The Syndicate

Really good game BTW. I worried that it was unbalanced in the beginning, but seeing the end result, I honestly think it could have gone the other way. Shout out to the hosts. For a hodgepodge game, they did a lot of really cool flavor stuff and deep interaction.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:53 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:46 pm this whole game I was thinking 'i feel sorry for any townies who reincarnate as scum' because we were absolutely killing it in this game. Not sure if that was actually happening though.

It was not.

I included the rule because I was a little concerned that the two-life set-up favoured civilians quite heavily, and I wanted it to create doubt. In the end I don't think the setup was too badly favouring civilians, although people were better than I expected at assessing whether roles were better for town or mafia and correctly placing them as a result.

I deduced that traitors and recruits were unbalanced... like, day one? But they didn't bleeve me.

Yeah, I recently had Epi delete an entire scumchat to avoid revealing myself in a game he wasn't hosting.

Crap happens, especially when you're scum in like ten games at once.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:23 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:21 pm I was apparently the one taking myself off the poll all those days without knowing it. Sorry I accused you Quin.

How?

Some of my abilities self-targeted even though I chose other people. Because I had no partner to combine with.

Good game, everyone.

Thanks for reading me correctly early, Epi. I set myself up (by accident) as an easy target D1, and your assurance that I was town gave me some easy town reads.

I was apparently the one taking myself off the poll all those days without knowing it. Sorry I accused you Quin.

Great game to everyone. I was following along, and I wouldn't put myself in the top ten town players this game. I had an impact on the thread, but some of you were simply fantastic! Kudos.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:00 pm Holding an AMA for myself because I love attention. I’ll answer anything to the best of my ability, so shoot

Are you considering running another Survivor Mafia at some point?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:47 pm OH THANK YOU SCOTTY!!!

I have been keeping separate windows open to find host posts re lynches and night posts! This is awesome and I bow down to you

(This post is in Dead Red)

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:08 pm i probably will, for at least a month or something. I mean mafia's great but sometimes it's nice to just like... spend time on hobbies that don't involve sitting still and staring at my phone for sometimes hours at a time lol

THIS is your problem. If Mafia was a phone game to me, I'd play like 1 game a year. Desktop/laptop 4 lyfe.

actually come to think of it DH could be scum

i cant elaborate though because church

Bye.

And I thought my town game was pretty good this game.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:49 pm You're either scum or you played the scumiest town game of all time :P

1. This is an insult
2. My towngames are always scummier than my scumgames. I told you that in early game. Evidence: The 3 scumgames I've won this year alone.

Ah ken see tha future, ah ken

ganna blaw a lotta moinds, yes sah

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:37 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:34 pmBut A. it puts me on the evens,

plz explain how

SVS thinks that LC, with me as his teammate (on the evens), swapped my death alignment to town.
She thinks that a townie revealed me as town (even though I'm totes Even scum), because LC's role somehow affected that. (It can't)
She thinks Nutella had no role in this at all. LC + Townie is all that there was (legit impossible, even if someone was stepping up to bat to defend me)

All because she cannot reconcile my defense of LC after he slipped as coming from town.

She cannot accept that I'm Strex (good on her)
But she also cannot accept that I'm town (Blerp)

I will flip town. She will claim that was LC's work.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:35 pm I told you I was a messy bitch.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:32 pm [VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine Open and shut. Speed's bad.

Really dude. Really. After everything today. Really.

Nothing has changed.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:32 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 5:14 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:16 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:37 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:04 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:57 pm Aubergine *Speedchuck*
He will flip civ; he isn't
He is a baddie

How?

I explained this oh
oh, eighty five times or so
the eighty sixth time

Will be post haiku
It as to do with LCs role
and et cetera

Long Con's role doesn't cause someone's living role to appear in the thread with an affiliation in the middle of the phase. I raised this point before and you dismissed it as "semantics." For you to be correct, the hosts have to be lying about what Long Con's role actually says.

You have not read
anything I have said, have you.
OK, it's like this.

LC mad him look
Civ, SOMEONE ELSE, a civ role,
Revealed his "civ" role

NOT Nutella, a
*Second party* please don't make
me keep saying this

I don't really understand. You suspect speedchuck but you don't think Nutella used her role on him, but instead think that long con used his role to make speedchuck look like a civ and a separate unknown truthful revealer role also targeted speedchuck? is this by coincidence or by plan, and isn't this just like.... the same theory as the most common theory about Speedchuck except with a bunch of extra steps and unknowns thrown in to reach kind of the same conclusion?

But A. it puts me on the evens, and B. is contradicted by LC's role.

SVS is the only person who can defend me, understanding that it doesn't make sense for me to be Strexcorp.

Aaaaaannnddd she puts me on the Evil Evens.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:24 pm I'm just frustrated ala 1973 when we learned on Pikachu that nutella had this ability and they didn't lynch speed then and still may not today.

Nutella dies
D8 - Marmot
N8 - Sprityo (Evens)
LoRab Dies
MERGE
D9 - Wilgy

Nutella dies, and my fate is kicked in the nuts.

D8 happens. Not enough active people in cerberus to get me dead over Marmot (you should not be frustrated about the Marmot lynch)
D9 happens (speed is off the poll)
D10 happens (That's today)

There was no lynching me sooner, dude. I wasn't even on pikachu when nutella's ability was revealed.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:26 pm I would even fathom to say that those not voting for speed look more suspect even if speed is revealed as civ

Am I wrong in my fathoming?

Yes.

Knowing my own flip already, I'd say it depends on their reason for voting one way or another. It's not that simple.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:07 pm I have been trying to think of a mechanic that would reveal a civilian speedchuck as a civilian.

Let's begin with this:

If nutella used her ability and targeted a civilian, and that civilian was revealed as mafia, who among us would believe it? I would be far more willing to believe someone being revealed as a civilian than I would the hosts outing someone as mafia. It's clear to me that the optimal use of Evil Even resources would have been for nutella to frame a civilian on his second life, and then for Long Con to use his power to make sure the civilian was revealed to be bad upon lynch.

That bit of deviousness would never come to fruition, for obvious reasons, and good thing it didn't.

If a civilian caused a civilian speedchuck to be revealed, what would we expect to find?

<SNIP>

Outside of Quin, who cited due process, and maybe, if you squint a little bit, Boomslang, not one person truly went to bat for speedchuck. Not one.

In addition, one must ask, "Why would a civilian out a person who was unlikely to be lynched?" A shrewd use of the role, for a civilian, would be to target someone who could be lynched in order to prevent a poor lynch or confirm a good one.

The only remaining possibility I can think of is that speedchuck's role was revealed by some mechanic other than nutella's role, and that the person responsible for that mechanic had no say in targeting speedchuck or was even aware that he or she had targeted speedchuck. Even then, the person would have to have some knowledge that he could cause someone's role to appear in the thread, because if not, then what the hell does the role card look like? "If something happens, then something else will happen." Okay then.

I'm not seeing anything to suggest that refraining from lynching speedchuck would be a good idea.

*looks at drwilgy votes*

Speedchuck
Quin
sprityo
S~V~S
Epignosis
dharmahelper
Scotty

nijuukyugou
colonialbob - not even
Dom - not even
LoRab
Boomslang
Sloonei
Spacedaisy
insertnamehere
sig
Dragon D Luffy
Kylemii
DrWilgy

I don't think there were Strex on Pikachu v1. That alone is responsible for putting Dom and cbob as high as they are. I would have to be wrong there for them to be scum.
Maybe someone will actually engage that theory once I die.

Quin is townfirm.

Sprit is only scum if recruited IMO. Cecil and all. Plus I like his output.

SVS is just straight-up town in my eyes. She wouldn't be trying so hard to fit me in a scumspot as scum. She'd know better. I firmly believe that only town can be this misguided, as I was on the LC lynch.

Epi has done absolutely nothing to set off any alarms. I follow all of his thought processes, to the point where it looks like I'm buddying. I don't think he's been coasting, which is what I saw him do once as scum. I have no reason to read scum here.

DH - His opposition to the LC lynch looked good. Biased on my part, maybe. He hasn't been blending. He put in effort despite whatever weirdness his role represents. And he got nightkilled by Strex.

Scotty - Some people have voiced suspicion of Scotty. He's probably not Evens. They killed him, after all. I haven't seen any alarms from his posting, even when I disagree.

Niju - is also genuinely behind. I think her having BTSC with nutella gives her a good chance of not being among the evens with role 1. She was killed by Strex N1. Actually, I'm moving her up to the top of my nulls. Evidence points to her first role not being on a scumteam. She hasn't seemed aligned with Wilgy. If he flips town, take a look here maybe.

Cbob - Cbob isn't even. He's blending, which isn't great. If my theory about Strex is right, he isn't scum. His first role doesn't look great. He's my top candidate for 3P, based on role, theories, and performance.

Dom - I don't think Dom outed LC. I've disliked quite a few aspects of Dom's play, but my theory doesn't allow him to be scum. I'm trying to discard bias given that most of the aggravations I've had with his play are emotional, either on my side or his. Give him a good chance. I'll leave that to you guys.

LoRab - I don't think scum held the button. I think Lorab, based on recent posts, is genuinely behind. Not sure if that's alignment indicative. I'm not pinged by her, but I don't have much to go on.

Boomslang - I have no impression here.

Sloonei and Spacedaisy are both people I expect a town ping from pretty quickly. I haven't gotten that. I've hardly noticed their presence.

INH - reacted quickly to suspicion earlier. To me it felt more like "I am not getting lynched for such a stupid reason" rather than genuine baffled innocence. Could go to either alignment, but didn't give me good feels.

sig - It's very difficult to place Sig right now. I usually have good feels about Sig, but I'm usually trying to mislynch him. The only good thing about sig is that he was killed by Strex. If he's evens, he bloody well knows that he's wrong about me, and is using what he perceives as a false flag near-scumfirm to get a free townie lynch. Of all the people calling for my head, I feel the worst about him, because of the way he's shoving the suspicion off on mechanics. Deniability. Ergh.

DDL - I've had bad feels about him all game. Now that I know LC saved him in favor of lynching nutella of all people, I'm simply confused. If you want more elaboration, go back and read my posts.

Kylemii - same as sloonei and Spacedaisy, but to a greater degree. I hardly knew that Kylemii was in the game until this post. What's with that? Maybe he should be just above sig, but unlike sig, he hasn't been nightkilled and I have no reason wehatsoever to townread.

DrWilgy - :o

hella linkis to respond to

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:54 pm Cerberus V1:
Boomslang
DrWilgy - targeted Marmot with pseudo-killing role? Not Strex?
insertnamehere
JackofHearts - killed by Strex twice, probably town
Kylemii
LoRab - Button that switched tribes.
Marmot - Strex
nijuukyugou - killed night 1 by Strex, nutella's BTSC partner
Scotty - has been nightkilled once
sig
Sloonei - selected to spy on other tribe
Spacedaisy
-------(At least one Even present in Cerberus)-------

Pikachu V1:
colonialbob - First role was a trap. Evens sprung that trap. Likely not an Even.
dharmahelper - Candidate for haiku.
Dom - Called out LC's slip. Not an Even. Candidate for haiku.
Dragon D Luffy - Accidentally died, then rezzed with 2 lives in second role. LC was the reason for the rez. But that also killed nutella.
Epignosis - Has been trying to clear town. Candidate for haiku?
Long Con - Even
Nutella - Even
Quin - still townfirmed
Speedchuck - mathematically confirmed town with first role. Implicated by nutella flip, which cannot target a teammate. Still town tho.
sprityo - First role was Cecil, town? announcer
S~V~S - First role was a trap that SVS tried her best not to spring. Towny behavior.
-------(No evidence of Strexcorp presence)-------

Cerberus V2:
Boomslang
ColonialBob - First role was a trap. Evens sprung that trap. Likely not an Even.
Dom - Called out LC's slip. Not an Even. Candidate for haiku.
Dragon D. Luffy - Accidentally died, then rezzed with 2 lives in second role. LC was the reason for the rez. But that also killed nutella.
insertnamehere
LoRab - Button that switched tribes.
Nijuukyugou - killed night 1, nutella's BTSC partner
Quin - still townfirmed
sig
S~V~S - First role was a trap that SVS tried her best not to spring. Towny behavior. Killed by Evens.
Speedchuck - mathematically confirmed town with first role. Implicated by nutella flip, which cannot target a teammate. Still town tho.

Pikachu V2:
dharmahelper - Candidate for haiku.
DrWilgy - targeted Marmot with pseudo-killing role? Not Strex?
Epignosis - Has been trying to clear town. Candidate for haiku?
Kylemii
Marmot - Strex
nutella - Even
Scotty - has been nightkilled once, by the evens
Sloonei - selected to spy on other tribe in v1
Spacedaisy
sprityo - First role was Cecil, town? announcer

Players that moved from Pikachu to Cerberus: cbob, dom, ddl, quin, svs, speedchuck
Players that moved from Cerberus to Pikachu: Wilgy, Kyle, Marmot, Scotty, Sloonei, Daisy

DEATHS:
D1 - Quin - survived
N1 - niju (Strexkill)
D2 - speedchuck
N2 - Scotty (Evens)
D3 - nutella (changed from DDL)
N3 - JoH (Strexkill)
INH dies
D4 - Long Con
N4 - Evens blocked by Strex
D5 - Long Con
N5 - Sig (Strex)
D6 - Cbob
N6 - SVS (Evens)
D7 - Marmot

BUTTON

N7 - JoH (Strex)
Nutella dies
D8 - Marmot
N8 - Sprityo (Evens)
LoRab Dies
MERGE
D9 - Wilgy

I've got this thing copied, and I'm making notes as I go. Is it missing anything?

I'm quoting this post. Keep track, guys. We get so much information by lynching and nightkills in this setup.

Upcoming is a readlist based on this.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:01 pm

Speedchuck wrote:I don't mind being lynched, but you guys are NOT going to shame and cast suspicion on the open-minded players in this game.

Hey dude, how bout some legacy reads in the case that the rest of the tribe gets their shit together? I mean, regardless, you did promise maybe

I will. I'll give a POE + readlist with reasons for every player before dayend.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:54 am we've got someone who's basically an outted scum and mechanically bad.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:56 am She thinks Speed is bad AND HE HAS BEEN MECHANICALLY OUTTED,

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:00 pm Here is the thing with the knowledge we have Speed is mafia. Nutella role and the fact we know there are two teams proves that.

I get that occam's razor points to me being bad, but come on. This is blatantly false.

-

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:32 am Speedchuck needs to die today. Crocodile tears be damned.

I don't mind being lynched, but you guys are NOT going to shame and cast suspicion on the open-minded players in this game. I refuse to let that be a thing. I think my flip will clear things up, so long as you don't go over the rainbow to tinfoil land. But agh, this grates.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:25 pm Fuck it I'm a messy bitch and I live for Drama

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

(didn't actually vote)

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:21 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:20 pm not interested in moving you epi.
i doubt a town flip from the nightkill will help me DH, but I do think Wilgy is scum, so Id be willing to swap.

You're on your last life aren't you?

I am. [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:15 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:29 pm IDK. Maybe I'll feel like supahtowning tomorrow. Maybe not. I'm just weary right now.

When people were listening to me, and hell, listening to logic, I could talk. I could discuss. But when people are saying things
like
"There are no assumptions whatsoever we must make for Speedchuck to be scum"
and
"Speed looks towny but that doesn't matter because he looks towny when scum"
and
"Town people can't hope for certain civ flips"
and
"Speed will flip town but will still be scum because of convoluted role nonsense that must exist because I said so"

It makes me feel like I'm wasting effort, throwing logic into the void for it to be devoured by the pitchfork-laden mob. I can deal with people being wrong, but not people being illogical.

What happened to the whole ‘i Would lynch me if I were you’ attitude you had before?

Listen man. You just spinnin webs like a silkworm. How bout some reads before you die

I mean, I would be inclined. Maybe not immediately. But I'd be on the list.

That doesn't mean I'm not going to try to help town. And my lynch does not help town, unless it is needed for discussion to move on.

not interested in moving you epi.
i doubt a town flip from the nightkill will help me DH, but I do think Wilgy is scum, so Id be willing to swap.

IDK. Maybe I'll feel like supahtowning tomorrow. Maybe not. I'm just weary right now.

When people were listening to me, and hell, listening to logic, I could talk. I could discuss. But when people are saying things
like
"There are no assumptions whatsoever we must make for Speedchuck to be scum"
and
"Speed looks towny but that doesn't matter because he looks towny when scum"
and
"Town people can't hope for certain civ flips"
and
"Speed will flip town but will still be scum because of convoluted role nonsense that must exist because I said so"

It makes me feel like I'm wasting effort, throwing logic into the void for it to be devoured by the pitchfork-laden mob. I can deal with people being wrong, but not people being illogical.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:48 pm Do you suspect these people or not? Who are they? What would you accuse them of being?

It annoys me. It's taking a good town performance, of which I have few, and throwing it in the trash.

No, I don't really suspect Sprit. Maybe Sig. I wouldn't make any accusations based on this.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:06 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:48 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:50 pm At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

Yes you will show town
But you won't *BE* town; wishing
civs dead isn't town

I can't even talk to you right now. This is ridiculous for about 5 different reasons.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:07 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:06 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:48 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:50 pm At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

I am paraphrasing the person above me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:02 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:22 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:19 pm saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

I don't understand the purpose of this post.

Back on my computer.

I dislike that people are saying "Speed looks town, but he's unreadable because he fooled me before."
It sets a bad precedent.

That's not why you have a hundred votes.

That is what I said. Just above. Right there. I'll highlight it.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:48 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:50 pm At this point I'm almost wishing speedchuck gets lynched and shows up good so you'll get off my ass.

Aw, shit.

What? I'm gonna show up good. Have a little faith.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:22 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:19 pm saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

I don't understand the purpose of this post.

Back on my computer.

I dislike that people are saying "Speed looks town, but he's unreadable because he fooled me before."
It sets a bad precedent.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:45 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:16 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:36 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:35 pm
svs why is it scummy for me to hope that I get cleared by a night flip? I don't understand.

Really? Well, because
You are hoping for a civ
to die in the night

For you to be made
clear by a flip then someone
else had to die, right?

You don't see how a
wish for a civvie to die
Is not town minded?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:55 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:07 am
Baddies do this too
How is starting a wagon
Make one a townie?

It doesn't, by itself, but I have no idea what Dom was trying to accuse me of there.

Also, did you see my tag of you mentioning that it seems you can post in prose without any ill effect and just not gain the bonus?

Yes, I did, but its
more respectful to the host
to play out the curse

no, I do not understand. explain.

though given your position on haikus, we may just have different town values.

Civs don't hope civs die
For their own self benefit
Civs don't hope civs die

Civs don't hope civs die
Civs don't hope other civs die
Civs don't hope civs die

If civ is going to die anyway during the night
If civs are going down one by one as is the nature of the game
If a civ gets mislynched despite best intentions

I can hope it's the right one so that town can avoid another mislynch and I can contribute to the game.

saying that I'm a good scum player better not become a common justification for my lynch.

you have a reason already. why justify it with that crap?

linki I would lynch kyle

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:36 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:35 pm
svs why is it scummy for me to hope that I get cleared by a night flip? I don't understand.

Really? Well, because
You are hoping for a civ
to die in the night

For you to be made
clear by a flip then someone
else had to die, right?

You don't see how a
wish for a civvie to die
Is not town minded?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:55 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:07 am
Baddies do this too
How is starting a wagon
Make one a townie?

It doesn't, by itself, but I have no idea what Dom was trying to accuse me of there.

Also, did you see my tag of you mentioning that it seems you can post in prose without any ill effect and just not gain the bonus?

Yes, I did, but its
more respectful to the host
to play out the curse

no, I do not understand. explain.

though given your position on haikus, we may just have different town values.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

you guys have a great lead with a lot of good avenues to follow. i've tried my best this game. don't screw it up.

I'll give some legacy hunting before I face the music.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:40 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:31 pm sig fell for me in FE.

That's it?

So what's sig going to do? Lynch you in every game you two play together forever?

at least when mechanics point to me as a strong possibility

sig fell for me in FE.

epi makes some good points. all good points. none I can argue with.

like I said earlier, if you want to lynch me, decide soon so that you can move on with the hunt.

I'm on my phone.

svs why is it scummy for me to hope that I get cleared by a night flip? I don't understand.

please make sure everyone at least UNDERSTANDS why I am up for lynch. I see some confused votes, and that is kinda ridiculous.

for me to be scum, I have to be strex. which means strex was in pika v1. it also means mutella randomly happened to target me, hoping to frame me. it also means that I was recruited, as I have been mathematically proven as town in my first role (especially now, since basically all of the Pika roles have been revealed.)

I can can elaborate more when I get home this afternoon, but occams razor isnt giving me a clean shave. you have to make assumptions for me to be scum, too.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:26 am

speedchuck wrote:I could go for wilgy today. You guys know what my role is, and given how much effect it's had so far, I don't think I should be considered an urgent lynch. And I'm kinda hoping that the nightkill magically reveals whatever role targeted me.

I must have missed something. I don’t know what role you are or what you are referencing.

I was publicly role-revealed. That's why people want to lynch me. I was revealed as a town role back in the tribes, and then nutella flipped.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:31 pm @Sloonei I also believe speed looks very townie atm.

It’s what I would do if I wanted the town to trust me when all signs proverbially pointed to me being bad. I’d want to pick it up a notch and put forth my best effort.

He could be town, and in that case I’m super sorry that things are panning out this way.

If he’s good and we lynch him, the best thing he can do in any situation is leave us a legacy, like my uncle.

speedchuck is one of the best fakers i've ever played with. For what it is worth

I appreciate the compliment. I won't even be mad if my unreadableness gets me lynched.

I could go for wilgy today. You guys know what my role is, and given how much effect it's had so far, I don't think I should be considered an urgent lynch. And I'm kinda hoping that the nightkill magically reveals whatever role targeted me.

But that's not likely.

Should you lynch me? I'd lynch me. If I saw nutella's flip right after a guy was 'confirmed town', especially 'confirmed town with malicious role', I'd sit my butt right on it. I wouldn't blame anyone for doing that. If anything, given my inevitable lynch, the scum in this game should be the ones more hesitant about supporting it, not knowing what I'll flip as.

I'll flip town.

But I'm not complaining about the lynch.

linki: bleh I think INH seems genuine. His vote on Wilgy was of the townie mindset that he don't care what people think, he doin what he do. His indignant response to the tiny vote train rang true. I'll not be looking there today.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:34 pm How are you feeling on that Strexcorp theory?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:08 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:47 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:55 pm This is feeling mean
I will be back to vote and
complete my ten posts

Second of all fuck whoever keeps doing this to SVS

I don't see why this is an issue. Post in haikus and don't get lynched. Good deal if you ask me.

SVS likes posting long posts with lots of thoughts, and has expressed frustration with this role before. Makes me think Refrigerator may be bad. Who is it down to by PoE? Dom & Quin?

I'm feeling even better about Strex not existing in Pikachu. Epi, you, and Dom are the only plausible options for it.

She could just, not post in haiku. I don't think she'll be lynched today anyway.

Dom and Quin, yeah. Maybe Epi. But Quin is confirmed town by math, especially with no other vote manipulators flipping from Pika v1.
Also refrigerator is probably town.

I'm town. I'm willing to engage anyone on theorycrafting, scumhunting, and trying to figure me out, so long as their posts don't consist of snark and sarcasm.

If I am to die today, decide SOON, so that we can spend the rest of the day hunting and get some POE spec done. I'm good at that, and I can leave you guys with good footing.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:37 pm DrWilgy's number is 666.

Number of the Beast

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 2:23 pm I don’t know what I did wrong in quoting that post, no matter what I do to try and re-edit it.


Oh well, just a hunk of unsalvagable drivel anyway

What happened was that you tried to separate all of those quotes, when they all belonged to the same person. You can't just add ending vote tages for no reason.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:47 pm Does anyone want to analyse why Strexcorp wanted JackofHearts dead so badly?

Well, jack was pretty consensus town in our tribe. Plus, they killed him on N5 and they technically wouldn’t be able to kill him on N7, so it makes sense I guess.

Which mkes me wonder why they’re letting nijuu live

They did not kill him N5. I have a chart above.