Until the end of the posts i quoted i have several who again shows tutuu and JPIC are not aligned.
Based on tutuu is town idea, the above is how JPIC was questioning things, trying to put townies to work and adding very little to the thread.
In comparison, his posts about Bo are more elaborated and pushy.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:18 am
If Michelle doesn’t go gung-ho on tutuu then she’s lock scum
This post is the kind of meta clichees i hate.
JPIC wouldn't post this if any of us were his mates, he is shading two villagers here imo.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:29 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:20 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:18 am
If Michelle doesn’t go gung-ho on tutuu then she’s lock scum
U think? I dont think so; i think michelle seeing me wolf influenced her to tunnel me, so then seeing me town would influence her to not scumread me id think
Maybe not to the same extent, but I do expect to see high levels of paranoia
So this team knows i am paranoid, and maybe Straw speculated this by making the case on Odd.
This is interesting to see, wolves speculating my level of paranoia
I can't take out Straw from the possibility of being JPICs mate unfortunately.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:30 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:24 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:22 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:21 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:16 am
i was hoping that the heat getting off of JPIC for a while would encourage him to scumhunt and solve the game on his own time - but it seems to have done the complete opposite. it worries me that JPIC's motivation in the thread was the highest when he was under suspicion
I have been asleep the last 9 hours or so
sleeping?? during a mafia game??? the audacity....
the audacity of this bitch
No joke I haven't been in thread since like 12 hours ago or whatever, cause I refreshed the page, and the newest post was on the next page, but I didn't see it cause it wasn't on the page I was on, so I thought there were no new posts
I did this like 10 times over the past 12 hours
I want to townread you for the second bit
JPIC
wanted to TR Esooa, but he didn't do it for real.
It's the kind of read you can do for a mate.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:51 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:46 am
tutuu - town
falcon - town aggro
jayjay - town being very helpful and trying to cover the gaps and doing what he thinks is best and putting alot
mac - towny idgafaq toan
jpic - town reaction to getting scumread
fingersplints - towny way of articulate self expression
nook - towny openwolf joke
eso - town fight on jay
odd - town lack of elaboration on his hunting
alison - town weird tutuu read
tsp - gut town
kza - scummy elaborations
bo knows - gut scum
al sama - scummy for apologizing twice
Why is saying sorry twice scummy?
Tutuu's reads, JPIC being nitpicky, not w/w
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:13 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:27 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:20 am
Well that's a hell of a way to start a new page! Yeehaw!
Tell me about Oddmerta, ted and Esooa.
i thought his first few posts were pretty wolfy when i was itt
afaict he has trouble finding an actual tunnel for genuine reasons and from his iso I can't glean that he's actually reading the thread and assessing stuff like a villager would
from the few games we've played, i don't expect him to talk about someone like sloonei being scum and then voting somebody random like jpic, he seems to me more like the theory conspiracy guy. doesn't seem like he's using his votes in order to gather INTEL from his scum reads (especially sloonei)
the LC read I believe was straight up stolen from spf's call on alison - and that was probably the only villagery thing that i was willing to call slightly villagery in his iso, but it's most likely nothing
i don't like to type a lot of words, hope this manages to sum it up decently
My only thoughts on Odd so far is that he blatantly misrepresented me and said I dismissed day 0 reads which is not what I said at all. When I called him out on it, he has not responded.
Pushing Odd here, i see both Ted and JPIC are not talking about Esooa, even if Jay asked about her too.
Maybe is nothing, but if Ted was mafia was the godfather of the Gerhardts. Just another thought i can't get rid of..
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:59 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:58 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:56 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:54 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:53 am
Esooa's insistence of questioning her townclears is entering twilight zone territory tho. So if you're trying to give yourself NK cover by getting suspected or something keep going.
I dab on you dab dab dab dab
it's simply the easiest point of discussion for me with other players
Try doing something mildly scummy and then omgussing anyone who goes after you for it. Much more fun imo.
I can't even think of anything scummy to do
I'm just a beacon of townyness
Just claim town cop
The kind of advice for a mate who is not present in scumchat?
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:21 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:13 pm
@Justplayingitcool quick, top four town and top three mafia go go go GO GO GO HURRY
Town:
JJJ
Straw
Esooa
Ted
Mafia:
BoKnows
Oddmerta
TSP
One mate in scum, one in town. Nothing helpful, both Straw and Esooa are in town.
But he is interacting more with Esooa.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:04 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:48 pm
General notes and observations:
- TSP claiming that JJJ is scum, then immediately giving a tepid 'well maybe not idk' response when challenged. If @TonyStarkPrime is town, I see it as a failed provocation to get JJJ to defend himself. If TSP is scum, I see it as a failed cast of a line to see if anyone would help start a bandwagon. Wild speculation here, on my part, but this moment stands out to me.
- The @Marmot's posts here and the one two posts after it feel weird. I'm not volume-shaming at all, but the linked post reads like a totally needless justification for not engaging much with D1. The latter post, asking about multiball, feels the weirdest. After 20 pages of discussion where there are plenty of cases already gaining traction, including JJJ voting for him as of then, why go back into setup speculation?
- I for sure perked my eyebrow at @tedxtr's Oddmerta vote, but I really didn't like the almost immediate and admitted bandwagoning by @Esooa. She went from gut town-lean to gut scum-lean in an instant. Esooa is sticking to this vote, which makes me even more suspicious.
Reads on vote leaders:
- @Oddmerta is for sure casting scumreads without much backup, if any at all. I'm not sure which JPIC post he says he didn't like, nor am I sure that this post in question is his reason for voting JPIC. That said, I learned early on in my mafia days that lack of elaboration ≠ necessarily being anti-town. I'm interested in what Oddmerta has to say, but I'm not convinced of the scumreads on him yet.
- @KZA is also a case I can understand, but it's another that I don't really buy. I myself have been very self-defensive in past games as a power-roled town, because I saw myself as valuable. I still don't like KZA's take/vote on tutuu, but everything else reads as pretty earnest.
Current (mostly gut) reads (each tier is roughly in order, reasons for the scum-leans are in the notes/observations above)
Alison
JaggedJimmyJay
falcon
MacDougall
Sloonei
tutuu
SPF
Oddmerta
Michelle
fingersplints
Dom
TSP
tedxtr
Long Con
nanook
JPIC
KZA
Esooa
Marmot
BoKnows
Off Topic
Hold the fuck up. There's a 'siren' button. Did...did I inspire this? If you say yes, I will cry.
Why am I that low and why is a zero poster that high.
I think the question would be more elabotared if Straw was JPICs teammate.
If they were mates the reads list would be part of Straw's narrative, and he was universally TR because Jay said so.
He would not evidentiate a mistake made by a mate, putting a zero poster higher in the reads and he would probably accept the bus, wording differently the post, to let Straw receive a bigger town credit after his flip.
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:54 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:51 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:50 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 2:44 pm
Tutuu
JaggedJimmyJay
Falcon
MacDougall
Nanook
JPIC
Strawhenge
Esooa
Alison
TSP
Odd
Fingersplints
Dom
Michelle
Tedextr
Long Con
Sloonei
Staypositivefriend
Marmot
BoKnows
Al Sama
KZA
orange is null but painted as a scummy color to motivate ppl to towntell more
Why though?
ummm ill be honest i kinda forgot why i scumread u but i remembe someone quoting something and bolding one of ur sentences and saying they think its a scummy sentence - it was eso or nook or falcon and the sentence was u describing me as calm cool collected and stuff
there was a reason before that i swear but god knows what it was
It was the fool post or whatever
Tutuu forgot why she SR Bo, but JPIC knew where his team was in others reads and why.
Shows he as team player.
Tutuu villagery again (i didn't want to show how villagery she was, but that was what i found)
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:28 pm
i just checked post count jjj is 1st in 2nd bo is 3rd. i need to townclear bo based off volume
so we got some problems guys our poe was rly bad and its still not good i think
How on earth did bo manage to get in the top 3
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:12 am
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:11 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:02 am
KZA wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:00 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:58 am
tutuu completely dodged the question when i asked her to clarify the reasons why she townread me, even though she knew i was suspicious about her read on me. i feel like tutuu as a wolf would be more likely to come up w/some fake reason instead of just going "i'm not telling!"
she is either doing a way over the top "why would mafia do that" act or is just town
probably just town at this point idk
I am weighing this. But I cannot shake the feeling that I just don't believe that tutuu sounds authentic in many of her posts.
I am not confident either way really
One thing I thought of is that she hasn't sounded frustrated at any point despite many accusations. Last time I towned with her in Shadow Corridors she was snappy and sounded noticeably annoyed when she was widely suspected early on.
Obviously that's just one game and it was awhile ago so not sure if this is a big or consistent meta thing for her but maybe others know more?
tutuu was pretty snappy when she was scum read in GoC. I was scared
so you are most confident in your town reads...
" to "what if ur scum tho"
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