The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:18 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:08 pm Does anyone have anything to say about Tranq's contributions? They seem like your common scum slank style play.

reading Colin's Iso I found this quote.

Is specific for Mac to shade a team mate?

Mac's capable of it. I don't think that makes Tranq look better or worse given that Mac only floated the name. He didn't push the issue.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:08 pm Does anyone have anything to say about Tranq's contributions? They seem like your common scum slank style play.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:56 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:11 am Michelle and Sabie are never getting switched -- you don't BD two teammates.
And TH isn't flipping AM because then he never shoots his teammate. So TH is limited to the Master scum team, and if he tried to shoot Michelle then they aren't on the same team.

TH is like claiming vig here isn't it?
The role may be:
"Jack of all Trades - You begin the game with four one-shot powers: doctor, vigilante, tracker, and roleblocker."

How come he had a refill last night? This sounds like a lie.
He claimed he tried again to shoot but he was blocked. I think we have to thanks Nanook02 for this block.

Claiming is against the rules except with items. I'll leave you to review the rest yourself.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 1:11 am Michelle and Sabie are never getting switched -- you don't BD two teammates.
And TH isn't flipping AM because then he never shoots his teammate. So TH is limited to the Master scum team, and if he tried to shoot Michelle then they aren't on the same team.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:50 pm @JaggedJimmyJay @Epignosis @Michelle @Sloonei @speedchuck @Tranq @Dom @TonyStarkPrime @juliets @ColinIsCool

Does anyone townread TH? He seems to be the most consensus suspect and I would rather agree to focus elsewhere and lynch him via secret ballot if there's no way he's escaping lynch anyway.

So speak now so we can organize this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:50 pm @JaggedJimmyJay @Epignosis @Michelle @Sloonei @speedchuck @Tranq @Dom @TonyStarkPrime @juliets @ColinIsCool

Does anyone townread TH? He seems to be the most consensus suspect and I would rather agree to focus elsewhere and lynch him via secret ballot if there's no way he's escaping lynch anyway.

So speak now so we can organize this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:45 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:38 pm What do you think now about Speed?

He is in my POE.

speedchuck’s place in this game for me has been to exist. He is here, he is somewhat involved, and I generally don’t feel much from it. While I cannot confidently call him a mafioso, I have no reason to call him a civilian either.

Tranq wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:33 pm This is where i'm at right now:

CIV:
----
Dom
Epignosis
G-Man
Jackofhearts2005
juliets
TonyStarkPrime
Tranq

BAD:
----
ColinIsCool (not AM)
JaggedJimmyJay (not AM) or Turnip Head (not AM)
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME 2.0
Sloonei (not AM)

NOT SURE:
----
Michelle (not AM, not Master)
speedchuck (not AM, not Master)
tedxtr (not AM, not Master)

If there are good reasons to dispute any of the above, let me know.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:33 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 1:31 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 pm Michelle hating her inclusion in a POE when she feels there’s no explanation may as well be copy-pasted from Dogs vs Cats (she was a civilian and gave me a lot of grief for my POE pool).

It's not copy pasted, it's my normal annoyance for wrong takes.
You did it in this game too, and I let you be because it remembered me of that game where you were so wrong. I didn't find it as an agenda to shade me, because I compared it with the tone you have back then. Looks similar for me.
I hope I don't misread you by mistake now.

I meant that in a positive light. It’s a highly specific observation, and not the sort of deliberate meta-mimicry I’d expect.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 pm Michelle hating her inclusion in a POE when she feels there’s no explanation may as well be copy-pasted from Dogs vs Cats (she was a civilian and gave me a lot of grief for my POE pool).

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:49 pm Won't vote for:

Dom, Epi, G-Man, Jack, Sloonei

Could be convinced to vote mostly anyone else

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 am Ted
Michelle
Speed
Tony is my pet paranoia read
Colin could be bad but I don't think so
Juliets could be bad but she seems okay for now
Jimmy is acting unjimmyish and begging me to scumread him

I guess that's where I'm at

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:14 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:35 am [You have no reason to Poe me

Why should you not be in my PoE?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:28 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:01 am you shading michelle

I am in fact doing this

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:06 am I don't think AM was in the same thread as him, because I think he'd grow weary of this theory being paid attention to. So right now I kind of want to sort in the other level. Anyone got a list with who was there? i want to iso sumthin'

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 3:05 am Don't know if this was addressed, but I was thinking...If sig potentially designed the levels, would he have risked sending the anti-monitor in the main thread , the only place where lynched people die?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:58 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:56 am

Spoiler: show

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:48 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:35 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 am Ted
Michelle
Speed
Tony is my pet paranoia read
Colin could be bad but I don't think so
Juliets could be bad but she seems okay for now
Jimmy is acting unjimmyish and begging me to scumread him

I guess that's where I'm at

You know I am not your fan and put me there just to have a suspects list. You have no reason to Poe me

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:33 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 am Ted
Michelle
Speed
Tony is my pet paranoia read
Colin could be bad but I don't think so
Juliets could be bad but she seems okay for now
Jimmy is acting unjimmyish and begging me to scumread him

I guess that's where I'm at

Do any of these suspects seem unviable for one team or the other?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:35 am Not really

Really? Can you explain how come for everyone?

I don't like the first half. It is an attempt to prevent another player from putting your name on a list. That's inherently scummy.
The second half seems fair, Turnip should stop throwing out names to see what sticks. I don't know if the question is entirely reasonable, but I think Sloonei is just looking for any kind of thought process.

It's not what you say. I voted him in day 2 because I considered him wolf. It was a reminder for my vote.

What's the point of reminding him?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:48 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 2:35 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 am Ted
Michelle
Speed
Tony is my pet paranoia read
Colin could be bad but I don't think so
Juliets could be bad but she seems okay for now
Jimmy is acting unjimmyish and begging me to scumread him

I guess that's where I'm at

You know I am not your fan and put me there just to have a suspects list. You have no reason to Poe me

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:33 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 am Ted
Michelle
Speed
Tony is my pet paranoia read
Colin could be bad but I don't think so
Juliets could be bad but she seems okay for now
Jimmy is acting unjimmyish and begging me to scumread him

I guess that's where I'm at

Do any of these suspects seem unviable for one team or the other?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:35 am Not really

Really? Can you explain how come for everyone?

I don't like the first half. It is an attempt to prevent another player from putting your name on a list. That's inherently scummy.
The second half seems fair, Turnip should stop throwing out names to see what sticks. I don't know if the question is entirely reasonable, but I think Sloonei is just looking for any kind of thought process.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 am Ted
Michelle
Speed
Tony is my pet paranoia read
Colin could be bad but I don't think so
Juliets could be bad but she seems okay for now
Jimmy is acting unjimmyish and begging me to scumread him

I guess that's where I'm at

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:33 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:28 am Ted
Michelle
Speed
Tony is my pet paranoia read
Colin could be bad but I don't think so
Juliets could be bad but she seems okay for now
Jimmy is acting unjimmyish and begging me to scumread him

I guess that's where I'm at

Do any of these suspects seem unviable for one team or the other?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Thu Mar 12, 2020 12:35 am Not really

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:00 am Also I agree with Michelle, at least one of the vanilla voters are mafia.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:53 am Wow you've got your finger on my pulse. That's exactly what I've been doing.

Poe in the morning

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 9:13 am True but also oh well. We're doing good so I'm not worried. We need to sort everyone out, imo all players deserve a turn in the spotlight so we don't overlook anything. I think Jay looks town atm and that was a good opportunity to put him under the microscope

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 pm do we think the night polls mean anything?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:27 pm Nanook and Michelle defending Jay here is I-N-T-E-R-E-S-T-I-N-G.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:14 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:13 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:13 pm @juliets what is the case against JJJ?

Some disagree with his interactive analyses and his reads, he did not vote for Mac but instead voted for two people on the other team, he has not been mega civ like he normally is, and there are probably some other reasons that I'm not remembering.

I disagree with the scuminess of the analyses, he made them in the game where I lost in f3 because I followed his read and ignored my "what if he's wrong" inner voice. He was wrong but he was villager.

I dislike his wagon today, isn't Sig outed wolf?

Consider that if Jay is a villager, TH and Colin’s wolf equity both skyrocket and he can at least view all of Jay’s analysis as honest.

And if Jay is a wolf, it will be hilarious that I lynched MAC and Jay over outted Sig.

If you have the slightest idea that JJJ may be villager go vote scum Sig !

We thought Mac might be town or scum. We voted Mac. It worked out.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:07 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:13 pm @juliets what is the case against JJJ?

Some disagree with his interactive analyses and his reads, he did not vote for Mac but instead voted for two people on the other team, he has not been mega civ like he normally is, and there are probably some other reasons that I'm not remembering.

I disagree with the scuminess of the analyses, he made them in the game where I lost in f3 because I followed his read and ignored my "what if he's wrong" inner voice. He was wrong but he was villager.

I dislike his wagon today, isn't Sig outed wolf?

Consider that if Jay is a villager, TH and Colin’s wolf equity both skyrocket and he can at least view all of Jay’s analysis as honest.

And if Jay is a wolf, it will be hilarious that I lynched MAC and Jay over outted Sig.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:02 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.

Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.

i wish some details about the Sig wagon please

Dig into it. I’m not certain of anything but that voting Sig over Mac D3 would be really tempting for Mac’s team.

D3 I voted for Mac. I don't inderstand, do you mix the 2 wagons, from today and day 3?

Who lynched Sprityo? Do you have the poll?

The votes I listed are from today.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:57 pm I may not self-preserve. If I am so suspicious that I am out-pacing a confirmed mafioso in the poll, then y'all need to get past me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:27 pm I prefer lynching Nanook over JJJ in case that isn't clear.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:49 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:47 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:13 pm @juliets what is the case against JJJ?

Some disagree with his interactive analyses and his reads, he did not vote for Mac but instead voted for two people on the other team, he has not been mega civ like he normally is, and there are probably some other reasons that I'm not remembering.

I disagree with the scuminess of the analyses, he made them in the game where I lost in f3 because I followed his read and ignored my "what if he's wrong" inner voice. He was wrong but he was villager.

I dislike his wagon today, isn't Sig outed wolf?

Yes he is.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:13 pm @juliets what is the case against JJJ?

Some disagree with his interactive analyses and his reads, he did not vote for Mac but instead voted for two people on the other team, he has not been mega civ like he normally is, and there are probably some other reasons that I'm not remembering.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:05 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:46 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:15 am Looking at the sig wagon, aside from Colin I could see speedchuck as a possible addition. My town lean on him is stemming more from his sprityo post in our other thread than his entire ISO. I'll take a look at his ISO but I think that will probably be tomorrow unless someone see's this as urgent.

If speedchuck is scum he’s a lot more comfortable open wolfing than most people are, so I’m going to keep playing the odds and say he’s town.

After I read the last page of Speed's Iso, thinking at how I felt interacting with him in the previous day I think the words Nanook used above matches my ideas.
Speeds effort today shows a civvie spirit imo.

@JaggedJimmyJay I can't make a wall case but the tl;dr is posted by Nanook.

Um, my thoughts pertain to two specific Chuck posts, neither of which especially recent, so....I kind of doubt we share the same opinion if you’re basing that off his recent stuff

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 2:05 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.

Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.

i wish some details about the Sig wagon please

Dig into it. I’m not certain of anything but that voting Sig over Mac D3 would be really tempting for Mac’s team.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:46 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:15 am Looking at the sig wagon, aside from Colin I could see speedchuck as a possible addition. My town lean on him is stemming more from his sprityo post in our other thread than his entire ISO. I'll take a look at his ISO but I think that will probably be tomorrow unless someone see's this as urgent.

If speedchuck is scum he’s a lot more comfortable open wolfing than most people are, so I’m going to keep playing the odds and say he’s town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:07 am Of the six Jay voters, Tony, Dom, Epi, Tranq, TH and myself, I only see the potential for two of them to even be baddies.

Of the six Sig voters, Ted, Michelle, Speed, Nanook, Sloonei and Juliets, I have mixed feelings about all of them.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:30 pm We’ve had at least 5 huge wolf wagons at eod.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:17 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:12 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:33 pm How about a non-speedchucker tell me something about ted.

If you think I am a non-speedchucker @ me and I will focus on his Iso tomorow (in 8 hours)

You are indeed not speedchuck. I encourage it!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:19 pm I wish we got three lunches out of the inception thing

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:33 pm How about a non-speedchucker tell me something about ted.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:59 am I'm just saying if you're really the cop and you have a red peek on a player and can't say so and you're about to get lynched, you go to your grave voting for your red peek.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:46 pm Timing is good. Audrey (my first born) just got admitted to hospital. Good luck to my team. Well done to my adversaries.

Wish your kid to be well, this is worrisome

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Mar 05, 2020 7:24 am I’m not sure why mac flipping the exact role that he is required to be for the “sig slipped” theory to make sense makes it harder to kill Sig, not easier?

I also don’t super understand the demoralization given we just killed a pretty nasty scum role, tbh

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:25 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:20 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:18 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:12 pm But we need it to be more than that.

Michelle? speedchuck?

What?

we were looking for people to join the sig wagon for mechanical reasons.

I'm pressed for time. I'd like more than 'mechanical reasons' as an explanation.

but [VOTE: Sig] aubergine

If sig is mafia he has a 50% chance of starting the day with -2 votes on him. If we are inclined to lynch him and neutralize his team today, it is ideal to give him a comfortable lead in the poll.