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Thanks for the game hosts and well played baddies.

[mention]Tranq[/mention] Thank you for getting me killed by my own people lol. I thought they would have gone after you when I flipped Town. Well played.

That doesn't sound like the Town Lapluie I just played with.

Don't mind me, just leaving a vote on Tranq.

Ambray wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:06 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:04 pm
Ambray wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:58 pm Nova - how long have you played mafia for?
A good while. However, I'm new to this place.
Where do you normally play?

And where does MacDougall also play? He just said you were new...

On two other forums I'm a member of.

LoRab wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:00 pm Novas: help me understand. How do you see tranq as not contributing? Have you read his posts?

I have. He has mostly been talking about the mechanics (abilities and night polls), a dead player potentially being bad and tunneling against me.

He wanted to vote D1 against people who didn't vote during the night poll, and then ended up voting Rabbit. He said he was confident with his vote but he didn't give any reason for it.

Ambray wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:58 pm Nova - how long have you played mafia for?

A good while. However, I'm new to this place.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:48 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:49 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:34 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:18 pm His whole push against me since last day phase feels like a scum trying to get an easy target for a vote and save himself from the scrutiny and giving reasons for his vote. He's just going after low poster as an excuse for that. That's at least the vibe I'm getting especially after he left a vote against me and was not seen again during the last day phase. He doesn't seem like he wants to try to out scum or read them.
His vote right now, against me and his whole ' I'm confident about my vote ' just strengthen my opinion of him. He was just waiting for me to come on and as soons as I voted against him, he pulled an OMEGUS.
I'm in Europe - the lynches end at 5am for me. Juliets pointed this out to you yesterday, you even replied to her. I vote early and i leave, as i will have to do again soon-ish. You should know this.
How did i wait for you to come on and vote to do an OMEGUS? I literally suggested to have "a couple of votes on novaselinenever" minutes before you came and voted me. You're doing the things you're accusing me of here, lol.

What do you think about the rabbit posts i went through?
Timezones are irrelevant. What is relevant is you going after me for low-activity and inactivity. You've been tunneling and using this as an excuse to vote and not give proper reads. This is how i see it, a scum trying not to put himself too much out there and vote against people where he might get scrutinized. You've been mentioning me in the majority with your post so that people don't forget that you view me as scum.

You've been suggesting it all day and didn't vote yourself. You agreed with people voting Illarya and sheeped them. However you still mentioned me and didn't vote against me at the time. You waited until I voted you, before voting. You aren't giving your opinion or thoughts on Illarya and just agreed with the majority voting her. Why didn't you vote her up ?

What of your rabbit post ? She's dead and all you did was say that she might have been scum. Why didn't you give these reads while she was still alive ?
Timezones are relevant. All of the main debates happen after midnight. Yesterday i went to sleep with only my vote on you, and woke up to several roleclaims and what looked like a triple tied lynch. Today i woke up and saw a dead, female rabbit.

Look at what happened today and in what order. I wanted discussion on a couple of players i had no reads on - juliets, Illyria and you. Several players have townreads on juliets, so i focus on you and Illyria. Going through rabbit's posts i pointed out his Illyria post and the fact the two of you never interacted. I wanted to hear other players' thoughts on that before voting. A couple are down with voting Illyria which i'm ok with. Then i suggest having you as a backup.

Then here's what i think happened.
You come in shortly after i suggested that (either lucky timing or someone alerted you) and you log into your baddie chatroom and read "looks like it's an Illyria lynch", and quickly vote Illyria and then quickly change it to me before someone notices. Then you don't name Illyria as a suspect in your next post. That's what makes you suspicious. That's why i'm confident in my vote. Whyyyyyyy vote Illyria? I could've maybe bought it had you voted alphabetically first, or went with your intended vote. I don't buy the "i wanted to see the results" excuse. You see the results when you vote for your intented target, and the view results function works just fine. Looks to me you quickly decided "i should vote with the majority" or "i should quickly vote for my own teammate" before changing your mind and trying something else. Then you get frustrated and make this mess with those no u posts, lol.

Anyway, i'm leaving my vote as it is. Time for me to go. I wasn't confident going in today having to vote early again, but i'm feeling pretty ok now.

Fair enough mate. I'm also confident on my vote on you and will be leaving it as it is.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:32 pm speedchuck
nutella
juliets
Kylemii
sig
Lapluie
MacDougall
novaselinenever
S~V~S
Ambray
Tranq
LoRab
Illyria

In rough order. My townreads, the top half of the list, are more certain than my scumreads.
I was one of your top civ reads before I suspected you, is that how you roll?

Catching up now, I had Illy towards the bottom of my rankings last time I posted them, is it just generic blendy quietness or is it something else?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:47 pm LoRab, I had you as like a top townread except for the role fishing, which wouldn't even be as bad if you hadn't denied it. But for today, I'm willing to chalk that up to "different backgrounds" (My background is closed setups with lots of role crap, and role fishing [in other words trying to get someone to talk directly about their role or what their role is not] was considered bad bad bad) because we share a common top scumread. Let's talk about that.

You read Illyria as scum for meta, gut, and a few posts. I've been reading her as scum because of tone and interactions, having never played a game with her before.

We arrived at the same conclusion for different, but complementary reasons. And I find that to be a good reason to vote.
I like this post.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:20 pm So your case is because he cased you but he is the one pulling omgus?

That kind of crazy talk only comes from civs. Next.

Oi lapluie talk.
I don't care that his case is against me. It doesn't matter if it is against me or any other low poster.

The case is he's pushing against inactives and low posters. He isn't trying to out scum or do anything else. He is just trying to find easy target to leave his vote on them and then save himself the trouble and scrutiny from Town. With his votes against me no one is questioning it or his reads. The only reason he's been giving is low-posting and inactivity. He did the same last day phase before leaving. He just mentioned me and my activity, and then left his vote and left. He didn't try going against Speechuck or DFaraday, because they required real reads and reasons to vote them. Scum would avoid that and go for easy targets. That's what he's doing.

He did the same right now. As soon as I voted against him, he returned the favor and went on with ' I feel good about my vote '. If that isn't bullshit I don't know what is.
I think this may be cultural? The other LP people can correct me if I am wrong, but this was a very common thing where we all came from, we voted for low posters/non voters the first few days, especially if it was quiet like it was on Super Bowl Sunday. You seem to be taking this personally, and it is more of a "Play or die" thing. It's more fun playing with people who play

Also Mac should post MOAR CAT VIDEOS!!

Dropping a vote on Illy for now, will bbl after dinner to finish reading.

Maybe it is then. I see it as scum trying to cast a reasonable vote without contributing. It helps them avoid some scrutiny that comes when voting for most other people.

I apologize if I appear to have taken it personally. I have not, it's just that I genuinely read him as bad and for the reasons above. Me going back and forth with him is because of my read not him voting me.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:34 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:18 pm His whole push against me since last day phase feels like a scum trying to get an easy target for a vote and save himself from the scrutiny and giving reasons for his vote. He's just going after low poster as an excuse for that. That's at least the vibe I'm getting especially after he left a vote against me and was not seen again during the last day phase. He doesn't seem like he wants to try to out scum or read them.
His vote right now, against me and his whole ' I'm confident about my vote ' just strengthen my opinion of him. He was just waiting for me to come on and as soons as I voted against him, he pulled an OMEGUS.
I'm in Europe - the lynches end at 5am for me. Juliets pointed this out to you yesterday, you even replied to her. I vote early and i leave, as i will have to do again soon-ish. You should know this.
How did i wait for you to come on and vote to do an OMEGUS? I literally suggested to have "a couple of votes on novaselinenever" minutes before you came and voted me. You're doing the things you're accusing me of here, lol.

What do you think about the rabbit posts i went through?

Timezones are irrelevant. What is relevant is you going after me for low-activity and inactivity. You've been tunneling and using this as an excuse to vote and not give proper reads. This is how i see it, a scum trying not to put himself too much out there and vote against people where he might get scrutinized. You've been mentioning me in the majority with your post so that people don't forget that you view me as scum.

You've been suggesting it all day and didn't vote yourself. You agreed with people voting Illarya and sheeped them. However you still mentioned me and didn't vote against me at the time. You waited until I voted you, before voting. You aren't giving your opinion or thoughts on Illarya and just agreed with the majority voting her. Why didn't you vote her up ?

What of your rabbit post ? She's dead and all you did was say that she might have been scum. Why didn't you give these reads while she was still alive ?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:20 pm So your case is because he cased you but he is the one pulling omgus?

That kind of crazy talk only comes from civs. Next.

Oi lapluie talk.

I don't care that his case is against me. It doesn't matter if it is against me or any other low poster.

The case is he's pushing against inactives and low posters. He isn't trying to out scum or do anything else. He is just trying to find easy target to leave his vote on them and then save himself the trouble and scrutiny from Town. With his votes against me no one is questioning it or his reads. The only reason he's been giving is low-posting and inactivity. He did the same last day phase before leaving. He just mentioned me and my activity, and then left his vote and left. He didn't try going against Speechuck or DFaraday, because they required real reads and reasons to vote them. Scum would avoid that and go for easy targets. That's what he's doing.

He did the same right now. As soon as I voted against him, he returned the favor and went on with ' I feel good about my vote '. If that isn't bullshit I don't know what is.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:18 pm Illyria isn't even the first name on the poll - that's Ambray. Why not vote for your intended target if you wanted to see the poll results?

It is what is is.

Nutella doing the same him. She did the same last phase too. Those two are most likely scum buddies.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:11 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:09 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:08 pm How come? And would you be willing to change your vote to yourself?
Why would I vote to myself ?

Tranq u so funny.

How about Illyria, Nova?

linki: man we feel like a horde of orcs cornering a poor adventurer

Neutral about her and with Tranq as a scum, I don't see why I should vote for her.

His whole push against me since last day phase feels like a scum trying to get an easy target for a vote and save himself from the scrutiny and giving reasons for his vote. He's just going after low poster as an excuse for that. That's at least the vibe I'm getting especially after he left a vote against me and was not seen again during the last day phase. He doesn't seem like he wants to try to out scum or read them.
His vote right now, against me and his whole ' I'm confident about my vote ' just strengthen my opinion of him. He was just waiting for me to come on and as soons as I voted against him, he pulled an OMEGUS.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:09 pm Why did you vote Illyria first and then not name her as one of your suspects?

I voted for her just to see to be able to see the results of votes and then immediately changed my vote on you. When I click on seeing the results, I can't vote anymore. I'm neutral about her.

Tranq wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:08 pm How come? And would you be willing to change your vote to yourself?

Why would I vote to myself ?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:34 pm Below is nova's last post. He still hasn't given any clue who he suspects or who he sees as town if he is doing a POE analysis. I don't think that is acceptable for this kind of fast paced game. Nova, if you have anything to say relevant to this please do so. You are a prime suspect for me at this time.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:16 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:09 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:57 pm @novaselinenever the penalty vote was mentioned in the lynch post. Everyone who missed the vote on D1 started D2 with a vote on them. You have an extra vote against you.
Well, I missed that too. Thank you.

A question though, do they accumulate ? For example, if someone already has a vote penalty on them and proceeds to not vote again. Would they have 2 votes on them next day phase ?
That's up to the hosts. They might or might not give you an answer. Really it would be smartest and safest of you to just use your vote and stop being unreasonably contentious about it.
So I'm being unreasonably contentious for playing differently and asking a few questions. That's fair.

Anyway thank you for the help.
Trans, I can't help you with what rabbit normally does - mention teammates, ignore them, etc. It's just been too long. Thank you for the interaction analysis though.

Hello there, I'm here. Not a lot have been said for me to weigh on at this time. As for my suspects, I'm leaving my vote on Tranq. And for Town reads, I'd say Lapluie and S~v~S are my strongest.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:09 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:05 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:57 pm @novaselinenever the penalty vote was mentioned in the lynch post. Everyone who missed the vote on D1 started D2 with a vote on them. You have an extra vote against you.
Well, I missed that too. Thank you.

A question though, do they accumulate ? For example, if someone already has a vote penalty on them and proceeds to not vote again. Would they have 2 votes on them next day phase ?
That's up to the hosts. They might or might not give you an answer. Really it would be smartest and safest of you to just use your vote and stop being unreasonably contentious about it.

So I'm being unreasonably contentious for playing differently and asking a few questions. That's fair.

Anyway thank you for the help.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:57 pm @novaselinenever the penalty vote was mentioned in the lynch post. Everyone who missed the vote on D1 started D2 with a vote on them. You have an extra vote against you.

Well, I missed that too. Thank you.

A question though, do they accumulate ? For example, if someone already has a vote penalty on them and proceeds to not vote again. Would they have 2 votes on them next day phase ?

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:33 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:05 pmYeah you said that before about how you thought Speedchuck was a bad lynch. I am beginning to feel like a bad person for actually having suspects... in a Mafia game. Has having suspects gone out of fashion while I was not playing?
Suspecting people is incredibly cool but thinking critically about all angles of every situation and sometimes getting really anxious about it is also very cool, some might say, even cooler.
I am thinking critically about it, Kyle. This is a game where we pick apart the minutiae of each others posts, after all. All you are saying is, "Anyone but Chuck".

Give me an alternative. Ambray is not coming back, she's in Europe. Chuck started off with one vote as a penalty for not voting yesterday. So he has 2 votes that aren't going anywhere. Nutella is coming back, too. (linki, no she is here)

Who else do you propose?

Linki @novaselinenever You are required to vote in this game; you already have one penalty vote for missing yesterdays vote. Civvies vote and they make informed votes. This is why someone who says they have nothing to add would seem like you are not paying attention to the thread; can you see why people might find that suspect? Do you see my point?

Linki again yes, SVS HAS made alot of posts

What is a penalty vote ?

I don't see your point, because I doubt a non-civil would be honest about it. He/She would most likely try to blend in. I don't really suspect people who are mostly inactive or low posters.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:43 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:32 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:19 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:18 pm @Tranq Mind explaining your vote on me ?
Tranq has gone for the night as he said in his last post. He explained his vote for you in another post - have you read them? You haven't made any posts besides this one since Day 0 and it kinda feels like you are avoiding the game because you are posting elsewhere. S~V~S asked you your thoughts on the game but you haven't responded. It would be helpful to me if you would. I can see why Tranq voted for you and I could consider a vote here as well.

link
I must have missed them then. I'm not really avoiding the game, I'm just a quiet player and don't post unless I have something to contribute. At the moment, I don't and that's why you haven't heard my thoughts. Also, S-V-S never mentioned me in a post or I didn't get the notification.

Me posting in another game and not in this one doesn't mean anything. You could always check that game and you'd see that I didn't post early in the game when I didn't have anything to add.
I tend not to use the mention function; this is my first game back for a 6 month or so break and we did not have it back them. I also work on the assumption that people read the thread. Sorry about that.

Not sure if you realized but the host in this game penalizes for missed votes.
You're assumption is right, I do read the thread and try to keep up with it. As should anyone. However, I missed your mention and I just did an iso on you to find it. You actually asked twice but they were buried in a post not addressing me. I must have been not paying much attention.

Just tag me next time you want to hear from me. Or vote me up, I wont' miss that.
If you're reading the thread how did you miss Tranq's explanation of his vote for you? I guess you didn't even check his ISO before you made the post asking him.

Well the first thing that pops up when opening the thread is the poll. I noticed his vote on me and asked him before doing anything less. I would have still asked him the same questions had I read his reasons. No harm in him telling them directly to me even if he repeats himself.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:45 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:41 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:36 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:18 pm @Tranq Mind explaining your vote on me ?
Tranq has gone for the night as he said in his last post. He explained his vote for you in another post - have you read them? You haven't made any posts besides this one since Day 0 and it kinda feels like you are avoiding the game because you are posting elsewhere. S~V~S asked you your thoughts on the game but you haven't responded. It would be helpful to me if you would. I can see why Tranq voted for you and I could consider a vote here as well.

link
I must have missed them then. I'm not really avoiding the game, I'm just a quiet player and don't post unless I have something to contribute. At the moment, I don't and that's why you haven't heard my thoughts. Also, S-V-S never mentioned me in a post or I didn't get the notification.

Me posting in another game and not in this one doesn't mean anything. You could always check that game and you'd see that I didn't post early in the game when I didn't have anything to add.
I did check the other game and you posted 18 times on Day 0 and Day 1/Night 1, most of that on Day 0. You even gave a read on someone as being suspicious. I'll agree that you didn't say a whole lot but you were a lot more active than you've been here.

linki
What about after D1 ? I'm sure you've seen my activity during those phases. You shouldn't be comparing Day1/Night1 of this game with the other game or any of the other games for the matter. It all depends on if I have something to contribute/say or not. I didn't and still don't for now.
I was mostly looking at Day 0 versus Day 0 because thats where most of your posts were in that game. I will keep in mind what you've said. You're a new player to me and all I know is that one comparison.

Also, can you tell me why you didn't vote on Day 1? I noticed when I went to the other game that nutella explained to you there the culture surrounding voting here and the fact that some hosts punish for not voting which is exactly what's happened here. I don't mean to harass you with these questions, it's just my style to ask.

I don't vote unless I have a lynch target. I just don't like to vote for the sake of voting or sheeping. She did but as I understood it, it's a culture thing and I haven't seen anything about it in the rules. I've played in games where no-voting resulted as a self-vote. I'm ok with that when I don't have a clear lynch target.

It's really no problem at all. You can ask any questions you may have.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:36 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:18 pm @Tranq Mind explaining your vote on me ?
Tranq has gone for the night as he said in his last post. He explained his vote for you in another post - have you read them? You haven't made any posts besides this one since Day 0 and it kinda feels like you are avoiding the game because you are posting elsewhere. S~V~S asked you your thoughts on the game but you haven't responded. It would be helpful to me if you would. I can see why Tranq voted for you and I could consider a vote here as well.

link
I must have missed them then. I'm not really avoiding the game, I'm just a quiet player and don't post unless I have something to contribute. At the moment, I don't and that's why you haven't heard my thoughts. Also, S-V-S never mentioned me in a post or I didn't get the notification.

Me posting in another game and not in this one doesn't mean anything. You could always check that game and you'd see that I didn't post early in the game when I didn't have anything to add.
I did check the other game and you posted 18 times on Day 0 and Day 1/Night 1, most of that on Day 0. You even gave a read on someone as being suspicious. I'll agree that you didn't say a whole lot but you were a lot more active than you've been here.

linki

What about after D1 ? I'm sure you've seen my activity during those phases. You shouldn't be comparing Day1/Night1 of this game with the other game or any of the other games for the matter. It all depends on if I have something to contribute/say or not. I didn't and still don't for now.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:19 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:18 pm @Tranq Mind explaining your vote on me ?
Tranq has gone for the night as he said in his last post. He explained his vote for you in another post - have you read them? You haven't made any posts besides this one since Day 0 and it kinda feels like you are avoiding the game because you are posting elsewhere. S~V~S asked you your thoughts on the game but you haven't responded. It would be helpful to me if you would. I can see why Tranq voted for you and I could consider a vote here as well.

link
I must have missed them then. I'm not really avoiding the game, I'm just a quiet player and don't post unless I have something to contribute. At the moment, I don't and that's why you haven't heard my thoughts. Also, S-V-S never mentioned me in a post or I didn't get the notification.

Me posting in another game and not in this one doesn't mean anything. You could always check that game and you'd see that I didn't post early in the game when I didn't have anything to add.
I tend not to use the mention function; this is my first game back for a 6 month or so break and we did not have it back them. I also work on the assumption that people read the thread. Sorry about that.

Not sure if you realized but the host in this game penalizes for missed votes.

You're assumption is right, I do read the thread and try to keep up with it. As should anyone. However, I missed your mention and I just did an iso on you to find it. You actually asked twice but they were buried in a post not addressing me. I must have been not paying much attention.

Just tag me next time you want to hear from me. Or vote me up, I wont' miss that.

lapluie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:14 pm @novaselinenever today I learned your username has vaseline & was quite confused why people kept saying vaseline..

Well, that took you a long time lol.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 9:00 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:18 pm @Tranq Mind explaining your vote on me ?
Tranq has gone for the night as he said in his last post. He explained his vote for you in another post - have you read them? You haven't made any posts besides this one since Day 0 and it kinda feels like you are avoiding the game because you are posting elsewhere. S~V~S asked you your thoughts on the game but you haven't responded. It would be helpful to me if you would. I can see why Tranq voted for you and I could consider a vote here as well.

link

I must have missed them then. I'm not really avoiding the game, I'm just a quiet player and don't post unless I have something to contribute. At the moment, I don't and that's why you haven't heard my thoughts. Also, S-V-S never mentioned me in a post or I didn't get the notification.

Me posting in another game and not in this one doesn't mean anything. You could always check that game and you'd see that I didn't post early in the game when I didn't have anything to add.

[mention]Tranq[/mention] Mind explaining your vote on me ?

juliets wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:57 pm I found a connection between Buffy and Full Metal jacket but I don't know what it means. It seems in a 2001 Buffy show All the Way one of the Buffy characters said "What is your malfunction, man?". Unfortunately I don't remember that line from FMJ and don't know the context of it in Buffy. Maybe someone else understands the reference. Still looking for connections to the other movies.

I remember that scene from FMJ, it was " What is your major malfunction, numbnuts ? ". I have no idea what the connection is though and why is the scene referenced in Buffy.

Hello people.

Voted New Jack city because nobody else did.

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