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by Lunalee
Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:03 pm
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Topic: Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 3: Time to kick back and rewiiiind

speedchuck wrote: Thu Jun 21, 2018 11:01 pm LET ME KNOW IF I FORGOT ANY RESULTS
um yeah, I'm still vanished...
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:05 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Quin wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:57 pm [VOTE: lunalee] aubergine
gosh quin, I might not have won the lynch with out your vote, bud :P
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:56 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Quin wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:55 pm cos guess what y'all?

im the real cop's message boy. and i sure as hell ain't working for you, lunalee.
haha Quin, are you really now
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:48 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Hey guys. sorry I've been away. It looks like I'm a gonner, so I'm going to just throw this out there. I have a cop role. I checked sig last night, and saw he was town.
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:28 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 0: It's 'TIME' to get started

Golden wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:23 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:01 pmGolden's entire analysis is predicated on sig being bad. In everything I've seen from Lunalee, it's as though she takes for granted that sig was bad, and she knew it. Because if someone wants to have a go at me for my interactions with someone who has an unknown alignment, I'll flip tables. I see no table flipping. :suspish:

But please, discuss the other section (or this one) if you will.
I'm not persuaded that Luna is a table-flipping kind of person, and I also don't see anything which suggests pre-knowledge that sig is bad (as opposed to just presuming it, which is sort of necessary to respond to my case), but do you see something in particular that I'm missing?
I didn't assume sig was bad. And I still have no idea, since he's vanished. But given his role, (reseting the day lynch), it sort of makes him look town.
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:19 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:17 pm
Lunalee wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:16 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:13 pm *A cover up for what?
A cover-up for a more sinister role.
And "doctor" was the best anybody could do?
I don't know, you claimed doctor too, right? Why?
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:16 pm
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Topic: Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:13 pm *A cover up for what?
A cover-up for a more sinister role.
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:14 pm
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Topic: Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Spacedaisy wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:49 pm Fine. You all win, I'll do what you want. Against my own feelings on this. [VOTE: lunalee] aubergine

You have someone who has claimed openly to not be civ aligned, and you want to believe them and possibly allow them the space to do what they want. We'll see how this goes. I hope you all are right.
Someone holding a gun to your head, spacedaisy? blink twice if you need help.
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:12 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Quin wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:38 pm
Lunalee wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:01 am
Quin wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:27 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:18 pm Do we really think there are three town-aligned doctors in this game?
nah
This bothers me too. Wasn't it MacDougal, Scotty, and Epi? One of them may get my vote today.
meh. they don't have to be bad.
So what's the point of claiming doctor then, unless it's a cover-up?
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:42 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

sprityo wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:38 pm i also group turniphead with luna in that they havent done anything worthy to not be lynched as far as ive read
Welcome sprityo! Good to see you too :P
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:01 am
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Quin wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:27 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:18 pm Do we really think there are three town-aligned doctors in this game?
nah
This bothers me too. Wasn't it MacDougal, Scotty, and Epi? One of them may get my vote today.
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:54 am
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 12:34 am I would lynch either lapluie or INH. I stand by my Zeph thing and lapluie is tied to that. INH needs to work on his script. Also, I don't think he's a civilian. He called himself "not a threat to the civilians" and no amount of shit he can throw at me in his script means that's the same thing as addressing the civilians in the third person. He called himself "not a threat to the civilians."
Really? That long INH post sort of convinced me that even if he's not town, he at least has a townie win-con.
by Lunalee
Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:48 am
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 0: It's 'TIME' to get started

Golden wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:03 am A brief Luna/sig interactive iso. Luna has a total of 19 posts before Quin dropped his bombshell, including:
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:22 am @sig , what's with that "poker face" smiley you keep using?

:suspish:
Lunalee wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:04 pm @sig , @Quin , if you're going to self-vote, at least give us a good reason to support you or not.
Lunalee wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:20 pm
sig wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:35 pm
speedchuck wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:33 pm Night is half over and I'm missing a loooooot of night actions.
Never submit night actions that's my policy. Why hide your actions? I never do I'll tell you straight up what I plan to do. Which is why a vote for sig is a vote for open night actions. No more hiding no more fear no more control. Vote Sig a player you can trust.
Sig, your campaigning is gold. I'm voting for you. I believe I can count on you to sign that Bill of Rights with the most beautiful signature

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
Lunalee wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:08 pm Haha, bravo sig. :clap:
These quotes account for my 'gut feel' of luna being a teammate of sig. They have a 'team banter' vibe to them.

After Quin's bombshell, Luna's next two posts are:
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Lunalee wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:48 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:45 pm
sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:40 pmEither way the idea of lynching me since I said I couldn't be lynched doesn't seem townie.
And this is complete bullshit

I called your bluff and now you're worried.

Glad I called it.

I think there's a decent chance you are a baddie who gains in power over time, and you're trying to delay being lynched for some reason. You've made claims of being indestructible and said you weren't worried about your campaign putting a target on your back for that reason. You said you weren't worried about being lynched because you won't be lynched. But I can smell the fear on your breath from here.
This is what I was thinking. It might be safest to lynch sig.
Lunalee wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:11 pm Wait, why are you folks lynching sig? I need to catch up.
That's a very strange backtrack.

And then we get this progression:
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:14 pm
sig wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:33 am
Spoiler: show
MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:07 am Sig is your apparent inability to be lynched literally just today that it won't work?
Oh it'll work whenever I want, but it would be a waste for it to be used today. I won't have enough time in this timeline to make it worthwhile basically.

MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:12 pm
sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm Sig are you a civilian? Yes or no?

If you are a civilian what will be the outcome of lynching you today? Is the outcome positive or negative? Why?

If you are a civilian does your continued existence beyond day 3 reap any benefit to the civilian cause?

Yes

there's no outcome of lynching me today since it won't happen but if it did it would be negative since you'd loose a civ, but there wouldn't be some cataclysmic event

yes in the sense that I'd be here to post and engage. However, it's not like some role actives if I'm alive after day 3.

Also I think y'all might've read a little bit to deep into my d/n 1 posts. :p
So if we attempt to lynch you today, it just fails? Or it redirects? Does the second person get lynched instead? What do you expect the outcome to be? Just your continued existence and a fart video?

So you are saying that all of your role stops being relevant come day 3?

If you are a civilian then us wasting a lynch on you here is a bad idea. Given we have several other people who have role claimed, perhaps the civilian duty you have here is to actually just enlighten us as to what it is that you do?
1. Everything resets and I leave you all for a better land BUT I wouldn't have been lynched.

2. No my role is relevant until I use it

3. I told you I can't be lynched that's my role power. :shrug:

IF you try you fail and the timeline will be disrupted resulting in chaos. Or that's the theory anyway.

Also just to be clear if you tried to lynhc me day 3 it would also fail, but it would've been the optimal time for me to active my power. Or that's what I thought at first.
I don't really want to lynch sig today. I didn't know quite what to think of his claims earlier, but now I feel like he's being genuine.
Lunalee wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:16 pm Also, I thought it was basically confirmed that INH was third-party. Is that a problem for town? Why is he tied with sig? I feel like we can do better than this.
Lunalee wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:35 pm Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?
Yes, I want to step away from the sig and INH drama. I feel it is distracting us from actually getting a scum lynch. Didn't Quin start this whole thing? I don't know if I want to keep Quin around. I feel like he introduced a class-A distraction to get suspicions off of his team.
I think potentially the worst look in here is 'I feel like we can do better than this' when we've been presented with a potential 50/50 shot. What's the size of the team - 3 or 4? So you'd have no more than a 25% shot the rest of the time...

Then:
Lunalee wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:30 pm [VOTE: Quin] aubergine [citation]
and
Lunalee wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:52 pm I'm going to put my vote on INH because I don't like how defensive he got about his role. But that makes a tie between him and sig. Ugh.
It's worth noting that last post is AFTER sig triggered the event but before it took place.

Looking through Luna's iso as a whole, I tend to find that she is team compatible with sig, and that's where my vote is going for now.

[VOTE: Lunalee] aubergine
Hi Golden. This is an excellent review of my posts. For some reason I completely forgot what was going on with sig when I hoped back in here and saw he was being lynched. My bad. I should have read my own posts it seems. Despite that misunderstanding, I want to clarify that if sig and I were mafia teammates in this game, I would have distanced myself from this whole Quin-sig-INH drama. And I would not have so openly posted my opinions on the matter. My scum-strategy when suspicion is being thrown on a teammate is to quietly step away.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:48 pm
Forum: Previous Jobs
Topic: Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Golden wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:30 pm I have to say I don’t agree with inhs case on Luna, same behaviour as Ancient Greece, but I independently see her as compatible with a bad sig.
Golden, you're not making much sense here. You don't agree with INH's analysis of my posts, but you think I'm bad because I defended sig?
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:57 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Kylemii wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:56 pm hey what time does this phase end? im s little behind here and I need to know when to budget my time for ketchup
Dude, we just got an extra day phase. You have plenty of time for ketchup and re-evaluation.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:57 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Wow, INH. That was beautiful, despite your suspicions of me.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:52 pm
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Topic: Retrocausality Mafia - ENDGAME: A Reprieve in the Desert
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

I'm going to put my vote on INH because I don't like how defensive he got about his role. But that makes a tie between him and sig. Ugh.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:50 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:33 pm
Lunalee wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:22 pm
Epignosis wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:35 pm Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?
Yes, I want to step away from the sig and INH drama. I feel it is distracting us from actually getting a scum lynch. Didn't Quin start this whole thing? I don't know if I want to keep Quin around. I feel like he introduced a class-A distraction to get suspicions off of his team.
Why would scum Quin feel the need to gambit this hard D2? Who is “his team”?
I don't know. But I thought I'd go back and look for any clues, and found this objection to lynching both sig and INH. So now I'm back to thinking Quin actually received a pm, whether legit or not, and is trying to be helpful. I don't know who to vote for now, and I'm running out of time.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:26 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Turnip Head wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:26 pm I'm tossing Mac's name out there and I'm going all-in :slick:
Why is that?
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:24 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Turnip Head wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:20 pm I mean where did INH claim 3P?
He didn't, but:
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insertnamehere wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:55 pm :sigh:

Once again, I feel like I'm in a position where I either reveal details about my role, or let myself get lynched.

This is the most frustrating goddamn situation, as even if sig, Quin, and I are all lynched, one after the other, the thread still won't know if Quin was telling the truth or not.

So, it's either sig, the dude who was literally voted as the most trustworthy person during the last phase, or me, who pissed off Golden and Scotty.

And there's a very large chance, IMO, that this is entirely pointless.
Spoiler: show
insertnamehere wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:42 am I thought Scotty's D1 voting pattern was weird and suspicious enough for me to vote for him, however, if he later went against what made me suspicious, I was open to changing it to someone else.

Quin is trying to put me in a situation where I either post the details of my role, proving that I'm not a threat to the civilians, or he's gonna make me look like a confirmed baddie, and serve my head on a platter.

But apparently the first is malevolent blackmail, and the second is okay, kosher civ behavior.


Linki:
Quin wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:34 am Why should I care about your role? Scum gets fakeclaims.
What? I thought fake-claims were more character based. Like, if everyone said the name of their role, and three of the names were obvious bad guys in time-travel related tales, then fakeclaims would allow them to at least appear as simpatico, non-enemy sounding roles. That's how I used them in the games I've hosted. I'm not familiar with fake-claims including fake abilities.

Well, what the fuck do you want from me, Quin? If literally nothing I can say about myself or my role could change anything, fuck it.

Might as well ignore you then.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:22 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Epignosis wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:35 pm Let's do something more fun.

sig and INH are Booker DeWitt and Comstock. That is to say, both have been swept away by the Luteces. They're not here.

Who gets your vote and why?
Yes, I want to step away from the sig and INH drama. I feel it is distracting us from actually getting a scum lynch. Didn't Quin start this whole thing? I don't know if I want to keep Quin around. I feel like he introduced a class-A distraction to get suspicions off of his team.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:16 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Also, I thought it was basically confirmed that INH was third-party. Is that a problem for town? Why is he tied with sig? I feel like we can do better than this.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 2:14 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

sig wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:33 am
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MacDougall wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:07 am Sig is your apparent inability to be lynched literally just today that it won't work?
Oh it'll work whenever I want, but it would be a waste for it to be used today. I won't have enough time in this timeline to make it worthwhile basically.

MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:12 pm
sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:09 pm
MacDougall wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:06 pm Sig are you a civilian? Yes or no?

If you are a civilian what will be the outcome of lynching you today? Is the outcome positive or negative? Why?

If you are a civilian does your continued existence beyond day 3 reap any benefit to the civilian cause?

Yes

there's no outcome of lynching me today since it won't happen but if it did it would be negative since you'd loose a civ, but there wouldn't be some cataclysmic event

yes in the sense that I'd be here to post and engage. However, it's not like some role actives if I'm alive after day 3.

Also I think y'all might've read a little bit to deep into my d/n 1 posts. :p
So if we attempt to lynch you today, it just fails? Or it redirects? Does the second person get lynched instead? What do you expect the outcome to be? Just your continued existence and a fart video?

So you are saying that all of your role stops being relevant come day 3?

If you are a civilian then us wasting a lynch on you here is a bad idea. Given we have several other people who have role claimed, perhaps the civilian duty you have here is to actually just enlighten us as to what it is that you do?
1. Everything resets and I leave you all for a better land BUT I wouldn't have been lynched.

2. No my role is relevant until I use it

3. I told you I can't be lynched that's my role power. :shrug:

IF you try you fail and the timeline will be disrupted resulting in chaos. Or that's the theory anyway.

Also just to be clear if you tried to lynhc me day 3 it would also fail, but it would've been the optimal time for me to active my power. Or that's what I thought at first.
I don't really want to lynch sig today. I didn't know quite what to think of his claims earlier, but now I feel like he's being genuine.
by Lunalee
Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:52 am
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:34 pm
Lunalee wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:30 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:22 pm Scotty is both town and doctor.
How are you so sure of that?
My entire role was literally 'find scotty', I just didn't know it was scotty, until I did.
:confused: okay then
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:30 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:22 pm Scotty is both town and doctor.
How are you so sure of that?
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:55 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:50 pm Now I'm worried about what luna does to speedchuck in the privacy of their own home when speed puts timers on the polls. I feel like we've walked in on something.
I like to know how long I can procrastinate deciding on my vote.
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:49 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

speedchuck wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:42 pm
Lunalee wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:38 pm @speedchuck can you please put an end-time on these polls?
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okay, but like for next time though.
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:48 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:42 pm
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:35 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:33 pm
Lunalee wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:31 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:40 pm
Quin wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:34 pm
sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:57 pm @Quin



IS this still true in your mind?

ye



Why

Also could you explain your note a bit more? And why we should trust some random message. :shrug:
Golden was quick to deny my info-dump before. Feels like he's your teammate and was protecting you.
No, I was quick to challenge it.

How many times do I have to say that I NEVER PROTECT TEAMMATES. Literally never because it is the stupidest thing to do.

Go read Economics, where I bussed my entire team early and rode it to the end. That's how you win as scum. Not protecting someone who had just been outed as having a 50% chance of being bad.

If you think you should get to say something and everyone just believe it without asking questions, you've got another think coming.
I would still keep a look out for WIFOM-Golden defending his team mates because he'll think we think he knows better.
If I thought that I wouldn't have to keep reminding people when they suspect me for the opposite.
Which is why you absolutely would have to remind people of your meta tendency to bus teammates for your ploy to work.
Luna, trust me when I say this...

Telling people things never makes them listen. You have to prove it to them over games and games and games before you can flip your meta on them. And it's only worth doing it in circumstances where it's particularly meaningful, because it undoes sooo much work, and you have to start building new metas from scratch.

When I bussed people in Economics, it worked particular well because I NEVER bussed people. It still works because of the way people perceive me. I can get a lot of civ cred through leading a successful lynch if I play my cards right. But also, it partly works because I frequently successfully lead lynches when town, too, so I'm 'on meta'.

I will flip my meta on people one day. But it won't be a day when I'm reminding you of the meta I'm going to flip on you, I promise you. I know enough to know I can never convince you of what I'm telling you and betray it all in the same game - you saw how hard I had to fight just to get people to pick a different poll option on a non-important poll in U-Pick. It's not that easy to get people to listen to what you're saying. I cultivate meta as a long con, not a short con, because that's what builds the successful flip.

(Plus, there's no value to me ruining my meta in that way in a game like this. I could just as easily defend my teammates given they wouldn't flip bad, and then claim I chose to play this game differently because of the different set up which enabled me to do it, but that it isn't a shift in my meta, just a particular circumstance that required different play).
Wow, thats quite an explanation, Golden. I believed your claims, but thought I'd poke at it a bit to get more of a response. And you did not disappoint. XD
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:38 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] can you please put an end-time on these polls?
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:35 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:33 pm
Lunalee wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:31 pm
Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:40 pm
Quin wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:34 pm
sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:57 pm @Quin
Quin wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:31 am nutella is a civ and either one of mac and golden is bad :beer:
IS this still true in your mind?

ye
Quin wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:36 am I'm currently thinking about a sig/Golden team.
Why

Also could you explain your note a bit more? And why we should trust some random message. :shrug:
Golden was quick to deny my info-dump before. Feels like he's your teammate and was protecting you.
No, I was quick to challenge it.

How many times do I have to say that I NEVER PROTECT TEAMMATES. Literally never because it is the stupidest thing to do.

Go read Economics, where I bussed my entire team early and rode it to the end. That's how you win as scum. Not protecting someone who had just been outed as having a 50% chance of being bad.

If you think you should get to say something and everyone just believe it without asking questions, you've got another think coming.
I would still keep a look out for WIFOM-Golden defending his team mates because he'll think we think he knows better.
If I thought that I wouldn't have to keep reminding people when they suspect me for the opposite.
Which is why you absolutely would have to remind people of your meta tendency to bus teammates for your ploy to work.
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:32 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:27 pm
Lunalee wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:26 pm @insertnamehere and @sig , assuming Quin has been mis-led by this pm, do you think it likely that you could both be aligned?
If he was mislead it would be by mafia so we're both not mafia yeah.

He could be indy, but i doubt it.
So you're not indy?
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:31 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:40 pm
Quin wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:34 pm
sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 2:57 pm @Quin
Quin wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:31 am nutella is a civ and either one of mac and golden is bad :beer:
IS this still true in your mind?

ye
Quin wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:36 am I'm currently thinking about a sig/Golden team.
Why

Also could you explain your note a bit more? And why we should trust some random message. :shrug:
Golden was quick to deny my info-dump before. Feels like he's your teammate and was protecting you.
No, I was quick to challenge it.

How many times do I have to say that I NEVER PROTECT TEAMMATES. Literally never because it is the stupidest thing to do.

Go read Economics, where I bussed my entire team early and rode it to the end. That's how you win as scum. Not protecting someone who had just been outed as having a 50% chance of being bad.

If you think you should get to say something and everyone just believe it without asking questions, you've got another think coming.
I would still keep a look out for WIFOM-Golden defending his team mates because he'll think we think he knows better.
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:26 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

[mention]insertnamehere[/mention] and [mention]sig[/mention] , assuming Quin has been mis-led by this pm, do you think it likely that you could both be aligned?
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:20 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:17 pm Like I'm honestly shocked that in a role madness closed set up game everyone's just believing some random PM with information.
Phantom PMs are better than nothing though, right?
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:11 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Wait, why are you folks lynching sig? I need to catch up.
by Lunalee
Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:48 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 2: Sig puts his John Hancock down

Golden wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:45 pm
sig wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 6:40 pmEither way the idea of lynching me since I said I couldn't be lynched doesn't seem townie.
And this is complete bullshit

I called your bluff and now you're worried.

Glad I called it.

I think there's a decent chance you are a baddie who gains in power over time, and you're trying to delay being lynched for some reason. You've made claims of being indestructible and said you weren't worried about your campaign putting a target on your back for that reason. You said you weren't worried about being lynched because you won't be lynched. But I can smell the fear on your breath from here.
This is what I was thinking. It might be safest to lynch sig.
by Lunalee
Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:29 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Night 1: Who is your best "write-in" candidate?

Turnip Head wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:07 pm @Lunalee would you like to be president sometime? And do you think you might campaign a tad less obnoxiously than sig has?

I'm looking for a new horse to back. I've got a lot riding on who's in charge round these parts, you see. Both today AND tomorrow AND yesterday
I would love to win the election at some point. And I'll try to campaign a bit for it.
by Lunalee
Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:20 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Night 1: Who is your best "write-in" candidate?

sig wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:35 pm
speedchuck wrote: Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:33 pm Night is half over and I'm missing a loooooot of night actions.
Never submit night actions that's my policy. Why hide your actions? I never do I'll tell you straight up what I plan to do. Which is why a vote for sig is a vote for open night actions. No more hiding no more fear no more control. Vote Sig a player you can trust.
Sig, your campaigning is gold. I'm voting for you. I believe I can count on you to sign that Bill of Rights with the most beautiful signature

[VOTE: sig] aubergine
by Lunalee
Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:15 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Night 1: Who is your best "write-in" candidate?

Quin wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:12 pm
sig wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:08 pm
Quin wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:55 pm elect me please i'm gonna make the syndicate great again™
Build bridges not walls
Image
an accurate representation of sig's leadership ability
:haha:
by Lunalee
Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:04 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Night 1: Who is your best "write-in" candidate?

[mention]sig[/mention] , [mention]Quin[/mention] , if you're going to self-vote, at least give us a good reason to support you or not.
by Lunalee
Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:57 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Scotty wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:41 am
Zephyrus wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:24 am
Scotty wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:40 am
Spoiler: show
Zephyrus wrote: Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:04 am
Scotty wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:48 pm
Zephyrus wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:56 pm

I can only conclude from this that you have no suspects.
Yeah. I'm never any good on day one. :p
I guess it's time to work on that, though.
What do you base your D1 votes on?
Well, I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking, and then I'll vote for the person who seems scummiest or whose lynch will yield the most information.
Choutas wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:51 pm
nutella wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:43 pm Yeah I don't suspect zephyrus but if y'all wanna bite Epi's bait I'm watching :beer:
Why don't you suspect him? Wasn't that a weird ass post? I posted the same thing as scum last game and everybody called my bullshit.
He's suss as sin.
I've explained that I was busy with exams. All I did was make a post hyping up the thread and showing that I'm alive. It's hardly suss as sin. :suspish:
And, if you're talking about me voting lapluie, read above.
lapluie wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:37 pm Wow could you at least @ me if ur gonna lynch me zyph thx
Sorry. :p
I normally do an initial lynch on people to get them talking
I lol’d. Good one, even though I’m sure this isn’t a joke.

Do you feel like your lynch of lapluie is getting him talking? Right now it appears that you ordered Haricots Verts with the expectation of cake and when the green beans show up you just nod and continue patiently waiting on your cake.
I just thought I'd give them a little more time. Chill.
@lapluie, who do you think is scummy? Answer quick, because I'm getting into loads of trouble.
I’m chilling, I have a fan blowing on my feet

Also what does it mean to vote for someone on D1 that will yield the most information? That’s a catch-all reasoning, because lynching anyone yields the most information. We have no information.

I don’t believe that you actually care about what lapluie has to say. By your own admission, you have no suspects.

Might want to at least look at some more people, ZMan (can I call you ZMan?)
I'm going to [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine, just because he seems too eager to back Zephyrus into a corner over his Lapluie vote.
by Lunalee
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:13 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

MacDougall wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:23 pm Luna do you think ColinIsCool?
Of course ColinIsCool.

But in all seriousness, I have no reason to suspect Colin at this point. I notice he's voting for Scotty, which I'm actually considering myself.
by Lunalee
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:09 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Scotty wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:23 pm @Lunalee how would you describe your scum game in a few descriptive words, seeing as we were just scummates and you’ve finally dipped your toes in the mildewy side of the pond?
You want me to explain my scum meta to you? Based off one scum game, I hardly know myself. But I do think I played better as scum. I had more motivation to "look good". When I'm town, I just make stupid posts that get myself lynched.
by Lunalee
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:48 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Epignosis wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:41 pm
Zephyrus wrote: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:00 pm Image
Let's do some time stuff!
Invited people to do stuff.

Has done nothing.

[VOTE: Zephyrus] aubergine
Epignosis wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:59 pmWho objects?
IDK, That sounds exactly like something I would do. Gung-ho townie is ready to get down to business, starts combing the thread, finds nothing to go on, and just hangs back for a bit to see what's going to happen.
by Lunalee
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:40 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 0: It's 'TIME' to get started

Scotty wrote: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:01 pm
Epignosis wrote: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:01 pm
Scotty wrote: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:59 pm
Golden wrote: Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:30 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:59 pm What happens if we run into a version of ourselves from the past?
Did your past self meet you? If not, then this can't happen.

There's only three plausible options:

1) There is a singular universe, and so your experience of the past is exactly what happened; or
2) There is a multiverse, in which case if you meet a version of yourself from the past, that person is not you; or
3) There will be plot holes in your life story.

Don't forget, retrocausality is about the future effecting the past. So, it's possible you could create the multiverse, but it's also entirely possible that the point of this game is to demonstrate that retrocausality is an illusion designed to keep you pacified.
*affecting
Golden's use of "effecting" is correct.
*currect
Is this why you have 3 votes, Scotty?
jk, but I am looking at your posts and trying to figure it out.
by Lunalee
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:34 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Golden wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:26 pm
Lunalee wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:24 pm
Golden wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:09 pm At the moment I don't have a great number of reads. But I have active town reads on Kyle, sig, and probably Mac
@Golden , do you really have such a good handle on people's metas that you can "town read" Kyle, sig and Mac on day one? Seems strange to me.
No.

Reads are always subject to change. I’m not going to hold off making them because I might be wrong.
Fair enough
by Lunalee
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:24 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Golden wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:09 pm At the moment I don't have a great number of reads. But I have active town reads on Kyle, sig, and probably Mac
[mention]Golden[/mention] , do you really have such a good handle on people's metas that you can "town read" Kyle, sig and Mac on day one? Seems strange to me.
by Lunalee
Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:20 pm
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Re: Retrocausality Mafia - Day 1: Better flush out the PP

Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:21 pm
Lunalee wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:13 pm
Epignosis wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:56 pm
Zephyrus wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:00 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:33 am Zephyrus and Quin, who do you think we should lynch?
lapluie. If I'm going to be lynched on the grounds that I'm not contributing, let's not pretend I'm the only one. :)
[VOTE: lapluie] aubergine
I can only conclude from this that you have no suspects.
But really, how can anyone have suspects on day 1?
:ponder:

Who is getting your vote today and why?
Haha, that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. I'll keep you posted.

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