The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:10 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:01 pm I liked the Owner stuff
Stuff from Owner or stuff about Owner? Which stuff?

Drago's stuff on Owner. I absolutely hate much of Owner's own stuff lol.

I could see his train of thoughts there. The way he stumbles through the post trying to explain the vibe he was getting feels genuine.

Soneji wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:52 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:35 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:10 pm You could say that, I'm very familiar with DDL mislynches and his tone in later posts have been good so I'm inclined to place that over the no lynch scumtell and not pursue his lynch today.
How do you feel about the other players currently receiving votes?
nova : I can see what those pushing him are and get a slight scum vibe from him.

Owner : Thought her case against you and the pre-flip association post I quoted were wack.

Epi : Thought he was really reaching with some of his FoS's, to the point they felt fake.

Ultra : They haven't gone as hard as I would normally expect from them, no particular scum vibes though.
You're having doubts about 2 of 3 voting me, yet "I can see what those pushing him are"?
Agreeing with their reasoning on you doesn't disqualify me from not liking their posts overall.

What is the reasoning you agree with?

What do you have on Mac, Jay?

I liked the Owner stuff

GTH Drago is civ

Civ DDL is the brasilian nutella, so the lack of reconsideration and development is weirding me out.

DDL is an interesting one. He doesn't seem to be budging at all. Main thing bugging me is that he isn't going past surface level and is content with "asked too many question. I haven't seen him talk about my stance and thoughts at all, nor what he disagrees with what is fake. I mean if I'm bad those must be fake.

When Mac prodded him about his case, he was mostly refusing to take anything into consideration and started to hide behind meta.Branded my civilian self as a hound dog, and he wasn't being hounded he called it a day lol.

Soneji wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:44 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:35 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:10 pm You could say that, I'm very familiar with DDL mislynches and his tone in later posts have been good so I'm inclined to place that over the no lynch scumtell and not pursue his lynch today.
How do you feel about the other players currently receiving votes?
nova : I can see what those pushing him are and get a slight scum vibe from him.

Owner : Thought her case against you and the pre-flip association post I quoted were wack.

Epi : Thought he was really reaching with some of his FoS's, to the point they felt fake.

Ultra : They haven't gone as hard as I would normally expect from them, no particular scum vibes though.

You're having doubts about 2 of 3 voting me, yet "I can see what those pushing him are"?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:40 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:19 pm All right, I'm back earlier than I expected
Whaddya think of Epi?

Bag of mixed feelings. His case on me is absolutely shite lol, but I don't know I could see civ Epi believing that. I'm getting playful Community Epi vibes rather than flooding the thread World Flag's Epi vibes. It's light.

One thing I hated though was his interaction with Gemma about his stance on you. He kept baiting and switching, basically avoiding giving his thoughts on your play this game so far.

All right, I'm back earlier than I expected

I should be here the final hour. I better see someone else leading the poll before I'm back. Preferably Ultra.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:30 pm I'll make a final call soon.

Where are you at on Ultra? I'm expecting more fire striking back especially after that "possibly you" about poo flinging D0.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:52 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:50 am
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:45 am Ultra is kind of guilty of exactly what he accused Jay of. I don't care much how he branded the vote saying it reeks of "chainsaw defense" before he actually delved into it. Feels like he's detached from the suspicions and he's following a textbook on how to play mafia and build cases lol.
Have you played with Ultra before? Are these the suspicions he has or the suspicions against him?
We've played once before, but we've crossed path a few times (player/host in each other's games). I'm referring to his suspicion of Jay.
Any chance you can quick link me to a post (or a few)

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:03 pm DDL taking opportunities to answer soft questions and discredit early effort before it exists. bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:01 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:02 am What is the point of D0 if we can't lynch anyone?
With this mindset you ensure that it cannot have a point. bad
Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.

By the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:40 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:56 pm Hmm... we dont have any information to work on yet, so we should probably no lynch d1.
[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine
[VOTE: Dragon D. Luffy] aubergine
This reeks of chainsaw defense.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:53 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm Eh. D0 isn't useless, but it does present a lot of opportunity to shade people over NAI.
Has anyone been shaded over NAI?
Possibly, by you.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pmBy the way, your powerpoint is unintentionally hilarious.
I'm going to choose to interpret that as being complimentary.

That's the spirit.

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pmThis reeks of chainsaw defense.

I don't know what that means.
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Defend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
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Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:09 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmPossibly, by you.
I don't need "possibly". What are you referring to?

Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:58 pmDefend someone by attacking their accuser.

Since you're here elaborate on that vote
I think DDL got snagged by a booby trap. No lynches are horrendous, and I thought it looked evident that speedchuck wasn't serious in his recommendation.
I think holding someone accountable for saying Day Zeros are less valuable is a bit pushy, especially considering they in fact are. Now, if someone was using "Wait, I said that D0, it doesn't count!" as a defense, or as a reason to dismiss a case, that is categorically scummy. But outside of that context, there's no apparent scum motive to stating the obvious, other than perhaps appearing blendy.

Reaction posts can also carry a scum motive, so this sounds like TMI on speedchuck

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:44 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:41 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:37 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
This is up the wrong tree at best.

Speed didn’t need Jay to defend Speed from something that a bunch of players would think makes DDL look bad and doesn’t make Speed look bad.
wat
THIS IS UP THE WRONG TREE AT BEST!

SPEED DIDN’T NEED JAY TO DEFEND SPEED FROM SOMETHING THAT A BUNCH OF PLAYERS WOULD THINK MAKES DDL LOOK BAD AND DOESN’T MAKE SPEED LOOK BAD!
Still don't quite understand, but I think you misinterpreted my vote so I'll elaborate again. JJJ made an opportunistic vote by voting a player who appeared to make a "bad vote". If speed is town, this is fairly wolfy, as otherwise he would not be so confident that the vote was bad.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:47 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:45 am Ultra is kind of guilty of exactly what he accused Jay of. I don't care much how he branded the vote saying it reeks of "chainsaw defense" before he actually delved into it. Feels like he's detached from the suspicions and he's following a textbook on how to play mafia and build cases lol.
Have you played with Ultra before? Are these the suspicions he has or the suspicions against him?

We've played once before, but we've crossed path a few times (player/host in each other's games). I'm referring to his suspicion of Jay.

Ultra is kind of guilty of exactly what he accused Jay of. I don't care much how he branded the vote saying it reeks of "chainsaw defense" before he actually delved into it. Feels like he's detached from the suspicions and he's following a textbook on how to play mafia and build cases lol.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:12 am
Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:33 am i hope jjj doesn't post more than 8 times before eod because i won't have a chance to reclaim my status as topposter if he does and that would be very sad
How do you see number of posts???

How am i even supposed to iso outside of that search box at the top where i input things randomly and hope to get the results Im looking for

There is an ISO function underneath everyone's avatar (under the profile details).

Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:52 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:39 am
Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:14 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:03 am
Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:44 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:21 am I hate her post about the Ultra case.
i dislike that she skirted around commenting on the ultra read, but i don't really have a problem with her saying that you're not a wolf with ultra.
The compatibility analysis is fair, but I don't think it belongs there at the time with her not even voting me yet, let alone having seen me flip.

I just don't see what was the purpose of the post, since she's not agreeing/disagreeing with the case on Ultra nor having a problem with me backing Speed on it. The "not sure I care about this post" is absolutely ridiculous in this context lol.

Feels like a way to shade someone for absolutely no reason and kind of force direct interaction preparing for a vote. She ended up doing the latter.
i don't really get it either but there's a lot that has happened this game that i don't get, lol

what do you mean by force direct interaction
A faked ping to substantiate the read and the whole process.

I can't find another explanation for that quote and subtle shade lol.
why can't she just be town pointing out something randomly?

The implied shade with a surface level comment. She isn't digging deeper and actually commenting on the Ultra thing to figure me out, if I'm genuine or not, nor give her own opinion of him and the beef against him.

Wait a minute, I still see it

All right, I'll stop.

Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:14 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 6:03 am
Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:44 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:21 am I hate her post about the Ultra case.
i dislike that she skirted around commenting on the ultra read, but i don't really have a problem with her saying that you're not a wolf with ultra.
The compatibility analysis is fair, but I don't think it belongs there at the time with her not even voting me yet, let alone having seen me flip.

I just don't see what was the purpose of the post, since she's not agreeing/disagreeing with the case on Ultra nor having a problem with me backing Speed on it. The "not sure I care about this post" is absolutely ridiculous in this context lol.

Feels like a way to shade someone for absolutely no reason and kind of force direct interaction preparing for a vote. She ended up doing the latter.
i don't really get it either but there's a lot that has happened this game that i don't get, lol

what do you mean by force direct interaction

A faked ping to substantiate the read and the whole process.

I can't find another explanation for that quote and subtle shade lol.

Nah I think you're right, thinking about it Jay and Drago also made some comment about Owner. I guess they have stronger beef elsewhere

I could see an Ultra/Owner connection if I squint.

Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:44 am
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:21 am I hate her post about the Ultra case.
i dislike that she skirted around commenting on the ultra read, but i don't really have a problem with her saying that you're not a wolf with ultra.

The compatibility analysis is fair, but I don't think it belongs there at the time with her not even voting me yet, let alone having seen me flip.

I just don't see what was the purpose of the post, since she's not agreeing/disagreeing with the case on Ultra nor having a problem with me backing Speed on it. The "not sure I care about this post" is absolutely ridiculous in this context lol.

Feels like a way to shade someone for absolutely no reason and kind of force direct interaction preparing for a vote. She ended up doing the latter.

Who are those? I kind of remember Mac but he's also got beef with Epi so I'm not sure what's weird about it.

I hate her post about the Ultra case.

Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:01 am nova do you want to help me solve the game

Of course. What do you have?

Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:19 am oh, that's what epig meant

you really like that gif

It's a perfect gif

Gemma wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:52 am when is deadline?

It's on the poll, should be in your timezone. It's 5.pm EST

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:00 pm [VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

I'm here, where are you?

This is the one true lynch.

[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

Or is Novadar just that good these days?

Yo Mac I appreciate the defense but it's getting me paranoid

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:27 am
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:16 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:56 am
I'm bugged that Owner tacked on with nova here and then wrote this big vague essay about me being "different", whatever that means.
I didn't really tack on. I was already having thoughts in that direction, and highly doubt my past experience/reasoning overlapped with his reason for saying that.
Could be. @novaselinenever you still haven't told me what had you underwhelmed.

You weren't doing things.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:15 am [VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine

emoji/emoticon tell is kind of bugging me

Your posting a lot of emojis that relate to scum or evil mentality.

For now, that's what a got.

I guess I don't see a motivation for a townie player to be giving off such a vibe, but we don't necessarily pick which vibes we exhibit from player to player, so yeah..I forgot where I was going with this.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:53 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:14 pm I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.
Not sure if I care for this post too much.

If Nova is bad, Ultra would not be with him.

lf Nova is good, that doesn't necessarily confirm or deny Ultra's alignment.

This post makes no sense. Nobody has flipped, you're not arguing against the case made on ultra nor my thoughts on it. You're just going through hypothesis based on something that hasn't happened, that might not happened and branding it "Not care if I care for this post".

I believe this was before your vote on me. What is the point of this post?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:11 am I read nova's posts (yes, after I voted for him- I am above chronology ).

I'm not impressed.

The first sixteen posts are mainly dicking around.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:07 pm I don't like Soneji's entrance. I get the timid ones, especially for someone new to the community and the site but the old cracking a joke as an ice-breaker followed by absolutely nothing is shit.
"Someone new to the community" is like half the field, and these people are decidedly not timid.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:39 am
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:41 pm @novaselinenever

Reads please
I'm currently beefing with Rundon'twalk and Soneji. I'm not really buying the formers concern with Jay sticking him as good early on, and the whole "he knows I play the same as both alignments" is whack. That has never stopped people from forming read, let alone gut ones. If what he claims is true and Jay knows him well, he should also know Jay well and that flinging poo early on alongside sticking people with an alignment based on first impression is his bread and butter. I think I talked about Soneji's entrance sometime earlier.

The whole no lynch thing is hilarious, and I'm more intrigued by DDL jumping on Speed than the latter making that claim. I took it as him messing around, 'cause I don't believe for a second that he's serious about it.

I can't say I'm a fan of you calling out the vote on DDL, nor throwing around fancy words like "chainsaw defense". Feels like over-compensating
DDL gets his Fruit of the Looms in a wad over things sometimes, and he spoke up about this one.

If DDL were bad here, and there's a guy in the thread pushing a Day 1 no-lynch (even when it's obvious he's not doing that), why go to bat? Stay in the dugout.

Also fuck these ball players today.

nova has asked a lot of questions but has not meaningfully followed up on them. Here's an example. There are thirty-four question marks in nova's posting history, and he has forty-two posts. I know some of those question marks belong to other people, but damn. He doesn't go anywhere with any of them.

Holy shit bananas, there are even questions without question marks.

And so little follow through.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:40 am Epi isn't making a whole lot of sense
This is devoid of both punctuation and clarity.

Maybe he meant it to be a question.

I'm comfortable with my nova vote. My hope is that he gets lynched, is revealed to be mafia, and will henceforth and forever be monitoring his question mark usage.

I'm not getting lynched so don't get your hopes up but I'm sure I'll end up dying during this game and you'll see me revealed as my beautiful town self.

I didn't mean it to be a question. I was referring to your Jay stuff when you were asked about your stance on him. "Always bad until convinced otherwise", then turning it into "I don't give civilian reads like candy bla bla bla" is whack. You don't have to give him a civilian read, but at least you could share what his posts were making you feel at the time. You were avoiding giving a stance on him

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:29 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:15 pm Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.
This post is ironic consider what I just said about you.

I'm giving a lot of answer though. You're either not reading or full of shit.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:24 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:18 pm DDL what do you think of the interactions resulting from your vote.
I think speed feels civ.

I'm paranoid about anyone who defends me but that is normal.

And I think you are asking way too many questions. You are more aggressive when you are a civ,

DDL what do you think of the interactions resulting from your vote.

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:05 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:41 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:22 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:15 pm Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.
more specific pls
2 scum reads, 2 town reads and why.
v person is a blob with a hooded cloak watching me creepily from the sidelines

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:40 pm Speed
Gemma <- here and above is light green

Jay <-here and below is orange
Ultra
DDL

Where am I?

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:25 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:14 pm I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.
um

why is it iffy for someone to care what your reads are and prod you accordingly

i am confused

It isn't necessarily, but on its own as a bland question it's the cheapest way to fake prodding and interest. With the way, he's navigating the game through me as a compass, it felt iffy like someone that didn't really care about the answer.

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:22 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:15 pm Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.
more specific pls

2 scum reads, 2 town reads and why.

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:19 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:29 am
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:47 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:09 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:08 pm Yeah okay.
We got one.
Agreed that this entrance was awkward, especially in hindisight with his no lynch proposition

But then you proceeded to shade like 3 other people so I'm going to ask you how serious you are about this slot.
Is there a quota on how many people you can shade? I'm a proponent of the shade every bad thing you see and no neutral law. I'm not sure how the number of people I shade affect my seriousness, especially since you agree and see the same thing I do.
Ohohoho, someone's a little defensive. I was just trying to get clarification on what your read was on him was. Or anyone else you shaded.

You're mistaking defensive with constant offense

I didn't like his entrance so that's where the shade is coming from. I figured he was messing around with the no lynch 'cause I know the dude, and I didn't really see any motivation behind it although I agree that it's whack. Been feeling good about him with his recent reappearance, we're mind-melding.

Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:19 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:39 am
Ultra wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:41 pm @novaselinenever

Reads please
I'm currently beefing with Rundon'twalk and Soneji. I'm not really buying the formers concern with Jay sticking him as good early on, and the whole "he knows I play the same as both alignments" is whack. That has never stopped people from forming read, let alone gut ones. If what he claims is true and Jay knows him well, he should also know Jay well and that flinging poo early on alongside sticking people with an alignment based on first impression is his bread and butter. I think I talked about Soneji's entrance sometime earlier.

The whole no lynch thing is hilarious, and I'm more intrigued by DDL jumping on Speed than the latter making that claim. I took it as him messing around, 'cause I don't believe for a second that he's serious about it.

I can't say I'm a fan of you calling out the vote on DDL, nor throwing around fancy words like "chainsaw defense". Feels like over-compensating
If that was a bait post it's a pretty bad one. A player with low presence makes a very bad suggestion and then leaves. I can't reflexively blame someone for voting for that. I will blame a player for jumping on that player without explanation.

That's the easy way out. I'd have let it develop and see what shakes out especially if it's between players that know each other and you being new. I mean didn't it cross your mind that he might have been messing around, and it can't be that easy?

What's your stance on all three of them as of now?

Gemma what are your own thoughts. I'm seeing a lot of questions but not a lot of answers.

I dig your Ultra stuff, Speed. I can see a baddie Ultra using me as a compass to navigate through early game. His prod for reads kind of felt iffy to me, like I was getting a vibe that he actually cared what those were lol.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:01 pm
Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:58 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:57 am For my next performance, I'll suggest lynching a no-show on D1, which is a little more palatable. /s
too late

novas already did that
Is that so, @novaselinenever?

30 hours left and you want to lynch a no-show? Scum.

I was baiting of course

Gemma wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:58 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:57 am For my next performance, I'll suggest lynching a no-show on D1, which is a little more palatable. /s
too late

novas already did that

what does that tell you?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:24 am
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:18 pm Basically I voted you reflexively and now I'm trying to save face.
To add to Jack's above thoughts, DDL could have just voted as a disapproval and then moved on. A vote can be just as throwaway as the original line. But he's panicking, doubling down then retreating, trying to sound justified, etc.

I don't feel like I'm the authority on this, as I'm the one who baited the trap and might be biased, and DDL was the first to respond, but he definitely looks worst at first glance.

What do you think of admission of messing up? That doesn't looking someone trying to sound justified.

Epi isn't making a whole lot of sense

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