The Syndicate

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:09 am I think I'll rather choose this path believing in myself.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

yikes

anyway i'm up $3,500 over the last two days so not gonna be here

out cellying

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:46 am
112 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:13 am whoever's hedging me is maf
It's me. I forgot to not bus yesterday so I cased MR.

But you're totally right I'm maf.

GOTTEM.

i'm being confbiased

for shame

whoever's hedging me is maf

why me

if BK roleclaims I can probably verify it.

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:31 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:29 pm one of TSP-112-Rondo doesn't have the same alignment as me, one of them is guaranteed anti-town.
That begs the question, doesn't it?
the question ?

the question is what you ask of the institution.

the system: i am in charge
112: i question that

basically it is the grandiose superego's response to what it views as persecutory or otherwise authoritarian measures and processes within structures of government and the world of power which conspire to direct our lives and restrict our freedoms.

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:30 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:29 pm one of TSP-112-Rondo doesn't have the same alignment as me, one of them is guaranteed anti-town.
@112

oh epic

i'd guess tsp but could be rondo

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:27 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:27 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:26 pm okay I have some interesting news
this will go well with my uninteresting news.
this involves you

prove it

Poison wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:26 pm okay I have some interesting news

this will go well with my uninteresting news.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:16 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:36 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:30 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:50 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:37 pm Voters: MacDougall, KZA, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Michelle, Epignosis, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
Michelle

For my own reference.
I'll pass on Michelle.

That leaves me with Nanook, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Rondo, and Ender.

Nanook is all grunts. Whatever.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 8:18 am [VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:00 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:59 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:58 pm Just got home from a party.

Who am I voting for?
This is wolf
It is not. I've missed 600 posts and didn't know Dya was in the game.
This second post was two minutes before the deadline.

The move from Scotty (who is a civilian, correct?) to Dya at the eleventh hour without any context or care looks like shit.

Perhaps this has been talked about and I haven't read it, but Master Radishes came in, voted Dya without knowing Dya was in the game. That's how it reads to me right now.
I arrived home right before the deadline. I was hundreds of posts behind, Syn and Dya were the wagon options, and the one I was on was dead. I noticed Dya was now in the game but didn't have time to figure out why they had a wagon; all I saw was that it was the one with the most last minute momentum and a lot of people I townread were on it. I didn't have time to parse the nuances of it, so I just sheeped Mac, KZA, and Rondo.
Epi is flat town too lmao.

I will take no dissent on this for now.
What do you make of those that want to keep the door of suspicion on me open?

I count Nanook, Scotty, tutuu, 112.

I think it's quite obvious I'm not mafia, but at least these four wish to continue to entertain the notion.

i've read 1/5 of the thread, no hate

nvm there are tons of players in the game still, not sure why everyone is being left out of the lists

sig, tsp, ruri, (nanook slighly) suspicious too. bo easily poe.

anyone i've mentioned in these last two posts is probably mafia if there is not hard mech on them that makes them town. others are probably town but should be upper poe if there's no mech on them. and i'm not scum but if you want to chop me it's okay. i'm not going to put up a fight past legacy stuff and passive-aggressive telling off. as in does MR hedge me like that if we're wolfmates? no, he busses. i seriously wonder if nobody on this site has been paying attention to the last ten years of CDC forum mafia metagame sometimes.

poison, wilgy, falcon

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:10 pm
112 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:29 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:00 pm Unless she's exactly with scotty tutu is just town

And uh that's obviously not a world so

Tutu is town
i already knew tutuu was town a long time ago
Is it because you are scum?

I refuse to answer out of principle.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:00 pm Unless she's exactly with scotty tutu is just town

And uh that's obviously not a world so

Tutu is town

i already knew tutuu was town a long time ago

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

prefer this to bk but agree with bk as the other wagon

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:43 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:41 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:36 pm @112 what is your opinion of the other semi wagon right now (tutuu)?

Last I checked in your iso was you saying she was maybe scum- then taking her word that she was not- at face value.

Now?
i think she's town and don't remember saying she might not be
Early D1. Couldn’t find any other indication in your iso that you had a read on her since

D1 was several years ago.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:36 pm @112 what is your opinion of the other semi wagon right now (tutuu)?

Last I checked in your iso was you saying she was maybe scum- then taking her word that she was not- at face value.

Now?

i think she's town and don't remember saying she might not be

@Urist - looking at the wagons and your vote sticks out because it's not a gametheory i've seen being pushed much here. i don't mean to ask in a critical way - actually interested in the vote - but can you summarize your thoughts on epi for me?

honestly the dirty bird theory may well be the way to go here with falcon the most suspicious canuck whilst also receiving the least amount of attention

Bo voting Rondo is definitely a Bo vote.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:15 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:10 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:10 pm bk posting minimally is a worse look for him than anything MR has done since my working memory of this game starts
and by 'minimally' i do not mean posting sparsely but posting few words when he does

he's trying not to give anything of himself away imo
Not feeling it... wasn't gonna play originally but got asked to sub again so I did.

idk

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:18 pm
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:04 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:21 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:13 am
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am 112 says based on long time knowledge of playing with MR she scum reads him. but doesn't really deliver on that sight besides giving cheeky zingers (#5126).

112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:35 pm im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?
MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum
I also don't like the selfawareness in this post with no change in thoughts here, especially after Koba's flip she was equally confident on. 112 should be more lost right now imo

I went into this looking for a MR scum read but then I thought about it more: The telling thing here may be the read MR has on 112...

Unfortunately, MR claims not to be able to read 112 very well. That said, he gives more specific descriptions of 112 and her scum range, but doesn't land anywhere definite (#817 & #809)

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm 112 harbouring a constant low-key suspicion of me probably a townie point for her tbh.
this complicates things however....Mafia is effing hard.

@112 is there ever a world where your interactions with MR right now are T/T?

@Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?
i townread koba before their death. you're quoting earlier stuff and i am never wrong on my reads.

yes there is a world where we're t/t
You townreading Koba means nothing, especially if the wagons were t/t.

Also, made wasn’t even referring to Koba in this post you’re responding to
are you sure?
I see a bit of your confidence being high after Koba flip, but your answer doesn’t really reference the chunk of his post I thought

made wrote that post with the idea in mind that i scum-read koba to their death.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:32 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:31 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:29 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:19 am
Spoiler: show
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:17 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:14 am
Spoiler: show

I dont like cooperating with people who demand it
Are you demanding people not demand to cooperate with you?

Nope, the inverse of my statement is not true. People can do what they want, but if they want me to work with them its going to be a conversation I want to be a part of
You must be a lot of fun at parties
owned
are you going to post anything helpful? Allison reasons to lynch me could easily apply to you. Creature 0 posts and you have 26 posts worth nothing.
probably not just vibing tbh

i struggle to read this kind of stuff but do lean wolf here. why sub into a game if you're just going to vibe? if bo really doesn't care he probably just abandons the thread entirely. low-wim wolves are often still involved in the way bo is because they feel indebted to their teammates.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:10 pm bk posting minimally is a worse look for him than anything MR has done since my working memory of this game starts

and by 'minimally' i do not mean posting sparsely but posting few words when he does

he's trying not to give anything of himself away imo

bk posting minimally is a worse look for him than anything MR has done since my working memory of this game starts

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:11 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am @Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?
Of course.

The thing about 112 is that when she's on her game she is a unique player archetype I struggle to definitively read, despite having played with her for so many years. I could definitely read her pre-2019 or so, but since her Champs experience I've often struggled - unless she's phoning it in, of course, which happened occasionally in CDC games.

My default setting is to scumread her. Partially this is me just being very reluctant to let myself be fooled by her, partially it's the erratic behaviour she can exhibit as town/mimic as scum. I need to look for reasons to call her town, not the other way around. So far this game we've not interacted in the thread at the same time much; both of us have had long spurts of not being present. So it's been difficult to get any sort of accurate read and I've largely avoided doing so and focused instead on what's in front of me when I'm here.

I will go out on a limb and again GTH call her town. On a big picture level, her limpness in the game would point to her being scum who just doesn't have the time/inclination to put in work. As town she should find it easier to throw out some snap reads without a care in the world. But that's too easily explained away by 'irl stuff' (which I might be overly sympathetic to right now tbh) and when reading her individual posts I can't see anything in particular I want to point out and call scummy. I don't sense what I think is her usual scum agenda of making herself come across as erratic and pure. If she's on a team with others I don't see what she's doing to help them.

It's still very possible she's scum and just sort of coasting by because she's never faced any particularly hot heat, but I think she is probably town who doesn't have the time or energy to put in.

Spoiler: show
Or 3P actually. I, uh, have been harbouring that one for awhile now. If this game reminds me of any I've played with her, it's GoC, where she was 3P.

this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 9:21 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:13 am
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am 112 says based on long time knowledge of playing with MR she scum reads him. but doesn't really deliver on that sight besides giving cheeky zingers (#5126).

112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:35 pm im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?
MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum
I also don't like the selfawareness in this post with no change in thoughts here, especially after Koba's flip she was equally confident on. 112 should be more lost right now imo

I went into this looking for a MR scum read but then I thought about it more: The telling thing here may be the read MR has on 112...

Unfortunately, MR claims not to be able to read 112 very well. That said, he gives more specific descriptions of 112 and her scum range, but doesn't land anywhere definite (#817 & #809)

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm 112 harbouring a constant low-key suspicion of me probably a townie point for her tbh.
this complicates things however....Mafia is effing hard.

@112 is there ever a world where your interactions with MR right now are T/T?

@Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?
i townread koba before their death. you're quoting earlier stuff and i am never wrong on my reads.

yes there is a world where we're t/t
You townreading Koba means nothing, especially if the wagons were t/t.

Also, made wasn’t even referring to Koba in this post you’re responding to

are you sure?

what are the current claims + claimed actions?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:18 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:43 am i'm only still awake because i want to realtime with MR
I WISH FOR A KILL

i am literally town mfw

i'm only still awake because i want to realtime with MR

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:37 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:36 am when did made become obvtown?
there will be NO questions at this time

:micdrop:

when did made become obvtown?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:23 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:17 am i will now take questions
Did u visit me last night?

no

are BK and syn claiming mason?

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:14 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:13 am
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am 112 says based on long time knowledge of playing with MR she scum reads him. but doesn't really deliver on that sight besides giving cheeky zingers (#5126).

112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:35 pm im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?
MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum
I also don't like the selfawareness in this post with no change in thoughts here, especially after Koba's flip she was equally confident on. 112 should be more lost right now imo

I went into this looking for a MR scum read but then I thought about it more: The telling thing here may be the read MR has on 112...

Unfortunately, MR claims not to be able to read 112 very well. That said, he gives more specific descriptions of 112 and her scum range, but doesn't land anywhere definite (#817 & #809)

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm 112 harbouring a constant low-key suspicion of me probably a townie point for her tbh.
this complicates things however....Mafia is effing hard.

@112 is there ever a world where your interactions with MR right now are T/T?

@Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?
i townread koba before their death. you're quoting earlier stuff and i am never wrong on my reads.

yes there is a world where we're t/t
what changed your mind?

pretty sure it was gut + towny defences/AtE + i liked their tone

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:47 am
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:16 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:11 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:16 pm @112 @falcon45ca @BoKnows

Does Koba seem like Aladeen to you?
in what way?
Performative when caught.
haven't read any of their stuff really but i'm pretty sure they're maf just by the forced gibberizing of their posts
this looks pretty bad for 112 tbh

i thought koba was pretending to be drunk here btw. i think if you scroll up on that page there's a post or a post in a quote suggesting koba was claiming to be 'hammered' or, in my interpretation, drunk. the post i said was gibberized looked like fake drunk texting, but i think koba was just in a rush or something and i started townreading them after their explanation.

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am 112 says based on long time knowledge of playing with MR she scum reads him. but doesn't really deliver on that sight besides giving cheeky zingers (#5126).

112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:35 pm im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?
MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum
I also don't like the selfawareness in this post with no change in thoughts here, especially after Koba's flip she was equally confident on. 112 should be more lost right now imo

I went into this looking for a MR scum read but then I thought about it more: The telling thing here may be the read MR has on 112...

Unfortunately, MR claims not to be able to read 112 very well. That said, he gives more specific descriptions of 112 and her scum range, but doesn't land anywhere definite (#817 & #809)

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm 112 harbouring a constant low-key suspicion of me probably a townie point for her tbh.
this complicates things however....Mafia is effing hard.

@112 is there ever a world where your interactions with MR right now are T/T?

@Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?

i townread koba before their death. you're quoting earlier stuff and i am never wrong on my reads.

yes there is a world where we're t/t

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:38 am @112 @EnderWiggin @TonyStarkPrime @tutuu @Epignosis

Who has the hottest take on MR? I'm already isoing Alison for MR takes. If should look at anyone else, who should I iso?
(I'm also isoing MR ofc)

i have the most experience with him out of anyone here and that's where i'm voting

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:23 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:06 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:01 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:17 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:12 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:56 am
Reading Bo's iso, this is the link for it

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... 819&t=2203

Radishes came with a TR based on tone iirc.
Idk what to say, Bo can post such things as mafia as well

The Iso is NAI but if Bo is villager why he has so little pressure on him?
For real. It's been literally just me.
What's your Poe now?
Made
Tutuu
Nook
Falcon
Sig
MR
TSP
BoSyn

I'm that order from least yeetable to most.

Other pieces would come together after and I'm not scum reading anyone else at the moment.
I personally see Nook as town. He hasnt moved his read on me all game. He could have the wool over my eyes but I think his posting has been town as well
if i'm trying to be critical of rondo i can find stuff in this post i don't like
whats wrong with the word personally?

it shows a lack of confidence in oneself imo

Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:05 am I really don't want to catch up, did Epi say he was gonna shoot someone today?

irl?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:04 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:01 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:17 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:12 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:56 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:18 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:16 pm

Hi Bo! Have you read the thread? Parts of it?
just when I come on. I read what's fresh. I'm not a good retroactive player, so I'm not even going to try to read back this game.
Reading Bo's iso, this is the link for it

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... 819&t=2203

Radishes came with a TR based on tone iirc.
Idk what to say, Bo can post such things as mafia as well

The Iso is NAI but if Bo is villager why he has so little pressure on him?
For real. It's been literally just me.
What's your Poe now?
Made
Tutuu
Nook
Falcon
Sig
MR
TSP
BoSyn

I'm that order from least yeetable to most.

Other pieces would come together after and I'm not scum reading anyone else at the moment.
I personally see Nook as town. He hasnt moved his read on me all game. He could have the wool over my eyes but I think his posting has been town as well

if i'm trying to be critical of rondo i can find stuff in this post i don't like

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:18 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:17 am i will now take questions
Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why

closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice

[VOTE: master radishes] aubergine

i am on board here

i will now take questions

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:24 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:24 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:24 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:23 pm there's an equal possibility something i know is the reason why there wasn't a nightkill as whatever it is ender thinks may have been the cause
You kinda took a while to poke this out after my claim
okay
Can I ask the reason for your delay?

i like to watch and let things play out sometimes

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:24 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:23 pm there's an equal possibility something i know is the reason why there wasn't a nightkill as whatever it is ender thinks may have been the cause
You kinda took a while to poke this out after my claim

okay

there's an equal possibility something i know is the reason why there wasn't a nightkill as whatever it is ender thinks may have been the cause

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:06 pm
112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 10:04 pm nanook being ridiculed as the most reasonable person in the room
Happens to me all the time.

I'm a teacher.

i posted on cdc for 10 years

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