The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:14 pm Theoretically Bo goes splat today.

Wouldn't yeet:
Rondo, Sig, TSP

Yeetable:
Falcon, Made, Nook, Poison, Ruri.

What fun.
if wiggly flips red, I would say: one of
Wouldn't yeet:
Rondo, Sig, TSP

And one/two of:
Yeetable:
Falcon, Made, Nook, Poison, Ruri.

I dont have any preferences except for maybe falcon

it makes sense that you'd not want to yeet yourself, but why not tsp/sig if wilgy flips red?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 8:16 pm Unrelated note. I bought a toy frog skeleton for Halloween. It makes me happy.

I hope it's scaryyy cuteee!!!!!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:34 pm
not a threat to the civilian win condition
This is the only part of that quote that matters, the rest is irrelevant

it is not though.

he hadn't win the game because he hadn't got rid off few civilians.

"While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead."

so he would def. prioritize their kills over the scum to win the game??

that would reduce our numbers, and we will lose.

that's definitely contradicting his own statement.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:33 pm Anyways bo made ruri falcon is my poe

Probably ruri falcon made today I assume bo will die like Michelle did?

hope so. i really hope bo flips scum

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:59 pm we dont know how jpic designed the game tho bro epi

like u and wilgy could both be telling the truth

jpic could have made it so wilgy receives not a threat to ur role
I parse. It is my profession and my nature.

Wilgy's exact words were "Epi is innocent."

While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead.

I don't think that makes me innocent.

I believe others said Wilgy had a "green peek" on me.

That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?

I don't believe so until Wilgy clarified his claim that he could choose "threat or not a threat" (which isn't the same thing as "innocent").

I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."

I think Wilgy gambled and lost.

Ergo, Wilgy is mafia and should die.

It's that easy.

if he didn't win, and says "some of them" then we should expect he was never town aligned. what are we doing?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:27 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:21 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:17 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:54 pm In what world is sig a bad check

Its two checks for the price of one
What about the world where Epi (not town aligned according to himself) gets a green check?

Do you think Wilgy is telling the truth about his role? Cuz I don't
You keep saying the same things here. Where is the actual case for me being scum outside of "I don't like the way this info role works?"

Epi was not a threat to town. I do wish that Tutuu saved the shot for someone on the PoE.

A town aligned 3p would've been a good asset.
Epi made it quite clear that he was not town aligned, he was an independent and was a threat to town.
This is incorrect fwiw, or ar least not what he said. He explicitly said his wincon doesn't clash with town's

I see

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:17 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:54 pm In what world is sig a bad check

Its two checks for the price of one
What about the world where Epi (not town aligned according to himself) gets a green check?

Do you think Wilgy is telling the truth about his role? Cuz I don't
You keep saying the same things here. Where is the actual case for me being scum outside of "I don't like the way this info role works?"

Epi was not a threat to town. I do wish that Tutuu saved the shot for someone on the PoE.

A town aligned 3p would've been a good asset.

how are we coming to that conclusion, didn't he say that he did affect both town and scum? then how come we are calling him town aligned specifically when he said his wincon is to get rid off some people? if it was some "wolf" people that would have made him town aligned no? but he didn't mention that, if he was claiming 3p, then why wouldn't he mention such info? if his wincon is to get rid off someone and we are in D6, he could have actually pulled us down, if i am getting this right.

and that's why your claimed role seems a bit weird to me. he can easily be a threat as he mentioned he did wrong to both the factions.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:54 pm In what world is sig a bad check

Its two checks for the price of one
What about the world where Epi (not town aligned according to himself) gets a green check?

Do you think Wilgy is telling the truth about his role? Cuz I don't

I do have some doubts, because if i am getting this right, my role allowed distinguished factions, if one of Rondo/TSP is not exactly scum [If scum, then wilgy is definitely scum] and 112 made my results negative, and if @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME could tell Epi and Made are different, then how come WIlgy gets not a threat from 3p.

Doesn't make sense.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:54 pm In what world is sig a bad check

Its two checks for the price of one

I agree with this, sig/tsp is a better check.

but the thing is, why wouldn't one fake their check on sig/tsp.

If sig/tsp are scum with wilgy, it would still make sense. If sig/tsp is town but wilgy is scum, it would make sense.

Again, if wilgy is town it would still make sense.

we aren't proceeding much further. things aren't resolving like it should be.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:14 pm Theoretically Bo goes splat today.

Wouldn't yeet:
Rondo, Sig, TSP

Yeetable:
Falcon, Made, Nook, Poison, Ruri.

What fun.

@DrWilgy you didn't reply last day, was Made your check, or did you scum read him just by reading the thread?

Good morning

Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:30 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:55 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 6:10 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:21 am
Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:28 am Was looking through my old games and... I remember Urist was in a game on mafia451!
Urist is dead we can't use that meta anymore. Sad.
Don't think it matters when Urist claimed doc.
Urist is dead lol
I know Urist flipped. Just never saw the point in checking Urist meta when they claimed doc, which is what Poison was probably referring to.

and i don't see your point in mentioning this fact after his death.

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

I wonder how tutuu's alignment reflects on falcon's.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:26 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:25 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:27 am @Poison @Scotty @Made kill falcon tomorrow ok?
I'll read his iso later tonight.
dont we have 5 hours and 30 minutes till vote?

But I go to sleep like an old man and I am never awake at EoDs. And I'm going for family dinner atm --

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:27 am @Poison @Scotty @Made kill falcon tomorrow ok?

I'll read his iso later tonight.

Ruri wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:28 am Was looking through my old games and... I remember Urist was in a game on mafia451!

Urist is dead we can't use that meta anymore. Sad.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:22 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:46 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:41 am I could be wrong but I don't think this game is super complex atp (at least in the sense of what we have to deal with, the setup itself im sure is fairly complex)

I also don't think its super hard, tbh
what's the poe everyone is agreeing on?
Idk if everyone agrees on it, my poe is made/falcon/tutu/ruri

no wilgy?

i see

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:09 am The thing bout wilgy that made me reconsider is that he claimed a "not a threat" result before we knew there were 3ps

If hes mafia, unless mafia knew that there are 3ps in game by mech, it was his own idea to fake claim that instead of innocent

This was on day 2

Its a really creative thing to think of fake claiming, even i wouldnt think of it and id like to think im creative af as scum

So that was the reason i stopped pushing wilgy. I coudlnt be bothered to explain it earlier

but it's more like assumptions. things against wilgy are bigger don't you think?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:08 am I wish we had a desperado still, or a night vig, or a day vig. So many people I want to kill and not enough time to kill them

the problem is, we have too many claims. we have too many suspects. we have too many complex connections. and we are just getting more and more confused.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:02 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:59 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:52 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:50 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:26 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:41 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:40 pm game of champions 2020 taught me to show no mercy to independents

so u dug ur own grave epi

but i also wanna kill wilgy. let me think. why didnt mafia poison wilgy
Well if his check doesn't differentiate between 3p and town then poisoner is probably the 3p
how many 3ps are we dealing with now? unless you mean epi here.
the thing with Epi's claim is that he baited wiggly into saying he was town first then came out as 3p, he didnt have to do that and it felt genuine in the moment so I believe Epi is actually 3p he had no incentive to out and could have just coasted under the town read from wiggly
I also had no incentive to out that i poisoned boknows yet here we are
Yeah I am trying to reconcile that too. There is just a lot pointing back at you too. I think maybe you got bold and thought you could get away with a claim, that seems to be your style. bombastic
Alright i respect it

Kill falcon tomorrow and then the masons who still wont be dead on day 7

wilgy. that claimed cop stays in the game like the mummies in the pyramid.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:00 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:00 am what do we have apart from mech talk?
I have a jar of dirt

i'll put mine right next to it. and draw a thread and to papercups at the end. and the dirt from each jar can shittalk with the other

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:59 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:52 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:50 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:26 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:41 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:40 pm game of champions 2020 taught me to show no mercy to independents

so u dug ur own grave epi

but i also wanna kill wilgy. let me think. why didnt mafia poison wilgy
Well if his check doesn't differentiate between 3p and town then poisoner is probably the 3p
how many 3ps are we dealing with now? unless you mean epi here.
the thing with Epi's claim is that he baited wiggly into saying he was town first then came out as 3p, he didnt have to do that and it felt genuine in the moment so I believe Epi is actually 3p he had no incentive to out and could have just coasted under the town read from wiggly
I also had no incentive to out that i poisoned boknows yet here we are
Yeah I am trying to reconcile that too. There is just a lot pointing back at you too. I think maybe you got bold and thought you could get away with a claim, that seems to be your style. bombastic

the thing is, tutuu has a lot of infos.

i see a world where, Scum tutuu is making up the role and is eating popcorn with the news reporters.

what do we have apart from mech talk?

I wonder what JPIC is cooking, would he use the fancy plates?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:51 am This is my 10,000th post.

I shall bathe in confetti and champagne and pull a gender reveal of my left nutsack soon

Good night

what a weird post. you need sleep

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:49 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:48 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:47 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:43 am The 4 lowest posters are the mafia, it is actually simple ye
That is supremely unlikely tbh
U just said that poe makes sense lmaooo
It can make sense and be extremely unlikely, my dear pat pat

This makes sense.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:20 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:17 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:41 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:40 pm game of champions 2020 taught me to show no mercy to independents

so u dug ur own grave epi

but i also wanna kill wilgy. let me think. why didnt mafia poison wilgy
Well if his check doesn't differentiate between 3p and town then poisoner is probably the 3p
i poisoned bo using the power of a wish. 112's flavor gives wishes. 112 was the poison-giver that gave poison attacks to ppl, there's no actual poisoner i believe
Interesting that 112 isnt around to confirm that
luckily im here to link u the wikipedia page and show u the wish flavor, i talked about this in my opening posts this day

Gaunter O’Dimm

https://witcher.fandom.com/wiki/Gaunter_O%27Dimm

control + f "wish"

"In brief, I give folk what they ask for. You might say I simply grant their wishes."

"The two later reunited at O'Dimm's rendezvous point at the crossroads of Yantra at midnight. There, O'Dimm contracted Geralt into helping him finish up a different contract: to grant three wishes to the immortal Olgierd, telling him once the wishes have been granted he will free Geralt of his pact."

theres 17 results of the word wish

WHAT IF YOU ALREADY KNEW WHO 112 WAS AND MADE UP THIS ENTIRE ROLE AND POCKETED ME IN YOUR WHITE POCKET THAT HAS DAISIES ON IT???? I LOVE DAISIES.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:46 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:15 am why is this not my avatar. I'm always vibing with this gif tho
the end of an era

NOW IT'S FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:46 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:11 am tutuu makes sense as scum. wilgy makes sense as scum. one of wilgy's claims make sense as scum. If BK flips scum i think wilgy makes sense as his partner who wanted to distance himself but also wanted to save BK by not claiming they are scum exactly, but BK was always a choice so no matter how, getting no read from BK seems so fake atm. specially when he claims that 3p and town are not a threat and can be anything. it's all just too weird.

YOU KNOW WEHAT I MEAN?

okay,

If BK flips town Tutuu is scum. Wilgy can still be scum.
If BK flips scum, tutuu is town. Wilgy is scum.

If wilgy is scum, BK is town, one of Rondo/Epi is scum [even though epi is claiming independent, i am not sure what to make of that]
If wilgy is town, BK is town, Tutuu is 100% scum. Rondo and Epi are not threats. then if Nook says the right thing, Made is scum.
If Wilgy is town, BK is scum then there would be something i cannot connect dots. someone please do that for me
well I know I am town so following this, scotty and epi's case Tutuu is scum

i think tutuu can be scum as well.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:41 am I could be wrong but I don't think this game is super complex atp (at least in the sense of what we have to deal with, the setup itself im sure is fairly complex)

I also don't think its super hard, tbh

what's the poe everyone is agreeing on?

maybe nook is 3p with the wincon lynch epi

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:40 am Lol that reminds me- I need a list of everyone who claimed to have a working power on n3, because all I can remember right now is tutuu and you, poison.

that's the two i remember as well.

btw did ender claim all his night actions? we should make a huge list with every claim and connect dots imo

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:37 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:33 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:29 am Ok no balls big balls

Mafia team is bo knows + falcon + tonystarkprime + sigurd

FINAL answer
This POE makes sense.

Guess we’ll see if bo flips red today!

If we’re lucky, both of you will
what do you think of wilgy according to BK's flip?
Not wholly related in interaction standpoint, IMO. Unless I’m misremembering.

Won’t have changed. Tho if Bo flips red today, we’ll all have the night to think about it.

Also there’s no freaking way I survive this night. I’m surprised mafia have strung me along this far.

this is the weirdest game i'm playing this year.ffs.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:05 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:59 pm we dont know how jpic designed the game tho bro epi

like u and wilgy could both be telling the truth

jpic could have made it so wilgy receives not a threat to ur role
I parse. It is my profession and my nature.

Wilgy's exact words were "Epi is innocent."

While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead.

I don't think that makes me innocent.

I believe others said Wilgy had a "green peek" on me.

That's obviously false and did Wilgy dispute that verbiage?

I don't believe so until Wilgy clarified his claim that he could choose "threat or not a threat" (which isn't the same thing as "innocent").

I doubt the host would call me "not a threat."

I think Wilgy gambled and lost.

Ergo, Wilgy is mafia and should die.

It's that easy.

All these makes sense

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:59 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:19 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:09 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 5:06 pm i guess epi + wilgy + rondo + boknows team could make sense. nothing too crazy, i can believe it
Why "could" it make sense?

What leads to believe I am teammates with Wilgy and Rondo and BoKnows?
because i think that if wilgy is mafia he claimed green on both of his partners
I know this to be false. if Wigly is red I agree Bo could be and most likely is red but I am green

honestly, yes i see a connection there for some reason.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:32 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:29 am Ok no balls big balls

Mafia team is bo knows + falcon + tonystarkprime + sigurd

FINAL answer
This POE makes sense.

Guess we’ll see if bo flips red today!

If we’re lucky, both of you will

what do you think of wilgy according to BK's flip?

if TSP and sig are scum together, I'm lynching tsp everygame. man's too powerful.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:51 pm Despite all this fantastic new information, I still think tutuu is scum

this tbh. this phase is going wild with all the claims, i think we were guessing osmething right and then scum messed up everything and now we only get waves of new infos and get lost.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:27 am
Poison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:25 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:40 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:38 pm so made is still town. difference check with epi

wilgy claimed his peek doesnt differentiate between town and 3p

so theres ... that ....
Well, by that logic, made can be either town or mafia
everyone can be. someone is lying about their claims. big lies.
I think falcon is lying about his claims.

He ain’t no bird at all

what did he claim?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:45 pm So if Epi is the 3p.,,,

Does that mean we operate under the assumption that there are multiple 3p’s, or mafia teams? Because 112 and MR were not aligned.

I’m guessing multiple 3p’s.

that drags tutuu in a rreally bad spot imo

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:41 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:40 pm game of champions 2020 taught me to show no mercy to independents

so u dug ur own grave epi

but i also wanna kill wilgy. let me think. why didnt mafia poison wilgy
Well if his check doesn't differentiate between 3p and town then poisoner is probably the 3p

how many 3ps are we dealing with now? unless you mean epi here.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:40 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Sep 07, 2021 10:38 pm so made is still town. difference check with epi

wilgy claimed his peek doesnt differentiate between town and 3p

so theres ... that ....
Well, by that logic, made can be either town or mafia

everyone can be. someone is lying about their claims. big lies.

why is this not my avatar. I'm always vibing with this gif tho

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:09 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:05 am Poison + Tutuu equity here
This man is on fire

what's up with a new wagon on falcon now.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:05 am Poison + Tutuu equity here

we are basically having a tea party while planning mass-bombing, can't you see. smh. help me out with the claims and everything

tutuu makes sense as scum. wilgy makes sense as scum. one of wilgy's claims make sense as scum. If BK flips scum i think wilgy makes sense as his partner who wanted to distance himself but also wanted to save BK by not claiming they are scum exactly, but BK was always a choice so no matter how, getting no read from BK seems so fake atm. specially when he claims that 3p and town are not a threat and can be anything. it's all just too weird.

YOU KNOW WEHAT I MEAN?

okay,

If BK flips town Tutuu is scum. Wilgy can still be scum.
If BK flips scum, tutuu is town. Wilgy is scum.

If wilgy is scum, BK is town, one of Rondo/Epi is scum [even though epi is claiming independent, i am not sure what to make of that]
If wilgy is town, BK is town, Tutuu is 100% scum. Rondo and Epi are not threats. then if Nook says the right thing, Made is scum.
If Wilgy is town, BK is scum then there would be something i cannot connect dots. someone please do that for me

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 12:59 am Bro poison lol

Wilgy claimed

n1 bo knows failed

N2 rondo not a threat

N3 ruri failed

N4 epignosis not a threat

Epi claimed independent

Somehow we are chopping me over him or falcon doe

i think everyone in this game is just fed up with life and decided to choose the expired milk carton.

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