The Syndicate

I can't believe this game is still going

LOL, joined team "lets take a nap" before I saw the votes on the poll. Looks like that is the popular option.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:44 pm I don't not believe Quin when he says he's lynchproof. I don't think that makes him a civilian though. I may switch to Tranq to ensure that something actually happens today.

If Quin actually claimed to be lynch proof, then I feel confident that he's scum, feeling cornered, and lying.

[VOTE: Quin] aubergine

Also sorry I've been absent. Been out of town today, and trying to catch up with things around the house since returning home.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:00 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:53 am I should probably vote at some point. I want to vote sabie, but her posts are just so calm and civ-like that I'm having doubts even though she was basically scum-firmed by sprityo.
I want to know why civilian posts are inherently calm in your mind. Civilians should be flipping tables and swinging whips like Jesus in the temple.

THIS IS A DEN OF THIEVES

so you think sabie is bad?

I should probably vote at some point. I want to vote sabie, but her posts are just so calm and civ-like that I'm having doubts even though she was basically scum-firmed by sprityo.

Enrique wrote: ↑Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:13 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:39 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:29 pm So I didn’t read into TH being bad or really read at all, but could someone clear out the possibility for me that TH wasn’t forged into being the trickster upon death?

I never trust flavor posts out of habit (speedchuck and I probably share this) this is a role that can make anyone else they kill reveal as something else. It’s not like I can ask long con “did the trickster for real for real die?”

Linki: very well, I’ll keep that in mind sloon
The answer to your question is that it seems like it would be theoretically possible. If the trickster is bad and killed th and forged it to say th was the trickster and was bad, sure. But... why would they do that? It's interesting that you bring up such a specific question when you have barely participated.
The simplest answer is that a mafia person died. If we make that assumption, we can move forward with analyzing TH and sussing out someone to lynch today. If we get all suspicious that TH only flipped bad, and wasn't really bad, then we don't have a clear path forward for today's lynch. I'd rather assume the simplest scenario that TH was bad, and use that information to move forward.
I like how I pointed at this as Luna's civviest post and now all her recent posts are speculating about secrets and decoys.

This game is full of craziness, and I find it sort of fun to discuss what's going on.

The fact that juliets had the gentle Sheppard role and was also mafia makes me think that either roles and alignments were both randomized, or she was killed by the trickster, who is still alive and trying to mess with us. I realize for that to be true, the team with the trickster would have killed twice in a row. In a previous game I've played with two scum teams, if one scum team kills a member of the other team, they get to kill the next night as well. So it is possible.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:53 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:47 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:41 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:33 pm I asked this before but I don't think I got an answer. I thought "forge" meant the forger can make someone appear as any alignment he or she wants. Does it mean they can also make people appear any role that they want?
There may be variations on how it works out there. The Trickster's forge allows him to make his kill-target appear as the role and alignment of his choosing.
OOOOOHHHHHHHH ok thank you much.
This makes me think TH wasn't even bad, and the mafia team with the trickster killed him.
I give up

What's your opinion on the TH flip?

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:42 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:41 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:33 pm I asked this before but I don't think I got an answer. I thought "forge" meant the forger can make someone appear as any alignment he or she wants. Does it mean they can also make people appear any role that they want?
There may be variations on how it works out there. The Trickster's forge allows him to make his kill-target appear as the role and alignment of his choosing.
OOOOOHHHHHHHH ok thank you much.

This makes me think TH wasn't even bad, and the mafia team with the trickster killed him.

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:33 pm I asked this before but I don't think I got an answer. I thought "forge" meant the forger can make someone appear as any alignment he or she wants. Does it mean they can also make people appear any role that they want?

@Tranq thank you for your reply. I tend to think you're not lying because you're identifying your position on the map with the Magic Mirror thingy and there could be someone that knows what square you are on and can check to see if there really is a mirror there and what kind of info it gives. In other words, if it was a lie it was a risky lie.

@Lunalee, in all fairness to you it has occurred to me that you haven't played one of these Long Rock games and my skepticism comes from years of playing them and knowing that information is often not what it seems.

Yes, this is my first map-based game and Long Con/Black Rock game.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:55 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:52 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:50 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:48 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:46 am Lunalee what's your mafia background? Infodump heavy games, no infodumping games, etc?
Her first game was on this site, so the site history is all here.
Not helpful for my purposes, since apparently there are both types of games here
She also has a list of games she's played in her signature, which I have turned off for reading's sake.
I don't actually care about her performances, but I'm asking because there's a bunch of people jumping her for believing an infodump and where I started on the Realms the default rule is to trust info unless given a strong reason not to (almost to a fault really).

Speed sort of gave you my mafia background. I started playing online this year in February. But it looks like you're really asking why I believed sprityo's info dump. It was useful information, he didn't have to share it, it hasn't been proved false, and I saw no reason to not believe it.

insertnamehere wrote: ↑Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:12 am i am a fucking prophet

except you're wrong.

So can we agree that sabie is most likely bad now?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:51 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:49 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:43 pm If you asked me with no context... which player is most likely to be mislynched in any game, I would snap answer sig, then I would say "oh but Wilgy gets mislynched too" and then I would think of nobody else after that.
do the wilgy mislynches have any correlation with his activity level?
Yes

The only problem is that sometimes Wilgy mislynches (yes mislynches) actually find scum Wilgy too.

except it's not a mislynch if he's scum.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:39 pm There are enough people here to easily create an INH lynch. Give me one good reason we shouldn't lynch INH?

I think he's been silenced all day.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:38 pm @Lunalee can you say with confidence that gman is not a serial killer

He is not.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:33 pmCFD INH

But really, are you not happy with the wilgy lynch? Why?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:31 pm And...

...as soon as I post that, she does.

LOL

timmer wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:30 pm
Tranq wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:55 pm Infodumping sucks. I don't like it. Never have and never will. I'm not moving my vote because someone has info that may or may not be true.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:15 pm
Luna, Kyle, DDL, Quin, G-man.

One of them killed nutella.
What's your plan if we lynch one of these 5 and they're civ?

Let's say we lynch Luna today and she's good.
Day 3 we go "oh it's one out of these 4 now, those are even better odds", we lynch Kyle and he's good.
Day 4 we lynch DDL and he's good.
Day 5 we lynch Quin and he's good.
Day 6 we lynch G-Man and he's either bad (you got good info) or not (your info was incorrect, or you lied and made us waste 5 lynches)

We could waste up to 4 lynches if the info is right, 5 if it's wrong.
So... I just checked and tranq dropped this and then never posted again?

So I think quite heavily that tranq is bad and one of his teammates is on the verge of getting lynched today, and their team is frustrated at getting hit by map info.

So considering the state of the poll, I'll move my vote to wilgy since he's in the lead he'd be the one tranq is mad about.

I'm pretty sure Tranq posted this before Wilgy had any votes on him.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:27 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:25 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:12 pm Hey, if I vote for G-Man, it'll cause a tie.

*begins to sweat*
Luna might have something to say about that. I think you should do it.
yeah
[VOTE: Dr.Wilgy] aubergine
is there more you can say about g-man?
Not really, but what are you fishing for?
Something that might change my mind about him.

I am convinced that G-man is civ. That is all there is to it. I won't tell you why or how.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:25 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:24 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:12 pm Hey, if I vote for G-Man, it'll cause a tie.

*begins to sweat*
Luna might have something to say about that. I think you should do it.
yeah
[VOTE: Dr.Wilgy] aubergine
is there more you can say about g-man?

Not really, but what are you fishing for?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:15 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:12 pm Hey, if I vote for G-Man, it'll cause a tie.

*begins to sweat*
Luna might have something to say about that. I think you should do it.

yeah
[VOTE: Dr.Wilgy] aubergine

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:57 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:50 pm Nevermind Sabie I dunno if legally you can answer that
I dont know if I legally can either but I think I've made it pretty clear indirectly.

yeah, I don't know if I buy this. Sprityo asked if any shady characters had been by that way. The woods lady says, "yeah, I saw sabie with a jagged blade." If sabie were just standing on the square, minding her own business when an actual baddie happens by (like she claims), the wood lady would have told sprityo the other name instead of sabie's.

Moving my vote to sabie, because she very obviously is bad if sprityo's information is correct. Also I don't think sprityo would lie about what he learned, because if sabie flipps town we would all know.

sprityo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:38 pm I asked this, Woman in the woods about "any shady, evil, scary characters" that had passed by lately.

To which she replied that she "saw sabie12 with a jagged blade with her." followed by if i "understood that innuendo" and gave me a wink.

To anyone still stumped, she has essentially told me that sabie12 is a member of the jagged blade. Who we know is one of the mafia teams

Woah, okay. Maybe we should lynch sabie today

Sorsha wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:50 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:33 pm I just though of something. TH could have been killed by the other mafia team, and nutella could have been killed by a different role. In which case, there would be no scum among "Sloonei's 5"
I had the same though for a minute but like sloonei said. Nutella would be an odd kill choice for anyone not mafia imo

The kill roles look limited to whoever is near you on the map. Nutella could have just been in the wrong place when one of them decided to make a kill.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:34 pm An uninformed spectator might think I’ve started a boyband.

Sloonei 5 is way cooler sounding than the Jackson 5.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:33 pm I just though of something. TH could have been killed by the other mafia team, and nutella could have been killed by a different role. In which case, there would be no scum among "Sloonei's 5"

Just looking at roles that have kills and our options are:
Dark Worshiper - doesn't look civ aligned, can kill 3 times
Sakana Sashimi - one time kill, so no longer a threat after the first kill
Savage Pixie - also a one time kill, but since they are undetectable, I don't think anyone would have seen them if they did kill nutella
Trickster - This was TH, but maybe he took nutella out before he died?
Then there are the secret roles, and the secrets associated with other roles. These may or may not include kill abilities.

I just though of something. TH could have been killed by the other mafia team, and nutella could have been killed by a different role. In which case, there would be no scum among "Sloonei's 5"

Voting Quin for now, but still open to hearing more cases on DDL and Kylemii.

juliets wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:45 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:18 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:59 pm I have reason to believe that nutella was killed by one of the five players I ISO’d.

Okay, thanks. I have reason to believe that G-man is not guilty.
Ok so Luna, I don't guess there is anything more about this that you can share? Also, I forgot this morning when I was posting that Sloonei knows one of the 5 killed nutella. If I change my vote I'll change it to one of the other 4.

I would rather not share more info. And yes, I'm narrowing it down to DDL, Quin, and Kylemii.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:27 am also: i'm not voting for sloonei today

sloonei is just about the least likely mafia memebr out of the players with votes

Going through Kylemii's ISO like, "meh...meh...meh..." until I get to this. I'm not fully convinced, but this sort of looks town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:22 pm The G-Man wagon is very colorful at the moment.

yeah, too bad I won't be adding green to it.

But I'll look closer at Kyle, DDL, and Quin, and move my vote to the one who looks most guilty.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:59 pm I have reason to believe that nutella was killed by one of the five players I ISO’d.

Okay, thanks. I have reason to believe that G-man is not guilty.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:03 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:54 am
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:22 am I have reason to think Sloonei is telling the truth about at least some things, and if we have to go from his list, my pick is either G-Man (for reasons others have stated) or Luna (for reasons I have stated). Considering how poorly I read Luna, I will follow in Dana’s footsteps and pick [VOTE: G-MAN] aubergine.
What if sloonei is bad. Why are you so willing to trust another player's reads?
It’s not about Sloonei’s reads. If Sloonei says he has a pool of people who did something, I have reason to believe him. Another player has also referenced this reason in this thread, but I don’t remember who so good luck finding it.

Sorry, but where did Sloonei say this? I missed it, and a can't find it.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Wed Dec 12, 2018 10:22 am I have reason to think Sloonei is telling the truth about at least some things, and if we have to go from his list, my pick is either G-Man (for reasons others have stated) or Luna (for reasons I have stated). Considering how poorly I read Luna, I will follow in Dana’s footsteps and pick [VOTE: G-MAN] aubergine.

What if sloonei is bad. Why are you so willing to trust another player's reads?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:19 pm If you named those five cats and said "who of these are most likely to kill nutella" I would say Lunalee.

Hey, I don't hold grudges.

Voting Colin. Again. I just can't see him as town, and it buggs me. Also I really don't like the G-man train. It looks scummy because G-man hasn't said anything to look bad in my opinion, but he just hasn't been around much, which makes him an easy lynch target.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:15 pm
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:44 pm
timmer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:39 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:29 pm So I didn’t read into TH being bad or really read at all, but could someone clear out the possibility for me that TH wasn’t forged into being the trickster upon death?

I never trust flavor posts out of habit (speedchuck and I probably share this) this is a role that can make anyone else they kill reveal as something else. It’s not like I can ask long con “did the trickster for real for real die?”

Linki: very well, I’ll keep that in mind sloon
The answer to your question is that it seems like it would be theoretically possible. If the trickster is bad and killed th and forged it to say th was the trickster and was bad, sure. But... why would they do that? It's interesting that you bring up such a specific question when you have barely participated.
The simplest answer is that a mafia person died. If we make that assumption, we can move forward with analyzing TH and sussing out someone to lynch today. If we get all suspicious that TH only flipped bad, and wasn't really bad, then we don't have a clear path forward for today's lynch. I'd rather assume the simplest scenario that TH was bad, and use that information to move forward.
This is your best post so far

I'm both flattered and insulted.

timmer wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:39 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:29 pm So I didn’t read into TH being bad or really read at all, but could someone clear out the possibility for me that TH wasn’t forged into being the trickster upon death?

I never trust flavor posts out of habit (speedchuck and I probably share this) this is a role that can make anyone else they kill reveal as something else. It’s not like I can ask long con “did the trickster for real for real die?”

Linki: very well, I’ll keep that in mind sloon
The answer to your question is that it seems like it would be theoretically possible. If the trickster is bad and killed th and forged it to say th was the trickster and was bad, sure. But... why would they do that? It's interesting that you bring up such a specific question when you have barely participated.

The simplest answer is that a mafia person died. If we make that assumption, we can move forward with analyzing TH and sussing out someone to lynch today. If we get all suspicious that TH only flipped bad, and wasn't really bad, then we don't have a clear path forward for today's lynch. I'd rather assume the simplest scenario that TH was bad, and use that information to move forward.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:59 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:22 am Nutella died? I haven't seen the end of night post.
Why post before reading the night post? What if you had died?
That would have been a problem, and I have accidentally done that before. I was focused on catching up, and ignored the posts that were being made.

[mention]timmer[/mention]

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:26 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:22 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:20 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:17 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 am People: "wilgy is a bad vote for people scared to be held responsible"

Also people: "nah let's not vote for anybody on his wagon"
[VOTE: tranq] aubergine

still want juliets
This post is weird and I may be misunderstanding it. But is colonialbob saying people scared to be held responsible will vote off wagon? Then Sloonei quotes it, not only saying he's voting off wagon, but that he's not even voting for who he wants to vote for. If you're going to vote off wagon anyways, why not go for juliets?
cbob was suggesting that we should vote for a player who was voting for wilgy at the time because a number of people were complaining that his wagon was shady and weak. Tranq was on the wagon and was a person who'd garnered a fair amount of suspicion.

Why'd you kill nutella?
I would like to look at Wolbre's wagon. That's a good place to start.

Nutella died? I haven't seen the end of night post.
Why does your response have nothing to do with Sloonei's post

I didn't read it close enough it seems. I understand what happened now. So Tranq was a valid option based on that plan. But since Wolbre flipped town, I think his wagon looks worse than Wilgy's, whose alignment is not known.

Tranq wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:36 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:22 am Nutella died? I haven't seen the end of night post.
Why post before reading the night post? What if you had died?

That would have been a problem, and I have accidentally done that before. I was focused on catching up, and ignored the posts that were being made.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:37 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:18 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 am I think we made the best decision I was able to come up with. That's all we can ask for in any lynch.
ew. Really don't like the vibe here.
We have this thing where we suspect each other in every game and we should probably stop doing that

Mac, I suspect everyone at one point or another. You don't get a special pass, my friend.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:33 am
Spoiler: show
The people want Luna ISO 2.0, so I'm gonna give it to them! late Day 1 and on edition:
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:42 am Ahhh
Should I break the tie on wilgy or sloonei, or just stay on colin and ignore it?

linki: the tie is gone
WHAT IS THIS POST, LUNA? Why ignore it? What was going through your head as you entered the thread near the deadline? (I'll provide my own answer to that question, you tell me if i'm right or wrong)

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:44 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:42 am Well I guess getting lynched Day 1 means I can study more rip
but you're not getting lynched? Wilgy has 5 votes and you have 3
Are you sitting down?

Things were volatile, votes were changing every second. I don't get this post.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:45 am I don't know what's going on and I don't have much time to catch up before EOD. Halp.
Verbal flailing.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:41 am I always self destruct under pressure look back at the Peloponnesian war mafia game where I was town
Imma bet wolbre's town.
Good call right there.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:55 am Wilgy on the other hand, has said nothing that looks lock-town.
I mean, given the options I can't say this vote is terrible. I'm not sure what to make of the note of confidence though. The vote feels a bit overstated, maybe.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:56 am Voting Dr. Wilgy. Incase he's bad. Cause I don't thin Wolbre is.
I can't tell if this vote is more a defense of wolbre or an act against wilgy. It's both for sure, but I'm unclear on what luna's primary motive was, if that sort of thing matters at all.

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:58 am
wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:57 am im not dying over an afk player
[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine
dude, please be civ, cause I just saved you for no reason and if you're bad I'm gonna die.

Conclusion on EOD Luna: She showed up late in the day with a vote parked on Colin. She needed to make a decision on Wilgy or wolbre and got involved. I like that on the surface. She made a decision and stuck to it. There was not a lot of time to think things through, so everything came out a bit jumbled, but I'd be interested in hearing what exactly was going through Luna's mind when she was deciding who to vote for, just to help contextualize these posts a bit better. I lean town on her behavior here, but that's not a strong read at the moment.

LOL, almost exactly what you saw me post in this thread was what was going on in my mind. I popped in about 15 till end of day, and I couldn't just not get involved, but I was scared that if I did get involved last minute and picked the wrong player to vote, it would make me look bad later. I skimmed both wolbre's and wilgy's most latest posts, and made my decision from that to vote wilgy. I ignored the other trains because I didn't have time to investigate more. And that's about it.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:33 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:24 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:53 am Summary of my suspects: timmer, Sloonei, Tranq, INH, Luna.
PLAYA SALAD!

(joking, sort of.)
How seriously is this meant to be taken?

As seriously as you want to take it. I didn't feel confident enough in Colin's post to campaign for his lynch, but I did want to point out what I saw so everyone was aware that what Colin said was a bit shady.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:33 am
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:58 am Bad wagon is bad. This is bad. One of the other two is Mafia and getting saved. Wilgy is always the mislynch.
...what if Mac and Wilgy are scummates.
I don't know. Do you think they are?

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:22 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:20 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:17 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 am People: "wilgy is a bad vote for people scared to be held responsible"

Also people: "nah let's not vote for anybody on his wagon"
[VOTE: tranq] aubergine

still want juliets
This post is weird and I may be misunderstanding it. But is colonialbob saying people scared to be held responsible will vote off wagon? Then Sloonei quotes it, not only saying he's voting off wagon, but that he's not even voting for who he wants to vote for. If you're going to vote off wagon anyways, why not go for juliets?
cbob was suggesting that we should vote for a player who was voting for wilgy at the time because a number of people were complaining that his wagon was shady and weak. Tranq was on the wagon and was a person who'd garnered a fair amount of suspicion.

Why'd you kill nutella?
I would like to look at Wolbre's wagon. That's a good place to start.

Nutella died? I haven't seen the end of night post.
Agreed RE: wolbre wagon. Let us know what you think when you get a chance.

I wanted to doublecheck my town read on Luna from earlier and it hasn't gone away. It's still not super strong, but there's nothing here that really stands out to me as bad, and a few points that look genuine and proactive. I'd be open to alternative theories though.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:37 am
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:22 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:20 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:17 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 am People: "wilgy is a bad vote for people scared to be held responsible"

Also people: "nah let's not vote for anybody on his wagon"
[VOTE: tranq] aubergine

still want juliets
This post is weird and I may be misunderstanding it. But is colonialbob saying people scared to be held responsible will vote off wagon? Then Sloonei quotes it, not only saying he's voting off wagon, but that he's not even voting for who he wants to vote for. If you're going to vote off wagon anyways, why not go for juliets?
cbob was suggesting that we should vote for a player who was voting for wilgy at the time because a number of people were complaining that his wagon was shady and weak. Tranq was on the wagon and was a person who'd garnered a fair amount of suspicion.

Why'd you kill nutella?
I would like to look at Wolbre's wagon. That's a good place to start.

Nutella died? I haven't seen the end of night post.
How do you feel about the wilgy wagon? Why do you think nutella died?

I dont know, but I'd like to think the Wilgy wagon was good if Wilgy is scum. And that is a huge if.

The only thing that sticks out to me about nutella is her accusing speedchuck out of nowhere. But if speed were bad, I don't think he would kill her this early in the game. Perhaps one of the scum teams killed her because she was barking up the wrong tree, and they wanted to move suspicions off themselves.

Oh dang, TH was scum. Cool

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:20 am
Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:17 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 am
colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 am People: "wilgy is a bad vote for people scared to be held responsible"

Also people: "nah let's not vote for anybody on his wagon"
[VOTE: tranq] aubergine

still want juliets
This post is weird and I may be misunderstanding it. But is colonialbob saying people scared to be held responsible will vote off wagon? Then Sloonei quotes it, not only saying he's voting off wagon, but that he's not even voting for who he wants to vote for. If you're going to vote off wagon anyways, why not go for juliets?
cbob was suggesting that we should vote for a player who was voting for wilgy at the time because a number of people were complaining that his wagon was shady and weak. Tranq was on the wagon and was a person who'd garnered a fair amount of suspicion.

Why'd you kill nutella?

I would like to look at Wolbre's wagon. That's a good place to start.

Nutella died? I haven't seen the end of night post.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:54 am I think we made the best decision I was able to come up with. That's all we can ask for in any lynch.

ew. Really don't like the vibe here.

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