The Syndicate

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 5:29 pm He has a huge crush on me, can't you tell

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:52 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:45 pm The thing is I wouldn't trust a claimed cop reads who is alive in D6 after claiming at least 2 cycles ago. @DrWilgy when did you claim?

Day 3.

The problem with not trusting me based on me being alive is the lack of context. Mafia had to spend 2 cycles on townfirms Scotty/Alison and then a cycle on the doctor. Claiming so early turns me into a tempo battle rather than a threat to remove. i.e. if they can block me enough and remove other townfirms around me, it makes it so we don't have more than me + 1 or 2 others cleared at a time. That's why I think it's pivotal that we are correct today, as I don't see either ME or my confirms living long.

It's all too possible that I'm perpetually blocked while they kill off my checks in Rondo/Sig, making it so I lose 1 townfirm per cycle and negating me.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:15 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:12 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:52 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:27 pm I started to doubt rondo too a bit. I didn't like the post tutuu flip rondo reaction

this is where you slow roll your town read on me switching to wolf

Oh no, I'm the prayer who scum read and tunnled another player for 7 days before and town reads on the 8th amd hammers someone else in f3 and loses the game.



Dw I'll shock you with my sudden read change. But are you triggered that I don't like a single reaction from you?

I am just perplexed as to my whole town game being scummy day 1-2 and this is what makes you think I am scummy

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:54 pm Still no one being interested in the Falcon Slot boggles me.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:52 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:27 pm I started to doubt rondo too a bit. I didn't like the post tutuu flip rondo reaction

this is where you slow roll your town read on me switching to wolf

Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:41 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:37 pm

Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:35 pm Or maybe there's no 3p and scum are just all different colors.

Alright well that'd imply Epi is scum, appeared as non threat to me, and then said I'm scum for saying he's not a threat. This isn't the case. Epi was 3p.

Or maybe your check was manipulated. That would explain why you're alive after claiming. Not sure how it works here, but in homesite, threats would collectively refer to non-towns. So, I did find it sus that your check on Epi was wrong.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:37 pm

Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:35 pm Or maybe there's no 3p and scum are just all different colors.

Alright well that'd imply Epi is scum, appeared as non threat to me, and then said I'm scum for saying he's not a threat. This isn't the case. Epi was 3p.

Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:35 pm Or maybe there's no 3p and scum are just all different colors.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:27 pm How many scum are left? 4? Do we lose after this?

Yeah, lol, if this is a misyeet and if the poison shot is on town, if there are 4 scum remaining, the game is over. I hope it's 3, but this was a big numbers game. Not sure what to fink.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:25 pm What if it's just Falcon, Bo, Nook?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:19 pm MRs name does imply he's the main mafia team though. So I may say we should operate under the assumption that both 112 and Epi were our 3rd parties.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:15 pm Yeah, I may be convincing myself of something that just loses the game for town, but I really don't think it's Made.

The MR interaction feels like it's not W/W.

If BoSyn flips RED there's no way it's Made.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:13 pm @Ruri, change your vote you goober.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:42 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:24 am I think the Elmo is a wolf they said something wolfy

Low key been thinking this as well.

Thinking about doing some ISO work but the fever keeping me at bay.

Made wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:42 pm I’ll agree the game isn’t crazy hard rn if Bosyn is scum. If he’s town, re-evaluate

sig wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:03 am What’re the chances that mafia aren’t paying attention?

That would point to an inactive player. Since again the chop way doesn’t make sense based off claims

Also I’m boggled that we’ve had three non town flops and all are different colors

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:40 am Anyways scumWilgy checking sig/tsp only makes if they're all partnered, it isn't KILO presumably (assuming 3 mafia alive max) so that play doesn't make sense today

ScumWilgy isn't gonna claim town check on townSig when it creates two clears, that puts you in a super narrow window to operate in

Made wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:32 am I need another thread town read I can trust without having to think too much about it.... @poison you still think voting me is silly af right?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:12 pmK

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:30 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:02 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:01 pm because they read me as town. Even if they are wolf more people reading me town means its a higher likelihood of me being town. I mean everyone could be wrong but wolves could be setting me up for a mislynch later to say "See I told you he was town"

you could be a lylo chop mislynch if you're town. I see it.

Do you not think Alisons case on me was solid?

The problem is, every single power we have talked about bar yours and wiggly is 2 shot. The only reason I am not pushing wiggly is because it keeps me alive for another day.

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:11 pm wait. I just realized.

Wilgy has me town on Mecs and Nanook should know that

[VOTE: Nook] aubergine
@DrWilgy right?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:30 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:26 am I still don't really think this game is hard tbh, i think if we kill ruri/falcon/made/bo we win like 90% of the time

objectively what are the chances you are scum?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:29 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:26 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:22 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:45 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:34 pm

not a threat to the civilian win condition

This is the only part of that quote that matters, the rest is irrelevant

it is not though.

he hadn't win the game because he hadn't got rid off few civilians.

"While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead."

so he would def. prioritize their kills over the scum to win the game??

that would reduce our numbers, and we will lose.

that's definitely contradicting his own statement.

Everything he said about whether he's a threat or not is totally meaningless other than the snippet I highlighted. It doesn't matter if he's potentially detrimental to town, it ONLY matters that his wincon is compatible with town's.

In other words, if town doesn't need to kill him to win, he woild be classified as Not A Threat. Whether he has to kill a town or can shoot a town or can win with either alignment is totally irrelevant and meaningless, the ONLY thing that matters is whether town has to kill him to win or not. According to epi town did not have to kill him to win.

Okay, and why are we believing Epi's wincon claim exactly?

Epi wanted to yeet someone, can be wilgy, can be someone else, if wilgy, he thought it is good to let out that info and lynch wilgy. But to save himself can he not lie about his wincon? [in that scenario I would town read wilgy, cause he said he needed some civilians dead]

I don't think he'd out if he couldn't win with town tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:26 am I still don't really think this game is hard tbh, i think if we kill ruri/falcon/made/bo we win like 90% of the time

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:22 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:45 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:34 pm

not a threat to the civilian win condition

This is the only part of that quote that matters, the rest is irrelevant

it is not though.

he hadn't win the game because he hadn't got rid off few civilians.

"While I'm not a threat to the civilian win condition (beyond needing some of them dead), I DO need some of them dead."

so he would def. prioritize their kills over the scum to win the game??

that would reduce our numbers, and we will lose.

that's definitely contradicting his own statement.

Everything he said about whether he's a threat or not is totally meaningless other than the snippet I highlighted. It doesn't matter if he's potentially detrimental to town, it ONLY matters that his wincon is compatible with town's.

In other words, if town doesn't need to kill him to win, he woild be classified as Not A Threat. Whether he has to kill a town or can shoot a town or can win with either alignment is totally irrelevant and meaningless, the ONLY thing that matters is whether town has to kill him to win or not. According to epi town did not have to kill him to win.

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:01 pm

Ruri wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:55 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:47 am

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:44 am I don't really have an issue with Ruri's list? Like it's so blatantly not a readslist that I I don't think it was meant to be one.

I think its scum busywork. Why as town post a formatted readslist with bolded headings to let us know which people uve played with before 12 hours before EOD and not at the start of the game?

I thought the mindset was "im scum, i need to appear busy"

IDEK when EOD is. And this is actually NAI from me.

When is EOD BTW?

Ruri being defended by Radishes isn't the best look, but I don't know how good Radishes spew has been this game. Gonna check for Scotty's analysis of that

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:18 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:56 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:51 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:59 pm IMPORTANT POST, CLICK THRU ALL OF THE SPOILERS

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Im hiding these under spoilers so its hard to read so people cant unvote me at the last second

Im a vengeful townie. When I get chopped I can kill someone who was on my wagon (and stayed there at the end). The death is instant, so if they survive, they got a BP vest.

Im not feeling confident making a shot to kill mafia. I am going to kill epi because he is not town and he has been playing anti-town. I don’t give a fuck if he can win with town. He picked the wrong bitch to mess with. If he wanted to win with town then he should have actually helped town, not hurt it.

If I had bigger balls I would have shot TSP or sig but I just don't have them bro. If they are town and I throw the game I'd legit cry IRL.

If Epi unvotes me at the last second, I will shoot Falcon. If Falcon is also not available, I will shoot Ruri. If Ruri is not available, I will shoot Made. If Made is not available, I will shoot Wilgy. If Wilgy is not available, I will shoot TSP. If not, Sig. Then Nanook. Then Poison. Should be enough names.

Radishes visited me n1. I think it is very likely I was rolecopped and Mafia has known my role since day 2. Role copping me makes sense, I was playing chill, Mafia could have thought I was an important PR or 3p.

Listen, look at the people who have AVOIDED being on my wagon at eod. If I’m right that Mafia has known my role all this time, those people are more scummy than those on my wagon. Because they wanted to avoid getting shot. That's another reason why I'm not going to try to make a shot to kill Mafia. I think Mafia might be prepared for this and not make themselves an easy target for my bullet. Unless TSP and sig are just ballsy. I don't know man lol....

If someone unvotes me at the last second – THEY ARE OUTED MAFIA. KILL THEIR BITCH ASS

If not – still, do consider that the people avoiding to vote me look more scummy. I'm looking at falcon.

I say this, and yet I still scumread TSP and sig even tho they are on my wagon. I dunno lmao.

I think that sig and therefore TSP is mafia. There is just no other answer. Unless one or multiple of the dead villagers were wrong. Mac scumread sig and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Made is town because his claim his towny, and Alison townread him and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Falcon is mafia. Scotty made a good case on him. Disregard the dead villagers saying falcon is town. We shouldn’t sheep dead villagers, they’re dead coz they’re bad.

I think that Ruri is town because Michelle was very convinced she was town and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Nanook is town because of his independent push on Epi earlier this game, the way he pushed me now, risking getting his ass shot if he knew my role (so he probably didn’t know my role?). Alison also townread Nanook and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Wilgy is town because his claim elaborated not-a-threat on his result BEFORE we got a flipped 3p. I think it’s too wild for scum!wilgy to not know there is a 3p and still go with it. That is unless he is Mafia and knew there was 3p due to maybe Radishes rolecopping 112 N2 which he did. I don’t know.

I think Rondo is town because he is peeked town. But in every other way he feels like a wolf. But he is peeked town so idk.

I think that Poison is town because … she just seems innocent idk. I don’t see a team that she fits with.

Once again, elaborating on the poison kills since a lot of yall are allergic to reading

112 forced me to take a wish. I successfully protected Scotty on N3. I successfully “killed” BoKnows n4 (which ended up being a poison, I did not know that it would be a poison). Both of these were wishes from 112.

I did not poison Michelle and Ender. 112 is responsible, either directly or indirectly for their deaths, I think.

There is no Mafia poisoner, I think.

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

Just a reminder of what tutuu has said

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot.

Falcon and Made were on Epi, is there equity that they are both wolves and trying to yeet each other for credit? They would both want to get Epi out of the game if they were mafia and he is a 3p that could win with town.

Ruri and Wiggly were on TSP, has anyone noted their interactions in the past to each other and to TSP and if that makes sense?

Bo/Syn was pretty quiet yesterday and I believe in anti spew mode considering Tutuu has flipped town it is likely they flip wolf since we are in a target rich environment.

Also the fact that Ruri, wiggly, falcon and made were all on effectively vanity wagons (I dont consider mine a vanity wagon because Tutuu was a confirmed town and falcon is being scummy, but hey it could be if you wanted to call it one) does not look good.

Wdym tutuu was a confirmed town?

she ded, flip town

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:18 am

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 4:53 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot

why are you explaining this when not questioned ? is it because Tutuu called out people who didn't want to be on her wagon cause she feared mafia would know she is vengeful and wouldn't dare to be there?

Because unlike some people I like to get out ahead of things that look scummy so that someone else cant use it against me instead of hoping people dont see it

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:00 pm Someone shoulda poisoned poison.

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:50 pm The fact that i'm being pushed over synknows is also kinda sus. I feel like town would still be mad curious about that slot in the abstract

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:51 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:59 pm IMPORTANT POST, CLICK THRU ALL OF THE SPOILERS

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Spoiler: show

Im hiding these under spoilers so its hard to read so people cant unvote me at the last second

Im a vengeful townie. When I get chopped I can kill someone who was on my wagon (and stayed there at the end). The death is instant, so if they survive, they got a BP vest.

Im not feeling confident making a shot to kill mafia. I am going to kill epi because he is not town and he has been playing anti-town. I don’t give a fuck if he can win with town. He picked the wrong bitch to mess with. If he wanted to win with town then he should have actually helped town, not hurt it.

If I had bigger balls I would have shot TSP or sig but I just don't have them bro. If they are town and I throw the game I'd legit cry IRL.

If Epi unvotes me at the last second, I will shoot Falcon. If Falcon is also not available, I will shoot Ruri. If Ruri is not available, I will shoot Made. If Made is not available, I will shoot Wilgy. If Wilgy is not available, I will shoot TSP. If not, Sig. Then Nanook. Then Poison. Should be enough names.

Radishes visited me n1. I think it is very likely I was rolecopped and Mafia has known my role since day 2. Role copping me makes sense, I was playing chill, Mafia could have thought I was an important PR or 3p.

Listen, look at the people who have AVOIDED being on my wagon at eod. If I’m right that Mafia has known my role all this time, those people are more scummy than those on my wagon. Because they wanted to avoid getting shot. That's another reason why I'm not going to try to make a shot to kill Mafia. I think Mafia might be prepared for this and not make themselves an easy target for my bullet. Unless TSP and sig are just ballsy. I don't know man lol....

If someone unvotes me at the last second – THEY ARE OUTED MAFIA. KILL THEIR BITCH ASS

If not – still, do consider that the people avoiding to vote me look more scummy. I'm looking at falcon.

I say this, and yet I still scumread TSP and sig even tho they are on my wagon. I dunno lmao.

I think that sig and therefore TSP is mafia. There is just no other answer. Unless one or multiple of the dead villagers were wrong. Mac scumread sig and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Made is town because his claim his towny, and Alison townread him and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Falcon is mafia. Scotty made a good case on him. Disregard the dead villagers saying falcon is town. We shouldn’t sheep dead villagers, they’re dead coz they’re bad.

I think that Ruri is town because Michelle was very convinced she was town and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Nanook is town because of his independent push on Epi earlier this game, the way he pushed me now, risking getting his ass shot if he knew my role (so he probably didn’t know my role?). Alison also townread Nanook and we should sheep dead villagers

I think that Wilgy is town because his claim elaborated not-a-threat on his result BEFORE we got a flipped 3p. I think it’s too wild for scum!wilgy to not know there is a 3p and still go with it. That is unless he is Mafia and knew there was 3p due to maybe Radishes rolecopping 112 N2 which he did. I don’t know.

I think Rondo is town because he is peeked town. But in every other way he feels like a wolf. But he is peeked town so idk.

I think that Poison is town because … she just seems innocent idk. I don’t see a team that she fits with.

Once again, elaborating on the poison kills since a lot of yall are allergic to reading

112 forced me to take a wish. I successfully protected Scotty on N3. I successfully “killed” BoKnows n4 (which ended up being a poison, I did not know that it would be a poison). Both of these were wishes from 112.

I did not poison Michelle and Ender. 112 is responsible, either directly or indirectly for their deaths, I think.

There is no Mafia poisoner, I think.

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

Just a reminder of what tutuu has said

Final reads:
TOWN:
Scotty
Rondo
Nanook
Ruri
Made
Wilgy
Poison

MAFIA:
Sig
TSP
Falcon

if this is all wrong - listen to nanook's poe. check the people who have avoided voting me

falcon, made, ruri, wilgy, rondo(?)

Falcon fits with multiple people and I wish him dead the most. Good luck yall

[VOTE: falcon ] aubergine

to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot.

Falcon and Made were on Epi, is there equity that they are both wolves and trying to yeet each other for credit? They would both want to get Epi out of the game if they were mafia and he is a 3p that could win with town.

Ruri and Wiggly were on TSP, has anyone noted their interactions in the past to each other and to TSP and if that makes sense?

Bo/Syn was pretty quiet yesterday and I believe in anti spew mode considering Tutuu has flipped town it is likely they flip wolf since we are in a target rich environment.

Also the fact that Ruri, wiggly, falcon and made were all on effectively vanity wagons (I dont consider mine a vanity wagon because Tutuu was a confirmed town and falcon is being scummy, but hey it could be if you wanted to call it one) does not look good.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:46 pm to address my being off tutuu is two fold, towards the end I saw too many people on her wagon which changed my mind about her being scum, so I formed a counter wagon with her on falcon in case there was anyone who wanted to pivot