept Tranq and Epi. That was Jay’s guess as well.

Actually his guess was Tranq and Tony but that’s wrong so we’ll go with second option

I thought you and Juliets had cleared tranq not an hour ago.

You guys are scumreading me without any reason and POE townreading everyone without reason (except for Juliets, I got that one) and it's going to lose town the game.

At least, lose the game for me, Juliets and whoever the one other townsperson is.

I feel like I can't even engage with the thread right now.

My questions are met with 'Tranq is town because reasons' even though there's no town role or item set that clears him from what he's said and when I ask why people townread Tony I get nothing from anyone.

I'll answer your questions later Tranq. I'll be giving everyone a read before the end of this phase.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:50 pm tedxtr.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:25 am
Juliets: Jules is a civ, fight me if you don't agree.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:50 pm Alright Jules back it up a bit

What do you mean by this Tony?

And also why are we giving SVS this much credit? She doesn't have an inforole or anything?

What the heck is a GOAT kill anyway? Greatest Of All Time?

Possible remaining roles: (for myself)

Civilians

The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are. If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.

Vanilla role - You are vanilla until a player tries to use an ability on you. The ability will appear to be blocked, and you will absorb it for a single use. If multiple abilities are used on you during a night, you will absorb the last one used, and the rest will affect you normally.

King Dedede - If the final vote tally is tied when the Day phase ends, you will decide which player, within the tie, is lynched.

Bill Rawls - Each night, you will give a Civ role an order on how to use their power. If they comply, you will know the result, if any.


The Master's Team

Bari Artzain - You appear town to alignment checks. *secrets*

Serena van der Woodsen - Each night, you will give a Civ role an order on how to use their power. If they comply, you can control their power the following night.


Independent

Akechi - Each night, you can appear as the role of your choice to information roles. *secrets*

I'm assuming it's role related and thus I'm not getting it at all.

I'll try to figure it out.

What?

At this point in the game, it doesn't matter who gets nightkilled. It matters that we narrow down who scum is.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:19 pm There is something else you are missing about Tranq but I don't want to make him a NK target.

Would you rather him be a lynch target?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:15 pm Tranq, if I recall, spent a large portion of the midgame with a laser like focus on Sloonei. No one really picked up the case, but that’s either strong teammate protection or Tranq isn’t scum

I went back and looked.

Heck no.

Tranq placed Sloonei consistently 3rd in his top scumreads and associated Jay with him later. Textbook distancing and soft-scumreading. No reasons ever given, really. No.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:15 pm Tranq, if I recall, spent a large portion of the midgame with a laser like focus on Sloonei. No one really picked up the case, but that’s either strong teammate protection or Tranq isn’t scum

I'll look. He only has 40-some posts, shouldn't be hard to find.

It'd be surprising for Jay to have missed that in his analysis.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:14 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:07 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:03 pm Wagonomics suggests speed and Juliets from the obvious side, though I assume someone on the team was voting for Mac

Yeah I'm tinfoiling on Juliets but man the distancing between her and SLoonei looked legit

Yeah, it wasn't distancing. He seemed off to me early in the game.

I know. My head agrees, but my heart doubts.

Or the other way around.

In any case I won't be voting you today.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:07 pm speed, on Day 7 you said this:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:33 pm I'm a definite on Jay and Ted. Sloonei I'm historically bad at reading, but haven't seen something in memory that keeps him out of the bottom.

And now this:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:59 am I somewhat scumread Ted, but can't deny that he's got a few compatibility issues with mafia.

What changed from "im a definate on Ted" to "i somewhat scumread Ted" ?

Jay's analysis. He doesn't look as compatible as he could.

I scumread him in a vacuum, but he's not as compatible with Masters as a couple others. More likely a 3P candidate? Possibly.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:03 pm Wagonomics suggests speed and Juliets from the obvious side, though I assume someone on the team was voting for Mac

Yeah I'm tinfoiling on Juliets but man the distancing between her and SLoonei looked legit

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:00 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:01 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:56 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:47 pm This is only even a contest because Jay has teammates.

If GMan has teammates, they’re bussing. Yet there are five votes for town Jay?

No way that’s happening. Just look at the vote count and tell me Jay can even be town here.

All it takes is one or two vocal civilians promoting a case and the wolves can start circling.

Who are the wolves on Jay’s wagon?

From most to least suspicious:
Speedchuck
Epi
Tranq
Tony
You

JJJ has to have brought this post up. Not sure how to read it.

Tranq is conveniently right in the middle.

Tranq is mafia. I'm not sure who with. JJJ suggested Tony, but most everyone townreads Tony and nobody ever explained why to me.

I somewhat scumread Ted, but can't deny that he's got a few compatibility issues with mafia.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:53 am speedchuck, my reason for suspecting you is the same as Tranq - POE. I'll also look at Jay's last posts but the ones Tranq pointed out are not in your favor.

I've explained all of these. POE is a crappy reason unless you have a solid reason to townread Tranq. The way you and Tranq immediately flipped over on me after the nightkill is hella concerning.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:01 am @speedchuck The main thing i have on you (and tedxtr) is that i think everyone else is civ. There's not much you can do about that.
Earlier in the game i had you down as not-Master based on your Mac vote. But as Epignosis pointed out, you only changed your vote to Mac because Nanook casually asked you to. That vote is not enough to clear you as a suspect.

Who do you think the 2 remaining mafia are? Please name them.

That's ridiculous. The idea that I ONLY switched to Mac because someone asked is bullcrap. You can see in those posts that I suspected Mac before that vote, or I wouldn't have said 'I will switch to Mac' before I was asked.

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:50 am

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:59 am If you'd like to parse Jay's analysis (his only chance of surviving was to get us to lynch the enemy team instead of him, so there may be some reliable info in there) then it might be helpful.

Ok:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:22 am speedchuck on Sloonei

Spoiler: show

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:49 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:55 pm @speedchuck do you have any developed thoughts on jack and/or nutella? What about anyone else in the game?

I think the Jack/Nutella thing was interesting, primarily because of reactions to it. Tedxtr's reaction was notable, like he was incredibly pro-nutella and focused on nutella. Dunno if that's changed.

@tedxtr do you know nutella prior to this?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:42 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:38 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:37 pm Having read over the last two pages, Dys and Dom are my top townreads. Their votes are on people I would like to see lynched.

I got twenty minutes. Lets go.

Expand on this, mr chuck

I got weird vibes from Ted D1, and then he appeared reluctant to address Dizzy's 'scumslip' on him. It wasn't the slip itself that bothered me, but his forced nonchalance about it? Something like that. Lol at her flipping votes, though.

The Mac read is nothing special. I agree with what Jay said about his Dom post, and a few other sentiments expressed in the past two pages.

Dizzy and Dom both seemed like fairly stable, level heads in the thread D1. I like town dizzy and town dom.

Bonus: I don't care to lynch G-man.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:23 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:11 pm Ted, Jack, and Colin are the names to look into if we’re right about sig. Dom is a fringe candidate too, and I saw someone float Tranq as well. I have no reason to object to that.

This for if Sig is scum?

Yes

What happened to mac

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:25 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:25 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:20 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:19 pm

What?

we were looking for people to join the sig wagon for mechanical reasons.

I'm pressed for time. I'd like more than 'mechanical reasons' as an explanation.

but [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

If sig is mafia he has a 50% chance of starting the day with -2 votes on him. If we are inclined to lynch him and neutralize his team today, it is ideal to give him a comfortable lead in the poll.

Ah, better to gank the -2 vote thing earlier than later. Yes. I'll stick with that then.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:26 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:25 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:23 pm

Yes

What happened to mac

That’s what I’m wondering

These are the candidates to be the last remaining member of the sig/sabie/radishes team. Mac is not on that team.

Lol it's like the inverse of that Mac/Dom misunderstanding from a day ago

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:09 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:07 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:01 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:58 pm

This is actually a terrible look for Speed.

I'm not concerned about that. I've kept up with the game enough to think Mac was going to flip Anti-Monitor. I was surprised to see Saitama.

Saitama is exactly the role sig said he thought Mac was though back on d2 and the one that makes sense with all the theories. But ok.

Yea it reeks for speed honestly. I've been going after this and specifically this role forever.

And you expect me to have read any of those posts... why?

I skimmed Dizzy's post, then voted. After the lynch, I saw Sloonei and Juliets having a conversation like this:

"Sloonei is still a prime suspect."
"I don't get it, why?"

And I'm like WTF did something not go as planned? Mac seems to have flipped scum. What's going on?

So I asked.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:16 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:12 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:57 pm I’ve argued against town reads on myself as town before.

Why though.

Sometimes because I don’t want things about me to be misconstrued, other times because I want to get a better read on the person reading me.

omigawd nuance.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME It looks like you need to show me where you talked about the reasons to townread you.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:18 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 12:13 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:59 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.

Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.

Is it two of the T's? Which ones?

As for the wagons themselves... I'm okay with lynching Jay, but not lynching sig seems really weird.

Tranq and TH.

Can you give us a rainbow or proposed players for each team? I’m picking up your opinions on specific issues but not where you’re at overall.

speedchuck

Dom
Jackofhearts2005
G-Man
Epignosis
juliets

Dragomir
ColinIsCool
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime
Tranq

Michelle

Turnip Head
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr

sig

Something like that. It's difficult, since there are two teams, and there are multiple players in there I don't recall reading any posts from. Lots of players in this game. Proposed players for each team would be harder still.
I think my individual takes are probably more useful.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:33 pm Need five town other than me out of the following.

speedchuck

Jackofhearts2005
juliets
Epignosis

TonyStarkPrime
Tranq

Michelle
G-Man

Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr

I have negative reads on Michelle that have been assuaged by the meta of not having played her before. I had a positive light of G-man because we were suspected for generally the same reasons early-game, but it doesn't feel concrete now.
I don't recall reading anything from the T's. Maybe because I payed most attention to this game around the time of the split, and regarding feelings during the split.

I'm a definite on Jay and Ted. Sloonei I'm historically bad at reading, but haven't seen something in memory that keeps him out of the bottom.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:28 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:26 pm I mean, if it's Jay, Sloonei, GMan, I don't see the problem.

Aye, but I think Jay should be lynched first.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:28 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:04 pm G-Man's final Day 2 vote was for Sloonei, not Mac.

Oh. What.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:05 pm What’s the best reason we have to town read speedchuck?

Townreading me wins you the game if you're town. Good reason right there.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:10 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:10 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:02 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:01 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:59 pm

On Day 2 I trusted Dyslexicon and sheeped that vote out of a lack of other reads.

There was no chance of me being lynched and two or three competing viable wagons at the time. Why was Sloonei the best vote?

On Day 2 I trusted Dyslexicon and sheeped that vote out of a lack of other reads.

Why vote at all?

what

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:56 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 6:55 pm Jay’s behavior today is also exactly what I’d expect from him as a civilian. He got some pressure on him and it flipped a switch. He started pressing everything and re-examining things. He lost his zen and reclaimed the crown of fuck mountain.

I don't know what thread you're reading.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:07 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:07 pm I juliets is mafia, on either team, she deserves to win.

Preach!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:21 pm Jay, Sloonei, and probably Ted are still mafia. My reads are the same. Screw this game. Screw the unwillingness of anyone on this stupid forum to lynch Jay when he's pumping out worthless content because 'other players are posting less'.

And screw self-voting as well.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:22 pm There was no case on G-man other than 'he's busy, he did a gimmick and later self-voted'

Meanwhile Jay's over here making love to his scum meta with Sloonei cheering him on.

There is one thing I don't like here. Toward the end when speedchuck was campaigning in his cranky way to destroy me, he always tacked Sloonei's name with me. Both of us were bad, but I had to die first. For reasons y'all will soon understand, that's a problem. The connection is meaningless, and it only serves to protect Sloonei in a roundabout way.

Generally I don't think it's speedchuck, but he should still answer to that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:29 am

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:27 am Jay, are you saying you think speedchuck knows who you are and that's why it's problematic that he thought you should go first?

It leaves the potential that speedchuck knows who Sloonei is, and that I am not on Sloonei's team. By gluing us together like that and insisting I die first, he protects Sloonei two-fold. Sloonei doesn't get lynched, and when I flip civilian it makes Sloonei look better too -- the connection is severed.

I agree with JJJ.

If you want to agree with JJJ, you probably should look at his readlist. And at the post you're quoting. He didn't think I was scum. You're cherry-picking.

The second post assumes that I think JJJ will flip civ, which I didn't.

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:10 am

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:03 am

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:50 am @Tranq do you have a leading candidate for a vote today or not ready to commit yet?

tedxtr or speedchuck. I'm ok with either one, really.

You?

I want to review Michelle's latest posts but I'm leaning towards the same two.

Really now. Please do tell more, both of you.

If you'd like to parse Jay's analysis (his only chance of surviving was to get us to lynch the enemy team instead of him, so there may be some reliable info in there) then it might be helpful.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:40 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:39 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:29 pm Tranq has 31 posts. That's impressive.

You mean that he's still alive with only 31 posts?

Yeah. Must be a real good 31 posts.

What is your opinion of them?

I have 31 posts worth of one.

Not much. I'll have one by EOD.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 10:29 pm Tranq has 31 posts. That's impressive.

You mean that he's still alive with only 31 posts?

Yeah. Must be a real good 31 posts.

(and I know I said Juliets was weirding me out earlier with calling Dizzy non-town but she has no motivation to be weird as scum right now)

Way I see it right now, all T's are bad/3P. I just need to pick a good one.

Yes, I'm willing to bank the game on Epi/Juliets being town.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:29 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:24 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 01, 2020 4:09 pm [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

I could be persuaded to vote Mac pretty easily.

Hey you should vote mac

wow okay that sounds good [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

speedchuck, what made you change your vote?

Nanook asked me to.

If anyone else had asked me to, I would have done the same thing. I suspected both at the time.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:16 pm Okay I can’t trust any of you potato heads but I’m pinning it as Jules Epi Me. If you are town and you are not in this group, please wave your hand wildly.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:12 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:11 pm Lying can be town

Yeah, but not this lie.

You're making me want to lynch you. Why would you be doing that?

Dizzy literally handed town two scumlynches.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:01 pm Though I was serious about the Dizzy part.

What did Dizzy do that wasn't civ??

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:40 pm I'm trying to start wrapping my head around this game again but it's hard.

I don't know what the deal is with Akechi in the poll - it's interesting to think about. I still think Dizzy has to be either Akechi or mistakenly shot by his own team. If he is civ and did what he did then I just don't understand this game of mafia anymore (that may be true anyway).

Which of you is bad? There are two (presumably) of you damnit! You've played great but now would be a good time to stop hiding in the name of spirit and cooperation since we're all in this pandemic together. I am not drunk (but Epi probably will be soon).

Well, I'll be around.

. . . what?

Poll is mod confirmation that Akechi is still alive.

(True/False)

I'm going to bed. Happy. :-bd

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:36 pm An old monk in Tibet jerks his head to the sky, a faint whimper echoing in his thoughts. The sun shines dimmer today.

I appreciate the dedication. I would have given up halfway through the day.

Neat. I'm happy.

I don't see much reason not to use JJJ's judgement when it comes to the Master's team. This'll be fun!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:23 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:21 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:11 pm All that said, Jay might have more time thanks to COVID. It's not like post count should just clear him. But hey, we have a few hours, if anyone wants to talk about Jay's supah-reliable post-count meta.

This is a champions game. If he were paired with Sloonei he could do it, if he were the AM then he’s basically been playing as town.

In fact, to the AM end, Jay was pretty quiet the first few days by his standards. It only picked up around day 5.

Fair point.

This is multiball, after all. Jay is allowed to hunt for real this game, so he doesn't have to fake content.

All that said, Jay might have more time thanks to COVID. It's not like post count should just clear him. But hey, we have a few hours, if anyone wants to talk about Jay's supah-reliable post-count meta.

Meanwhile Mountain Mafia has 170 posts in 11 days, or about 15 ppd. He did replace into that game, and died mid-game, and so there were mitigating circumstances, but...

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:06 pm 900 posts in about 25 days, or about what, 36 ppd?

Meanwhile Jay's last town game that I happened across, Dogs vs. Cats, had about 500 posts in 15 days.

That math checks the hell out. Dammmm.

900 posts in about 25 days, or about what, 36 ppd?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:40 pm I wish I was mafia. This would double my highest-ever post count as a bad guy.

This is a fair point and the one thing that has me hesitant in my read.

When I jumped into the ISO it was extensive. Maybe some of that town joy is there.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:27 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:01 pm

Spoiler: show

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:53 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:43 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:31 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:04 pm My opinion is that level one could not have been all civs.

Why not?

I guess if it was randed it could be but wouldn't the hosts have wanted there to be mafia on every level so there was balance? Do you think level one could have had all civs? Maybe I'm misunderstanding something about the way the levels worked.

If it was random or if the hosts decided, then sig's power is not necessarily a benefit to his team, as one or more of sig's teammates could have found themselves on that level and vulnerable to a lynch. The role is only beneficial to sig's team if sig got to choose who went where so that he could keep his team safe for one Day phase.

I definitely believe sig picked where he went and if I'm reading you right you think sig would have picked maybe level 2 for the AM. That makes sense. What about the Masters people though wouldn't they have been spread across levels unless the levels were randed for everyone but sig and the AM?

If I'm right and sig grouped everyone, the other team could be among any of the levels. It's a devious little role secret in that it has a potential secondary benefit for pushing (or allowing to stand) the fallacy that there "has to be" at least one bad guy per level.

for 5 y o ppl that means after he safely put the AM most probably in the midde level the rest of players are randomly distributed between levels?

I imagine he was mostly concerned with himself. I wouldn't make any other assumptions, not when the game rides on it.

I do see what you're saying on Juliets. If she's scum with Mac and Sloon after dancing those suspicions like that all game, she deserves a Socky.

Ed: or further forward