The Syndicate

Oh yeah!i totally thought you werecivQuin. Well played"

Hippie = hope
Ppps = pretty much

I voted llama for MVP. And Epi for role play, hippie you don't mind me saying that here. I kinda want to pull for these two. If they hadn't ppps much talked everyone into lynching nero instead of me or bullz, we would not have won.

I knew you were bad Epi. You know why? You didn't once suspect me. Come on man, you can call me as bad better than anyone else, so I knew you were off.

Well, I'm going ahead and voting Nero, because I feel like Epi has made the most sense to me, so the fact Nero advocates him as a lynch candidate seems questionable to me.

I think I don't understand it. There are five players left and still three kills. It's also interesting that twice kills have been double targets of someone who would survive just one kill. The idea that it's a game mechanic is a thought to consider.

Hosts, will we be told if a baddie team is eliminated?

Why do you want to lynch me today? Aside from the obvious reason of not wanting to be lynched yourself?

Well, it looks like it falls to me to break a tie. I've been in and out reading but between work and other stuff have not had a chance to reply.

I'm with llama and Epi regarding the voting record and posts from confirmed baddies seeming to more support a Nero lynch than a Bullz lynch.

I am headed to a play with MP, I will answer the questions posed of me once I get back, I promise.

Voting Nero.

Epignosis wrote:

sig wrote:Okay so some quick thoughts before the night ends. Right know I'm reading Llama as a civ he shouldn't be lynched. After reading everything over Bull's does look better though I still dislike his votes. He isn't a good lynch candidate. I've got a slight ping on Sorsha for her vote, but besides that she is null. A few pings from Nero, but not enough to lynch on keep I'll keep my eye on him.
Wilgy is a slight civ lean, again I wouldn't lynch him today.
I've got a slight mafia ping on Quin. Today I'd like to lynch either Epi or SD as I believe one or more likely both of them are mafia members.

Wow sig. Thank you for this enlightening lega-

Oh. You were bad.

No, to Wilgy

You last post was unclear. Who are you talking about? Epi or Nero? My vote is placed on the person I believe is bad, so that is how I am helping to lynch a baddie. Unless you have info I do not. I don't know that either are bad and in fact I lean civ on Epi atm. Why would I contribute tolynch of someone I am less convinced is bad?

I find you difficult to read and you give me all kinds of pings. I was hoping my mind would be changed on you but so far it is not.

To explain why I'm not voting for Epi, he almost already will break ties. It doesn't say anything about his alignment in my opinion.

And I just don't know nero.

I'm putting my vote on G-Man. I doubt both he and llama are civ and I feel more confident that llama is civ than g-man. I will be around off and on, I'm at work. We will see if I leave my vote there.

But at least one or two other people had him down as good. Those two things together made me nervous that I was missing something other people were picking up.

Quin, I don't know what you mean about taking it so seriously. It wasn't that I was taking it that seriously, it was simply that everyone was talking about wilgy claiming doctor and seemed to be generally feeling good about him, so I got nervous about my own generally bad vibes from him maybe being wrong and backed off.

I'm really surprised by the people saying I haven't been contributing my own thoughts or suspicions. I feel like there is group thinking going on that I don't like. I would encourage price to evaluate my posts for themselves because I absolutely have been bringing my own thoughts into it. Sig I get you find it suspect that I get defensive, but how would you react if someone came in and painted you as bad based on something untrue. Wouldn't you get a bit defensive too?

G-Man wrote:Finishing up ISO's on those players I did not get to yesterday:

Spacedaisy was similarly absent for most of D1 until the deadline approached. She blames prep work on her upcoming game to justify her absence. She did give us one substantial post that can be picked apart. She changed her vote to me because Wilgy's claim made her nervous. During N1 she commented on other posts, giving no concrete personal thoughts. She's another one that I am concerned about hiding behind a smokescreen.

This is questionable recapping. While I was largely absent Day 0 and 1, I did participate as much as I was able and gave my own solid reasons for my votes and my thoughts on various people. Then in N1 I became much more vocal with my "personal thoughts" basically discussing my concerns about the fact you and Llama were both appearing to claim the same role ability. I became more active because we got most of the leg work done on the game, now we are just waiting to fill it. There is no smokescreen.

Did I miss how Epi already ended up with 2 votes?

I was thinking about the SVS kill last night and I realized something. I fully believe her interaction with llama was her being genuinely upset about something he said. If she had BTSC with him I think that interaction was more likely to take place there than in thread, so I think I've changed my mind on llama.

DrWilgy wrote:Final call for the great WHO IS MY TEMMIE game!!
DrWilgy: Sig
Sig: Sloonei
Sloonei: DrWilgy

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And no one played...

Fine, you want an answer, right now I would say I'm a baddie and my teammate is llama

Two people of the same alignment? That seems highly unusual to me. When designing games I usually try to balance powers, if there are going to be duplicates of a power they are usually on opposing sides.

Llama may be lying about his lynch proof ability, but why would a civ lie about that? It would most likely invite being NKed since they can't get him lynched. If he is lying about it, it would only serve to get G-Man lynched. Why would a civ do that? Unless he knows G-Man is bad, I can't see a good reason for it. Now a baddie, yes. I could see a baddie lying about it. I think most likely one of these two is bad.

Uh, point to consider, G-Man survived a lynch and llama is claiming to have the same ability as g-Man. It seems unlikely to me that they would have the same role ability and the same alignment.

Ok then

And Wilgy, I don't understand the point of your game? If you are asking me who I think is bad, ask me that. But asking me to say if I were bad my teammate would be... Makes no sense. The only purpose I can see is to spread some kind of disinformation in the case that a baddie plays your game and then gets lynched. No information from a confirmed baddie can really be trusted so what good will it do us to play this game? I'm not getting it.

Changed my vote to g-man. Partly out of self preservation but also because this talk about Wilgy role claiming has made me nervous.

I must have missed Wilgy role claiming doctor. When did this happen?

I am struggling with where to put my vote, there are a lot of little suspicions running around the thread and I don't really know what I am feeling about all of it because I've only been half here mentally. So I'm just going to list my thoughts and see if it helps me sort it out in my own mind.

1. I'm surprised by Bullz random vote especially with so much suspicion being tossed around.

2. I don't understand why llama got so much heat about his rainbow list. Who cares? He basically listed a Day1 GTH list of everyone to gauge his own gut feelings on everyone. I'm ok with that, so I don't see why this is a big deal. Plus, I haven't felt any baddie vibes from llama really, so yeah...

3. Sorsha's vote also does not strike me as that odd, maybe because I'm one who would do the same sort of thing. It makes perfect sense to me to vote the same way as the person you feel like you can trust. Just not seeing the big deal here either.

4. Wilgy, I wish I could read Wilgy, but I just have not played enough with him. One thing that I find kind of confusing is the game he presented. I don't see what the purpose would be except to possibly sow disinformation. I don't get it.

Ok, I'm glad I did this because I think it clarified things for me. I'm voting Wilgy because I just can't see a civ reason to play his game.

And posts more that last one are why I try not to post from my phone. it is super difficult sometimes. I frequently can't even see what I am typing, once I can see it I can't get the cursor in the right spot to fix it. Really annoying.

G-Man wrote:I am changing my vote because I've got bigger fish to fry. Spacedaisy has been AWOL and has contributed nothing of substance thus far. It may very well just be that I've forgotten how Spacedaisy plays. Something just seems wrong about her soft posts and general absence though.

Sorry, my general absence has to do with preparing a mafia game of my own. Lots of little fiddly bits to get lined up properly so we are ready to start.oMore than I expected actually. I think we have most of it ready now though. I actually had a past explaining this written up yest my lunch break at work but then my internet cut out and I didn't have time to wroteit all over again.

Ok this thread got weird

I would be surprised if it were just a straight and simple game honestly. That doesn't seem very like MM or Golden...

MP is a Leo, so my vote goes there.