The Syndicate

Finally!

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:57 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:55 pm I feel like baddie MP would have tried a lot harder to pocket me. I'm not comfortable with his lynch at this time.

You said you suspect DDL, what other reads do you have?

That at least one of you, DDL and Quin are bad. I'm not 100% on which one right now, but my gut leans DDL.

That I'm still trying to sort dunya and this is the first time I've played with her. Right now I can't decide if we just think so differently that I can't relate to her views and it makes her look suspicious to me, or she is actually suspicious. I want more time to decide.

That Wilgy is probably civ.
The LC is probably civ.
That if my gut is right about DDL then I think sig is likely civ as well. If I am wrong about DDL, he is a question mark for me.
NT is absent, no read.
Kyle, I am unsure. I feel like he's just trying to get back into the mafia groove, I lean civ, but I'm pretty unsure there.

I am caught in linki hell right now... I've tried to post this for the last five minutes unsuccessfully.

I feel like baddie MP would have tried a lot harder to pocket me. I'm not comfortable with his lynch at this time.

My gut still says DDL. When I read his ISO one of the things I noticed was that early on he was pushing other people for reads when he himself had not provided any. Additionally, his back pedalling on Sig and now his treatment of the Quin/MP situation. I feel like he is hedging. I'm voting DDL.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:44 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:34 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm
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I am in your red with no explanation that i have seen.

Is this really true? I find that hard to believe coming from dunya.

yep. fourth suspect, is not really an issue to be addressed on day 1. I felt if MP was civ, Daisy would be scum and vice versa. She hasn't contributed much in way of actual scumspects and thoughts beyond game mechanics so....she's a fourth.

Fair enough. I'm not scum, but whatever man.

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:09 pm
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I am in your red with no explanation that i have seen.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:01 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:23 pm 1. MP pressure voting me is a fucking joke. It's one thing for someone to pressure vote jevwho doesn't live in the same house as me, but cone on. You know I'm not even caught up to the thread, it's not like I'm lurking and hiding. It's a joke, and really easy. Don't get me wrong, it's not definitely suspicious it's just teally easy to look like he's doing something when he's not. Don't let him get away with such a soft pressure vote in the future without questioning it.

I'm pretty sure he did the same thing in a recent game and he was a civ.

Or you did it to him.

Not sure, I just recall you both voting for each other.

Yes he did this recently and it elicited a very strong suspicious response from me. Not because of the vote but because he specifically at that time said quiet daisy makes me nervous, when he knew perfectly well I hadn't had time to be in the thread. So the fact i was quiet shouldn't have been scary in any way. But his response to my very strong reaction to his post read civ to me and I moved my vote off him and didn't suspect him after that.

This is a different situation. I am not saying I suspect him. He did not say I made him nervous. I just think it was a lazy and easy vote. I don't suspect him for it, but I don't trust him either. I have no read on him yet. I jsut think in future games when he makes this move, you all should be asking him why. It will not move me for him to vote for me. So it's stupid and useless. So I can only wonder if he is doing it because of how it looks to everyone else, rather than for what he claims he is doing. Because I didn't come in here because of his vote, and I didn't post as a result of his vote either.

I'm finishing my ISO on DDL right now

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:39 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:26 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:01 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:48 pm If that's the norm for The Syndicate, then fine, but I don't have to like it--indeed I don't.

I would not call it the norm for The Syndicate. In fact people are split in it here because culture began in a strict no role claiming no info
Dumping rule set.

I find it difficult to see why you can't at leDy acknowledge there are pros to fake claims from civs. They can and have won games for civilians. But as with any strategy there are risks inherent. I can acknowledgethat. Can you not see the advantages that they provide as well?

I am not telling people to fake role claim. I don't feel the need to tell others how to play. But I am disagreeing with this assertion that fake role claims are bad. And I can both believe fake role claims are good and that people should build cases. There is room for both.

are you saying my opinion is wrong?

I'm just saying I feel like you are looking at the negatives and dismissing any positives. And they are there. But we could probably move this conversation to somewhere in the lounge since it's really a discussion of theory. Also I read my
Post again and felt it was kind of condescending and I didn't intend it as such. I said I didn't feel the need to tell others how to play, all i meant was I was not discussing what we should be doing, just a theory basically. Does that make sense?

Yes ma'am, perfect sense. It will be our first time to agree to disagree on this point. Still got mad love for ya.

Right back at ya!

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:01 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:48 pm If that's the norm for The Syndicate, then fine, but I don't have to like it--indeed I don't.

I would not call it the norm for The Syndicate. In fact people are split in it here because culture began in a strict no role claiming no info
Dumping rule set.

I find it difficult to see why you can't at leDy acknowledge there are pros to fake claims from civs. They can and have won games for civilians. But as with any strategy there are risks inherent. I can acknowledgethat. Can you not see the advantages that they provide as well?

I am not telling people to fake role claim. I don't feel the need to tell others how to play. But I am disagreeing with this assertion that fake role claims are bad. And I can both believe fake role claims are good and that people should build cases. There is room for both.

are you saying my opinion is wrong?

I'm just saying I feel like you are looking at the negatives and dismissing any positives. And they are there. But we could probably move this conversation to somewhere in the lounge since it's really a discussion of theory. Also I read my
Post again and felt it was kind of condescending and I didn't intend it as such. I said I didn't feel the need to tell others how to play, all i meant was I was not discussing what we should be doing, just a theory basically. Does that make sense?

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:48 pm If that's the norm for The Syndicate, then fine, but I don't have to like it--indeed I don't.

I would not call it the norm for The Syndicate. In fact people are split in it here because culture began in a strict no role claiming no info
Dumping rule set.

I find it difficult to see why you can't at leDy acknowledge there are pros to fake claims from civs. They can and have won games for civilians. But as with any strategy there are risks inherent. I can acknowledgethat. Can you not see the advantages that they provide as well?

I am not telling people to fake role claim. I don't feel the need to tell others how to play. But I am disagreeing with this assertion that fake role claims are bad. And I can both believe fake role claims are good and that people should build cases. There is room for both.

dunya wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:42 pm ~my experience---- in games dunya has played in~

This just really surprises me.

Wow don't pay attention to my typos. I'm posting from a phone.

Look here y'all, I'm going to a concert tonight so don't expect too much of me.ive read and caught up to now and I have like three or four things to say.

1. MP pressure voting me is a fucking joke. It's one thing for someone to pressure vote jevwho doesn't live in the same house as me, but cone on. You know I'm not even caught up to the thread, it's not like I'm lurking and hiding. It's a joke, and really easy. Don't get me wrong, it's not definitely suspicious it's just teally easy to look like he's doing something when he's not. Don't let him get away with such a soft pressure vote in the future without questioning it.

2. Fake claiming when done properly absolutely can and has won the civs games. Arrested Development cones to mind, when Turnip Head and MP fake claimed and provided me cover as the cop for two nights, allowing me to find them and out them. Even in Seinfeld I was night killed night 1 because the baddies thought I was role claiming. I wasn't, but it's better to lose a vanilla than a power role N1. Additionally, seeing who the baddies kill based on their fake claims can also help us sort who be good a la seer hunt clear. Fake cop claims can be a great tool for the civs when done right.

3. Dunya, you come from RYM I thought you guys used this type of thing over there even more here. And having heard how great your civ game and instinct is, you arguing so solidly against fake claims not only surprises me but makes me suspect you.

4. My guy says DDL bad. I can't put my finger on why, but in my read my gut spoke and I am sharing it because I usually regret it later. I'll look into an ISO of him tomorrow to see if I can identify why.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:50 pm Tequila really sucks 4/10 wouldn't recommend.

Second Hey! Lets get this lynch train started.

I think we should eye people who are to heavy on the role play, it could be used to avoid scumhunting/be left alive out of amusement. However, that shouldn't be the only reason to lynch someone.

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