The Syndicate

And the flop on Robyn geez

Ran pushing the Bereft -> tsp thing does not sit well with me at all

Also I have like a kinda crazy theory involving mech discussion but I’ll hold until later

I have maybe never played with Ran in a game I took seriously but I don’t think of them as the kind who would make those strong of judgments in favor or against anyone without some sort of coherent framework

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:06 am i’m pinged by ran saying 4 people were “abysmal” cuz it actually feels like nobody is being actively wolfy to me, but maybe im just hard disconnected from the game /shrug

Yeah I’m still kinda pondering that

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:24 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:21 am

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:22 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:12 am Idk don’t make much of it

Do you still have Dyslexicon and Abby as wolfreads or have your views changed in light of the flip?

I think Dizzy looks maybe marginally better from the vote dip, Abby looks bad still

What about Dizzy's parked vote looks good? And can you elaborate on your read of Abby?

The atmosphere around the Robyn push shifted a lot, for Dizzy as a wolf to drop the vote in that manner would require in my mind maybe an unreasonable amount of foresight. This is somewhat of a bad explanation but I just think like it’s not an indicator of agenda. Then again, Dizzy is a good wolf and maybe knows Mac well enough to figure it out.

I don’t think Abby has contributed to the goals of the town in this game and moreover has received little attention and just occasionally some spare defenders saying “read her iso” (which ok I haven’t done). Granted we haven’t launched any wolves so no one has exactly contributed much. I also think it’s bizarre that people keep treating it like it’s a bad push. Like ??? No one has offered a concrete reason that Abby is towny, besides possibly if someone wants to make a spew read.

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:22 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:12 am Idk don’t make much of it

Do you still have Dyslexicon and Abby as wolfreads or have your views changed in light of the flip?

I think Dizzy looks maybe marginally better from the vote dip, Abby looks bad still

Idk don’t make much of it

leetic wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:02 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:00 am

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:44 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:41 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:20 pm I have. Feelings about Robyn but. They are probably not helpful. Regardless we move on. Robyn if you can see this thread I hope you are well.

So.

Rondo, Bereft, TSP, Dizzy all look abysmal to me here. I would like anyone who strongly townreads any of these players to tell me why.

I think TSP is town and moreover I think TSP is out of place with the other three names

Can you go into more elaboration on your vote yesterday? You said it was because you didn't support a tedxtr lynch but it was not like they were in any real danger at that point

It wasn’t about Ted at all it really was sorta a statement about “I will vote people who are done playing the game.” I usually have no problem leaving my vote off wagon

If robyn had shown up, who would you have voted?

Would have left the vote off wagon, probably on Abigail or maybe would have shifted to Dizzy

Why did Nutella exit in this thread is sorta an interesting question, she was never in this thread

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:44 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:41 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:20 pm I have. Feelings about Robyn but. They are probably not helpful. Regardless we move on. Robyn if you can see this thread I hope you are well.

So.

Rondo, Bereft, TSP, Dizzy all look abysmal to me here. I would like anyone who strongly townreads any of these players to tell me why.

I think TSP is town and moreover I think TSP is out of place with the other three names

Can you go into more elaboration on your vote yesterday? You said it was because you didn't support a tedxtr lynch but it was not like they were in any real danger at that point

It wasn’t about Ted at all it really was sorta a statement about “I will vote people who are done playing the game.” I usually have no problem leaving my vote off wagon

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 10:20 pm I have. Feelings about Robyn but. They are probably not helpful. Regardless we move on. Robyn if you can see this thread I hope you are well.

So.

Rondo, Bereft, TSP, Dizzy all look abysmal to me here. I would like anyone who strongly townreads any of these players to tell me why.

I think TSP is town and moreover I think TSP is out of place with the other three names

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:01 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:01 pm Ted is not really a good choice today I think and like I don’t know what to do with Robyn but if we’re being forced into resolving it on our terms then oh well

Are there actually better options than these two, though?

Eh i xunno

Ted is not really a good choice today I think and like I don’t know what to do with Robyn but if we’re being forced into resolving it on our terms then oh well

GFDI

Not quite sure where you’re seeing that

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 11:40 am I thought I had a point about Ted, since he has votes. It's just that he very quickly asked Ran about stuff as he was going, as in, there was no delay in the questioning, it was rapid fire, so I think that's good and shows actual thinking. It was about her Rondo read.

Also, @TonyStarkPrime are you setting up a dichotomy between me and Ran? If so, why?

No I don’t have any mental notions about a dichotomy between you and Ran

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:47 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:44 am Is it time to tell you why I was entertaining Robyn and voting Bereft? Or should I save it for later?

HURRY UP PLEASE IT'S TIME

Awesome

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:13 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:24 am Also I got the vibe I should expect them to be top poster / low impact archetype and they’re not top posting which is throwing me somewhat

Someone ought to point out the reverse applies to Abigail but I don’t think of Abigail/Neon as top poster low impact

I've mostly cut out the topposting thing since I don't play as often on FoL anymore tbh. Topposting on a forum that doesnt use discourse just ends up clogging the thread. I still post a lot, for sure, but I don't have quite as much to keep up with and respond to at all times in this format, so i don't have to post every single thought that pops into my head (except when I want to generate discussion on it).

Noted and considered

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:39 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:36 am Ok Abigail is probably town

What changed

I made the archetype read on WWA and then felt stupid

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:38 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:15 am I remembered Neon’s play being qualitatively different from what I’m seeing here in the only game I remember playing with them but they were a wolf in hot dog and so that reason is faltering

I still think that’s a good spot to look

Explain what's diff

You had an edge about you in hot dog that you lack here, more game content and AtE (which granted, not allowed here)

Well theb

Ok Abigail is probably town

Time for my regular “it’s day 1 and Mac is suspecting me I will tinfoil for 30 seconds and then remember Mac always tries to pocket me as a wolf because I’ll do what he says”

Also I got the vibe I should expect them to be top poster / low impact archetype and they’re not top posting which is throwing me somewhat

Someone ought to point out the reverse applies to Abigail but I don’t think of Abigail/Neon as top poster low impact

Doesn’t seem towny on sniff test, bad thread position for town, good thread position for wolf, little attempt made to move game in forward direction (that’s towny for some people I don’t know them that well)

Also I need Gira alive to keep me sane on day 4

I remembered Neon’s play being qualitatively different from what I’m seeing here in the only game I remember playing with them but they were a wolf in hot dog and so that reason is faltering

I still think that’s a good spot to look

No Leetic you’re doing fine

Huh WWA is like fourth

But like really I just don’t understand what you’re doing

Meanwhile I’m wavering between voting for the two people I assume are the two highest posters

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:04 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:07 pm If we are going to roll the dice better to do it on Abigail imo

I don't really think you can say that Ran and Robyn are self resolving and then say this is a better chop. Also I am townreading Abigail, why are you sheeping me townreading Gira but ignoring my townread on Abigail?

Why are you poking the proverbial bear (is a question it’s too late to ask)?

By which I mean — given what I see as relatively true that Dizzy and the Ran/Robyn pair are susceptible to become solved through NKA, and as potential town they are (at least possibly) huge assets, why do you seem so eager to upset that?

The answer is, unlike me, you actually have to fear being killed on night 1 and therefore can’t hold concerns to voice later

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:04 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:07 pm If we are going to roll the dice better to do it on Abigail imo

I don't really think you can say that Ran and Robyn are self resolving and then say this is a better chop. Also I am townreading Abigail, why are you sheeping me townreading Gira but ignoring my townread on Abigail?

I didn’t know that slash am fickle slash have had independent developments in where I’d like to position my vote which I will blame on you

Mac catch up and mind meld on my new secret undisclosed claim

Day ends at 8 central (note for me)

I’m gonna miss eod because of time zone shit right

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:21 pm Nobody besides us thirteen can view this thread I believe (I'm allowed to say this right?) So even if the other fourteen are responsible for this, I doubt it's targeted

agree

Someone over there probably got closer to inheriting the company, thus forcing us to get extra votes

We are NOT consolidating onto bereft and this post is all the evidence I will do to stop it

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:08 pm I mean we don't technically have to consolidate Right Now, but we do need to do it and no time like the present. Bereft was already the spiritual vote, I think that was going unspoken, but I keep on learning that things I think are obvious and going unspoken do in fact need to be spoken.

hey I’ve learned that recently too

(tears involved)

ALARM BELLS

If not I’m also keeping the vote

Ftr if Abigail is Neon I’m keeping the vote

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:51 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:26 pm Why are there votes on all the standarx potential day 1 mischops except Abigail? Therefore I conclude

I havent been chopped d1 since after my third game of Mafia on syndicate. So I doubt the votes are staying there. I would hardly call myself a standard mischop. But maybe thats just my pov

Last game I played on syndi you were so my bias may or may not be reasonable

But like yeah there are categorical differences

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:31 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:26 pm Why are there votes on all the standarx potential day 1 mischops except Abigail? Therefore I conclude

didn't you list off a bunch of people as "i policy won't vote for them d1"?

I’m a contrarian at heart

But point basically holds

Well ok pyxxy is also a standard D1 MDF

Why are there votes on all the standarx potential day 1 mischops except Abigail? Therefore I conclude