The Syndicate

sprityo wrote:
Adam wrote:I am removing my vote from Epi and placing it on Raven

I want to see some more posts from IR.
I think we should opt to have him replaced soon if he doesn't show

I believe he posted once during this phase so far.

But, if you enjoy smugly making your voters wrong by letting them mislynch you... then why did you roleclaim? :eye: Vote Epignosis I'm loving this dichotom. Epignosis claims and Realmers back off while Syndicate jumps on. Here is a request to Syndicate folks: does someone want to take the lead in d...

Let me restate: If have done several things to push for information. Good way to go or bad way to go, I did it. Instead of accusing me for doing it wrong or doing it in an unhelpful way (but without dismissing the possibility, for sake of argument), what would the syndicate do instead to gather info...

gfish when did you change your vote? jack-- wh ywon't you play ball with me? Some time after Lon Con posted a claim on Epi's behalf, but not right away. I said I was going to, then forgot and got caught up in other stuff. I moved it to jackofhearts. MOstly for lack of somewhere else to put it, but ...

Were you that confident in your read of Epi? That was the important one. Confident enough to use it. I wanted to interact with someone outside the realms. His posts right around end phase struck me as someone happy with the lynch and happy to not have his name attached. You can disagree with the re...

I am removing my vote from Epi and placing it on Raven I want to see some more posts from IR. How active is Raven normally? Nifty, Gfish, how do you feel about Adam's swap?. Adam's swap: I'm totally neutral with it. Pressure votes on an absent player sometimes help, mostly if that player is lurking...

How does that work in this environment? I understand pressure voring, but half the players aren't doing this, so where does that place baddies? Gfish, you haven't acknowledged me in awhile. Why? I responded to you earlier this phase: I tend to view you as town, slight read. You haven't added anythi...

Both have happened. In the majority of our setups, a kill attempt is mandatory from the mafia (or both mafias, as the case may sometimes be). Mafia members tend to be included in the random roll, which increases pressure to get folks submitting actions. I didn't find his hint claim to be flexible. ...

This is getting too interesting. How so? And yes, I'm pretty dense at times. Epi getting nervous and roleclaiming is not something I'd expect him to do as a Civ on his lonesome. I think his roleclaim was uncharacteristic and influenced by Realms members of his team. And then you Freudian Slip "...

Long Con wrote:This is getting too interesting.

How so?

And yes, I'm pretty dense at times.

Long Con wrote:So, Freud would say you think Epi is fake-claiming, is that correct?

I assume you mean me as Fred is more suspicious of me than Epi.

I inherently find hint claiming suspicious. I don't think s/he is fake claiming. I don't think s/he is claiming at all and hiding behind righteous ambiguity.

You don't know what tends to happen because you've never before participated here. This is a brand new dynamic. Are you forget we have TWO mods, one bringing the Realms style and one bringing the syndicate style? If your argument is that I am too new to understand, I don't really care. If your argu...

You don't know what tends to happen because you've never before participated here. This is a brand new dynamic. Are you forget we have TWO mods, one bringing the Realms style and one bringing the syndicate style? If your argument is that I am too new to understand, I don't really care. If your argu...

You guys act like I care about your little "pressure votes." It's cute. I have no intention to vote to save myself if it comes to that. If you want my lynch, you will have it, and you will have to deal with two poor lynches in a row. You know what else is cute? That some think you can fig...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:I agree with your analysis on Fred. Fred is only scum if someone counterclaims Joker (unlikely) or if Bob's role was forged (also unlikely?).

Whats forged? I don't think I've seen that term.

And no - the haircut guys couldn't get me in yet when I called them - but its going to look amazing.

Epignosis wrote:I have to leave for forty minutes. See if you can work out my role.

Time starts...now.

In that time I plan on running out for a haircut and will do no such thing. My vote stays.

Epignosis wrote:
gfishfunk wrote:Care to claim role?
You're not real perceptive.

Correct. Care to claim role?

Were you that confident in your read of Epi? That was the important one. Confident enough to use it. I wanted to interact with someone outside the realms. His posts right around end phase struck me as someone happy with the lynch and happy to not have his name attached. You can disagree with the re...

If you decide your best course of action is to lynch me because you blocked me, oh well. I can't convince you or your gang otherwise if that's how you function. You should note that the only people voting me are people who have zero experience with me. So when I get lynched, and you learn that you ...

Were you that confident in your read of Epi? That was the important one. Confident enough to use it. I wanted to interact with someone outside the realms. His posts right around end phase struck me as someone happy with the lynch and happy to not have his name attached. You can disagree with the re...

Epignosis wrote:There were eight mafia divided into two teams. Nineteen people missed the Day 1 vote. Eight people failed to send in a kill Night 1.

Eight damn people.

Y'all go on and marinate on that for a minute.

Thats actually pretty hilarious. And it boggles the mind.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms Day 1: Half of the field missed the vote. Nineteen people. Romance of the Three Kingdoms Night 1: Day 2: The Farmers of Hsiaop’ei are Troubled 雞和山羊 The death of Ahuinan, Meng Huo’s third ravine chief of Nanzhong, resulted in a series of misfortune for the farmers of Hs...

Here's something to chew on: If I am bad and on a team, I'm usually not going to be the one carrying out the kill. Can you guess why? But y'all go ahead with yay role blocks if you want to. Civilians are fucked if that's the operating procedure. Not having played with you, I wouldn't know. At the s...

@ S-V-S: I'm not going to deny that there are other possibilities, and I definitely did not notice the second protector role - but I am willing to assume the other protector role is not int he game after we lost a bodyguard and a doctor already. Still - a lead is a lead is a lead. @ Adam: I'm chalki...

For what it's worth, I don't think bob got killed because people read him as civ. bob got killed because someone from the Realms told their buddies that the longer bob stayed around the worse it would be for them. Jack is prone to having the town turn against him, I_R was too quiet yesterday to be ...

Re: DrWigly: I am not terribly concerned about not getting killed tonight. Just a quick ctrl F search shows all possible roleblock roles on the front page if you all want to take a look. There are six roles that can roleblock, all alliance. I think all are one-shots (if I am not misreading or skippi...

So you immediately rely on circumstantial evidence. When a third of the population missed the vote. Forgive me if I too do not think highly of your "playstyle." Neat use of quotes. You were posting actively up through the end of the phase so I targeted you. Its circumstantial -- like all ...

I'd like to know why Gfish would hard claim role blocker with no doctor. Because I'm scum hunting? I don't understand why you WOULDN'T say that you role blocked someone when fewer kills than expected occurred and you KNOW the doctor is gone. There is a good chance you blocked a kill, meaning that t...

REAPERS (3 roles) They share behind the scenes communication. Win the game by eliminating the Alliance, Cerberus, and any hostile independents. They kill on Nights 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10, 12 (and so on with even-numbered nights) CERBERUS (3 roles) They share behind the scenes communication. Win the g...

Right now, my topic scum pick is Epignosis for a simple reason. Epi was pinging some of the syndicate and did not vote. I targeted Epi with a role block. Only one kill occurred last night, and there should have been two (see the roles in he beginning). With no doctor and no bodyguard, the lack of a...

Right now, my topic scum pick is Epignosis for a simple reason. Epi was pinging some of the syndicate and did not vote. I targeted Epi with a role block. Only one kill occurred last night, and there should have been two (see the roles in he beginning). With no doctor and no bodyguard, the lack of a ...

So Saren is in the game, I'm vanilla now. Kinda sucks, not as much as EDI dying (sniff) That a claim? Also, what do you synidcatians do? We usually discuss the write-up for a bit (there isn't any), and pressure each other based on our night actions. I'll be jumping in and out tonight but on a lot m...

Long Con wrote: Do you like or dislike it?

Slight dislike. I generally take the night phase to recuperate, maintain personal relationships, and convince my wife to stay with me.

Having the game open all the time is actually a little stressful.

gfishfunk wrote: I need to expect less end game movement from everyone.

End phase movent. But end game. Whatever.

Having an open thread during the night phase is weird.

Bad town picks realizing that this is just my thought process: thellama73 (Don't tell me what to do), CaptainNifty (MovingPictures07), Jackofhearts2005 (MovingPictures07), and Adam (colonialbo). The commonality is that they all mentioned someone that had already been mentioned. (Yes, Adam, I was sp...

Long Con wrote:
gfishfunk wrote:Feel free to thank randomly in the air, but I was the one that insisted that everyone do it. If that isn't hella town then I don't know what is.
Cool. Can I use that trick next time I'm bad then?

Feel free!

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... wait.

... Ok, yeah. I see what you did there.

I'm going to suggest that others who have played more with him answer this, but Silver as maf tends to play things off more and be a little less direct while maintaining a general offensive persona, where town Silver can and sometimes will verbally assault you for voting for him. I second this. Sil...

Shit, it's had been 48 hours already? Sucks I missed EoD. Sorry for those people who wanted a vote from my I was unlikely to vote for anyone on Day 1. As to initial reactions to day 1 and in general. I really don't have a lot of experience in Double mafia games, usually our games aren't big enough ...

Dizzy beat me to it. Gfunk, all this does is set up Wifom for baddies and give uneeded info to mafia teams. If you'd like to trigger discussion via this method, this is not the way to do so. We hunt baddies, not civilians. My civ reads are mine to have but not to paint targets. I know a lot people ...

Epi: I tend to do the same meta-response. Interesting term: recency bias. I'm very guilty of this phases 1 & 2 in games. Gfish, why llama? Just gut right now, which I already established was bad. Why llama instead of Jack? I thought Jack contributed more. Also, I didn't want to cement Jack as th...

I did not realize the thread would be open during the night phase. I'll catch up.

colonialbob wrote:Gfish, why llama?

Just gut right now, which I already established was bad.

Dyslexicon wrote:Are we currently standing on a no lynch? Is that what happens if there is a tie? I'd want a lynch rather than no lynch.

I generally have the first person to reach majority lynched in plurality voting.

I'm putting Dyslexicon in my strong town reads. Llama, JoH, or Adam as my strongest scum reads...but...... I would lynch Immortal_Raven for failing to post straight up. Can you explain your Adam read? Going to see if you've mentioned Jack earlier. Overall the participation is a bit lower than I exp...

The diagram was just my way of pointing out that the only person who has votes out of my scum reads was llama, which is why i went that direction. I posted some reads a few hours ago, and haven't seen anything from llama to flip him out of the bottom chunk of the list. As to who's avoiding getting ...

Jackofhearts2005 wrote:Went ahead and voted GFish. Wigly's posts are convincing on top of my suspicions.

I will answer your question when you answer mine. Who is the most town person to you? One person who is not you.

I am voting thellama He's at the intersection of the Venn diagram of players I have scum reads on and players who have votes on them. I also think it's a little weird that more people aren't interested in Long Con and llama's back and forth, almost like some people are studiously avoiding getting i...

I assumed no one else was going to answer at that point. I already got what I wanted out of it. And yes, people are malliable -- but scummers scramble. I like that you are posting something of substance finally. "Finally" what's the aggression for? Probably the wrong word: my read of you ...

Gfish, I'm assuming you think I'm town. Is this true? Yes - slight town read. Sticking to your own guns, disagreeing with my meaningless and arbitrary games and refusing to play - town move. Disagreeing but posting anyway - scum move. Shurgging and shooting from the hip - very town move (that other...

If this were true, I doubt you would've posted the following - To respond to DrWigly - The bolded players either have a similar read to others or copied other random folks for their own reads. Late posts showing new highly town reads appear more genuine to me. Refusal to participate is neither here...

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