The Syndicate

Turbup rogered me but good. Not sure if I can ever trust anyone, let alone him, after this chicanery

Thanks for hosting Daisy and Mac. This game broke my mind, body, and spirit but it was fun.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:33 am Best Mafia Team Victory better be a tie between this and FE.

I’m not just saying Easter because I won but ... Scotty’s play in Easter is some of the most diabolical stuff I’ve ever seen. As was Enrique in FWWM. Some of you mfers are legit evil

Golden on the other hand ....

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:31 am I owe Yun qui big apology for being bad, really lol, especially Nutella, I really did just want a friendly lil civ village for us, I even talked shit about my teammates! I'm sorry I was bad

I had a blast with Yun qui, I had a great time hanging out there, and I feel bad cuz I feel like I ruined my trust with y'all

It’s ok Turbup. I’m glad you won

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:17 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:11 pm TFW UR A CIV AND U DEFINITELY R NOT BAD

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:23 pm

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:12 pm @Turnip Head Why should I believe you are a civvie?

Idk dude it's up to you

Yo I LOVE PTA AND THIS MOVIE

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:43 am DH has negan and TH has Daenerys. You have to find your HBO character.

I’m going to post nothing but Tony Soprano GIFs in my next game

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 10:10 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:26 pm

ColinIsCool has been killed by Niska.

LMAO

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:59 pm Ok. We cool then. Goodnight Speedchuck ~<3

Goodnight sweet prince.

Mayap you and I can share shrimp again soon.

Are you scum, speedchuck?

AMA not drunk yet but today has made that the mission. Hoo boy.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:36 pm

SokothQultuq wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:36 am I've been looking through DDL's Iso since I've seen a few that are hedging their bets on that train.

The only thing that stands out is there is a lack of real substance. Like they seem all over the place, helping one moment, defending in another. And rarely really lashing out at anyone accept maybe a couple of times. I'm curious if you guys have more information on why DDL is the focus of your attention. Maybe I'm missing something. Anyone else see anything substantial on DDL that hasn't been pointed out yet?

Does this or does this not (read the whole thing and then reread the large part) look like SokothQultuq is fishing for some kind of information role who may have pegged his teammate, DDL?

Yes

Golden wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:10 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 4:01 pm You putting Glorf on isn’t the same as TH putting himself on. The risk for him is far greater than it is for you.

PS, btw...

Why is "risking yourself" a town move if you're town?

ColinIsDrinking and doesn’t understand the question but stfu TH could easily be lopping off me and nova first before he put himself on the thing. Look if you’re gonna insist everyone on your crew is town even though they all look like shit coming out of Sokoth’s lynch I’m gonna insist TH is doing good

You putting Glorf on isn’t the same as TH putting himself on. The risk for him is far greater than it is for you.

I’m going to move to Wilgy for now, but I think more discussion on INH will be a good thing.

[VOTE: WILGY] aubergine

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:51 am I don't know why INH has to defend himself for not wanting to lynch SQ. It's not like we had a great case. I hardly know what the case was. I was saving Luna.

If INH is good, this gives me TMI vibes. People have to defend themselves in this game because we don’t know who anybody is, and the merits of the case are irrelevant — it’s who does what with it that matters.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:36 am As for today's lynch, I probably won't have the chance to vote until late in the day. The three people I'm looking at, excepting myself, DH, Enrique, and Glorf, as I feel pretty good about all of them, are Wilgy, Lapluie, and TH. Right now, I'm leaning towards Wilgy. Silent Wilgys make me nervous. I'd rather he was loudly doing crazy shit, which'd make me more comfortable about him. Plus, as others have pointed out, SQ acted kinda weird towards him.

TH is someone I'd like to dig into the ISO of. He irked me earlier in the game because I thought that he was using his irreverent schtick as a way to avoid seriously engaging with the thread, and I'd like to see if that pattern continued.

Lapluie is a blank slate. Why not Lapluie? Can anyone give any reasons? Even if he's a civilian, he's an utterly unhelpful one. Probably the safest vote out of the three.

Lapluie is Mac 2. And I think why not Mac is, well, we have a bunch of actual cases and reasons to vote for people, whereas a vote there isn’t specifically for anything.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:42 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:32 am Turbup has put himself on the poll every night.

Do you know his reasoning for that? Just to keep you all from getting lynched?

I think so. He townreads us, same as Golden townreads his folks. Obviously one of them has to be wrong, but I also townread my crew (those that are posting anyway).

Turbup has put himself on the poll every night.

I will switch to DrWilgy if I have to save Turbup. Hands off my captain.

Folks, Turbup could easily have put Nova on the poll or me on the poll and rode the bad feelings folks have all the way to pound town, but he didn’t. He’s putting himself there. He’s not scum.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:41 pm You know it's really annoying to see people calling me "fucking terrible" and "inconsistency and contradictory".

Yes my playstyle is loose and crazy. I change my votes all the time. I do things for personal reasons and don't bother to explain them. I post whatever random thoughts come to my mind without worrying if that's consistent with my previous posts or whatever. I don't care, I like to be free to do whatever I feel like, specially because I'm a way more controlled person irl and here is where I get to be random.

You wanna point out that I'm being scummy, fine. Look at my posts and find for things that look like lies, or fabricated, or artificial, or buddying, or bussing, or things that are, you know, actually related to a guy who got a baddie role card and must pretend he's a civ. But don't say I'm bad because I'm being random. I am random.

/rant

Could it be? An “if you’re gonna call me scum, at least get it right” post in the wild?

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:45 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:42 pm I want more talk on INH. Why isn’t he bad in the context of yesterday’s lynch?

Speed made a case on inh yesterday that I admit that because I only skimmed the day I never found. Now you have one. I haven't myself felt anything off with inh, but what's the case?

Check in my ISO to where I recap the D2 lynch, but essentially he seemed to have been misdirecting from the Sokoth lynch and looks pretty teammate compatible.

I want more talk on INH. Why isn’t he bad in the context of yesterday’s lynch?

Nova attacked me with similar tone in Ancient Greece. He was an unaligned indie at that point and I was scum but I think he was genuinely hunting at that stage.

Looking at who is on that wagon though gives me second thoughts

I can vibe with Enrique lynch. I still don’t like what I saw from him; he didn’t do anything yesterday, though, so he wasn’t a focus of my recap.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:59 pm Eh I don't put much stock for or against the nova conspiracy theory. A vote is a vote, it may carry ill intent but it also contains WIFOM.

I kind of not feel so good about nova yesterday. I wanna lynch either him or TH.

Who are your top townreads?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:47 pm P.S To nip any "DH could be SQ's teammate" shit in the bud. I put the fucker on the poll, even if I didn't want people to vote for my crew if we were teammates I would've just put a civ on the poll instead.

Anyway those are my two cents.

This is smart btw. I upgrade DH to townish.

Poll when?

Okay. Let’s see if others agree with that.

I could see Nova being bad similar to Scotty in Easter where he started the Choutas wagon that mistakenly developed. But I dunno. I think there is better fruit to be had in seeing how people reacted as it became real.

In fact, can we get a show of hands for people who believe in a campaign against Golden’s captaincy, and those that don’t?

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:08 pm Nova was on sokoth early, and sokoth was not one of the leading wagons. When sokoth took the lead, nova tried to divert others to seeing Luna as bad while not being willing to swing that way himself.

This has all the hallmarks of distancing becoming bussing to me. It’s like something I would do.

It could be, but why go the distance to distance when there’s almost nothing from Sokoth? Why not seize onto one of yesterday’s major cases? Nova looks very genuine to me so if he is bad then kudos.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:05 pm Colin, what’s the similarity between this and LC in courage? I see none.

And don’t come at me telling me I’m taking a back seat. I’m one of the few who has driven conversation.

I also fully disagree with your town reads. Nova and TH look extremely likely as sokoth teammates to me. Sokoths votes in the captaincy thing would fit the pattern perfectly, he voted I believe for TH, DH and glorf along with inh. It furthers my belief there was an intentional plot against me.

TH or DH or both would easily be the type to deliberately attempt to block my captaincy.

You did a similar “not paying attention, probably won’t vote” thing there at one point I think. Tonally, yesterday you looked just like you did in Courage.

I just think you’re being kind of over-the-top with this “plot” thing too ... if you are town, you are laser-focused on personal slights against you and I think it’s clouding your judgment.

Also please read along with Day 2 if you have time, with my posts up there on the side, and see if it’s accurate. I make mistakes and may have different interpretations of events than you. It’s not deliberate.

Ooos, that is “best” to worst. Big error, my bad

Now. Draw your own conclusions from what happened yesterday. But here’s who I think looks good: Nova, Nutella, DFaraday, TH,

I think DH could be bad, but his attitude about being focused on the crew seems genuine. Epi is null based on yesterday but I otherwise townread him.

Here’s who I think looks bad: Glorfindel and Golden come out teammate compatible from Sokoth’s reads of them. Golden also appears to be doing a lot of the same stuff he did in Courage re: taking a backseat and he accepts this lynch in a way reminiscent of (though not exactly like) Long Con’s in that game. I also don’t understand his fixation on TH, which was also evident in Courage. Speed’s question about Nova, as well as his actions later on, could be him dancing around the lynch or attempting to find an alternative without looking like he is. INH’s defense looks bad for him. Luna actually loses points. I think he may have been distancing while ALSO being open to not actually killing her. DDL’s dismissal of the vote is bad.

From worst to “best:”

GLORFINDEL
DDL
GOLDEN
LUNA
SPEED
INH

I realize I also don’t come out great. That’s fine. Lynch me if you want, but after that, this is your map to the next scum.

3/3. Also the vote tallies obviously aren’t perfect if people don’t post them.

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Speed votes DDL after spending a lot of time casing INH (3 in lead)

Owner votes Luna (3-3)

Golden hedges to probably not voting, but maybe TH or Wilgy

Colin votes Wilgy but says he likes DDL wagon potentially (2)

DFaraday says Sokoth could be bad, but also Luna and not DDL

Colin seconds DFaraday re: Sokoth

SOKOTH gives us big read post: Glorf good, DDL good, Wilgy non/bad, DFaraday non, Kyle lean bad for “wizard stuff,” Luna bad, Lapluie non, Marmot non, Speed either/or, prefers Luna or Wilgy for a vote.

Sokoth votes Luna but opens himself up to a “swing” (4 lead)

Nutella says she’s uncomfortable with Sokoth

Nutella votes Sokoth (4-4)

Luna votes Wilgy to save herself (4 Luna, 4 Sokoth, 3 Wilgy)

DFaraday votes Sokoth (5)

DDL says Sokoth vote is a counterwagon

Luna says she’s tempted to vote Sokoth but asks for the case

Golden puts Sokoth, Wilgy and TH together as suspects, endorses Sokoth lead

Owner says votes on Sokoth formed fast, saying he’s thus probably town

DH votes Luna, complains a lot about the hot potato (5-5)

Speed votes Sokoth (6-5)

Kyle calls Sokoth’s defense of himself earlier “theatrical”

Speed asks if he should switch to Wilgy, Golden says “go with your gut”

Kyle votes Sokoth (7-5)

2/3

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DDL votes Luna (1s)

INH suspects DDL and Nova and TH, calls Sokoth case dumb

INH votes Luna (2)

TH says Sokoth looks worse than Nova

Nova slightly backs away from Sokoth case

Nutella puts Sokoth near bottom of rainbow list

SOKOTH asks about Wilgy’s activity

Colin says DDL lynch is best

Speed votes Marmot (1) (Luna at 2)

Luna votes DDL (2-2 tied)

INH puts Sokoth in deep green on list

Nutella votes Speed (1)

1/3
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DH votes DDL (1)

Nova votes Sokoth (1-1)

DH defends Sokoth from lynch saying don’t go after his guys

TH invites a counterwagon to DDL in general, possibly Sokoth

Epi votes Wilgy (1-1-1)

Glorfindel hard defends Sokoth

SOKOTH offers vague wishy washy reads on Glorf and Golden

Golden sees these votes, notes to look into Sokoty, but expresses dislike of TH

SOKOTH says he doesn’t understand the TH wagon

Colin says Sokoth’s reaction to Nova seemed fake, but leans DDL

DDL soft defends Sokoth for being new

Speed asks “Is Nova usually this aggressive?”

D2 PBP incoming

Also, Luna's not bad.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:55 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:54 pm I'm voting

Spoiler: show

DRWILGY

because I have a good enough feeling about Epignosis and find his position agreeable, but might change to DDL. I keep going back and forth on him but that's where I'm at.

Hmhmhmhmhmhmhmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Say what you got to say bruv

DFaraday wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:54 pm Also Sokoth is not reading any better to me. He's being overly defensive without really giving a satisfactory defense.

Really agree with this point — can anyone with previous experience of Sokoth's play weigh in?

I don't know why I put that in spoilers, oops.

I'm voting because I have a good enough feeling about Epignosis and find his position agreeable, but might change to DDL. I keep going back and forth on him but that's where I'm at.

I’m on a little overnight trip so I’m not sure if I’ll be around for large portions of the rest of the day. DDL is probably the vote I can support the most at this point; he feels very, very different as a hunter than I’ve seen in previous games and his reaction under pressure felt way different compared to, say, when I butted heads with him in U-Pick.

The only other thing I have to offer is to lynch someone who hasn’t been around like lap, if we can’t find a wagon anybody truly likes, but (sorry lap)

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:33 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:27 am So does anyone on Soneji’s crew think there may have been a rat among you last night? Did he say anything that would have made him a target? Because it seems like a strange choice to me, unless the idea was to really give us nothing to work with.

We were discussing with the host last night, and it turns out that scumkills are not limited to the ship that the scum are on. Nor night actions. Just public chat. So there's that.

Ok, good to know — I meant more if he alluded to anything that might make him a target.

So does anyone on Soneji’s crew think there may have been a rat among you last night? Did he say anything that would have made him a target? Because it seems like a strange choice to me, unless the idea was to really give us nothing to work with.