The Syndicate

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:09 am i still don't totally understand, did speedchuck not know he was a wolf until turnip wolfclaimed?

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:32 pm He more than likely operated under being town Seer until Kyle claimed his actions

I began as the seer. I did not know what I ended up as. I checked some of the unused roles to begin with.

My plan was to claim late so that I could contradict some lying wolfies. I operated knowing that I was LIKELY town, but didn't play all of my cards up front. When Kylemii and TH claimed, I believed them. I had already seen two of the unused roles, including the minion, and nobody else was disputing Kylemii's claim.

So I used what I had. I knew the minion was unused, so I claimed that Kyle had it and that the troublemaker was unused. The claim fit the facts perfectly, since nobody else knew that the minion was unused.

I played adaptively, ready to either trip up a liar or make up something to defend myself. That is why I did not claim everything early on.

Unfortunately, I was the one with experience in this game, as was pointed out. And so if either me or Kylemii was pulling a gambit that made perfect since, it made more sense for it to be me.

Also even when I'm town, I'm scum. It was well-played by all.

Even when I roll town cop, I still am scum.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:09 pm ty Kyle for the free win

That's how ONW usually goes. It gets narrowed down to a single set of lies and claims.

Also I'm pretty sure my knowledge worked against me. I was the only one who knew the game, so I was the only one who could be gambiting.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:05 pm Speedchuck you bastard.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:04 pm gg ya'll. sorry, speed. I was so confused by your explanations when I knew you were bullshitting away.

That's alright. I played a near-perfect claim game, but my tone was off.

It always is in burglaries. I've lost every scum burglary I've played.

You win this time [mention]Kylemii[/mention]

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:00 pmPlease hold

Thread is locked

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:00 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:59 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:58 pm like... speed fake claiming seer is brave but seems like a ploy he could pull off

I doppled him so that part is true.

or you're his wolfmate...fuck i'm worried about this

Good. You should be ashamed.

Luna halp

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:58 pm Get off me

If I fits, I sits

There is definitely wolves

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:57 pm let it be known

THERE CAN BE NO TIES

Ties usually lynch both people in this game pls don't do that it will guarantee scum win

It's that simple.

No.

Luna lies.
Kyle lies.
TH tells the truth, but is also wolf.
Dunya lies.

Tanner, minion, wolf, wolf.

5 minutes.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:53 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:52 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:51 pm I feel bad for using this but I feel like sprityo wouldn't have laughed about my joke of speed being always scum if speed was scum... like subconsciously he wouldn't do it.

Wait

You claimed hunter, insinuating that I'm lying

and then you vote for TH

??

sprityo said in my pm that's what he sent Quin and that I should keep in mind my role may have been changed.

You physically cannot be the hunter. I checked before roles changed.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:52 pm Can someone smart tell me if speed clarified this or not above because I'm not following him

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:46 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:44 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:42 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:42 pm Kyle and Turnip Head, please give us your defense

I don't have a defense, I'm a fuckin wolfbro

@speedchuck could turnip be the tanner? I'm kind of afraid of that but i also kind of think dunya's the tanner so...?

Tanner wouldn't have Kylemii to coordinate with them.

Wait no you're right. TH could indeed be tanner. Crap.

Trying to wrap my head around it.

If Kylemii was trying to trick TH, then that would work. But he hasn't reneged his claim. So it's not possible.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:51 pm I feel bad for using this but I feel like sprityo wouldn't have laughed about my joke of speed being always scum if speed was scum... like subconsciously he wouldn't do it.

Wait

You claimed hunter, insinuating that I'm lying

and then you vote for TH

??

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:51 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:38 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:37 pm dunya plz claim and speedchuck plz explain

The toublemaker is an unused role this game. I'm the seer.

Kylemii is lying, either to protect TH or to pull out the rug from under him.

TH is scum.

this is 100% false, I am the troublemaker, and as far as I know that hasn't changed. I swapped th and speed's roles cus they are my mafia rivals. I don't really know what else is happening but speed claiming the troublemaker isn't in play is a complete lie. Lynch speedchuck.

You're two-timing me?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:50 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:49 pm Speed can you clarify what you meant about the tanner (Turnip) and Kyle being able to coordinate?

the minion knows who the wolves are but the tanner doesn't, so if kyle was the minion he would know TH was a wolf and want to protect him, but if not..... idk i guess TH could be a tanner and claim wolf but now i'm more confused

But if TH was the tanner then Kyle wouldn't have tried to cast suspicion.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:49 pm Luna is lying because I'm the Hunter.

HUNTER IS AN UNUSED ROLE

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:49 pm Speed can you clarify what you meant about the tanner (Turnip) and Kyle being able to coordinate?

If TH was the tanner, Kyle wouldn't have lied and claimed Troublemaker to protect him.

Kyle knew TH's role, being the minion/other wolf, and is trying to get me lynched instead.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:48 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:47 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:47 pm So I'm actually the hunter. Did't really want to claim in case I got to use it...

Hunter is in the middle.

Let me clarify: I was the hunter at the start of the night.

Name one role that could put the hunter into the middle before the seer sees it.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:47 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:47 pm Lunalee is the tanner.

oh...... k

Oh good.

Then we can lynch TH

Lies, lies, lies, Lunalies.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:47 pm So I'm actually the hunter. Did't really want to claim in case I got to use it...

Hunter is in the middle.

Okay. Yeah.

Fair enough.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:44 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:42 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:42 pm Kyle and Turnip Head, please give us your defense

I don't have a defense, I'm a fuckin wolfbro

@speedchuck could turnip be the tanner? I'm kind of afraid of that but i also kind of think dunya's the tanner so...?

Tanner wouldn't have Kylemii to coordinate with them.

Wait no you're right. TH could indeed be tanner. Crap.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:44 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:42 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:42 pm Kyle and Turnip Head, please give us your defense

I don't have a defense, I'm a fuckin wolfbro

@speedchuck could turnip be the tanner? I'm kind of afraid of that but i also kind of think dunya's the tanner so...?

Tanner wouldn't have Kylemii to coordinate with them.

Two worlds:

1.
Speed - Seer
Kylemii - lying minion
TH - wolf

Kylemii lies and says he gave me TH's role to frame me.

2.
Speed - lying seer, turned wolf
Kylemii - real troublemaker
TH - wolf, turned seer

Does everyone understand this?

Nothing else matters now.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:39 pm speed are you using the term "middle" to describe the unused roles is that what you're saying

Sorry, yes

Middle = unused roles. I'm used to playing on a table with cards.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:38 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:36 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:36 pm

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:32 pm lmao speedchuck. always scum

duyna, you still haven't claimed. Care to?

not really. i never claim.

Why?

it goes against my mafia ethics. I prefer a good old scumhunt using my role as opposed to everyone claiming.

Not how ONW works, but you do you.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:37 pm also hunter isn't in the middle?

It is in the middle.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:37 pm dunya plz claim and speedchuck plz explain

The toublemaker is an unused role this game. I'm the seer.

Kylemii is lying, either to protect TH or to pull out the rug from under him.

TH is scum.

Colin - Doppleseer
Kylemii - ?? (Minion?)
Luna - Insomniac
Mongoose - mason
MP - mason
Nut - was drunky, now ?
SD - Robber
Speed - Seer
TH - Wolf
Q/Dunya - Wolf?

Middle (I'm the seer, I can look at 2 of these) - Troublemaker, Drunk, Hunter

We now have three options.

1. [mention]Kylemii[/mention] is telling the truth, and Turnip Head was switched with me. I am now a wolf.
2. Kylemii was lying to trick Turnip Head, and will now take it back and condemn TH for his claim.
3. Kylemii is a minion covering for Turnip head, and trying to frame me.

Fun fact: Troublemaker's in the middle, guys. It's either option two or three. Hunter is also in the middle.

Voting Turnip Head

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:30 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:28 pm I am the troublemaker, I troublemade speedchuck and turniphead

Let's make some sexy trouble speedchuck

I am a wolf

[mention]Turnip Head[/mention] Please tell me you were not a wolf

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:29 pm How are we supposed to kill four people if we only have one vote?

The results of the one lynch decide the game.

We lynch town, we lose.

We lynch a wolf, we win.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:28 pm I am the troublemaker, I troublemade speedchuck and turniphead

oh heckin crap

If you are town, we've reached a point where there's no reason not to claim.

If you are the troublemaker, please, PLEASE claim lol

Colin - Doppelganger/Seer
MP - Mason
Mongoose - Mason
Lunalee - Insomniac
Nutella - Drunk
Speedchuck - Seer
Daisy - Robber?

Unclaimed - Dunya, TH, Kylemii

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:24 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:22 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:20 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:19 pm @nutella Which card did you pick?

2 but how does that tell you anything?

Curses.

It doesn't.

I'm the seer. I checked unused roles 1 and 3. No idea what you are either.

I doppled speedchuck. I can verify this.

I also checked one person's role, and one person is lying.

Swag

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:23 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:22 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:20 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:19 pm @nutella Which card did you pick?

2 but how does that tell you anything?

Curses.

It doesn't.

I'm the seer. I checked unused roles 1 and 3. No idea what you are either.

oh so you know what they are? that'll help narrow it down

I'm waiting to see if anyone claims one of the roles I looked at.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:21 pm Well I find this whole thing confusing and i will be no help at all. I was given the robber role but i didn't use it because I didn't understand it, go figure. Whatever man.

Oooh.

When I play in person, we have no choice but to use the roles. But the roles DO say "May," so...

[mention]sprityo[/mention] can't confirm or deny anything.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:20 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:19 pm @nutella Which card did you pick?

2 but how does that tell you anything?

Curses.

It doesn't.

I'm the seer. I checked unused roles 1 and 3. No idea what you are either.

Or unused role or whatev. I think you get to pick between 1, 2, and 3?

[mention]nutella[/mention] Which card did you pick?