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I had suspicions of Colin and Sloonei during the first cycle (D1, N1), but that was it. I figured you out only way later when you refused to talk about me. My push on Colin was genuine, because I was initially thinking about joining Town lol. It was ironic how it was perceived as bussing after I had sided with Mafia. After his lynch, I had a change of heart about my allegiance and then dropped my read on Sloonei. I had a strong feeling he was my buddy
FinallyJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 10:26 pm Notable: this was novaselinenever's first Syndicate win in 9 tries. Great to see him get off the run of bad luck.
I brought it up softly when I said that the wagon formed too quickly and something was fishy. But I dropped it, as soon as I joined the dark side
I mean, that's kind of good enough. He's confirmed and he can be a strong leader.dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:27 pmMarmot is town but he has now lost his vote, cannot be lynched or killed. So basically he exists as a voice only.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:25 pmWhat do mean by the bolded?dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:09 pm Good result but...I really didn't want a 3p lynched.
So we're down Marmot and possibly another townie tonight. And 1 3p revealed scum aligned. Not good for our numbers.
Important to note was that Quin was the last 3p representative to join this day phase.
K stayed up till 3am for this. Catch y'all tomorrow. I'm gonna give a detailed rainbow tomorrow.
What do mean by the bolded?dunya wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:09 pm Good result but...I really didn't want a 3p lynched.
So we're down Marmot and possibly another townie tonight. And 1 3p revealed scum aligned. Not good for our numbers.
Important to note was that Quin was the last 3p representative to join this day phase.
K stayed up till 3am for this. Catch y'all tomorrow. I'm gonna give a detailed rainbow tomorrow.
I'm back. Catching up.
Why me ? I'd think Speed's flip shows that we are not teammates and that the wagon on me was a counter-wagon to Speed's in order to save him. You and Scotty are good ones for D6.
I already defended myself and I'll keep doing it. I don't know why Marmot is voting me up, but Daisy is doing a big OMGUS and playing the victim card. She isn't a low-hanging fruit and she's making my whole accusation against her about meta and since I only played 1 game with her beforehand, I can't possibly think she's bad, so I must be bad.Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 5:37 pmyeah and i guess it was cool and everything but like.... it seems like a lot of the time now people get lynched now after just like not being around
i miss the whole "hey don't lynch me, heres some reasons why i'm good and also heeres some reasons to lynch this other guy instead" thing, i miss the 90's
how am i supposed to know who's reacting to dying properly without them showing up to reactt
@novaselinenever @speedchuck @Jackofhearts2005
what're u doing
I never implied that it gave me insight into your entire play, but the two reactions are awfully similar so I'm good with my read on you.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:33 amNo man, you can't think one game has given you insight into my entire play. You're wrong. And you're bad.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:27 amI don't know you well, but I've played with you before. Guess what ? You were bad and did the same thing, you did last day phase. So, I'm not going anywhere from you.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:25 am Jack is town. I am going to [VOTE: nova] aubergine
I thought I was going to give him a pass because he didn't know me but everything I've seen develop since then.... Nope. I am definitely voting here.
I don't know you well, but I've played with you before. Guess what ? You were bad and did the same thing, you did last day phase. So, I'm not going anywhere from you.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:25 am Jack is town. I am going to [VOTE: nova] aubergine
I thought I was going to give him a pass because he didn't know me but everything I've seen develop since then.... Nope. I am definitely voting here.
I didn't have any interaction with him D2 though, so what are those interaction on D2 that don't help my case ? He posted 3 times during D2 and I told you that his posts were bad and nothing in them changed my mind nor warranted an interaction with him.Scotty wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:18 amYour interaction with Colin on day 2 don’t help your case in claiming any sort of “push” against Colin. You had that back and forth on N1 and then took a backseat until he was basically lynched on D2, while simultaneously pushing other narratives.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 1:11 amI feel like " evidence " is a strong word for what happened. It's a thrown away vote from and some interactions. Some argue that they make me bad, and I argue they don't. The motive behind Colin's vote is easily explainable and my interactions with him show that I was the second one to push him and I meant it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:59 am Nova is scum. Colin teammate evidence and generally a bad feeling.
Where does this bad feeling stems from ?
I feel like " evidence " is a strong word for what happened. It's a thrown away vote from and some interactions. Some argue that they make me bad, and I argue they don't. The motive behind Colin's vote is easily explainable and my interactions with him show that I was the second one to push him and I meant it.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 12:59 am Nova is scum. Colin teammate evidence and generally a bad feeling.
Why do you think that ? And, what makes her a low-hanging fruit ?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:42 pmI’m going to parrot MP at EoD yesterday and say that I don’t believe you believe SD is bad.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:36 pmWhat about that post ?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:34 pm[VOTE: nova] auberginenovaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:28 pmI'm still for a Daisy's lynch. I'd look into Quin and Speedchuck. I liked Choutas's reaction to the wagon against him and his post last day phase.
If there’s a low-hanging fruit for a lynch today, it’s her. And I don’t wanna go near that apple tree today.
I’d much sooner get near your pear tree
What about that post ?Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:34 pm[VOTE: nova] auberginenovaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:28 pmI'm still for a Daisy's lynch. I'd look into Quin and Speedchuck. I liked Choutas's reaction to the wagon against him and his post last day phase.
He was angle-shooting the possibility that SpaceDaisy is letting me buss her for Towncred.Scotty wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:31 pmWhere were you when I made a similar case and summary yesterday?Marmot wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:54 pmI like this summary.Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:51 pm Nova went after Colin early on, but when his lynch was ramping up he wasn't going after him much and mentioned the other guy as being a better lynch, then mentioned that he was sort of against Colin all along during his vote post which also made note of the speed at which the wagon against Colin ramped up
mmmm if Nova is bad then he was very calculated about how distancing from Colin starting as early as night 1
when did Colin start getting flak?
If it's true, I'd feel even better about lynching nova.
From my PoV, his vote was because he was afraid to be on the bad side of history and be responsible of a civvies lynch. Especially since his vote would have decided who get lynched (Me, sig and Epi were tied at 4-5 votes).Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 9:13 pm the question being "do those two sides happening make sense together strategically for teammates, would Colin defending nova like he did be a reason enough for nova to go at colin in the way he did as I guess... counter steering? or is it more possible that colin was bad on his own and no a was on him for regular reasons"
I was an independent in the Fiddler's Roof game, and mostly inactive in the Image.
The other guy was Sloonei, who I had as a bad read before going after Colin for his off-wagon vote.Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri May 04, 2018 8:51 pm Nova went after Colin early on, but when his lynch was ramping up he wasn't going after him much and mentioned the other guy as being a better lynch, then mentioned that he was sort of against Colin all along during his vote post which also made note of the speed at which the wagon against Colin ramped up
mmmm if Nova is bad then he was very calculated about how distancing from Colin starting as early as night 1
when did Colin start getting flak?
Sig put him down as someone who would side with Mafia if he was an Independent for fun. Wolbree agreed with that assessment D1.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:22 pmI do not know what you are referring to, but I had an early town read on wolbre and haven't looked back.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:21 pmWhat do you make of change of stance regarding Sig's original meta info on him ?
This is the second game I've played with you, and I wouldn't say I know how to read you or know your meta. I read posts, and judge them and they give me a read on a player. I didn't find your post genuine and I did find its tone dramatic, even if you say it wasn't. I don't reconcile your attitude in that post with a Townie mindset. You say you didn't dare me to vote you, then why mention to me that I should vote for you if I find you bad. You doubled-down on it. Why did you feel the need to do it ? I didn't express any intention of voting in my original post.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 7:10 pmYou are reading a dramatic tone into my post that isn't there nova. I was't being dramatic, like daring someone to vote or being aggressive even. I knew there was just no way I was catching up, but I am also not going to be a player who knows I am sucking badly at staying engaged and expect that is a good excuse for people not to vote for me. That was what I was saying. And when I flip it will become clear you don't know how to read me. Which is cool for me, because it means you'll have to keep guessing.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:38 pmIt wasn't a genuine a reaction. It was over-dramatic and there were no pression whatsoever on her. I simply asked if she had caught up, and she could have answered honestly. She was taunting me to vote of her, when I hadn't expressed no intention of doing that.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:34 pmExplain. Both of the underlined statements. I don't believe you.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:33 pmI tagged her to ask if she has caught up yet, since it's been a few day that she's been working on that. Her reaction was bad and she was inviting me to lynch her if I read her as bad. It was over dramatic and there was no pressure or previous interaction for her to do that.
I played a game with her before and she did something similar as a baddie. She was pressured and voted herself while advocating her lynch.
Fiddler on the Roof Mafia. Last day phase, she was pressured and she had a similar reaction. She said to people to vote for her and that she's 100% for her lynch. She even voted herself. She flipped bad.
Linki @Kylemii It is not uncommon for me to invite people to lynch me if I think discussion about me is overshadowing the game and I need to be flipped to get something going. And it has happened plenty of times. What I do not do, is manipulate with emotional outbursts or hide behind non activity. But I wasn;t quitting or asking to be lynched. I was saying no one should avoid voting me because I have been low activity, if they legitimately suspect me.
Ok.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:38 pmYou're bad.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:38 pmIt wasn't a genuine a reaction. It was over-dramatic and there were no pression whatsoever on her. I simply asked if she had caught up, and she could have answered honestly. She was taunting me to vote of her, when I hadn't expressed no intention of doing that.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:34 pmExplain. Both of the underlined statements. I don't believe you.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:33 pmI tagged her to ask if she has caught up yet, since it's been a few day that she's been working on that. Her reaction was bad and she was inviting me to lynch her if I read her as bad. It was over dramatic and there was no pressure or previous interaction for her to do that.
I played a game with her before and she did something similar as a baddie. She was pressured and voted herself while advocating her lynch.
Fiddler on the Roof Mafia. Last day phase, she was pressured and she had a similar reaction. She said to people to vote for her and that she's 100% for her lynch. She even voted herself. She flipped bad.
It wasn't a genuine a reaction. It was over-dramatic and there were no pression whatsoever on her. I simply asked if she had caught up, and she could have answered honestly. She was taunting me to vote of her, when I hadn't expressed no intention of doing that.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:34 pmExplain. Both of the underlined statements. I don't believe you.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 6:33 pmI tagged her to ask if she has caught up yet, since it's been a few day that she's been working on that. Her reaction was bad and she was inviting me to lynch her if I read her as bad. It was over dramatic and there was no pressure or previous interaction for her to do that.
I played a game with her before and she did something similar as a baddie. She was pressured and voted herself while advocating her lynch.
I tagged her to ask if she has caught up yet, since it's been a few day that she's been working on that. Her reaction was bad and she was inviting me to lynch her if I read her as bad. It was over dramatic and there was no pressure or previous interaction for her to do that.
What do you think made him say that then ?wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 5:54 amSig hasn't played enough with me to make a statement like that lol. Plus especially considering that the mafia wouldn't have a chat with me means that I could very well get killed, all for nothingnovaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 12:24 amYou sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.
What about the timing of it though ? It was with I think less than 10mn left, so I doubt he was trying to get a train going.Quin wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 5:26 am Colin's vote came across as genuine suspicion (or as close to genuine as scum can get) which makes me think he was trying to get a train going. Good look for her.
I thought she looked bad after her LC vote yesterday or the day before. Him being good, not so much. I might have the energy for a proper ISO tonight.
How does it seem rehearsed ? Haven't you ever suspected someone and them flipping scum would incriminate another player based on their interactions ?Quin wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:58 amI'm thinking about this. Hiding behind a prophet is a kind of pointless scum tactic considering the message is based on opinion. It's not a very good argument.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 6:55 pmI have been busy and I missed almost the entirety of D3 and the beginning of D4. I will also not have a lot of free-time until this weekend.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 2:11 pmHere we can get a glimpse from what appears to be sig calling him out on “coasting” as mafia previously, though nova sticks that up sig’a ass with a stick to smoke.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:44 pmThis feels like a forced vote. Earlier when you mentioned me, you said that I was playing my Town meta by being quiet but now it's opposite. Which is it then ?
I don’t know his meta, but one could say nova has been “coasting” of late. After Colin got lynched, he’s definitely lost a bit of wind in his sails
About D3, I announced my intention of pushing Lunalee before Colin's push since I believed that his vote for her D1 was a distancing vote on one of his teammate. A meaningless off-wagon vote. I also didn't like how she jumped on the Oracle's prophecy and tried to confirm herself with it, while ignoring my questioning her. That's why I left a vote on her at the start of D3, before leaving.
Now with the other prophecy mentioning her and town-reading her, I have my doubts and I think she is that role. She used the prophecy to save herself and hinting at her role. So I'm not too sold on lynching her today.
Last but not least, I would say that activity is non-alignment indicative for me. I'm being honest here and I've played several games here and players can attest to that. I have been seen " coasting " as Town in my previous games as Town here, and also in a game as scum.
Thing is, I don't know either of them very well. Would scum Luna do this? Would town nova make this argument?
Also, "I announced my intention of pushing" puts me off. It seems rehearsed.
You sure about that ? I remember Sig saying that he wouldn't be surprised if you sided with Mafia as an Indie, just for the fun of it.
What you think about the Oracle's read on her twice ?colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 10:46 pm I'm going to park it here for now
[VOTE: lunalee] aubergine
Yes, Fiddler in the Roof Mafia and she did something somewhat similar. She was endorsing her lynch 100% and even voted herself. She was a baddie that game.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:04 pmI suppose I can see it as a bit more defensive than it needs to be if I take it at face valur. Have you and daisy had previous interactions in this game?novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 9:00 pmDon't you think it is a bit of an overreaction to a simple " Did you catch up yet ? " ?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:55 pmI don’t read that post in a taunting tone. I just see it as her being relatively disengaged with the game.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:52 pmI don't like how she's taunting me and inviting me to for her " if I think she's bad ". All I did was ask her if she caught up and I feel like she's overreacting and the post doesn't feel genuine at all.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:38 pmTell me whyyynovaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:26 pmOh, don't worry, it's won't keep me from voting you.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:55 pm
Nope. And I probably won't. Don't let that keep you from voting me if you feel like I'm bad. I mean I can be a pretty crafty baddie. But I'm not about to hide behind inactivity, fwiw. My lack of activity is just because of outside stuffs. If you find me bad, vote me. Don't let my shitty time management keep you from it.
I'm even more inclined to do so after this post tbh tbf. I don't like it at all.
None of this alignment i dicative to me.
Don't you think it is a bit of an overreaction to a simple " Did you catch up yet ? " ?Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:55 pmI don’t read that post in a taunting tone. I just see it as her being relatively disengaged with the game.novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:52 pmI don't like how she's taunting me and inviting me to for her " if I think she's bad ". All I did was ask her if she caught up and I feel like she's overreacting and the post doesn't feel genuine at all.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:38 pmTell me whyyynovaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:26 pmOh, don't worry, it's won't keep me from voting you.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:55 pmNope. And I probably won't. Don't let that keep you from voting me if you feel like I'm bad. I mean I can be a pretty crafty baddie. But I'm not about to hide behind inactivity, fwiw. My lack of activity is just because of outside stuffs. If you find me bad, vote me. Don't let my shitty time management keep you from it.
I'm even more inclined to do so after this post tbh tbf. I don't like it at all.
None of this alignment i dicative to me.
I don't like how she's taunting me and inviting me to for her " if I think she's bad ". All I did was ask her if she caught up and I feel like she's overreacting and the post doesn't feel genuine at all.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:38 pmTell me whyyynovaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 8:26 pmOh, don't worry, it's won't keep me from voting you.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed May 02, 2018 7:55 pmNope. And I probably won't. Don't let that keep you from voting me if you feel like I'm bad. I mean I can be a pretty crafty baddie. But I'm not about to hide behind inactivity, fwiw. My lack of activity is just because of outside stuffs. If you find me bad, vote me. Don't let my shitty time management keep you from it.
I'm even more inclined to do so after this post tbh tbf. I don't like it at all.
