The Syndicate

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:22 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:20 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:16 pm I watched Long Con because I knew something would happen there, and I could possibly get townfirms or scumfirms out of it. Vigs, protections, etc. It worked, sorta. Quin threw a wrench into things.
Isn't it the same if you choose to watch Timmer instead?
Watching people means you see who visits them. If I wanted to see where Timmer would go, I'd track him. (if I even had that ability)

And then I still wouldn't see if mafia tried to protect Long Con.

Watching Timmer might give you:
>those who kill/block/redirect him - scums
>those who protect him - town

Watching Long Con might give you:
>town vig
>fellow scum trying to protect him

Isn't it better to watch Timmer instead of LC?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:16 pm I watched Long Con because I knew something would happen there, and I could possibly get townfirms or scumfirms out of it. Vigs, protections, etc. It worked, sorta. Quin threw a wrench into things.

Isn't it the same if you choose to watch Timmer instead?

Alright

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:24 am Jay - town because he doesn't bus teammates in the same way he did INH
nutella - town because tone and meta and everything else basically
DH - Town because he is
Mac - Pisses me off. Town because tone. Mafia because upset with vig kills and promoting bogus theories. Waffles.
poutanko - Town because she is sweet and innocent and has good scum interactions and because no scum would fake a cop check right now right?
Quin - Possible liar, unless he was misdirected. Townread otherwise.
Colin - Town because cop check and I've been reading him town all game. Cares about the roof.
kara - Town because genuine emotion in early posts
Jack - Weakest townread for me, but seems genuine
Luna - Town because she's made way more mistakes than she does as scum
Sloonei - Was only town because lack of self-preservation. Long Con flip changes that. Fake, scum, blegh
sprityo - No reason to townread whatsoever
timmer - Still town yo
speed - No corruption, Rigged witch hunt (seriously vig me tonight so you can use my analysis and info)
INH - Scum

Guessing that there are at most 6 scum. Long Con, INH, Nova, Sloonei, and two of (Mac, Quin, Sprit)

Game solved.

I will quote this post before the end of each phase so it is relevant when I die.

This is why I don't care that much about the cop check. I'm on the verge of my first civilian win in ages. I contributed. I can use my death to catch scum by townfirming my viewpoint and my night info. Heck, I already got nightkilled by the mafia on night one, which is a badge of honor to be worn.

That said, just because I don't care about the cop check doesn't mean Mac and whoever posits that I'm too calm to be mafia aren't going to piss me off. What was I supposed to do, rant and scream at my computer when I saw the check? Call Poutanko scum even though that doesn't make any sense? My wife was in the next room, and I'm pretty sure that would be BTSC.

So many townread here

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:25 am @poutanko What did you check night 3?

Jay, got no result and obliviated.

poutanko wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:59 pm If someone know whoever targeted me last night that person might be scum.

I didn't come out of nowhere today for no reason to whoever making a snarky remark about it

Also, the correct priority should still be INH > Speed > Slowner to whoever want to put Slowner as 2nd wagon

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:30 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:27 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:23 pm [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Lynch him. The mafia rezzed INH and could have shenanigans planned, even if unlikely. They weren’t ready to lose speedchuck today.
What’s the evidence against speed?
Pout says she has a cop check on me.
How did I miss this?

dude...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:28 pm I’m confused. Who are you talking about here?

That's to Speed actually, sorry. I have problem multiquoting (keep getting logged out).

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:23 pm [VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Lynch him. The mafia rezzed INH and could have shenanigans planned, even if unlikely. They weren’t ready to lose speedchuck today.

Wait, I prefer we have 2 wagons, main wagon on INH and smaller 2nd on Speed (in case there's a lynch redirect - this thing is common on NF).

Alright, I have to prepare my breakfast and go to work. Tag/quote me if you need anything. I'll post more later

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:22 pm Some sort of redirection doesn’t seem like it should be out of the question.

I did consider that but his behavior/post so far don't convince me to read him as town.

N3? Gee I wonder

....it's not read
N1 - Bullz
N2 - Colin

Colin is good.
Bullz/Speed is bad.
Idk how I can be clearer than this, you guys are so dense

I kept my vote on Bullz/Speed for 2 days in a row ffs.

I did reconsider some fuck up happened to me or my target but
>LC lynch was failed
>no town ability that might cause that
>"hey I think LC is good because 3/5 something something"

Add to his D2 lynch that went to someone else. Yeah, scum.

If someone know whoever targeted me last night that person might be scum.

[VOTE: speedchuck 2.0] aubergine
Do better than your predecessor.

Add Owner on most with Luna as INH is scum.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:44 am @poutanko, I can see in your post history general trajectories and with them may come implied reads, but there isn't total clarity.

Who do you most trust?

Who do you least trust?

Multiple names per question would be super.

I'll go with what I feel/impression I got. I haven't ISOed anyone again.
Most:
Colin still
nutella - actually looks like female Colin but then D2 happened. I haven't reread her posts but the general feel about her is still the same as my initial impression I got from her.
MacD - looks like lazy Colin, Colin is more hyper? this one is lazier.
kara - frustrated newbie town, I will feel easier about her if she starts posting again.
Luna - should be Town looking at her interaction with INH and their tone, not as easy as my initial feel of her.

Least:
Bullz/Speed 2.0 - I don't trust him still. I was thinking timmer/bullz/LC could be team mates (with timmer vouching Bullz after novase flip -unexpected judging from the reaction- and LC looking like he's trying to lessen the pressure on Bullz by brushing it off as something normal). Timmer's claim sounds genuine, I still feel uneasy with the other 2.
LongCon - on and off town/scum feel. His reaction on Bullz vote was not what I expected. People sussing Bullz for his weird vote on Novase is what I think would be the normal reaction, not his.
DH/you gave me uneasy feeling. Both of you are vet players/oldfags. DH just fooled me completely on Outpost. Nothing look sus if I think about it but something doesn't feel right.
Glorf - your creepy fan
timmer was here but his claim and the way he said it feels genuine.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:32 am In which I review poutanko, who has enjoyed a cushy soft cloud of a game to this point

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poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:04 pm Can't we just state we're Town so whoever have the Veritaserum can use it whenever they want to whoever they want without asking their sus about it (so not giving a hint/clue about them having the potion)?

...I'll re-read the thread in the morning, too sleepy to translate these Pumpkin Throwing fest between DH-Owner, JJJ-Juliet-Epi-Quin on first impression both Owner and JJJ come off as too strong going after their targets. Idk if JJJ is normally like this (some said he's sus, some didn't react even a bit), he doesn't seem like new here albeit he doesn't have grandpa vibe yet. Owner - last time I played with her and she's scum, she didn't tunnel this much. Her reasoning is weird tho but she's always weird by default

This post is idle commentary on thread events and contains no stances taken. The highlighted Owner bit comes close to being a stance, a civilian read based upon a difference from a previous mafia performance, but it is diminished with a prompt caveat of "weird tho", which itself is further qualified with "but she's always weird". I am annoyed at myself for not noticing this language until now, because it's icky.

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poutanko wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:29 pm karavalenge a bit too aware of your image, no? How many games have you played before this one?

Done re-reading. Nothing odd from what I see of Juliet-Epi-Quin interaction.
JaggedJimmyJay you moved your vote from Quin to LongCon, what's your read on Quin now?

Questions are nice, but their value is determined by follow-up should it exist. I'll see as I review the ISO here.

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poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:05 pm Had something to do IRL, you can chill

Also, Colin is my strongest town read He just said whatever however and whenever without thinking much (if any at all). Dude is filterless. Same with Luna and Nutella although I will put Luna under Nutella (she's not as bold as Nutella but she was like this too on Outpost game, not as bold as I'd like her to be). Out of your scum read I only agree with Kara but it's not because of picture tell

Other than Fav 7, Fav 8, This Town Called Home (you rolled scum in 2 of those 3), is there another game we're both in before?

Some people that catch my attention next

I like the way poutanko presented her positive read on Colin here, in that it sort of suited its own description -- concise, clear, and without filter.

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poutanko wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:43 pm Jay
do you have a "good" read on Glorfindel because he stroked your ego (he said you're a good player, yet to be proven, I only see nutcase ), "good" read on Novase who has 0 post and it's "bad" for Lapluie who only has 1 post because you're just good at reading people or because you know for sure they are? Teach me how to read people without post, O senpai ~

Kara
>"I am a town. Or else I'd look scum by not following along with it."
>"No, I clearly didn't want to say it myself, but felt like I was pressured to."
when no one pressured her/asked her directly/no vote on her
Based on what she said, she only had played 1 game before this one aka newbie. I'm aware if newbie player tend to do scummy things without them intending to do so but those 2 posts gave me impression she wanted to maintain a certain image instead of just being herself. Is it normal for real town to worry like that?

Bullzeye
Already addressed by several other players with his weird vote and comment he left before voting.

LongCon
What he said about Bullzeye and him thinking those who sussed Bull as weird make his reaction the weird one to me. Which part of Bull's post/vote timing/vote choice that looks normal to him?

poutanko's questions for me turned into a small Thing, so there was follow-up at least in that discourse. I don't feel like sharing all of it, but here's a link if you care, dear readers. Her concern on karavalenge reflected my own pretty closely -- blatant scumminess that is more concern for a brand new player than for a veteran.

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poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:56 pm INH gave me impression he's buddying the newbie like what DH did to me on Outpost. Him giving limited read on other players feel similar as Juliet. Guarded. He jokes more here than on Outpost tho.

Bullzeye you're asked about your read on your voters. At least you can do that much?

This is a negative assessment of INH, though it isn't stated clearly as a suspicion. The negativity is itself rather "guarded", as poutanko described INH himself. That's not my favorite thing.

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poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:36 am Soneji voters: Juliets, Lunalee, timmer, Jackofhearts2005, JaggedJimmyJay
I'll ISO them later.

Who's the one leading the vote before it went to Soneji?

I thought this whole angle of investigation looked pretty natural. This amounted to numerous other posts, including those in which she gave me crap for forgetting myself and my Bullzeye vote.

~~~

@poutanko, you can address the first point I made which is a bit poopy. Generally though I think she looks fine. Okee dokee.

Owner always make weird posts regardless her alignment (which makes it hard to read her early) but on the games she's scum (2 games out of 3 I remember playing with her), she didn't tunnel. She would go after her sus but not to the level she did to DH here.

[unvote]

[mention]Long Con[/mention]Point out which posts of his that look good to you. You didn't even think about how weird him vouching for Bullz just like that? Why?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:49 am
timmer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:39 am K, so my Pat's game is over, so I can get back to this.

Guys, I always write the way I write in this game. I don't like to push ideas if I'm unsure of them, so I always make clear that I'm unsure. It's how ive always posted in mafia. So if you are going to lynch me for it, honestly I'm prob done for good. This is the very reason ive gone such long stretches without playing, this happens every fucking time.

And long con, really? That post of mine that you said you found troublesome? I was describing my job. I was at work. Its what I do.

I'm sorry I have no major ideas to push. I'm clearly not cut out for this.

The only useful thing I can tell you is that there really may be something to the idea that the dead baddies aren't necessarily bad. And there may be a serial killer attached to it.
Duuude, I was kidding around. I'm not going to vote you because you are a psycho killer in REAL LIFE. This is Mafia.

Seriously, that wasn't me coming after you. Like I said after reading your ISO, I don't suspect you.

Explain how?

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

[mention]timmer[/mention] now explain how the hell you vouched Bullz if you're blocked??

I thought I was missing something since people dropped interest on Bullz/Tim after the talk with Jay claiming to block him and ended up with lynching Soneji. Explain the logic here, I'm not getting it??

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:41 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:14 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:33 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey

ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town
>why did you read Jay as Town then scum this DP?
>do you still has same read on MacD? You voted him last DP.
>what made you read lapluie as Town?
Considering how vague Nutella’s suspicions on me are and how her case on Jay is just “fight me,” this rainbow and her current suspicions look made up.
and you quoted me because?
Because I didn’t want to mess with the quote on mobile to only have Nutella’s rainbow?

You know I'm yet to decide my read on her and you quoted me while giving your opinion about her. You can just click the arrow and get her original post to quote if that's what you're after

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:36 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:34 pm You voted Bullz too why didn't mention this?
Because I am a nutcase and cannot remember all of the crazy things that I do.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:31 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:26 pm ...you didn't start the wagon on Soneji for that, right?
I made the initial case against Soneji. I had voted Soneji earlier in the day, then expanded on the vote here. I switched to Lunalee for a bit and ended up returning to Soneji.

I don't typically find X was saved by Y type stuff terribly convincing, because it's the sort of behavior that mafia members often avoid more than pursue just given the way civilians always respond to it. Your theory is as possible as any other though -- which voters do you think are the most likely to have been the savers, and who was the saved?

You voted Bullz too why didn't mention this?

Bullz and Luna as the one to be saved.

and Jack answer my question already

Dude, you voted Bullz too before

...you didn't start the wagon on Soneji for that, right?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:10 pm
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:07 pm @Lunalee @Jackofhearts2005 @timmerWhat's your current read on those you voted before you guys moved to Soneji?
I didn't think to include myself, but I also voted Soneji. Prior to that I had voted Lunalee and INH.

Soneji wagon was nowhere before I went to sleep, it looks to me like someone from previous wagon needed to be saved and there were people who jumped on that (the other wagons were only 2 and can go to any of them? Soneji ended up with 5)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:45 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:37 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:30 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:18 am Anyone remember the wagon before it changed to Soneji? I don't want to track the vote posts and make a list (￣▽￣)
I believe that before the Soneji wagon swelled, the prevailing two wagons were on Lunalee and Bullzeye. Owner also had multiple votes.
Do you remember Luna voters and Owner's? I only remember Bullz because I made a note of that.
At a glance it appears their voters did not move to Soneji. Soneji's living voters:

Lunalee - previously voted Bullzeye (?) and karavalenge
Jack - previously voted Glorfindel (who also had a two-vote wagon for a bit I think)
timmer - previously voted karavalenge (brief two vote wagon alongside Luna)

The Owner and Luna voters mostly appear to have stayed put (kara, Colin / INH, DH, Soneji respectively). Anyone should correct me on these things if necessary.

[mention]Lunalee[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] [mention]timmer[/mention]What's your current read on those you voted before you guys moved to Soneji?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:30 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:18 am Anyone remember the wagon before it changed to Soneji? I don't want to track the vote posts and make a list (￣▽￣)
I believe that before the Soneji wagon swelled, the prevailing two wagons were on Lunalee and Bullzeye. Owner also had multiple votes.

Do you remember Luna voters and Owner's? I only remember Bullz because I made a note of that.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:33 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:59 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey

ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town
>why did you read Jay as Town then scum this DP?
>do you still has same read on MacD? You voted him last DP.
>what made you read lapluie as Town?
Considering how vague Nutella’s suspicions on me are and how her case on Jay is just “fight me,” this rainbow and her current suspicions look made up.

and you quoted me because?

Anyone remember the wagon before it changed to Soneji? I don't want to track the vote posts and make a list (￣▽￣)

I don't trust timmer enough to read him as town

Tag me if you have question, Girls Day Out time, bai bai ~

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:57 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:52 amJay sounds crazy/random earlier but lately he sounds more sane.
Someone figured out in two game cycles that which still seems to confuse so many who've played with me for years.

more sane doesn't mean you're sane, just less crazy

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:38 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:34 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:29 am Again, I don’t know the full context here, but I can vouch for nutella’s frequent mind-changes. It’s usually a town-tell imo, but that’s not definite.
Yea iirc Juliet (and 1 other guy I think?) said the same. But then there are those who still scum read her so >_>
Care to give me some other reads? Both town and scum reads, if you've got them. I just got here and you're a player I've never met, so I'm interested in your opinion on things.

linki: I see you're interested in the soneji wagon. That's probably not a bad place to look. Do you have any initial thoughts on any of those folks while we're here?

I've given my reads before but maybe an update later after I'm home. I'm new here of course you've never met me

When I went to sleep there was no Soneji wagon so that's odd. I scum read Juliet until last night and she flipped Town. Jay sounds crazy/random earlier but lately he sounds more sane. Jack and Luna both I've played with before, nothing unusual from what I know of them (just 1 game tho, Outpost). Timmer was quiet earlier and when the votes were stacked on Bullz he showed up and became more active.

Soneji voters: Juliets, Lunalee, timmer, Jackofhearts2005, JaggedJimmyJay
I'll ISO them later.

Who's the one leading the vote before it went to Soneji?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:29 am Again, I don’t know the full context here, but I can vouch for nutella’s frequent mind-changes. It’s usually a town-tell imo, but that’s not definite.

Yea iirc Juliet (and 1 other guy I think?) said the same. But then there are those who still scum read her so >_>

[mention]timmer[/mention] if you read INH posts about Owner, it's pretty hostile. Don't think they're buddies.

...and I thought dealing with Luna in Outpost was quite something (￣▽￣)

Tbh nutella, you look very sus due to your reaction after DH questioning you and you kept changing your vote as if you're having panic attack because you're caught (with 1 saying you voted MacD but in the poll it's still on timmer which made me think you're not serious with your suspicion against him)+asking Juliet if she has a Hallow. But then you must be suicidal if you're scum and be so blatant asking Juliet about Hallow and next thing we know we get dead Juliet. Frame attempt because of your epic derping+scum attempt to get Hallow - could be. I'll reread again later to decide what you are <_<

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:03 am GTH babey

ColinIsCool - town
DharmaHelper - town
insertnamehere - town
JaggedJimmyJay - town
Kylemii - scum
Bullzeye - town
Epignosis - town
Glorfindel - town
Owner of a Lonely Heart - town
poutanko - town
Soneji - scum
juliets - scum
Long Con - town
Lunalee - scum
MacDougall - scum
Quin - town
Jackofhearts2005 - town
karavalenge - scum
lapluie - town
timmer - town

>why did you read Jay as Town then scum this DP?
>do you still has same read on MacD? You voted him last DP.
>what made you read lapluie as Town?

Is INH the type to bus his teammate early? He went after Owner D1 and Luna D2 (voted them) and his tone against them was pretty strong. If he put his team mate(s) on his salad list, it's prob not those 2 judging from his push on them

[mention]nutella[/mention] you said you're okay with Soneji lynch but then didn't join. What changed your mind?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:05 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:03 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:54 pm Okay. I'll move to [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine.
Your vote is still on Timmer btw
POUTANKO, THIS NUTCASE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORD WITH YOU.

Rejected*
All caps is not acceptable

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:54 pm Okay. I'll move to [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine.

Your vote is still on Timmer btw

[mention]Bullzeye[/mention] your voters before Owner posted her long post: me, MacD, nutella, Jay

...Jesus

INH gave me impression he's buddying the newbie like what DH did to me on Outpost. Him giving limited read on other players feel similar as Juliet. Guarded. He jokes more here than on Outpost tho.

[mention]Bullzeye[/mention] you're asked about your read on your voters. At least you can do that much?

What is this Yun Qui?

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Lunalee wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:24 am
juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:23 am @Lunalee ^^^
dismissive, doesn't put up with anyone's crap, and short posts. Go look at Outpost 31. That's my idea of town Quin.

Actually people on that game said Quin was usually chill and not like what he was on Outpost (which made him suspected there)

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:21 am
poutanko wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:13 am This Juliet is indeed very polite (and hard to read as people say)

Do you mind sharing your own thought @@juliets ? Anything you find interesting?
Well at the moment I am most interested in Bullzeye, not so much for his vote for Nova because voting a no show on Day 1 has been accepted practice in the past, but more because he posted on Day 1 but his posts were almost all devoid of content. That doesn't feel like civ Bullz to me - he's an outstanding player.

I think I made it clear that I don't suspect JJJ and I haven't read back on OoaLH but her refusal to vote for TH seemed more of a civ move to me than a baddie move. I may have more thoughts on her later when I read her back.

I'm just kind of throwing things out here, is there anything specifically you would like me to speak to?

Do you need to be asked for something specific to share your own thought tho? Okay then, do you have some other suspects in your mind or someone you notice behaving in a way that they're not their usual self? I see you keep asking people but only gave your opinion if you're asked about it which gave me impression you're guarded

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