The Syndicate

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:58 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:55 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:54 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:51 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:20 pm Would love an RDW lynch right now

So...can we do this?
......or you can just do this
That's what I plan on doing but just need to make sure the plan to lynch him is finalized and set, you know what I'm saying?
No
So...no RDW lynch?
I dont know what you mean by finalize if other people dont want him lynched then he wont be lynched smh

If mac comes back with a “he’s town y’all” read he’s probably town

Who else do you want to lynch?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:58 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:55 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:54 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:51 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:20 pm Would love an RDW lynch right now

So...can we do this?
......or you can just do this
That's what I plan on doing but just need to make sure the plan to lynch him is finalized and set, you know what I'm saying?
No
So...no RDW lynch?
I dont know what you mean by finalize if other people dont want him lynched then he wont be lynched smh

If mac comes back with a “he’s town y’all” read he’s probably town

Who else do you want to lynch?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2019 10:29 am He hasn't done anything contributive and productive this entire game and then sheep on my wagon with literal piss poor reasoning. Nothing about that is coming from a Town POV.

Here's my reason [mention]Luxurious[/mention]

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:54 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:54 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:51 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:20 pm Would love an RDW lynch right now

So...can we do this?
......or you can just do this
That's what I plan on doing but just need to make sure the plan to lynch him is finalized and set, you know what I'm saying?
No

So...no RDW lynch?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:47 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:45 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:37 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:23 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 1:17 pm
I think if Dragomir is right about Owner it’s a bus through and through
Explain.
If owner is scum you definitely bussed. There’s not really a reason to NOT townread Owner imo
I want Owner to be lynched now and have him flip scum, then when I flip town, you will be dumbfounded by the flip and then I will laugh.
What happens if you both flip town lol

Welp, sad day for me.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:51 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:20 pm Would love an RDW lynch right now

So...can we do this?
......or you can just do this

That's what I plan on doing but just need to make sure the plan to lynch him is finalized and set, you know what I'm saying?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:45 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:20 pm Would love an RDW lynch right now

So...can we do this?
Sure?

Why do you want an RDW lynch

Because I want to lynch someone from my scum reads.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:44 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:42 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:17 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
If they’re partners than Ultra’s progression was legit
>ew his trap sucked
>he caught someone as a joke it makes sense people voted him
>someone townread him for that? For reals?
>i’m gonna vote the guy townreading my partner because his play doesnt make sense to be townread

Wish nova was here to tell me if this is legit how ultra thinks as scum
I can tell you. And the answer is...kinda.
Elaborate please.

What does this mean? How many times, and how recently have you played with scum!owner outside of this game?

How is the answer kinda, and what motivates him to play like that?

I don't know how many times. I only hosted one game with him as a player and he rolled scum. Other games I played with him, he was town. The logic he used for his read on JJJ is kinda like something similar to a town and scum Ultra.

I don't know the man that well.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:44 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 2:28 pm Please tell me the remaining 4 pages I have to read are not just people trying to make Dragomir act reasonably and failing to do so.

Because it's making this catch-up boring.
The stuff that you guys find me to be doing as unreasonable is not as unreasonable as you may think.

I understand that gloating may be TMI and a bad thing and not giving town reads is also a bad thing but that's just part of my personality mate. I love being right and it hurts when I'm wrong. Basically why I keep playing mafia as I want to have correct reads and if they're wrong I'll use them as motivation.

Like come on, you guys can't be telling me you don't like rubbing it in once in a while.
Protip: be right first. Then you gloat.

You're acting like this didn't happen. I was right on Gemma being a mislynch and thus I gloated.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:43 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 2:28 pm Please tell me the remaining 4 pages I have to read are not just people trying to make Dragomir act reasonably and failing to do so.

Because it's making this catch-up boring.
The stuff that you guys find me to be doing as unreasonable is not as unreasonable as you may think.

I understand that gloating may be TMI and a bad thing and not giving town reads is also a bad thing but that's just part of my personality mate. I love being right and it hurts when I'm wrong. Basically why I keep playing mafia as I want to have correct reads and if they're wrong I'll use them as motivation.

Like come on, you guys can't be telling me you don't like rubbing it in once in a while.
No I dont because it makes other people feel bad??

And when other people feel bad because of something I did I feel guilty????

?????

Aww, you're a kind-hearted human being.

I'm not trying to say I'm rubbing it for a long ass time just like one post or one sentence.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:41 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:29 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 2:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:08 pm That would mean that Ultra just decided to bus his own buddy D1 and that lacks all possible logic. Like, I get bussing D4, D5 even D3. But D1? The person you want to fake a case on and get contribution on for D1 is your own buddy? Also, Ultra being new to the forum and bussing doesn't make any sense. The only ppl he knows in this game are Nova and me. Newbies bussing their buddies at D1 just doesn't make any sense. They don't do that.

I don't understand how you can just read their interaction and think it could be bussing.
You sweet summer child.

And he's not a newbie, he's a Mafia Championship competitor.
I meant newbie to this forum. You want to tell me someone new to a forum is just gonna bus their teammates in their first game in the forum AND on D1?
Yeah. I’ve been there, done that. Literally got a saying named after me on mu for my champs play because of this lol

Wow. I'm finna bus all my buddies from now on in coming games.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:37 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:23 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 1:17 pm
I think if Dragomir is right about Owner it’s a bus through and through
Explain.
If owner is scum you definitely bussed. There’s not really a reason to NOT townread Owner imo

I want Owner to be lynched now and have him flip scum, then when I flip town, you will be dumbfounded by the flip and then I will laugh.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:20 pm Would love an RDW lynch right now

So...can we do this?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 4:17 pm
Ultra wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:29 pm [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

I don't know speedchuck or his meta or whatever but he town read and defended him far too soon. Also switched his vote to a player who isn't active instead of pursuing DDL
If they’re partners than Ultra’s progression was legit
>ew his trap sucked
>he caught someone as a joke it makes sense people voted him
>someone townread him for that? For reals?
>i’m gonna vote the guy townreading my partner because his play doesnt make sense to be townread

Wish nova was here to tell me if this is legit how ultra thinks as scum

I can tell you. And the answer is...kinda.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 2:28 pm Please tell me the remaining 4 pages I have to read are not just people trying to make Dragomir act reasonably and failing to do so.

Because it's making this catch-up boring.

The stuff that you guys find me to be doing as unreasonable is not as unreasonable as you may think.

I understand that gloating may be TMI and a bad thing and not giving town reads is also a bad thing but that's just part of my personality mate. I love being right and it hurts when I'm wrong. Basically why I keep playing mafia as I want to have correct reads and if they're wrong I'll use them as motivation.

Like come on, you guys can't be telling me you don't like rubbing it in once in a while.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 2:30 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:08 pm That would mean that Ultra just decided to bus his own buddy D1 and that lacks all possible logic. Like, I get bussing D4, D5 even D3. But D1? The person you want to fake a case on and get contribution on for D1 is your own buddy? Also, Ultra being new to the forum and bussing doesn't make any sense. The only ppl he knows in this game are Nova and me. Newbies bussing their buddies at D1 just doesn't make any sense. They don't do that.

I don't understand how you can just read their interaction and think it could be bussing.
You sweet summer child.

And he's not a newbie, he's a Mafia Championship competitor.

I meant newbie to this forum. You want to tell me someone new to a forum is just gonna bus their teammates in their first game in the forum AND on D1?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 1:17 pm
I think if Dragomir is right about Owner it’s a bus through and through

Explain.

nutella wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2019 1:11 pm He's made a big deal of ddl being clearly his preferred lynch, but whenever there's been an opportunity to put pressure on owner he's jumped onto her and says he'd be okay with lynching her, and same to rdw and jess. He's clearly focused on ddl, but he's also clearly keeping his options open.

[VOTE: dragomir] aubergine

What in Jesus name is wrong with this? I have my scum reads. I want to lynch one of them so of course I'm going to my options open to find a compromise in lynching one of my scum reads.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 11:33 pmewhen he did much the same thing both pre- and post facto. Yeaaah, hypocrisy yada yada, civilians have double standards sometimes, I know, but I still really don't like it -- he's too eager to jump on owner. I grant her post was weird but drago made it into a whole thing that doesn't look natural coming from him.

k this is what i've got for now, will gather speed stuff next but probably eating first

Oh this is fucking bullshit. Excuse me here but I am triggered by this. BY NO MEANS did I ever do the same thing that I called out Owner for! I literally said my brag post wasn't telling town that they shouldn't have lynched Gemma but just me bragging and I explained why to you! You haven't responded to it yet and now you're ignoring it over here acting like I'm being a hypocrite when it's not the case. Why is you lying to make me look bad?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 10:41 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:37 pm @nutella How tf did DDL top your townlist?
I thought he was the most genuine sounding player, next to nova, before I subbed in. Looks to me like he is actively trying to hunt and I believe I even mindmelded with him on a couple things, don't remember what though

Hard disagree with this read. First of all, DDL ain't actively trying to hunt shit. Second of all, I've done more hunting than he has and you ain't town reading me. I'll elaborate more if you want in the morning when I wake up.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:59 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:50 pm So what do you think about my thought process now @Luxurious
I think you’re town as I previously stated

Not really what I was asking but ok.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 10:00 pm I kinda feel like you were intimidated and were hiding behind Nova but now that people keep pestering you and trying to interact you’ve opened up more

@Bold how?

Back does Speed go into my solid town reads.

So what do you think about my thought process now [mention]Luxurious[/mention]

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:29 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:28 pm
speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:21 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:16 pm Just did. Took a look at your post on our interactions. The suspicion is meh. Never expanded on his reasons and his first reason sucks.
Well the first reason sucks now, at least. It's pretty clear that you don't give a crap what people think about your posts anymore. No hesitance, not even when considering gloating.
Is that a bad thing?
Hesitance is bad.

Gloating shows that you have a feeling of victory even in a town lynch, which is not great. But if you always do it, it's just odd instead of scummy.

I know hesitance is bad. I don't do I was more talking about the not giving a crap part.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:21 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:16 pm Just did. Took a look at your post on our interactions. The suspicion is meh. Never expanded on his reasons and his first reason sucks.
Well the first reason sucks now, at least. It's pretty clear that you don't give a crap what people think about your posts anymore. No hesitance, not even when considering gloating.

Is that a bad thing?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:22 pm @Dragomir What's with the gloating idea anyway? Is it something you usually do in mafia games? (I'm going somewhere with this, please answer honestly)

It is.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:20 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:10 pm @Luxurious If you're so curious as to what I will if DDL flips this and that. Lynch DDL with me.
Lol

I still think he’s town it’s just your main talking point has been DDL so i wanted other thoughts from you

I would rather RDW > DDL rn

Why "lol"?

I'm down for RDW then. How about Owner and Jessie?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:14 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:13 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:09 pm Dragomir, I'd like to know where you stand on speedchuck presently, and how you feel about the suspicion he has cast upon you in this game.
I liked his posts D1. After that, was pretty meh, so I guess slight town. Don't remember his reasons for it.
Maybe go take a look.

Just did. Took a look at your post on our interactions. The suspicion is meh. Never expanded on his reasons and his first reason sucks.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:09 pm @Dragomir, I'd like to know where you stand on speedchuck presently, and how you feel about the suspicion he has cast upon you in this game.

I liked his posts D1. After that, was pretty meh, so I guess slight town. Don't remember his reasons for it.

[mention]Luxurious[/mention] If you're so curious as to what I will if DDL flips this and that. Lynch DDL with me.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:03 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:02 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:00 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:58 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:39 pm Do Dragomir and Tsaiah / nutella make sense as mafia teammates?

Dragomir:
~ Asked who nutella subbed in for today

nutella:
~ Half-suggests that Drago may have faked a "townslip" regarding his uncertainty about the setup
~ Opened Day 4 with suspicion of Drago | Bottom of rainbow list
~ Questions his account of resisting the Gemma lynch

~~~

Conclusion: nutella's early time in this game has in large part been spent beefing with Dragomir. One must draw a specific distancing/bussing plan for her arrival, likely born in a BTSC, if this a teammate maneuver. It's plausible enough if not an inspiring notion. Gimme a yellow.
Add: would put nutella in scum pile should DDL flip mafia

Does that change anything for you?
Wait no. It's would if DDL flips town and if I'd have to remove Owner. Because Owner is going in first.
Removing Owner was never one of my questions tho
"If you dont put Owner there, who do you put?"
That’s because you said “I guess” when I stated you put Owner there.

It looked, to me, like you didnt really want her there, but you do?

That I guess was like a lazy yes. You get me?

Sure.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:02 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:59 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:19 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:45 am The post above was blunt on purpose.

Truth is that last game I had a strong feeling Jay was civ and this time the feeling is missing.

He's doing stuff but I'm not quite feeling his strong presence in the thread as I normally should. He's not at the driving wheel.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I guess the biggest deterrent to this is the Ultra relation but eh, that stuff could be faked.
So you find it logical that Ultra would decide that the person he will make his fake case on D1 will be his buddy, this bussing his own buddy D1 for some town cred or distancing? Ultra knew full well that he could make a good enough case on JJJ to actually pick up a solid wagon on him and get him lynched, but you're just gonna throw that aside?
This is the post I was talking about Luxurious
Well I think there could be bussing involved but I dont think JJJ bussed.

I more or less saw Gemma flip, reconsidered my position, and shaded then voted JJJ before he said anything. That’s what I meant by pressure

That would mean that Ultra just decided to bus his own buddy D1 and that lacks all possible logic. Like, I get bussing D4, D5 even D3. But D1? The person you want to fake a case on and get contribution on for D1 is your own buddy? Also, Ultra being new to the forum and bussing doesn't make any sense. The only ppl he knows in this game are Nova and me. Newbies bussing their buddies at D1 just doesn't make any sense. They don't do that.

I don't understand how you can just read their interaction and think it could be bussing.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 9:00 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:58 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:39 pm Do Dragomir and Tsaiah / nutella make sense as mafia teammates?

Dragomir:
~ Asked who nutella subbed in for today

nutella:
~ Half-suggests that Drago may have faked a "townslip" regarding his uncertainty about the setup
~ Opened Day 4 with suspicion of Drago | Bottom of rainbow list
~ Questions his account of resisting the Gemma lynch

~~~

Conclusion: nutella's early time in this game has in large part been spent beefing with Dragomir. One must draw a specific distancing/bussing plan for her arrival, likely born in a BTSC, if this a teammate maneuver. It's plausible enough if not an inspiring notion. Gimme a yellow.
Add: would put nutella in scum pile should DDL flip mafia

Does that change anything for you?
Wait no. It's would if DDL flips town and if I'd have to remove Owner. Because Owner is going in first.
Removing Owner was never one of my questions tho

"If you dont put Owner there, who do you put?"

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:10 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

So yeah, what about this is a pressure vote? I was totally thinking that you were finna make an actual push and case against him.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 5:19 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 8:45 am The post above was blunt on purpose.

Truth is that last game I had a strong feeling Jay was civ and this time the feeling is missing.

He's doing stuff but I'm not quite feeling his strong presence in the thread as I normally should. He's not at the driving wheel.

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

I guess the biggest deterrent to this is the Ultra relation but eh, that stuff could be faked.
So you find it logical that Ultra would decide that the person he will make his fake case on D1 will be his buddy, this bussing his own buddy D1 for some town cred or distancing? Ultra knew full well that he could make a good enough case on JJJ to actually pick up a solid wagon on him and get him lynched, but you're just gonna throw that aside?

This is the post I was talking about [mention]Luxurious[/mention]

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:48 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:39 pm Do Dragomir and Tsaiah / nutella make sense as mafia teammates?

Dragomir:
~ Asked who nutella subbed in for today

nutella:
~ Half-suggests that Drago may have faked a "townslip" regarding his uncertainty about the setup
~ Opened Day 4 with suspicion of Drago | Bottom of rainbow list
~ Questions his account of resisting the Gemma lynch

~~~

Conclusion: nutella's early time in this game has in large part been spent beefing with Dragomir. One must draw a specific distancing/bussing plan for her arrival, likely born in a BTSC, if this a teammate maneuver. It's plausible enough if not an inspiring notion. Gimme a yellow.
Add: would put nutella in scum pile should DDL flip mafia

Does that change anything for you?

Wait no. It's would if DDL flips town and if I'd have to remove Owner. Because Owner is going in first.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:46 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:37 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:32 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:31 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:24 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:17 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:09 pm

Why does Nutella sub matter here

Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm

Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?
I thought she might have subbed for Jessie.

Not really. I read each of them separately from each other.
So you put Owner in DDL’s spot and fix your 3 scum team?

Since you’ve been tunneling DDL so long, who do you push after him when he flips? Alignment isnt like, important here
I guess.

Alignment affects my decision here though.
They tell me both perspectives.

If you dont put Owner there, who do you put?
I don't really know. I don't think into the future like this. I'd rather have the action be done and then we start thinking about who to do what on after I see the flip. If you're so curious, I might put you or Nutella.
Lol

I’m trying to figure out your thought process here. You said alignment matters regarding who you would look at next. If you’re right about DDL, why not pursue your other candidates? If you’re wrong about DDL, you’ve stated that you read everyone as scum separately, so again why not purse your other candidates?

Also, why me or Nutella? What’s pinged you off about each of us individually

Pursuing my other targets is also part of the plan but I also need to look at interactions between DDL and other players so I can find a scum buddy from it. If I find someone who I think is DDL's buddy from those interactions, they'll take priority over the others I already sussed(unless the players are the same).

Just don't really like y'alls posts. Don't ask why or which posts. More a feeling of a mine as I'll need to do an iso on you two if you want specifics.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:39 pm Do Dragomir and Tsaiah / nutella make sense as mafia teammates?

Dragomir:
~ Asked who nutella subbed in for today

nutella:
~ Half-suggests that Drago may have faked a "townslip" regarding his uncertainty about the setup
~ Opened Day 4 with suspicion of Drago | Bottom of rainbow list
~ Questions his account of resisting the Gemma lynch

~~~

Conclusion: nutella's early time in this game has in large part been spent beefing with Dragomir. One must draw a specific distancing/bussing plan for her arrival, likely born in a BTSC, if this a teammate maneuver. It's plausible enough if not an inspiring notion. Gimme a yellow.

What does yellow mean?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:32 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:31 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:24 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:17 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:09 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pm

I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.
@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
Why does Nutella sub matter here

Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm

Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?
I thought she might have subbed for Jessie.

Not really. I read each of them separately from each other.
So you put Owner in DDL’s spot and fix your 3 scum team?

Since you’ve been tunneling DDL so long, who do you push after him when he flips? Alignment isnt like, important here
I guess.

Alignment affects my decision here though.
They tell me both perspectives.

If you dont put Owner there, who do you put?

I don't really know. I don't think into the future like this. I'd rather have the action be done and then we start thinking about who to do what on after I see the flip. If you're so curious, I might put you or Nutella.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:25 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:23 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:13 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:10 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.
Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.
You came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.

Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this
But I didn't know she was town. I just thought she might be a mislynch that's all. It wasn't a town read but a hunch I got that made me doubt her lynch.

I have an issue with this because if she's trying to get mad at the fact that we lynched a townie even though the only way one could deduce she was town was based on reads and all reads differ, then that implies TMI imo. It's like she was trying to say that town made a stupid decision in lynching Gemma and shouldn't have done it get me?

I was just trying to gloat, don't see me getting mad.
... I don't follow. How were you not implying that town made a stupid decision and shouldn't have done it?

Because I just wanted to hit y'all up with an I told you so post. Did you see me anywhere in that post say something like "I can't believe we lynched Gemma after I pointed out" or something like that?

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:29 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:20 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:16 pm DDL
Thought experiment:

DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.

What next for Dragomir?

DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.

What next for Dragomir?
I'll look more into those he interacted with and talked about him in someway. My first post will also be me making an "I told you so" post.

I'll move on to my other suspects.
Get a new gimmick

Not really a gimmick, just what I'd do in this situation.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:24 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:17 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:09 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm Preferred alternative, Dragomir?
Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.
I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.
@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
Why does Nutella sub matter here

Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm

Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?
I thought she might have subbed for Jessie.

Not really. I read each of them separately from each other.
So you put Owner in DDL’s spot and fix your 3 scum team?

Since you’ve been tunneling DDL so long, who do you push after him when he flips? Alignment isnt like, important here

I guess.

Alignment affects my decision here though.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:20 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:16 pm DDL
Thought experiment:

DDL has been lynched. He flipped mafia.

What next for Dragomir?

DDL has been lynched. He flipped civilian.

What next for Dragomir?

I'll look more into those he interacted with and talked about him in someway. My first post will also be me making an "I told you so" post.

I'll move on to my other suspects.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:13 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:10 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:34 pm Nova targeted RDW last night.

---I'm kind of pissed; you guys lynched the Night 3 town doctor.
Are you trying to imply that Gemma being town is something we should have known? Because it seems like you're trying to say that we shouldn't have done that.
You came in today with a “HA I WAS RIGHT” type of response to Gemma’s flip. You did know she was town. You argued against her lynch last day phase.

Why are you, specifically, taking issue with this

But I didn't know she was town. I just thought she might be a mislynch that's all. It wasn't a town read but a hunch I got that made me doubt her lynch.

I have an issue with this because if she's trying to get mad at the fact that we lynched a townie even though the only way one could deduce she was town was based on reads and all reads differ, then that implies TMI imo. It's like she was trying to say that town made a stupid decision in lynching Gemma and shouldn't have done it get me?

I was just trying to gloat, don't see me getting mad.

Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:09 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:22 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:53 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 06, 2019 6:44 pm Preferred alternative, Dragomir?
Jessie, DDL, Owner, RDW.
I'm not pleased. You stood against the Gemma lynch, and when asked for alternatives you provided the epitome of player salad. I don't get the impression that you were making a real effort to lynch someone other than Gemma. If we follow to your suggested alternative, we have a buffet to choose from and no consolidation.
@bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
Why does Nutella sub matter here

Everything else you said is pretty hmmmm

Food for Thought:
What if DDL flips town? Where do you go then? Does it impact your rdw/ jessie reads?

I thought she might have subbed for Jessie.

Not really. I read each of them separately from each other.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:07 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm @bold that's cause I wasn't. For the past DPs I've been wanting to lynch the players I want and you guys are ignoring me. DDL? Townread by like everyone. I suggest Jessie and RDW but nobody really cares about those two or want stuff to do with them. Also Gemma became a null read once I found out about how role claims don't mean much and I only started doubting the lynch against her late in the DP. Wasn't much for me to do. Not to mention the fact that almost everyone was for her lynch, no stopping that. We'll see what happens this DP.

I don't care if you have a buffet to choose from, those were and still are who I wanna lynch. Since I'm scum reading 4 ppl and there's only 3 scums left, I'll have to remove someone, I might go with Owner but we'll see... who did Nutella sub in for again?
If you had full control over the next lynch and had to decide right this instant: who dies?

DDL

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 8:05 pm
Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:09 pm I stay firm on my suspicion against Jessie, Owner, DDL.
Do you view these players as suspects separately from one another, or are you proposing a team?

Separately.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:54 pm Do Dragomir and DDL make sense as mafia teammates?

Dragomir:
~ Dragomir's suspicion starts here - Drago has observed an apparent contradiction and is hounding DDL for it.
~ 4-point case against DDL - I do get the impression that for better or for worse, Drago is genuinely pursuing a lynch of DDL. This isn't for show. Expanded
~ Drago suspects DDL by way of Ultra - He suggested Ultra was guilty of hypocrisy and voiced that as an additional motivator for suspicion on DDL. Every moment is distinctly negative into Day 2. Reiterated | Again | Again, now in a grouping of suspects
~ I won't reference every relevant post here. It's the constant narrative of Dragomir's posts. You get the point; it has not ceased through the present.

Dragon D. Luffy:
~ DDL is incredulous in response to Drago's early suspicions.
~ There's a little shade here regarding Drago's stance on lynching/not lynching DDL.
~ Vote - The suspicion was mutual by Day 2. Again
~ DDL calls Dragomir "lynchbait" - The suspicion is less emphatic here if at all present. Reasserted via nova's read | Good GTH

~~~

Conclusion: There's little ambiguity in the Dragomir ---> DDL direction here, such that I believe Drago has truly been pursuing a lynch of DDL (and would follow through given the chance). Don't look like mafia teammates.

You seriously decided to go back and read our interactions to only arise to the most obvious thing in the game? Didn't need to do this.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:43 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Tue May 07, 2019 7:37 pm
Why’d you track Nova
Probably paranoia, I kind of forgot how he pushed on Ultra.

oops ebwop hopefully fixed

Elaborate further please. Did you have a feeling that he was scum and decided to go after him?

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