The Syndicate

I got aapje first

I really enjoyed the game BR and LC. It was really fun and engaged me well, which not all games can do. Thank you for all the work I'm sure you put into it. I really appreciate the experience you provided us with as players.

S~V~S wrote:I have to say, when I look back on it, to those on Ahriman & Azura, that aapje really did not actively work against you, even at the end.

Last night it was just he & I in the chat, trying to decide what to do. He did not steer the discussion. He had me talk it out, basically, and would not decide himself about what we would do with the rezz & switch. He let me decide. I actively tried, actually, to get him to decide because I was feeling unsure of myself, I knew we were using up our secret resource and I did not want to mess it up. But he made ME decide. And it probably was not the only time.

So, in his own treacherous fashion, he did the right thing by you.

I have no complaints about aapje, I don't feel betrayed by him. My comment about imbalance is not out of sore loser feelings. And I don't begrudge anyone their win, we all played hard and well. My comment is because there is in my opinion imbalance in this game that seriously handicapped civs. I doubt we could have won no matter what. But this isn't said in anger or whatever just honest commentary. I still played hard and had a ton of fun, so I am not being bitter or just complaining because we lost. And it is not because I thought we could win, I thought in all honesty we didn't stand a chance and I said as much in my chat. I am not surprised by losing, although I saw some glimmer of slight possibility there at the end. But it was fool's gold.

I also have no complaint about how MM used his Rez. He played it well.

You guys played well, I think everyone did.

Where did the SVS Rez come from?

Ahriman, Grand Master - Spacedaisy
-- What was your epic challenge?

my role:
Ahriman, Grand Master (male) - Clan - Brotherhood of the Inner Eye
Position 1: Redirect Night powers (used against him)
Position 2: Immune to NK/Lynch
Position 3: Choose 5 people to block
Position 4: Kill
Position 5: Votes worth 3

Epic Challenge: Survive a NK attempt on your life and break a tie on a baddie you will gain the ability to call out to Brotherhood players to use their powers a certain way, you will also be immune to negative effects by Brotherhood players.:

-- Whose power did you reduce (?) on N1? I redirected what was targeted at me, which was a lock and I redirected it to MP.

-- Whose vote did you triple on N2? I didn't have the option to triple, my vote was worth three.

-- Whose vote did you triple on N6? See above.

-- Whose power did you reduce (?) on N8? No one targeted me so I couldn't redirect anyone.

-- [You targeted Boomslang with a kill on N9 and it failed, I wonder why] No idea.

-- Whose vote did you triple on N11? See above

-- You survived a kill on N12, how? I blocked the Brutal Executioner.

-- Who did you block on D/N12? Devin, MM, Canuck, Llama, Rey

Bullzeye wrote:I can confirm Canuck also won 5 votes from her challenge, we put them onto Llama during the day where votes for him would go to someone else. If only we'd chosen someone lynchable rather than Daisy!

I was trying to bait it, I knew the lynch would be switched and I wanted to try to bait it so my teammates would be safe. I actually a little surprised it worked. Did aapje have any influence in that decision?

I'm not going to lie, I'm feeling really burned right now. Seeing everything going on makes me realize I really never had a chance to win this game from the start. There were some balance issues here. But I did enjoy the game despite that. So thanks for your hard work BR and LC.

aapje wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:I've been on to him for a while now, just couldn't be sure enough to get rid of him.

Night 12 I guess?

Nope, back when you suggested Jay might have been turned. People almost always talk about their own role subconsciously and there was no reason to believe there was a chance for someone to be turned. Then Jay died. Then as time went on it was increasingly more likely since you had not been targeted. The attempt to change my blocks was the biggest confirmation. But before that even I had already discussed it with Sorsha in PM with some things we could use if we kept the info from you, but we did not get in the right position for it.

I've been on to him for a while now, just couldn't be sure enough to get rid of him.

I knew it aapje.

thellama73 wrote:

bea wrote:I'm voting llama. I think anyone who is not forced to vote otherwise and not on llama's team should do the same. We can't not at least TRY to take out the known baddie.

vote llama

Except I'm not bad. Don't drink the kool-aid.

You can drop the pretense, you're not fooling anyone. A for Effort though.

Oh MM, I was holding out hope for you. That's a shame.

If you don't believe me, or don't agree with my assessment or want to lynch a sure thing baddie instead, then vote llama. It could be a telling lynch.

Did it

I don't share all my thoughts at once. Only when I think the time is right. And to be fair I have him narrowed down to one of three.

That question was to bullz.

Devin, I think the best you can hope for is a tie.

Frankly I'm fine with either of you being lynched because I think you are both bad.

I would guess they have control of between five to seven votes this lynch, depending on how many of their team is left. How did you come to the number seven?

I expect that by the end of the day he will not have even near seven votes. It's a waste of my time.

Perhaps I was unclear, i don't think llama will be lynched today. I don't think it is possible numbers wise.

Not so fast. I doubt llama can be lynched today. I have a suspicion that Devin is the Brutal Executioner. I think he would be the better option. Get rid of a kill.

Whatever you want to do is fine with me BR. I don't mind waiting if need be and I don't mind just having a results post either.

Can we put that to a vote? I would be hard pressed with 24 hour days personally.

I think he hoped by voting the force vote instead of the immunity position it would be less obvious. And yes he has been on the lynch block for a while, he knows it is his biggest threat. I am not saying everyone who voted five is Azura, don't misunderstand me. I think llama voted it because he is Azura.

Linki: I don't know if he is or not, but they would want some control over the lynch if he isn't.

I'm fairly certain there are at least three still on the Azura team, maybe four. Force voting three people clinches the next vote for them.

Spacedaisy wrote:That figures, Azura can force vote three people in position five.

EBWOP

That figures, Azura can force vote three people in position three.

Another person I would consider voting is Devin.

What position did llama vote? The poll is gone

I still think a Llama lynch might be best tomorrow all things considered since I think bullz may have just made himself immune.

Lol, I needed to be sure man. Unlike you I do have a dog in this fight.

Bullz is either Uz or on team Uz, not me. He would be a worthwhile lynch.

Yep.

I voted 2

Very true.

But you wouldn't be my first vote since we have some sure fire options on the table

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:Of course it wouldn't have mattered. Position 2 always results in a switched lynch, if Uz is alive, it always will.

I would have been more interested in switching from voting llama if not for the fact that I don't trust mm or Devin. Bea seems ok to me though, despite her vote.

Not just then, but before.

Ok, I see. You are saying they were two separate responses to two separate posts. In one post.

Fair enough. I still think you are bad.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:Then what does my pointing out you voted for a very good position for Uz have to do with my near lynch? Nothing. So what was your point?

You suggested that I am Uz. You thought Uz was going to switch the lynch (at least I think you did). I am telling you that I am not Uzbergajan, but that I'm certain llama did the "switching" in a different sense of the word.

I said nothing about the lynch switch in my post. All I did was point out who has the chance to protect someone in position five; Uz.

You responded by saying, I'm not Uz. Llama switched the lynch.

"Don't look here guys, look at llama!"

Then what does my pointing out you voted for a very good position for Uz have to do with my near lynch? Nothing. So what was your point?

Then you think he is Uz eh? Yet you just called him Azura.

Uz position 5: Heal/Protect

Yes it will

Only if he isn't in a position with immunity.

bea wrote:Good job not dying daisy!

Lol, I figured I would get a non answer

This poll is different hosts, are we going to each be in our own position or what?

Of course it wouldn't have mattered. Position 2 always results in a switched lynch, if Uz is alive, it always will.

I would have been more interested in switching from voting llama if not for the fact that I don't trust mm or Devin. Bea seems ok to me though, despite her vote.

whatever

TH, plan on voting?

Sorsha wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:Bea and Sorsha, are either of you considering increasingly likely possibility that llama is Azura, and that the lynch will kill someone else?

Is ubzargan dead? Won't the lynch get switched if bullz is ubz/ or on his team?

This. I think lynches in position 2 are pointless unless Uz is dead. I'm leaving my vote on llama.

I see you chose not to act last night Rey.

I'd be ok with a bullz lynch too actually. Though I am willing to entertain other ideas. For the moment I'm leaving my vote on llama though.

So are we putting the hold on llama lynch?