The Syndicate

I'll be making winners banners when my in laws go home so it might be another week, week and a half or so. Sorry for the delay folks!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Anyway, awesome game. I still remain not ever having seen civilians win a game in this site, with this being the fourth game I play.

Yeah but it came down to the wire here, had just one or two minor things gone differently we might have won. So it seems to have been balanced. We just aren't as adept civs here I guess, lol.

I was told what role I was gathered by, but I was not told which player gathered me. But when I got removed from a group after someone died it was pretty clear why.

I knew he was Charlie since I was gathered by him and when he died I was no longer in a party. I also knew Wilgy was Olimar and that one of DDL K4J or Glorf was Brittney the same sort of way. I was in each of their parties at one point or another.

Linki @ Epi: I was trying to say you already said I thread what my role was, without blatantly role outing. And I knew Boom was good by his posts, it just clearly read civ Boomslang to me.

Well played FZ, well deserved win. And it's the first MP I have not won, lol.

Dammit. Dammit. Dammit.

Should have trusted your alcohol induced frustration Epi.

Why did you have BTSC Epi?

I am not bad and if you are civ you would probably be handing the game away to the baddies if you were to vote me.

Alex, if The last baddie remaining were unable to win with their faction would that end the game?

frankly, I don't care about your opinion of me, I'm not out to win you trust. I'm trying to figure out who I should not be trusting. And didn't Alex's answer make it pretty clear that while that was his original intention he has gone easy on the participation, in other words he has allowed team PMs after all...

Ok so I was wrong in my reasoning, but apparently perhaps correct by accident?

If you were sitting in my living room hearing me rant to my husband about how I will kill Epi the next time I have a NK ability if he is bad and has fooled me into thinking he is civ, you would realize it sounds like someone who is seriously worried that someone she has trusted the who.e game may have just pulled the wool over her eyes.

Epi I think you are wrong, read the boss roles, at one point he says in the snagrat description that if this role chooses to carry out the boss kill...

A team kill is not the same as a role ability.

It makes sense if Simon is the Phisbat and the team was allowed to have anyone send in their kill and specify who is carrying it out. In that case Simon would not have used his particular ability but could have still had his boss character carry out the kill.

Holy shit. so the Phosbat is still out there...

You did

Epi I swear I am going to kill you if you have fooled me.

Crap, I know this hinges on my choice and I'm afraid to trust anyone. I'm going to bite the bullet and vote MM

No I really am trying to figure out who is bad.

Epignosis wrote:If I'm right about everything else in my spreadsheet, FZ. has to be the lone Mafia.

I realize that comes out of left field.

Oh really Epi?

Epignosis wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:FZ: Yeah well I felt the same thing about you and him and only slightly less confident about MM. Now here we are.

Linki @ Epi: real life took precedence, it is what it is. And I am good. You know that.

I don't know that. If I did, I would vote MM and be done with it.

So you now feel like FZ is civ?

FZ: Yeah well I felt the same thing about you and him and only slightly less confident about MM. Now here we are.

Linki @ Epi: real life took precedence, it is what it is. And I am good. You know that.

FZ, what are your feelings on epi

The worst part of this is that outside of Simon I have felt like you three were the ones I suspected the least. Now I am in end game and I feel certain that at least one of you has fooled me.

Also, there is the possibility of there actually being 2 baddies remaining, if I'm not mistaken. I'm a little concerned by Epi driving the direction of this conversation and feeling really tin foil at the moment. I don't trust any of you.

Linki: Epi said it, not me. I was saying if this was true you should be lynched.

If MM actually is implying he is Charlie then without question he should be lynched because I am confident this is false.

FZ. wrote:Spacedaisy, why didn't you vote last day?

Because I got wrapped up in work and preparing for my I laws to visit and missed the poll end.

No, I'm open to the possibility of being wrong there, mostly gut

Fair enough Epi, thanks for you input.

Typhoony wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote: LOL you guys think me way more capable of being a clever and manipulative baddie than I really am. Intentionally making a mistake in thread is not something I have ever even thought of, let alone tried.

That's just the thing a baddie would say :P

Can you elaborate on your suspicion of agleaminranks?

It's also something a civ who had never considered doing something like that would say.

Lol, my suspicion of gleam is because he suspects me because I'm "too good" which is the strangest reason I've ever heard.

Epi, what are your current thoughts on Simon? I'm concerned by the fact that once the storm blew over from the first couple days we have heard nothing from him at all. It worries me that he might be trying to avoid making anymore mistakes and letting his teammates take the lead. Where do you stand on Simon now?

Typhoony wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.

May I ask why you thought this?
Are you the type of person who would make mistakes in the thread on purpose to make it seem like you are not bad? ("Woops I totally forgot Wilgy was dead")

Agleam: I went after Boomslang as well. Why are Epi and MM bad but not me? Why is Epi bad for going after Boomslang in the first place?

LOL you guys think me way more capable of being a clever and manipulative baddie than I really am. Intentionally making a mistake in thread is not something I have ever even thought of, let alone tried.

You can ask, yes. But I won't answer. There was a specific reason I didn't weigh in on Wilgy, apparently I did such a good job avoiding it that I forgot about it, lol. Not only do I feel like it would be rule breaking to reveal why, but it wouldn't be helpful to the civs and more specifically to myself.

@ Metalmarsh

No, I DID NOT suspect you. I have never said I suspected you. Not even once this game. But of all the people who already had votes, you were the one I was least confident of my town read on them. I wasn't going to vote on someone who had no votes, I felt very confident boomslang wasn't bad and the same about FZ, that left you.

I am not bad, and if you are civ Epi, then I recommend you look elsewhere because you don't want to lynch me. If you are bad then by all means pursue a Daisy lynch, I just hope no one is foolhardy enough to follow you.

I don't understand your point. I forgot he was the one killed in the last night post put up. And when I remembered that (sadly only after MP busted up laughing at me) I recalled why I had not weighed in on him or suspected him, and why I thought it particularly bad that he had died.

Yes not remembering.

Derp, my husband just laughed at me for not remembering wilgy was dead, which reminds me why I didn't suspect him, I'm pretty sure his death was really bad news for us civs.

Typh, I looked back over your posts and while I wouldn't say I trust you, I feel more suspicious of Simon and gleam.

Epi, I really really did not think Boomslang's post read bad at all. I trust FZ more than probably anyone, if she is bad she has me hoodwinked pretty well, because I just don't think she is. Though I didn't really suspect you all that much of all the options currently with votes you were the one I felt least sure of. Throwing a vote anywhere else was a waste, so I chose you. I have no intention of voting you today unless something drastic happens to change my mind. I would really like to see some other options.

I have heard people bringing up Dr. wilgy, I'll admit he has not registered with me at all, which is worrisome in itself.

Look at his interaction with Epi after a rock pikmin was targeted. I think this lynch was a move to get rid of someone they can't kill and at least one or two baddies can be found in that lynch train.

Yeah, that's about what I expected.

I honestly don't think any of the three are bad. I think the fact Simon has fallen off the face of the Pikmin planet makes me think he is trying to avoid making any more mistakes that might endanger his team.

Typhoony, you laid low most of the game and now you are swinging for the fences it seems. I think you are bad and you are playing for end game now that we've decimated each other.

You two would be my top two choices to lynch, gleam would be third.

I don't think Boom is bad either. I feel most confident tha FZ is civ. I feel least confident that Epi is. Boom's post read like natural frustration with Epi to me, I don't see baddie intent in his posts.

If this lynch were different I would feel way more comfortable with one of the following three being on the chopping block:

Typhoony
Gleam
Simon

At the moment that is my short list.

Looking at this poll I'm concerned. I'm thinking this is one of two scenarios and neither one bodes well for us. Either one of us who has 1 vote is bad and there are baddies trying to vote Boom to ensure their teammate is safe or all of us getting votes right now are civ. I really don't feel baddie vibes from any of these lynch candidates and I know I'm not bad.

I feel more confident in Boom's innocence than Epi's I guess. I am voting Epi.

This is a tough lynch. Ugh.

agleaminranks wrote:EBWOP: Meant to say that my suspicions are between Wilgy and Spacedaisy, but Wilgy has been almost too absent this whole game to really do anything. Daisy has only really been absent in this string of recent accusations, which seems like a baddie tactic to hide amongst quibblings.

You suspect me because I'm too good... Wow

I'm civ. I have been absent in both this game and Star Wars because work sidetracked me yesterday. Which I mentioned there too.

Being part of the Matt train, I can understand being suspected, but I'm not bad and lynching me would be a tactical mistake.

I don't think Epi is bad. I don't think MM is bad.i don't think FZ is bad. who is even still alive right now? I need to read through...

Ok, that's a reasonable answer. Your vote is interesting. You Ate saying there seems to be a wagon don't on but instead of voting somewhere that makes a difference you are throwing your vote off.

Oh! I've never seen anyone order it like that before, but I see now. That doesn't explain why I dropped down in your town read radar.

Also, if you are civ, why do you put DDL as your top civ read. You are more sure of him than you Ate of yourself?

Glorfindel, not that long ago you were saying I add your most town read, what has changed to stop me down to nearly off the list entirely? I'm not the bottom of your town lean reads. I'm curious about this as well as the fact that Matt went from suspecting you to telling people to follow your vote... That is not normal. It makes me think he was either distancing from you before or budding up to you now.

I'm here, but only for a minute. I think it just happens to be a bad time for others is all fz. And fwiw, I have agreed with your opinions almost entirely except for your feelings on Simon. I'm with you, I'm voting Matt.