The Syndicate

I had no idea what I was doing the entire time.

You, Wilgy, maybe TH. I’m basically throwing my name in because at least I know I’m not scum. Regardless of who has it, we have our work cut out for us tomorrow.

I will hear everyone out.

Give me the flamethrower.

BTW, my PF Chang's the other night was lovely, thanks for asking everyone.

This game has really matched the mood of The Thing because I'm starting to think every one of you are scum and I'm the only townie.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:31 pm I think that's what he wanted you to think. No civ should treat his fellow civs that way.

I mean, maybe. I didn't delve that deep into DH's ISO but if he is bad he's just steamrolling everybody by doing the most ostensibly pro-town things in the whole game while nobody else steps up to the plate.

I will say in Eloh's defense that I was a little irritated by DH's schtick when he came into Day 2 telling people to do shit, but it seemed like it was helpful at the time once people did it.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:11 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:57 pm

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:38 pm Jack's "case" against me is itself pretty goddamn surface. Like I said before, it's all either dismissive gut reads or stuff about me not "pursuing reads" and "silently holding onto" opinions which can be easily explained by me not having a ton of mafia time over the time period that JoH is complaining about. I cannot see how anyone other than JoH can really see merit in it.

Colin, what about this post is compelling enough to you to merit scumreading me and townreading JoH because of it?

The part about holding onto the suspicion without really acting on it, I guess, seems to resonate. That's how I feel about your approach to me as well and it's generally the kind of thing that doesn't seem town, which I think is a point I made earlier.

It's not like I disregarded my own suspicions. I'm not really sure what you mean by "really acting on it." That's one of those nonsense terms that's hard to actually define. Are you annoyed that I didn't storm into the thread and SUPATOWN all over people, making case against case to get my suspicions lynched? That's fairly stupid as barely anyone has engaged in that kind of behavior for the duration of this game, including yourself. I posted comparatively less about my suspicions during a couple of phases because I was busy in real life, and didn't have oodles of time to post. I don't think that's a smoking gun RE: scumminess.

It feels as if you've been voicing a suspicion, then putting it down, then picking it back up when it's convenient. I'll give you that maybe it's just a difference in approach/playstyle between us, but I think scum are more likely to do that because they A. don't particularly care which townies get lynched, and B. aren't making actual cases (99% of the time, this game again is sliiiightly different)

Eloh, who do you think is bad?

Does anybody else have thoughts toward Wilgy? Is it possible to have thoughts toward Wilgy?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:14 pm Reason I'm voting Jack is cuz I felt like he half-assed yesterday by his own standards. I watched Jack hunt speedchuck down like a bloodhound in Mega Man. To see him sort of nonchalantly dispatch him here rings false. There was fire but no fuel

I sort of see that. I don't really know what scum Jack looks like I think?

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:38 pm Jack's "case" against me is itself pretty goddamn surface. Like I said before, it's all either dismissive gut reads or stuff about me not "pursuing reads" and "silently holding onto" opinions which can be easily explained by me not having a ton of mafia time over the time period that JoH is complaining about. I cannot see how anyone other than JoH can really see merit in it.

Colin, what about this post is compelling enough to you to merit scumreading me and townreading JoH because of it?

The part about holding onto the suspicion without really acting on it, I guess, seems to resonate. That's how I feel about your approach to me as well and it's generally the kind of thing that doesn't seem town, which I think is a point I made earlier.

Gonna go and probably can't do TH but I have no idea how to read TH to begin with and will follow them to the ends of the Earth regardless, so,

[VOTE: INH] aubergine

Jack

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:37 pm Like if I’m scum and the only way I can die is to be lynched and there’s a mechanic to prevent that, I’m trying to use that mechanic as often as possible.

Yes, getting the flamethrower can be protown but it is certainly not a thing only townies do.

Notice that Jack isn't doing that?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:43 pm I’m fine with not having a hall pass but anyone who uses reasoning like “Jack is much quieter than usual. Therefore he is scum” should be torched for opportunism because I’m generally super active as a scum or 3P player. I’m fact, SK is one of my very favorite roles and if anything, I’d be extra engaged if I was bad.

I feel this, and tonally, it feels earnest. The MYLO confusion that took place a few posts later does too fwiw.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:45 pm INH’s iso is super short. He has opinions and he has reasoning for his opinions but they’re all pretty surface and mostly two phases old.

Like he’s after me for the Speedchuck burn but he’s made exactly one post about Speed, which was on Day 1. Him silently holding onto this read for three days and making a push based on it feels disingenuous.

His Colin case is okay. Like it’s not convincing but it feels okay. He (in his own words) “lazily” votes Colin again and that’s about it. He doesn’t really pursue the read.

I’d say maybe 60-70% chance INH is scum.

Yeah okay, I like this a lot.

Jack's in the town basket and INH is downgraded to scum basket.

INH

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:36 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:45 am Kinda feel like speed was trying to get the flamethrower and do that democracy thing because he’s bad and wanted town cred for a long con

But Long Con isn't even playing this game?

Real talk tho: Speed's D0 campaigning strike me as exactly what civ Speed would do. He's my strongest read right now. All of my other opinions are clouded in ambiguity and he-said, she-said.

Knowing what we do know about speed, this (and other posts surrounding it singing the praises of speed) seem kind of TMIy. On the other hand, in plenty of other games (Courage and the one that ran simultaneous with that, I think?) I've seen INH assign town reads as town much more than scum reads.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:31 pm I guess I just, I dunno expect more from Colin as a civilian. And by more, I mean literally anything of substance. A literal iota of effort towards solving the game. Instead, there's shrug emojis and flip-flops.
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This feels like a genuine assessment to me. My participation ain't what she used to be unfortunately, but if scumINH thought I was scum, I don't think he would go so hard in the paint against me, unless he reaaaaally felt like he had to bus to get ahead.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:23 pm I keep reading this post over and over again, and it just keeps not making sense.

OTOH, INH does this thing a lot (look at his posts against me) where he waves away things as "not making sense" and that's the end of that ... even if it seems to clearly make sense at face-value. That seems more like a scum trying to get points-against wherever he can more than a townie who truly struggles to understand what people are saying.

I also don't feel good about how INH keeps mentioning me as a suspect and went to the effort of casing me earlier, but hasn't done much about it since. When I think someone is bad, I will tunnel them relentlessly (see: nova, speed) if I really am convinced. But INH does not seem convinced.

INH is a toss-up. I need to re-evaluate what I saw in Jack's posts about him to be sure.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:02 am

DH...when will you drop the bullying act and act like a real leader? When you're actually civ? Okay...show me THAT.

The bullying act is something you made up.

Raise your hand if you've ever felt victimized by DharmaHelper

Elohcin

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:57 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:42 am [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
because he hasn't shown up yet, so why not?

And what if he ia civ? That's a stupid reason to vote him so soon. Give the guy a chance and go after someone you think is bad. Unless you are bad and are just trying to get rid of people you think could be civ. Maybe that's it

This is the root of Eloh's tunneling on Luna, and I don't know exactly how I feel about it. Seems like a stretch to me — that "Unless" is doing a lot of work in that sentence to get to a conclusion that is supported by a breadcrumb of a suspicion, but not enough (for me personally anyway) to say "gotcha!"

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:47 pm

poutanko wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:35 am Is it normal for Lunalee to post something and then no continuation on whatever she posted before?

Not normally. And the weirder thing is that she came in right after you said that and began talking. And in her post, she says she voted Mac bc she didn't know who to vote for. I'm not sure I trust that or her.

Further developing against Luna, this is more reasonable.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:31 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:05 am

Elohcin wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:17 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:54 pm Calling dibs on casing Elohcin.

I will ask again...why are you so hell-bent on me? You aren't even around here much and you wanna keep coming after me with no explanations. Stop being weird and get your head in the game.

Because I think you are bad. What does "you aren't even around here much" mean? Does that fact mean that I shouldn't have any scum read nor vote or go after anyone?

I'm also pretty sure I've been here as much as you have, if not more.

You are like a kid saying he doesn't like the dinner set before him. Mom asks, "how do you know you don't like it?" Kid say, "Because I don't." Taste the damn food and you may like it, or at least have REASONS why you don't. You don't have reasons for thinking I am bad. At least ISO me and see. You may find you think I'm good.

Really can't decide how I feel about this either. It sounds like that scumtell of getting frustrated with/arguing the logic of an accusation rather than addressing why it's not correct. (I know that might not make any sense, because I can't figure out exactly how to phrase it, but I think at least some of you will know what I mean.) "If you're going to peg me as scum, you better do it for the right reasons, not bad ones."

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:31 pm For all of you wondering... I've been real with y'all this whole time. My thoughts/posts of luna were not fake. I am not often good with finding mafia. I really thought I had her pegged this time. Now that she turned out bad, I feel like I'm starting over and it seems a bit daunting. I really think nova is just a misguided civ, as I've said before, so I can't go after him. My gut tells me DH is bad and his whole "Do what Negan says" crap felt like a baddie trying to get control of the thread. I didn't mention this back when because I you all seemed to trust and do whatever thr hell he wanted. I may emd up voting for him today. But we'll see. We have time.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:41 pm So each time a kill is missed, it can only be cause scum shot scum right?

So there’s almost an actual mafia at this point.

It could also mean inactive mafia.

I don't like the "I didn't mention this back ..." portion of the paragraph. Regardless of who has the flamethrower, I would think a townie who doesn't would want to get any and all suspicions out on the table, since you never know if you're going to get snuffed — ESPECIALLY if someone you apparently don't trust has the keys.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:43 am The more civs we lose, the more I think I'm right. Can we just stop and think for a minute that the people we think we can trust (whoever that is for each of you) could be that bad guys. What I mean is....maybe we should kind of start from scratch, re-evaluate. Who do you trust most? Vote THAT person.

My concern with this sort of thinking is that Eloh doesn't appear to be practicing what she preaches.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:14 pm it is 10:14 and someone is mowing their lawn!

This is criminal!

I have felt decently about Eloh all game but this ISO has me changing my mind. I think she can join Wilgy as a suspect and on stronger grounds.

Worth noting: with the level of inactivity Wilgy seems to be presenting, the first kill on N1 could have been an unsent PM.

Wilgy has 5 posts. The main one is this:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:53 am

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:10 am On a serious note, the mafia is gonna organize votes to give it to them

Our best option is talking it out and picking three people we should give it to

First post that caught my eye. This post is horseshit.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:52 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:43 pm Why do you want the flamethrower chuck?

I know that I am civ, and I have been force-fed humility over the last few games I've played with this alignment. I have purposed myself to go along with the thread consensus, instead of trusting my gut and striking out vigilante-style.
Quite frankly, I can see a lot of players yelling "None of you know what you're talking about!" and just roasting their own biggest suspect.

So I want the flamethrower because I don't trust you guys to trust the rest of you guys. Collectively. If that makes sense.

This post is horseshit for similar reasons. "I want to win" is the same statement here. Trusting only yourself is a concept built into the game mechanics. Choices that cause you to trust others is what brings about truths and lies.

At this point I blind voted Sprityo, saw that I was voting in tangent with TH and vocalized the word "fuck."

Poutanko... What strange entity are you? Are you an astrological horror from another relm?

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:49 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:48 pm Nice reads DH but why is it alphabetized til Elo Mac and Wilgy are tacked on at the end?

Cuz Eloh's ISO link on the main page is boinked and Doc and Mac are doofus-reads.

And i guess DH is civ. Dumb.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:01 pm Then luna votes me bc of DHs reasons. I'd be surprised if she is good. I'm voting for her.

Why though?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:29 pm Elo vs Luna feels like town vs town

Why though?

And that is the end of day 1. Interesting. For some reason I don't feel good about Eloh, cant pin point it though. Perhaps I dislike I didn't feel where her thoughts were coming from was genuine... But I think that came from a lack of in depth linking and explaining which is normal for Eloh.

Sprityo is bad. I'm leaving my vote there for now... Even though he's a Komaeda fan too... Ouif...

I'm not sure if there is much to be gleamed here either way. The quibbling about mechanics seems like something that is NAI, but overall, this isn't a post that does much in the way of assigning alignment or taking stances. He doesn't feel good about Eloh for ???, and is more concerned with posing questions in all directions with no clear determination as to why. Wilgy is definitely a candidate, imo, but not one I feel great about.

DDL

I thought DDL in Firefly was scum for a week, and I was gravely mistaken. DDL in that game was kind of all over the place, changing his mind and doing things that generally appeared uncalculated. Does that meta hold up here?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:02 am Oh I just realized self-voting is forbidden.

Hmm

random.org gave me Dr. Wilgy.

This to me seems totally earnest. A random vote is so poorly reasoned that I don't know if a scum runs the risk of exposing themselves as literally saying "IDK, whomever"

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:45 pm I don't give a damn about your thought process for choosing who to kill.

I care about the fact you didn't show any interest in reading who was civ and who was mafia.

When people were having that discussion, you avoided it. And when they prompted you for reads, you refused.

I feel the townie conviction in this.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:43 pm Nova feels strangely absent I think he's normally a bigger pain in the ass.

INH, Colin, Eloh are all a big blob of unreadableness.

Need to see more of Jack and Wilgy but I liked what was given so far.

Sprityo is bordering on too scummy to be scum status. He's self-destructing. I hate when people who do that because it's hardly alignment indicative yet leaves us with no options.

Normally I'm not a fan of reads-lists where someone rattles off a bunch of civs (see the post preceding this one), some who-knows and one scum because I know I've made that post as scum before — it's way too easy to TMI and give town credit to people who are town, and way harder to voice grievances against people that you know aren't. However, I can empathize with that feeling in this game to an extent, and the scum don't even necessarily know who is and isn't scum anyway, so DDL actually gets cred here.

There's not that much else there which brings the possibility of scum lurking beneath the surface of the thread — something I think that is very likely, given nobody's being pressed very much — but for now, townlean on DDL, don't flamethrow.

DharmaHelper

I am generally suspicious of any player that tries to position themselves as a town-leader for reasons that I don't fully understand (maybe I should start seeing my counselor again and ask her about it.) However, in the context of this game (low-posting, nobody else around to challenge the throne) there really is no need for a scumDH to act in such a manner. I could be getting fooled, but I'll try to find some posts to demonstrate why I think DH is town going into this ISO.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:26 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:16 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:59 am P.S Killing inactives particularly with this set-up is a great idea please do it.

Why particularly with this set-up?

Because there are no power roles meaning the only tools we have are in the thread, working together to suss out the assimilated. If someones NOT here doing that, they're weighing us down.

And if they happen to be bad and they miss a kill, we're not stuck wondering if a kill didn't go through because of an inactive or because of a friendly-fire scenario, which when THAT happens, dramatically shifts the game.

This is an example of extremely pro-town mechanical thinking. A scum that realizes this would probably keep that to themselves so as to not cede the advantage, no matter how much it makes them look town.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:17 pm pls participate.

We have seen, very recently in fact, that a scum DH will not act solely in the interests of game health. The team in Mega Man (DH among them) was perfectly happy to let inactivity take its toll on the town so long as it smoothed their path to victory. A quiet thread is great for scum because if everybody's lurking, nobody's lurking and nobody's accusing you of anything — but it's pretty awful for a townie who wants to lynch scum.

I remembered doing this that DH has the flamethrower so I'm not even going to go past page 1 of this ISO. I may revisit at future phases, but unless somebody can provide a case otherwise, DH is locktown right now.

I will strongly do my best to case people first thing tomorrow morning.

I’m sure INH or somebody will say I’m flip flopping on him so let me just say I came into the thread thinking Jack may be bad but his posts recently changed that view and caused me to rethink INH.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:51 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:48 pm Feel better about Jack after that. Thinking INH next.

Then vote for moi

Why should I trust you?

Feel better about Jack after that. Thinking INH next.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:28 pm Quin’s recent posts feel forced. Idk I’m drunk at Pf Chang’s

Like to elaborate it looks as if he came in and thought Well I gotta do some stuff or people will get suspicious and then parroted some talking points about Eloh that had already been raised

Quin’s recent posts feel forced. Idk I’m drunk at Pf Chang’s

I think speed has a reputation as a very formidable player and generally not someone you want to have on the other team. The scum in Fire Emblem killed rabbit N1 solely because they were afraid speed would replace in against them.

DH - that read list was a spectrum, from “most good” to “most bad”. Also, I thought we couldn’t double dip the flamethrower but it appears that isn’t the case.

As for the exercise, my bad, I thought I addressed it. I would have killed either Speed or DH due to largest perceived threat, or someone totally unlinked to me at that point like Quin.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:00 pm Answer: Nope, Mafia Elohcin is not really more aggressive. But then, this is more of a SK game. And I'm not looking for an indy Eloh for hours.

You read an Eloh scum game, evaluated the content, synthesizedva point and wrote this post all in 4 minutes?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:45 am

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:32 am

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:28 am Looking at the two nightkills so far ... they don’t make much sense to me. Poutanko was new and Nova had not done anything to become a top townleader. It’s almost as if the killers are choosing targets with the goal of finding their teammates? Which begs the question as to why a player like Jack, Speed or DH haven’t been targeted yet. Unless they have.

If I'd been targeted for a kill I'dve died, so it ain't me fam.

Why do you even have me and Jack on this list, Colin? Jack hasn't even read the whole game and I'm not exactly supahtowning.

You’re the biggest threats, imo, and on N1, that’s a compelling candidate for a kill, especially in this set-up. Doesn’t matter what happened after.

Looking at the two nightkills so far ... they don’t make much sense to me. Poutanko was new and Nova had not done anything to become a top townleader. It’s almost as if the killers are choosing targets with the goal of finding their teammates? Which begs the question as to why a player like Jack, Speed or DH haven’t been targeted yet. Unless they have.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:44 am Colin's exercise yesterday rubbed me the wrong way so I'm looking his way atm. idk if he'd kill the person he was planning on tunneling tho, seems counterproductive

Why did it rub you the wrong way?

And, yeah, I wouldn’t do that.

I voted Eloh, I like the cut of her jib.

I strongly suspect we’re being bamboozled by a consensus townread. They were the target on N1, and they are bad. DH or Speed or Jack.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:08 am I think the focus needs to shift. I think y'all truat those you shouldn't.

Such as?

The other side of that question, I guess, is that it sorta points to Wilgy being scum, but I’m not totally comfortable with that.

Good

ColinIsCool
DharmaHelper
Sprityo
Turnip Head
Elohcin
Dragon D. Luffy
DrWilgy
insertnamehere
Quin
Jack
Speedchuck
Nova

Bad

Been a while since Relentless Tunnel Colin has made an appearance, but it’s back on the menu.

I wish more people had popped in but, yeah, nova’s answer is very scummy imo.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:28 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:01 pm INH didn’t answer despite multiple posts, indicating reluctance.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:10 pm If anyone thinks I should change my mind, now would be a great time to make your case

Kill nova.

No

Why not?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:26 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:59 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:52 pm Hmm tough question. I wouldn't have killed Pou and DH. TH probably not also. Other than that not too sure, pretty much every one else would have been fair game.

Bad answer. Not a tough question for a civ because what does a civ have to lose by thinking like a scum? Basically salad and a non-committal answer for no reason. Scum

This is dumb. It is a tough question because I'm not scum and I can't think like one on demand. As I said with the exception of those 3, I'd kill anybody.

I think it’s pretty easy to say “I’d kill JJJ because he’s supertown” or “I’d kill Big Rick because it would confuse the hell out of everybody.” Or any other reason you may have had as scum to kill someone that you can use to relate to this game’s dynamic should you be town. But it’s only hard if you actually ARE scum and struggle to answer in a way that is believable since you don’t want to admit to your actual thinking ...

INH didn’t answer despite multiple posts, indicating reluctance.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:10 pm If anyone thinks I should change my mind, now would be a great time to make your case

Kill nova.

Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:56 pm I would have probably killed wilgy. He doesn't usually post much or bring a lot to the table. No offense.

Decent answer but again, a bandwagon of sorts.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:23 pm I prolly woulda killed jack ; fearsome as town but also if he was on my team I'd wanna know about it.

Good answer; good reason.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:57 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:25 pm Ooh wait here’s an idea

Let’s assume N1 was scum-unknowingly-attempting-to-NK-scum

Who would you have nightkilled if you were scum, and why?

I suggested this earlier.

Would have killed Wilgy as well. If I am in total control of the kill, it's going to a non-participant.

Good answer marred slightly by DH offering the same exact rationale.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:52 pm Hmm tough question. I wouldn't have killed Pou and DH. TH probably not also. Other than that not too sure, pretty much every one else would have been fair game.

Bad answer. Not a tough question for a civ because what does a civ have to lose by thinking like a scum? Basically salad and a non-committal answer for no reason. Scum

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:33 pm I would've killed WIlgy. Worst case scenario he dies and as he's a low-poster and the least active player, nothing from D1 would've tied me to it.

Well-reasoned answer. Civ.