The Syndicate

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 8:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:25 pm Omg how did Juliets not shoot me?

It is my greatest regret but at the time it seemed a little selfish. But I KNEW I just KNEW you were bad because of your tunneling which is EXACTLY what you did in that other game.

And beyond you I just had no idea who was really bad and was afraid I would put us in an even worse position than we were already in.

What I want to know is how the hell Mac got lynched. I peaked in and saw that and just shook my head and left so I didn't read back. And I haven't looked at the roles but was Dom the insane cop?

Congrats baddies, and nova by the way I will know bad nova next time a see one. But you all played this one really well.

But I wasn't bad this game lol.

My interactions with Jack were hilarious. They were so polite and open minded even though we knew we couldn't possibly work together and against each other lol.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:49 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:41 pm We did a huge gambit on day 5 lol, so glad it paid off

Good game town, Bette truck next time

I thought town was about to pull off a miracle comeback for all of Day 5 right up until the end.

They still could have won if sig had stopped your nightkill, but then you guys roleblocked him anyway.

We had the PoE for it. It sucks that I couldn't be here for EoD to help them get 4 votes

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:55 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:43 pm @Sloonei Did Dom get tangled with a bus-drive target and got innocent on someone that ended up flipping, which made him think he's sane and as such sure of a guilty result on Mac?

Otherwise I'm not sure how he didn't consider it. I mean I gave him the receipts, it went both ways. Mac legacy reading TSP as civ, and TSP doing the same.

You guys lynched the redirector Day 1.

Oh lol.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] Did Dom get tangled with a bus-drive target and got innocent on someone that ended up flipping, which made him think he's sane and as such sure of a guilty result on Mac?

Otherwise I'm not sure how he didn't consider it. I mean I gave him the receipts, it went both ways. Mac legacy reading TSP as civ, and TSP doing the same.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:38 pm I was totally ready to Lynch Jack on Day 4 and then I died and was mad that I had forgotten to tell Mac to do it for me.

He was supposed to get lynched last phase as well

Thanks for the game Sloonei. GG baddies.

My previous PoE

I've been lynched twice on the Syndicate I believe. Both were mislynches. And I was absent during both. Please don't make this the third one lol.

In case I don't see ya: Good afternoon, good evening, and good night!

Well that's it from me. Let me say this one more time, I'M TOWN. PINKY PROMISE.

PoE still Sprit/Jack/Sabie and Rej. More confident on the first 2, especially with Sprit after our bunch of interactions. That said I won't be voting for him 'cause that lynch might not happen and puts me in danger with Jack circling around me.

Going for my boy Jack [VOTE: Jackofhearts2005] aubergine

[mention]MacDougall[/mention] Don't let these peeps lynch me fam. My life is in your hands. I'm voting Jack so make that lynch happen, Sprit is a good second if you get the votes. Just look at our interactions lol.

[mention]sig[/mention] I'm town please don't lynch me.

[mention]Dom[/mention] You said probably me. Don't let me go

Godspeed.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:32 am @novaselinenever

Let’s talk about Sabie, Sprityo and Rej then.

I feel pretty good about Sig. I feel real good about Mac.

If we’re both town, that’s probably the mafia or maybe Dom instead of one of them. If you’re mafia, it’s probably one of them plus you and Dom for you trying to clear him. In a world where I was mafia, Dom is probably clear for me suspecting him at this point so it’s 2 of Rej, Sprityo, Sabie and me.

So who should we lynch in that pool?

I’m not voting Sprityo because if you look at his iso, all he’s done is naysay lynches on townies. Maybe that’s tmi but for wolf Sprityo to sit back and not try to push for mislynches but rather push against them just seems wrong. It would be easy to shrug or to point fingers but he doesn’t.

Sabie feels pretty town. Nothing she’s said has pinged me. She feels exactly like SHP Sabie. She’s not super active or super confident but there’s nothing suspicious going on.

Rej had some crap interactions with Drago on D1. With Dom as well. Drago flipped town. Drago seemed pretty sure Rej was town. Rej is now voting Sabie with you.

I figure if Rej flips town, the game is already over. If he flips scum, that might spew Dom and/or Sabie town (depends on how today’s votes shape up and rereading Rej and Dom’s interactions). So then I’m looking at a Rej, Nova, ??? team.

Okay, I tried to keep this something we could both look at objectively but that conclusion makes it pretty difficult.

Whatever. Gimmie thoughts on those 3.

What happened to me clearing Sig too easily?

I'm actually leaning on Sprit so I guess we're not too different world. I haven't played much with Sprit, the onyl wolf sprit I remember was that Vanilla game. That seems like a really underwhelming reason to townread someone for. Didn't he come in late into the game? Also he is actually pushing a mislynch right now, on yours truly lol. He's also doing it in such a dishonest way, I'm having trouble believing his suspicions. Just take a look at our interactions, and how he's basically avoiding to responds to any of my more meaty points but rather juggles around them and come back at me with some petty things and each time with more convictions that I'm bad.

I appreciate you doing that lol, but like you said it's not possible. We're not only on different planets, our conclusions basically makes it impossible.

My thoughts on all three are above fam, and I guess I expended on sprit in this post as well.

Also I don't think we're done with a town flip this phase depending on certain factors, that's why I really want to believe in my PoE and I think we can clear it.

First phrase of that me quote is new content to respond second phrase is a quote from my wall post lol

sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:40 am but like if nova has all this interest in me in his poe pool, then why am i not being voted for?

that's the thing. he's still voting sabie after this whole kerfuffle today. sabie being someone who has barely spoken a word. it's either a bus attempt, or a mislynch attempt imo

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:26 am I have interest in everyone in my poe pool. And in one of my posts to you I told you that my vote on her wasn't set on stone, and here's my latest post.
I'm going to go read back on some stuff and probably make a decision on where to vote. I got a feeling it'll be on Jack or Sprit

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:13 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 11:05 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:29 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:22 am I've been trying to wrap my head around a Sprit, Sabie and Rej team to see if Jack could be civ. It's not sexy enough lol.

Need my boy Jack there

Yeah, I'd sexify a mafia team a lot.

Walk me though why that is or isn't the team. I hate the idea of the town getting crushed by 3 players just coasting the whole game. Does that ever happen?

I might as well ask you to vote for me, right?

That's exactly it. I feel like it's so unlikely that we're getting steamrolled by 3 coasters, and in my PoE you're the only one that has been an active voice throughout the game. Although Sprit has been vocal lately I guess. I think you could say the same about me if I'm in your PoE lol.

It's possible though that that's what is happening. They're just letting us each other alive lol.

I mean, yeah but you kinda beat me to the punch.

Jack, I'm town and I'm voting in less than half an hour and that'll be the last of me. Tell me why you're a civ.

Funny little thing. I'm not going to be here for the rest of the phase 'cause I'm pulling a disappearing act in like half an hour. I'll probably be back if we're still in the game and I'm still alive for the next day phase, hopefully.

I'll start with saying that I'm town so y'all better don't lynch me. Looking at you Sig and Sprit.

Still feel good about my PoE (Jack, Sabie, Rej and Sprit) although Dom is a little bit worrying me. Sure I can see a world where he is entertaining the possibility mentioned earlier by some due to a flip and figuring stuff out, but in that word Mac is bad and isn't who we think he is. If that is so, who the fuck is that dude lol? Not possible me think.

Y'all can refer to my posts for how I arrived at that PoE and my takes on the 4 cleared and 4 accused. Speaking about the PoE, I've been dancing with way to team 3 of the 4, and Jack's name is popping up in the most likely teams. Mostly 'cause without him that'd be a boring ass team lol. It's pretty hypocritical of me 'cause in another PoE I'm probably the Jack of it, vocal dude that's been hella wrong this game.

I think with that angle being brought up and discussed, I'm prime mislynch real-estate so don't let me down. Speaking of my mislynch, Sprit is voting me and he's on the naughty list. Posted about it earlier and I absolutely hate how he's trying to make me work for it when this is a potential elimination phase. He isn't trying to figure me out, and the "things he feels bad about me" haven't been brought to light nor has he tried to interact directly with me. All we have is a Sun-like summary of some of the stuff I've did without delving any deeper in the meat of my posts. I got some thoughts on Sabie in one my post directed to Sprit so look that up if you're interested. I have next to fuck all on Rej, not only has he been absent although for understandable reasons, I just don't feel like he's playing even when he's around. He's doing some weird shit lol, and seems to come up with a new direction to go each phase although his previous stuff have seemingly not resolved yet. He was after Dom last phase I think, now Sabie.

So of all these nonsense is to tell you to get on with that PoE and buzz off if you're thinking about voting me or already had. Looking at you Sig and Spirt

I'm going to go read back on some stuff and probably make a decision on where to vote. I got a feeling it'll be on Jack or Sprit

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:29 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:22 am I've been trying to wrap my head around a Sprit, Sabie and Rej team to see if Jack could be civ. It's not sexy enough lol.

Need my boy Jack there

Yeah, I'd sexify a mafia team a lot.

Walk me though why that is or isn't the team. I hate the idea of the town getting crushed by 3 players just coasting the whole game. Does that ever happen?

I might as well ask you to vote for me, right?

That's exactly it. I feel like it's so unlikely that we're getting steamrolled by 3 coasters, and in my PoE you're the only one that has been an active voice throughout the game. Although Sprit has been vocal lately I guess. I think you could say the same about me if I'm in your PoE lol.

It's possible though that that's what is happening. They're just letting us each other alive lol.

I've been trying to wrap my head around a Sprit, Sabie and Rej team to see if Jack could be civ. It's not sexy enough lol.

Need my boy Jack there

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:29 pm @nova I won’t be voting Sabie over you unless you have something more convincing to offer. A theory of something easy for me to follow. I already expressed my summary of sabies iso and how I see it and while it’s lacking in all content, you have more content that I don’t like.

You don't seem to be trying to figure me out. What is the content you don't like? Is it dismissal or sarcasm that you alluded to? That's the staple of civ!nova and I'd be surprised if you see it as bad. We've played a few times together and you hosted me in the Sockpuppet game where Bravo took that to the next level. Interact with me and you'll see that I'm town. Your summary of my iso didn't dig into the meat of my posts at all.

My vote isn't set in stone and I'm not trying to convince you to vote for her. I'm trying to tell you that I'm town and if you are, you're after the wrong person.

As for Sabie, she's part of my PoE and you are as well alongside Jack and Rej. Her iso is not only lacking content, it's pretty bad. She isn't interacting with people nor trying to figure things out. It's basically just a bunch of 'reads' post every once in a while when she shows up to keep up appearances I guess. Most of her reads are reserved and pretty bland, she mostly just says stuff and doesn't reach a conclusion. There is absolutely no conviction in them.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:27 pm I’m avoiding saying mac is a “confirmed” mason because it’s physically impossible to do. Dom obviously thinks so too. So what if Dom is the mason and wants to lynch Mac who is riding on that free gravy train?

@Dom is there a conflicting view with the general populace that you have towards Mac that no one else has? Do you not believe he is the other mason?

Mac's legacy reads when he was close to getting the noose,

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:41 pm I'm gonna miss end of day.

Legacy civ read on TSP.

I think Nova's little burst of energy after I voted for him was ok.

I'm gonna put my vote on Juliets for self pres.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:51 pmTony is civ

Tony's,

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:07 am Overall I think Juliets and Drago are 1 and 2 on the suspect list. Sabie, Dom, and Jack can share spot 3.
Any questions? Anything at all? A 45 post limit in 48 hours is almost non existent in a game this size this shouldn’t be this quiet.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:17 pm Mac is town I think.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:22 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 5:20 pm I'm not even the one voting for MAc.

I find it weirder that everyone thinks the dude is civ when there is zero evidence to suggest this.

I think it’s mostly just me and Jack.
If everyone thinks he’s civ why are there three votes on him.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:02 pm Okay I’ll trust Mac. [VOTE: drago] aubergine

Someone ask me questions it might help me process this better.


Wait Drago just showed up

Dom wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:58 pm I needed space from this game.

I'm telling you Mac needs to go. Choose to believe me or not.

Who doesn't need to go?

What's your D5 fresh take on Dom and Oreki/Sig?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:29 pm “Interesting”



What is interesting about it?

Lol make me feel good about you then. I had a townread on you mostly for D1 and D3 but if my D3 reads were solid, LC, Juliets and Drago wouldn’t have flipped town.

It being singular lol. I don't know it's weird. Kind of like what caught my eye about one of Sabie's post when she went from "I" singular reffering to her suspicion of Rej to "people couldn't make a case on him 'cause of his IRL".

I'm town, I promise you that. I think I've been my usual town self in burst when I'm around and been trying my best within my time constraints. It kind of suck though, I've been off as well. That said I really believe that that PoE might be a good one. Like the only doubt I have is about Dom and still it's not a very strong doubt. I might be naive but I want to roll with it tbh

I can feel it in my bones

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:55 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:51 pm Jackofhearts2005 What do you think of my PoE? Also since you're in it, what do you think about a Sprit/Sabie and Rej team?

I think you’re clearing Sig and Dom too easily. A player I’ve never played with before looking vaguely townie on D1 is not a read I’m hanging the game on come D5. Dom has been known to emotionally manipulate before as a wolf, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

A Sprityo/Sabie/Rej team is possible. I’m not ruling out you, Sig or Dom being a wolf instead of one of them, either.

I’m not feeling real confident about anybody but Mac tbh.

Fair enough, I'm clearing him 'cause I know Oreki and his D1 was pretty townie for most parts. I've been re-reading him and I end up liking the same stuff over again. He had a great energy and was having some difficulties to putting his thoughts into words but the way he kept fighting through it and trying to figure stuff out was nice. I have no real thoughts on Sig himself, so this is based on me knowing Oreki and his D1.

Yeah Mac mentioned that one lol, but meh that kind of outburst is more often than not a civ losing it. It was building up with his prior interactions with Mac, and also how he's been tunneling him makes it believable. I think this kind of it is pretty cheap.

"Instead of one of them" Interesting

Feel good about me

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 2:43 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:50 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:36 pm I have a reason to remove Sig from the poe but I’m waiting on Sloonei to confirm.

You can go ahead and remove him. An executive order from yours truly

Also I don't think it's kosher to allude to conversation to the host as a reason to handle someone, no matter what it was about.

Where’s the rule about saying I discussed something with the host? Hell, every claim is in effect talking about or lying about a message from the host.

The whole point about not quoting role pms and not publicly messaging the host is so that the host himself doesn’t clear anyone and so if there is something only townies were told via role pm, scum isn’t outted by not knowing about it. Since I’m not quoting or discussing the wording of anything and since Sloonei isn’t having an in thread conversation with me, I think this is fine both from a letter and spirit perspective.

Doesn't it fall under the no info-dumping/no reveals/no hints rules when that discussion is related to clearing/handling someone? Sure it is, but in a normal game not one restricted. I agree that privately PM-ing is always the way to go and discussing it is alright but in an info dump friendly game, or if it's in these kind of games it should be at least not something related to clearing a player.

Anyhow that's just my two cents, we're good though

[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] What do you think of my PoE? Also since you're in it, what do you think about a Sprit/Sabie and Rej team?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:36 pm I have a reason to remove Sig from the poe but I’m waiting on Sloonei to confirm.

You can go ahead and remove him. An executive order from yours truly

Also I don't think it's kosher to allude to conversation to the host as a reason to handle someone, no matter what it was about.

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:34 pm does a dom, sig, sabie constellation make sense?

Sig replaced Oreki, the latter was good during D1 I believe. Dom had an outburst and appears to still be mad, voting without posting and leaving lol. That stuff speaks to me as townlike, the way he called juliets and I stupid and wanted us to lynch him. Don't think he'd emotionally manipulate us. That's your stuff lol.

I'm currently voting Sabie and she's in my PoE with Sprity, you and Jack. Does their constellation make sense to you from your PoV and being in that PoE?

Also why have you been voting Dom last phase? What's your deal with him?

@Sig @Sprityo Stop wasting your time and solve that PoE I gave you. Lend me your power and we shall come back and win.

Sprit you're in it. Sig you're not in it courtesy of Oreki.

All in all, that's a pretty shitty summary. You're basically not paying attention to any of the meat of my posts but skimming skimming to get something that looks bad I guess? Like that "and of course he votes Drago" lol. Wtf is that supposed to mean?

Feels like I'm reading the Suns headline lol.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:20 am Nova‘s day 1 is full of sarcasm and dismissal, all for the express purpose of pushing Rej’s buttons it would appear. I can’t tell if he ever seriously wanted to lynch rej (or whoever we was referring to) the whole of day 1. Day 2 he spends the first half referring to his own gth, the second half about the Mac/juliets wagon. With one or two mentions of drago, and of course he votes drago. Looking at his iso for day 4 it looks like
Nova almost exclusively talked to/about juliets. Coming to say he thinks she’s town. oh man, then juliets died.
Finally he clears mac because of something unrelated to why everyone else thinks mac is town.

Time to make a list!

I was on Drago actually most of D1. There was LC and TSP I believe as well. Sarcasm and 'dismissal' is my bread and butter, that's not a bad thing. Didn't you host Bravo? lol. I

wasn't here D2.

I don't remember what I did D3 but I'm sure I talked about a whole lot of stuff, some dumb some alright. Remember talking about LC, wanted to lynch him and Drago too. Also interacted with him the most at EoD and that was a bummer. What does "of course he votes Drago" means?

Yeah I figured she's town, I was suspecting her at EoD3 and her reaction to Jack's push. Got a good feel for her after those interactions. That 0/4 is just an extra clear and get me to make fun of him although I'm doing just as bad.

Dom voted and left without posting. Lol.

[mention]sig[/mention] That's not the name of everyone still alive though. It's 4 names out of 8, and a PoE of 4 with 3 mafiosos. Pretty good list. Stop hating lol.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:14 am Why was Oreki a townread? I totally missed it.

I don't remember lol. D1 stuff, think he was around only for that stuff

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:07 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 10:23 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:58 pm Nova, Jack and Sabie imo

Huh. What happened to this?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:56 pm Sprityo is almost bad by POE imo.

I have no town reads anymore and am assuming the ones that are towniest seeming are actually the wolves.

Juliets dying kinda confirms one or both of you as bad imo.

Fair enough. I'll stop you from wasting time though, I'm town fam and that's the honest truth lol. Pinky promise.

With that out of the way, let's start with the post I reached townleans on Dom and Sig on top of you. That left me with a PoE of Jack/Sprit/Rej and Sabie. I believe we can clear that PoE and solve the game if it's a correct one.

The only doubt in my townleans lies with Dom.

I'm feeling a remontada. IASIP part 2?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:58 pm Nova, Jack and Sabie imo

Huh. What happened to this?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:56 pm Sprityo is almost bad by POE imo.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:23 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:19 pm Spirt, Jack, Sabie and Rej

It's not me so we need to legit figure this out this time. I'm thinking rej. I've been suspicious of him all game but he had a lot going on irl that kinda prevented people from making a case on him and voting him.

I'm town. I think Mac is townlean 'cause of that 0/4 (lol), being kind of his civself at moments and catching Juliets drift. I think Dom is townlean for calling Juliets and I stupid and for that outburst. I believe Oreki is townlean, making sig the same.

That leaves the 4 names I posted above. If it's not you, do you see a team of Sprit/Jack and Rej? What's making you suspicious of Rej exaclty?

PS: I don't like how you went from "I" on your suspicion of Rej to "prevented people" lol.

Spirt, Jack, Sabie and Rej

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:45 pm Aight I did some catch ups overnight and narrowed the scum team down to Dragomir/Creature/Epignosis and Juliets. Epi/Juliets being the variable player. Dragomir is absolutely obvscum and needs to bite it.

0 out of 4. Mac is town lol.

RIP Juliets. Also lol at it being janitored

I don't break rules

I think Juliets thought otherwise and gave an example no?

I think Juliet is town or at least leaning that way compared to early. I think Oreki was town so sig's gotta be town. One of Mac and Rej should be town, the other is whatever. Leaning towards Mac.

That leaves Sprit, Jack, LC and Sabie + remnant of Mac/Rej

That's 5 names for 3 spots.

linki - lol

Word?

I think I've played one game before with Dom, and he was Town so I've never seen a scum!dom. I don't think he makes that post as scum, can someone with playing experience with him attest to that?

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:41 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 7:37 pm Although I think you're good, caught a glimpse of something that tipped the balance the other way

What did you see?

State secrets

Although I think you're good, caught a glimpse of something that tipped the balance the other way