The Syndicate

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:13 am Why don't you answer at my post about you and prefer to be quiet, why do you consider posting may help mafia?
@JiwonMeganPark

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 10:57 am My vote is probably going back to falcon tomorrow. His hypocrisy-sycophant case gets more silly the more I think about it. I think that Michelle was probably the 8-ball and the actual poll end didn't even reflect a real attempt for a night kill.

Day 1 simply handled lightly in order for us to start making a bunch of assumptions where there were few helpful ones to make. The wolves would rather let us tear ourselves apart than to risk their identities for a nightkill, this early in the game.

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:18 am maybe we shouldn't speak at night so mafia doesnt know who to 8 ball

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:01 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:16 am So Natalie suspected Jiwon, who complained about being the 8th and the wagon dissipated. Side note, Nat didn't town read Alison.
A good citizen tends to omgus but Jiwon who voted Odd without reason and kept the RVS on the same slot didn't bother very much with voting Natalie but shaded her in 2 posts.
Her vote for Falcon is a sheep of Alison

The famous 3 people wagon can be for mafia, there are few things that show Jiwon has scum behaviour, like I pistes above.

Ideas?

What do you think of cat then? He voted Jiwon, then moved to Nata without seeming like he really cared about the outcome. I know you townread Falcon.

Jiwon still seems like the 8ball to me unless you are asking me to believe that 4 townies naked voted her at the start. Occam's Razor is that at least one of them had malicious intent based on the fact that none of them seemed to have strong reasonings for their votes.

Also, who do you think was the 8ball D1 if not Jiwon?

falcon45ca
3
21%
Voters: JiwonMeganPark, Alison, Long Con

Natalija
4
29%
Voters: falcon45ca, Michelle, DrWilgy, cat

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:16 am So Natalie suspected Jiwon, who complained about being the 8th and the wagon dissipated. Side note, Nat didn't town read Alison.
A good citizen tends to omgus but Jiwon who voted Odd without reason and kept the RVS on the same slot didn't bother very much with voting Natalie but shaded her in 2 posts.
Her vote for Falcon is a sheep of Alison

The famous 3 people wagon can be for mafia, there are few things that show Jiwon has scum behaviour, like I posted above.

Ideas?

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:58 pm Lame. Yeah, that poll ending time isn't going to see me too often during the week, sorry.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:46 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:59 pm So now we see if that produced a nightkill... and if it doesn't, then we like the people on that vote? And suspect those on the next biggest train?

Or we get a nightkill and then some folks are in trouble.

Top 47 reasons your town.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:28 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:40 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:55 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:34 pm

A Failed Meeting

After a day of investigating, the agents couldn't find anything. So they decided to hold another meeting, in the same building.

But as they got to the meeting, only 7 of them arrived there. One of them wasn't in the room. They waited for an hour, but she didn't come.

Then the phone ringed, and one of the agents picked up. It was from the police. Apparently, their friends' body has been found in an alley, with multiple shot in the chest. She had no objects with her. The briefcase was gone.

Was it the right briefcase? Or one of the decoys? They had no way of knowing. They left in silence and went to their respective hideouts, wondering if they would survive for the night.

Natalija was killed. She was

Spoiler: show

Town

Night 1 Begins!

Can you double check plz? Pretty sure Nat was supposed to be Maf

Really? Is this a question you should ask?

Pretty sure mafia was absent at eod.
Not 100% but..
The air was way too peaceful and you didn't want to move your vote.

It's a joke. i tell them from time to time, with varying degrees of success

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:55 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:34 pm

A Failed Meeting

After a day of investigating, the agents couldn't find anything. So they decided to hold another meeting, in the same building.

But as they got to the meeting, only 7 of them arrived there. One of them wasn't in the room. They waited for an hour, but she didn't come.

Then the phone ringed, and one of the agents picked up. It was from the police. Apparently, their friends' body has been found in an alley, with multiple shot in the chest. She had no objects with her. The briefcase was gone.

Was it the right briefcase? Or one of the decoys? They had no way of knowing. They left in silence and went to their respective hideouts, wondering if they would survive for the night.

Natalija was killed. She was

Spoiler: show

Town

Night 1 Begins!

Can you double check plz? Pretty sure Nat was supposed to be Maf

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:22 pm Guests are more interested in this game than players -_-

Well to be fair, we do have half the roster here right now

cat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:20 pm

cat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:19 pm I'm not as confident on Alison, i was disagreeing with her all game but they seem a lot less sketch then they did to me in the Simpson game.

Who were you in Simpson game?

I was Lisa Simpson. I was sus all game and finally lynched D3.

cat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:19 pm I'm not as confident on Alison, i was disagreeing with her all game but they seem a lot less sketch then they did to me in the Simpson game.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:10 pm I'm wary of Alison right now

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:04 pm

cat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:01 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:22 am FTR i think Natalie is LHF

I expect scum!Natalie to be more involved in the game.

Spoiler: show

I have 3 games iirc with her in my homeforum and her homeforum, and I saw her as town in those games.
If I forgot about one game is probably a mash in other site where my presence was lame and I really don't know who played it with few exceptions.

@Natalija please share reads

They seems to have left the game completely though, what are your thoughts if you assume Natalija just joined the game and these are their posts?

Lazyness doesn't come so often from village?

cat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:01 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:22 am FTR i think Natalie is LHF

I expect scum!Natalie to be more involved in the game.

Spoiler: show

I have 3 games iirc with her in my homeforum and her homeforum, and I saw her as town in those games.
If I forgot about one game is probably a mash in other site where my presence was lame and I really don't know who played it with few exceptions.

@Natalija please share reads

They seems to have left the game completely though, what are your thoughts if you assume Natalija just joined the game and these are their posts?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:59 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:56 pm I don't like this silence folks

Who were you in the Simpsons game?

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:50 pm Unpopular opinion:
I knew Nanook wasn't in the game

cat wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:38 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:34 pm Michelle is probably town, but I don't care. I ain't got time for her malarkey

That's pretty towny. I think in general the aggression comes from town. A few points for Michelle too.
Would agree Long Con vote is sketchy but the attitude is towny.

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:47 pm Thinking better [VOTE: cat] aubergine

Didn't you say i'm town? What changed your mind?

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:56 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:44 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:29 am natalija made an undeclared vote on Jiwon. Also no explanation. So them and Falcon are my scum pool right now.

Wilgy is the towniest player so far (never thought I'd say that), Michelle has been fairly townie and would be extremely so if Falcon is scum. I still townread LC. Everyone else is null.

How does your reads look if I'm town? Which is a guarantee btw.

I still think the wagon that ballooned on Jiwon for no apparent reason was incredibly sketchy. Where I'm standing, the vote movements point towards Jiwon being the 8 ball for being run up very fast the moment D1 started. The fact that it quickly dismantled after I pointed that out suggests that mafia realized they were a bit too obvious and are trying to hide.

So if you're town, I'd look elsewhere on the initial Jiwon wagon for mafia.

I disagree, i dont think Jiwon is the called shot, but im biased because i found D0 sus myself. 3 votes immediatly is obvious to begin with, and shows that atleast 2 townies thought they were being sus. It's most likely Wilgy or me as the called shot.
No self-respecting mafia runs up on their target the instant D1 starts. It's more likely Jiwon is a regular townie or mafia and the other mafia is turning a 2 vote to 3 and making it look like they are LHF. But that's a big brain play so i'm not going after it.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:04 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:14 pm You could tell me you was Krusty the Clown, i had to search for Sloonei's post with the identities.

I am Krusty the Clown

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:56 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:44 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:29 am natalija made an undeclared vote on Jiwon. Also no explanation. So them and Falcon are my scum pool right now.

Wilgy is the towniest player so far (never thought I'd say that), Michelle has been fairly townie and would be extremely so if Falcon is scum. I still townread LC. Everyone else is null.

How does your reads look if I'm town? Which is a guarantee btw.

I still think the wagon that ballooned on Jiwon for no apparent reason was incredibly sketchy. Where I'm standing, the vote movements point towards Jiwon being the 8 ball for being run up very fast the moment D1 started. The fact that it quickly dismantled after I pointed that out suggests that mafia realized they were a bit too obvious and are trying to hide.

So if you're town, I'd look elsewhere on the initial Jiwon wagon for mafia.

JiwonMeganPark
3
27%
Voters: falcon45ca, DrWilgy, Natalija
Long Con

JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:20 pm [VOTE: Oddmerta] aubergine
Welcome

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:49 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:43 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:29 pm

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:18 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:34 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:38 pm [VOTE: Jiwan] aubergine

Let's get this party started

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:58 pm Is not day 1 yet to vote, but sure, you can bus your partener anytime you feel the need

So we have the posts above quoted and my guess who was ignored.
This makes me think that Falcon didn't interact with me on purpose so I voted him.
Later he is posting

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:58 pm

I am doing my damndest here! I suppose my flip would of course prove it, but I figure since you believe I'm scum then the burden if proof is upon the believer.


Ironic that you question Dr Wilgy caring about the elimination when you vote me for no stated reason

Picking from my posts what is convenient to make a scum read for me.

I don't need more to consider you scum because this is scum behaviour @falcon45ca but if I am wrong I expect you to explain yourself and show me that your first post contains the truth

Here's your hypocrisy, I pointed it out earlier as you can see

I don't see it. You can make it rainbow coloured, not just red, i just asked for a detailed explanation.

The reason for my vote is a thing I will reveal more detailed later, but first I need to know why you think I am hypocrite.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:43 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:12 am

cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:27 am Naked read is empty read without any explanation or context. Just writing down a name and allignment next to it.
I can see it's meta from your side but i wouldn't give points to someone because that's very easy to fake.

But Michelle feels sketchy for saying it's brave.
If it comes from mafia there's nothing brave about it. So my gut says it's likely mafia coming from the perspective that Wilgy is town or just pocketing.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Jiwon was completely focused on game 2 so i'll back the wagon even if it does have 3 votes already. But it felt so blatantly scummy that i'll say if it does flip mafia the voter is already on there.
That would be Falcon/Wilgy/Natalija.

A read in night 0 with so little content is brave from my pov no matter his AI.
'If' can cover a lot of bad inputs, from a wrong townie to a mafia pushing a narrative so don't tell me what's hapening if Dr W is mafia because i don't care about Dr. Ws alignament when I say he's brave.

If town he's risking few reads and when he will be questioned he will have to answer a lot, and if mafia it will be harder to push to mislim a town read he already gave and he does not know so early in the game who will be the thread consensus to elim at Eod.

OTOH I think this vote comes from town so carry on.

More hypocrisy. I also made a read on N0 w/ so little content, why am I not brave?

No need to be envious now

Can you quote your read?

It's a whopping 3 pages for you to read, but hey since I'm here, I already said since my read on Jiwan that I found her post to be sycophantic. It's like one of my first posts fer pete's sake.


Again, you're a hypocrite, as you ask others for detailed explanations yet offer none yourself.


[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

So you read people with words like sycophant, and you expect me to find the read in a word I never heard.
How is that a read?
You reffuse to explain your thoughts but I really need explanations because I am Esl and I hate when I don't understand things. Is nice to act superior and make me feel bad, but maybe sometimes stuborness becomes faulty isn't it?
I didn't want to explain in more details my vote for a reason and I said I will do this later.
By your posts if you are villager you may let paople who know me to pocket me by showing understanding towards me or let the people who don't know me to ignore our interaction with this low level of activity.
Wolves are very easy to hide in such game and you feel the need to say

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:34 pm Michelle is probably town, but I don't care. I ain't got time for her malarkey

and I swear I will not google what malarkey means at 4 am.

Anyway I find odd from mafia to say in my face that they don't care if I am villager, but my vote stays until you explain yourself successfully.
After all doesn't matter if the elimination of today is the 8th player (hope my memory serves me right) as long as a villager is eliminated and I want to find mafia not to banter for semantics.

I will be back later.

Oh my God! You gave Dr Wilgy TP cred for not using ANY words with his reads!



I can't even, I'm done with you

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:29 pm

Spoiler: show

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:18 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:34 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:38 pm [VOTE: Jiwan] aubergine

Let's get this party started

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:58 pm Is not day 1 yet to vote, but sure, you can bus your partener anytime you feel the need

So we have the posts above quoted and my guess who was ignored.
This makes me think that Falcon didn't interact with me on purpose so I voted him.
Later he is posting

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:58 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:16 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:38 pm

Don't vote for me, I'm town. Didn't you read my 1st post?

The bellow quoted post? Proove it please

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:02 pm
-//-
You hears it here first. Hard claim Vanilla Town

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:02 pm Alison - Town
Michelle - Null

Natalija - Scum 50/50 with Jiwon

Games ez, let's yeet one of those two then PoE Michelle and Cat.

Do you care about the elimination? Looks for me that you don't

I am doing my damndest here! I suppose my flip would of course prove it, but I figure since you believe I'm scum then the burden if proof is upon the believer.


Ironic that you question Dr Wilgy caring about the elimination when you vote me for no stated reason

Picking from my posts what is convenient to make a scum read for me.

I don't need more to consider you scum because this is scum behaviour @falcon45ca but if I am wrong I expect you to explain yourself and show me that your first post contains the truth

Here's your hypocrisy, I pointed it out earlier as you can see

I don't see it. You can make it rainbow coloured, not just red, i just asked for a detailed explanation.

The reason for my vote is a thing I will reveal more detailed later, but first I need to know why you think I am hypocrite.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:43 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:12 am

cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:27 am Naked read is empty read without any explanation or context. Just writing down a name and allignment next to it.
I can see it's meta from your side but i wouldn't give points to someone because that's very easy to fake.

But Michelle feels sketchy for saying it's brave.
If it comes from mafia there's nothing brave about it. So my gut says it's likely mafia coming from the perspective that Wilgy is town or just pocketing.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Jiwon was completely focused on game 2 so i'll back the wagon even if it does have 3 votes already. But it felt so blatantly scummy that i'll say if it does flip mafia the voter is already on there.
That would be Falcon/Wilgy/Natalija.

A read in night 0 with so little content is brave from my pov no matter his AI.
'If' can cover a lot of bad inputs, from a wrong townie to a mafia pushing a narrative so don't tell me what's hapening if Dr W is mafia because i don't care about Dr. Ws alignament when I say he's brave.

If town he's risking few reads and when he will be questioned he will have to answer a lot, and if mafia it will be harder to push to mislim a town read he already gave and he does not know so early in the game who will be the thread consensus to elim at Eod.

OTOH I think this vote comes from town so carry on.

More hypocrisy. I also made a read on N0 w/ so little content, why am I not brave?

No need to be envious now

Can you quote your read?

It's a whopping 3 pages for you to read, but hey since I'm here, I already said since my read on Jiwan that I found her post to be sycophantic. It's like one of my first posts fer pete's sake.


Again, you're a hypocrite, as you ask others for detailed explanations yet offer none yourself.


[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:34 pm Michelle is probably town, but I don't care. I ain't got time for her malarkey

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:41 pm Michelle's entire scum read on me seems to be dependent on me not answering her comment about me bussing my partner...this theory is of course predicated upon Jiwan being my scum teammate. Why do you think Jiwan is my teammate? Why am I your vote if you believe my being scum is dependent upon her being scum as well?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:34 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:26 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:38 pm [VOTE: Jiwan] aubergine

Let's get this party started

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:58 pm Is not day 1 yet to vote, but sure, you can bus your partener anytime you feel the need

So we have the posts above quoted and my guess who was ignored.
This makes me think that Falcon didn't interact with me on purpose so I voted him.
Later he is posting

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:58 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:16 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:38 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:05 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

For now



Natalie welcome ^^

Odd

Don't vote for me, I'm town. Didn't you read my 1st post?

The bellow quoted post? Proove it please

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:02 pm
-//-
You hears it here first. Hard claim Vanilla Town

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:02 pm Alison - Town
Michelle - Null

Natalija - Scum 50/50 with Jiwon

Games ez, let's yeet one of those two then PoE Michelle and Cat.

Do you care about the elimination? Looks for me that you don't

I am doing my damndest here! I suppose my flip would of course prove it, but I figure since you believe I'm scum then the burden if proof is upon the believer.


Ironic that you question Dr Wilgy caring about the elimination when you vote me for no stated reason

Picking from my posts what is convenient to make a scum read for me.

I don't need more to consider you scum because this is scum behaviour @falcon45ca but if I am wrong I expect you to explain yourself and show me that your first post contains the truth

Here's your hypocrisy, I pointed it out earlier as you can see

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:43 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:12 am

cat wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:27 am Naked read is empty read without any explanation or context. Just writing down a name and allignment next to it.
I can see it's meta from your side but i wouldn't give points to someone because that's very easy to fake.

But Michelle feels sketchy for saying it's brave.
If it comes from mafia there's nothing brave about it. So my gut says it's likely mafia coming from the perspective that Wilgy is town or just pocketing.
[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

Jiwon was completely focused on game 2 so i'll back the wagon even if it does have 3 votes already. But it felt so blatantly scummy that i'll say if it does flip mafia the voter is already on there.
That would be Falcon/Wilgy/Natalija.

A read in night 0 with so little content is brave from my pov no matter his AI.
'If' can cover a lot of bad inputs, from a wrong townie to a mafia pushing a narrative so don't tell me what's hapening if Dr W is mafia because i don't care about Dr. Ws alignament when I say he's brave.

If town he's risking few reads and when he will be questioned he will have to answer a lot, and if mafia it will be harder to push to mislim a town read he already gave and he does not know so early in the game who will be the thread consensus to elim at Eod.

OTOH I think this vote comes from town so carry on.

More hypocrisy. I also made a read on N0 w/ so little content, why am I not brave?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 2:42 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:15 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:12 am Also @Michelle , I'm not picking whats convenient in your posts, just your hypocrisy

Yeah sure, what else could you say, when you don't have a real explanation.

You being a hypocrite is the explanation. I gave examples of it as well.