The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:32 pm Jack what time did the day actually finish? Did my vote count in time?

Did you have to flip a coin?

Kites wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:27 am wow i’m going thru the stuff posted while i was sleepng and it’s fucking nuts

Reasonable reaction. Also, are you Mafia?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:58 am I'm going to bed while Jack spends the next eight hours calculating votes and writing the host post.

My game’s day closes tomorrow morning at nine and there’s no way I’m going to be awake

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:57 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:52 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:50 am I'm just like... Not feeling this lynch.

I don't know the cbob case. Dr. White at least had some bad looking posts. I feel iffy about the lapluie train members.
'Well I fit right in there, since you already suspect me of some bullshit

Linki: HAAAAA! Yup
what does any of this post mean?

He thinks you’re gonna vote for him
You vote for him and he was right

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:53 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:52 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:51 am [VOTE: long con] aubergine
Mafia horse doesn’t kill town horse night 1
Why? Please be quick.

Long Con doesn’t kill Rabbit because mafia wants to at least try to get a peg knight kill early and likes that option
Nutella might for the town cred

Could all be accidental

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:51 am [VOTE: long con] aubergine

Mafia horse doesn’t kill town horse night 1

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:51 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:50 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:48 am Bob, I think you're Civ and if you weren't already off the block, I'd try to help.

Linki: WILGY! Whatcha drinkin'?
Bob, I don’t but if you switch to someone who isn’t me or DrWhite or Lap I would follow
should've made this offer half an hour ago

I definitely should have but oh well

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:49 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:48 am Bob, I think you're Civ and if you weren't already off the block, I'd try to help.

Linki: WILGY! Whatcha drinkin'?
It started with a margarita. Then a Dr pepper rum, now vodkapunch

Mmm... Dr Pepper

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:48 am Bob, I think you're Civ and if you weren't already off the block, I'd try to help.

Linki: WILGY! Whatcha drinkin'?

Bob, I don’t but if you switch to someone who isn’t me or DrWhite or Lap I would follow

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:32 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:30 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:15 amYou said my exercise had applications. What did you get out of it?
I got close to nothing out of it. It wasn't my thing. If it had been my thing and something I was personally invested in overseeing, I may have prodded specific people about their specific reads as they pertained to their don choices -- similar to the general question you asked, but pointed at specific names, incessantly, and constantly. I don't think the relationship need exist that you imply (I think you imply?), but it's a question which can still produce interesting answers.

As you portrayed it, whether you intended it or not, the result was a waning of the trust enjoyed by dunya and I, and essentially no effect to people who had civilian reads on us. If the latter are the point of contention, then the former shouldn't have become the focus of the discussion.

To be frank, I think the value of the exercise was best seen during it, and the "results" were about as meaningful as gun-to-head reads exercise results would be on Day 0.
I don't agree. I think most people were untruthful in their names because they didn't really give it much thought. I think mafia tried to fake some truthfulness.

This

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:11 am Who feels like an easy lapluie lynch?

The grin is for fun, but I am serious. That's an option I would consider.

I’d actually maybe be down for that.

This is like the most confusing soap opera ever.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:44 am When is the lynch done? Is it already done? Just need to know how much catchup I can do.

We have just over an hour

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:03 am Dr. White's schoolyard insults and his attempts to leave a legacy are civilian-indicative. I suggest votes start moving.

One thing I’ve talked about before but I don’t think in this game is the amount of town credit given for dropping bad arguments vs credit that should be given. JJJ has done this kind of thing several times this game and it makes me tinfoily.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:33 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:27 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:22 pm @ColinIsCool the only thing I don't get is why you brought the nightkill into it when we were barely halfway into the day phase?
I straight up don't understand this question any time anybody's asked it. Because the things you do in the day phase affect how the mafia perceives you and if you get nightkilled on day 1, you don't live to day 2, and you can't contribute useful information/win the game? Is there a difference in fundamental game mechanics between this site and everywhere else in the universe Mafia is played that I'm not getting?
Because he still has ~24 hours to talk about why he asked his question and what he felt like he learned. He doesn't want to do so before everybody has responded because that skews what responses he gets.

Obviously ridiculous example: "please everybody name your favorite animal"
*answers by some but not all*
"Hey Epi why did you ask this?"
"Well see anybody who mentions a predator is scientifically proven to be mafia"
*remaining players all name fuzzy herbivores*

Did those last players respond honestly or because they knew what he waa looking for?

CBob on Colin:
Both of the CBob posts here are kind of outrageous. The first one comes out of nowhere and is not as far as I can tell directly related to anything in the thread. It rehashes an old argument from hours ago that got some swing the first time.
Where Colin's response is directly an answer to the question posed by CBob, CBob's counter response is not about that response at all. It goes back to the "Colin not answering Epi" thing, another argument already dissected in thread.
CBob switches off his vote half an hour later.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:08 pm
colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:02 pm He hasn't addressed my question except for a vague "ISO" and no response to a request for specifics.
The wording is awkward, though I wouldn't say I find it suspicious. It at least begs clarification.

nyStarkPrime, if I correct your initial comment to your intention, I get "I've given up on being unable to read cbob". I still don't know what that means in the context of a post containing a vote for him. What were you trying to say?

Grabbing some questionable CBob posts now but it's taking a bit of time, I can explain this first.

Earlier I had stated that I felt baddish about CBob but I didn't think I could read him well so I didn't want to act on it.
With this I'm saying I don't care about that, he's bad.

@ JJJ Yeah, I will, but I can’t right now and Mobile sucks.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:25 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:46 pm @Marmot
@Kites
@TonyStarkPrime

Tell me about the effort to lynch colonialbob.
My opinion on CBob is that he’s done a lot of set up, where he took some posts and gave the argument for why the posts were scummy without saying so. Someone else can pick up the argument later and he doesn’t have to try and carry it. Also an easy way for mafia to create the appearance of majority support without having to commit that many members to a cause.
Overall day 1 he notably pressured RDW, Colin, and Quin in this way, but RDW was saying crazy things and deserved it. Colin and Quin both were pushed as feasible Day 1 lynches but Cbob ended up on Rabbit even though his arguments against the two carried on and almost led to lynch.
Also I ended up on Quin.

Well that makes you 50 percent more cohesive.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:46 pm @Marmot
@Kites
@TonyStarkPrime

Tell me about the effort to lynch colonialbob.

My opinion on CBob is that he’s done a lot of set up, where he took some posts and gave the argument for why the posts were scummy without saying so. Someone else can pick up the argument later and he doesn’t have to try and carry it. Also an easy way for mafia to create the appearance of majority support without having to commit that many members to a cause.
Overall day 1 he notably pressured RDW, Colin, and Quin in this way, but RDW was saying crazy things and deserved it. Colin and Quin both were pushed as feasible Day 1 lynches but Cbob ended up on Rabbit even though his arguments against the two carried on and almost led to lynch.

Dr. White wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:16 pm Sorry guysbhave been really busy this week with work and valentines day shenanigans. I'm teetering on asking for a replacement so I don't waste the host role if my achedule remains busy.

To answer the question that is continually being asked, I originally wanted to pick marmot because I loved the guy when he played on nF. But i couldn't pick at the time so when i did i just rng'd people and landed on dwarf nd gave him the role i thought he would have best liked.

This is explanatory but unnecessary.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:08 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:44 am
sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:58 pm What does everyone think of Bob and DDF?

I feel like if one of them is mafia the Pegasus knight under them is mafia as well.
Both mafia. If they’re both mafia can they all be mafia? Of Bob and DDL I’m slightly more suspicious of DDL but I can’t read Bob and that psychs me into giving him a null read
This is TSP's first (and only) post where he reads me. He says he suspects DDL over me. He's also given previous scumreads on a few other players.

What changed between last night and this morning TonyStarkPrime?

I read your ISO, pretended you were rabbit8, and I didn’t like it

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:30 pm [VOTE: ColonialBob] aubergine

I’ve given up on being unable to lynch CBob.

CBob why are you not a dirty rotten no-good miscreant?
Why am I? What is this post? Given up on not being able to lynch me?

I meant to say read but lynch works too I guess

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:30 pm [VOTE: ColonialBob] aubergine

I’ve given up on being unable to lynch CBob.

CBob why are you not a dirty rotten no-good miscreant?

# Aubergine

[VOTE: ColonialBob] aubergine

I’ve given up on being unable to lynch CBob.

CBob why are you not a dirty rotten no-good miscreant?

The next person who claims to have misdirected Quin gets policy lynched.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:03 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:14 pm Would anyone be available to replace into a mafia game on HCRealms? It’s pretty laid back over there so it’s not a super big commitment. PM me if interested. CBob not invited.
could you PM me the link to this game specifically. I can't play 2 games at once, but I'm interested in observing the culture over there and Jay's game. maybe if it is laid back, I'll sign up to a future game.

of course, assuming Jay doesn’t object

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:51 am Wait where did he get an alphabetized list @dunya

Wait I’m totally lost.

Wait where did he get an alphabetized list @dunya

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:47 am
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:46 pm MacDougall, what do you think of rundontwalk, sprityo, sig and TSP?
Y those 4?

Alphabetically the last four

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:58 pm What does everyone think of Bob and DDF?

I feel like if one of them is mafia the Pegasus knight under them is mafia as well.

Both mafia. If they’re both mafia can they all be mafia? Of Bob and DDL I’m slightly more suspicious of DDL but I can’t read Bob and that psychs me into giving him a null read

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:17 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:14 pm Would anyone be available to replace into a mafia game on HCRealms? It’s pretty laid back over there so it’s not a super big commitment. PM me if interested. CBob not invited.
Laid back, you say? Let Papa Jay have a look.

It looks like it's over half over, so yeah I can help you out.

They’ll be in for a shock :P I’ll PM you over there.

I read Dr White and Iron Dwarf. Pretty null read on White, slight Maf lean on Dwarf. I’m always leery of early game lunches because of how easy they can be to manipulate but I haven’t seen those tendencies yet against either of them unless JJJ and Dunya are both mafia.

Would anyone be available to replace into a mafia game on HCRealms? It’s pretty laid back over there so it’s not a super big commitment. PM me if interested. CBob not invited.

I don’t have strong reads on Dr White and Iron Dwarf so I’m gonna iso them, but first: a thought.

1. Kites is bad

I was about to say I was tinfoiling on JJJ, but now I’m not sure what I think

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:54 pm
Spoiler: show
dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:54 am this is what my rainbow looks like without colors, cos some people in the world are colorblind and I believe in shared suffering, but I did break them into groups, I'll be happy to take requests on why but only 2 at a time.

dunya

Kenway

MacDougall
JaggedJimmyJay

ColinIsCool
Marmot

sprityo
Dragon D. Luffy
Epignosis
colonialbob

gwilikers6
Kylemii
sig

Iron_Dwarf
Kites
rundontwalk
TonyStarkPrime

Dr. White

rabbit8
lapluie

DrWilgy
Long Con

Quin
nutella

What's the breakdown of this list? Like where does civ start and end ect.

Why do you have LC in scum column?

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am **** ****** ******* Ring

This was TonyStark’s PM last night. Which lines up perfectly with what happened. If he was scum he probably would have had some other power, but then again it may be a passive one.

How do we know this is real?

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:03 am Epi's exercise disappointingly resulted in pretty much exactly what I was expecting, and I'm extrapolating nothing from it.

I think I can confirm that that is a censored version of my PM. I guess we could be w/w but we aren’t.

sig wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:48 pm
Spoiler: show
Kites wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:35 am feels at the moment:
I’m comfortable around:
ColinIsCool
Dr. White
dunya
JJJ
Long Con
MacDougall
Marmot
Neutral:
DDL
gwilikers6
Kylemii
rdw
sprityo
Hmmmm... :
Iron_Dwarf
Kenway
nutella
rabbit8: the longer he’s gone the more I think he’s just not interested in this game
sig
TonyStarkPrime
Confused:
Epignosis - pls start giving reads on people, I’ll leave you alone for now tho
lapluie - post more
Quin - you gotta do more to redeem yourself
Bad feeling:
colonialbob - changed his votes frequently, almost exclusively between inactive people to invite them to talk - afraid to be responsible for false lynch?
DrWilgy - no useful content, weird dunya vote and no explanation

I hope I did the colors right

@Kenway Can you explain your rainbow list in a little bit more detail please?

I believe you have him mixed with someone else.

@Dunya
How’s your Town read on Kenway holding?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:18 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:18 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:17 pm Question before I post too much... did I die yet?
I don’t think so
Nice.

Ok, so what was the mentality behind recruiting Dunya?

IDK

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:17 pm Question before I post too much... did I die yet?

I don’t think so

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:16 pm
lapluie wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:54 am someone ex plain to me why rabbit keeps getting killed.
Oh. I missed this the first time around but you are definitely Mafia.

I’m curious. Why?

I think I know what you’re getting at

Wait people can have the same backstories?

NIGHT 1 ACTIONS

ColinIsCool - Fighter 2
dunya - Thief 1 - Snucked TSP
Kenway - Mage
Kylemii - Sage
Quin - Myrmidon 1
lapluie - Thief 2
JaggedJimmyJay - Paladin
gwilikers6 - Monk - Monked TSP
Dragon D. Luffy - Myrmidon 2
nutella - Pegasus Knight 1
TonyStarkPrime - Shaman - Revealed General Ring
DrWilgy - Pirate
Epignosis - Troubadour
sig - Wyvern Rider
rundontwalk - Cavalier 1
MacDougall - Fighter 1 - Blocked Nutella
rabbit8 - Pegasus Knight 2
sprityo - Cleric
colonialbob - Mercenary
Long Con - Pegasus Knight 3
Kites - Archer
Dr. White - Nomad
Marmot - Cavalier 2
Iron_Dwarf - Knight

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:46 am
gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:38 am **** ****** ******* Ring

This was TonyStark’s PM last night. Which lines up perfectly with what happened. If he was scum he probably would have had some other power, but then again it may be a passive one.
Lol. I targeted Tony too. He IDs from Goodguyia.

TonyStarkPrime, please explain why you claimed to be from Badguyia.

Best guess you got MDed

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:03 am Epi's exercise disappointingly resulted in pretty much exactly what I was expecting, and I'm extrapolating nothing from it.

Yeah it was really sad. I’m still working on something cool with it but I have other stuff to do and it’s more helpful when one person is dead.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:18 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:16 am
rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:41 pm TonyParker, lol. tonyStarkPrime.

@TonyStarkPrime @gwilikers6

Why do you want Wyvern Rider to join Rico?
Right now Wyvern raider is on the bad guys team. I don’t know if that means anything, but if it does, I’d rather have the Wyvern Rider on the good guys team.
do you think sig is bad? that's the real question.

No

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:41 pm TonyParker, lol. tonyStarkPrime.

@TonyStarkPrime @gwilikers6

Why do you want Wyvern Rider to join Rico?

Right now Wyvern raider is on the bad guys team. I don’t know if that means anything, but if it does, I’d rather have the Wyvern Rider on the good guys team.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:28 am Prince Rico's Army of Goodguyia
Ricochet - Lord
JaggedJimmyJay - Paladin
rundontwalk - Cavalier 1
Marmot - Cavalier 2

Not Princess Epi's Lovable Trio of Adventuring
Epignosis - Troubadour
MacDougall - Fighter 1
sprityo - Cleric

Recruitable Players
ColinIsCool - Fighter 2
dunya - Thief 1
Kenway - Mage
Kylemii - Sage
Quin - Myrmidon 1
gwilikers6 - Monk
Dragon D. Luffy - Myrmidon 2
nutella - Pegasus Knight 1
TonyStarkPrime - Shaman
DrWilgy - Pirate
rabbit8 - Pegasus Knight 2
colonialbob - Mercenary
Long Con - Pegasus Knight 3
Kites - Archer
Dr. White - Nomad
Iron_Dwarf - Knight

Replacement Units that Show Up In the Final Chapters
Sloonei - Lord
Speedchuck - Waifu Lord

The Evil Army of Badguyia
Five Finger General Thumb
Five Finger General Pointer
Five Finger General Middle
Five Finger General Ring
Five Finger General Pinky
lapluie - Thief 2
sig - Wyvern Rider

Dead roles
Spoiler: show
Nobody yet

Isos
Spoiler: show
ColinIsCool
colonialbob
Dragon D. Luffy
Dr. White
DrWilgy
dunya
Epignosis
gwilikers6
Iron_Dwarf
JaggedJimmyJay
Kenway
Kites
Kylemii
lapluie
Long Con
MacDougall
Marmot
nutella
Quin
rabbit8
rundontwalk
sig
sprityo
TonyStarkPrime

Anyone have some thoughts on the new additions?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:22 am @TonyStarkPrime reads?

Dunya Town
JJJ scum
Epi ???
Colin null
Kyle Mafia but I can’t explain it
DDL maybe scum
Missing players scum
Nutella Town
Quin town
Kenway town
LongCon scumish

gwilikers6 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:46 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:34 am Is there a potential civ reason for Epi lying about having a lynch switch?
Honestly, I’d there a plausible scum reason for Epi claiming to have a lynch switch on day one?

Is there a plausible reason for Epi?

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