The Syndicate

[VOTE: achro] aubergine

Looked at wilgy stuff, he's v likely town. If not I have to recalibrate my read, but its been reliable so far (5/6 or 6/7 so far, across both alignments, and I made an adjustment after the incorrect one), so sticking with it

I see ender votes. Meh.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:52 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:59 pm But I consider finding ender after one day of conflict to be pretty good unless he is scum then I am a genius lol x)

But yeah the key to my play is a singular read doesn't matter. It's about examining thread state and how people operate within it. I advocated for Tommy because seeing how people react let's me understand them.

So nanook's naked vote and non discussion of porscha ping me. It is possible for town to do this but other slots reacted positively. Nook felt like he was avoiding my attempts to solve. Like a graceful dancer. Maybe just town aloofness but presently I feel like I hear the town heartbeat from everyone else.
Yeah, avoiding them so much i spent like 40 posts engaging with you on your terms lol
I did say at the time that it felt odd. If you are town and I am mis suspecting you then well welcome to the club lol.

Also it is a paradox of its good that you engaged with me but also I didn't expect you to as town there (Note basic profile, I don't know enough so that expectation is admittedly flawed)

You can go back right after I was thinking you over even in real time based on how you chose to clear

Look if it ain't me and ain't you someone's playing good which is to be expected I suppose.

I mean, I often wouldn't, but I felt like you were putting in enough effort to engage that it would be somewhat rude not if I had the time, which I did then

I suspect that regardless of your alignment my responses (or lack thereof) wouldn't have changed your SR of me either way lol

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:59 pm But I consider finding ender after one day of conflict to be pretty good unless he is scum then I am a genius lol x)

But yeah the key to my play is a singular read doesn't matter. It's about examining thread state and how people operate within it. I advocated for Tommy because seeing how people react let's me understand them.

So nanook's naked vote and non discussion of porscha ping me. It is possible for town to do this but other slots reacted positively. Nook felt like he was avoiding my attempts to solve. Like a graceful dancer. Maybe just town aloofness but presently I feel like I hear the town heartbeat from everyone else.

Yeah, avoiding them so much i spent like 40 posts engaging with you on your terms lol

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:21 pm Also a little insight is until I get to talk to people about my thought process day 1 and am told 'actually achro I think you lost the plot here' I die thinking that how I handled Tommy had actually no downside risk for town at all so being told it was bad a lot felt gaslighting. That's not an accusation of it I know no one meant it like that but it gnawed at me super hard.

Also it is fitting my defense was what it was. That character died too.

I mean I never called it bad, it was fine. I don't disagree with the premise of ignoring them for most of the day to make it more productive, its close to the same thing I've done with wilgy.

The SR/poeing is largely for d2 and macro stuff

[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Just until I can read wilgy stuff today

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:51 pm Isn't your Clearly defined poe 3 people and then also maybe kind of sorts wilgy if push comes to shove

That's over 1/3 of the game x(

And...? We have 5 kills lol, that's actually smaller than it needs to be

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:36 pm I feel as if nanook's solving today is fairly outing tbh. Not a lot of bend and really trying to nanook it up.

Because keep in mind if you say you don't know who past me and I know it's not me that's perspective that I am at as well. Who else could it be? Oh, nanook. That's my approach;o

I mean I have a clearly defined poe

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:21 pm
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:17 pm So part of the tinfoil around nook for me which I get why it is hard to accept (sincerely) is I feel like we were all saying day 2 that Dizzy and achro being aligned with porscha don't make sense. I was paranoid of dizzy due to vote but ender talked me off that ledge.

Nook seems to be on that ledge with me and won't get off. Isn't he still saying dizzy next or did Mac convince?
Did Nook say Dizzy next? Lol @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Don't think I've said anyone next, but you are in my poe

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:47 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:39 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 2:39 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Whenever you see this can you go over your methods for narrowing it down to exactly me, dizzy, and Flanders? Thanks.
I may as well give this an actual answer now that I'm begrudgingly somewhat awake

Mac ive had as hard town for some time, nothing changed there, he hasn't lost energy or gone into emo/ate mac even as two mafia die so he's probably just town, and his attempts to engage with you today are a pretty good look cause I think scumMacs wincon probably involves drowning you out and burying you then going "whoops, guess I should follow his reads" tomorrow. So town

Wilgy, secret sauce TR, he hit the markers d1 but in too small of a sample to be confident about it, he hit them again at eod2, if he doesn't show up until eod again thats pretty meh and removes a lot of the certainty in the read (eod pace muddied it a bit), but for now I have him town and want to focus the day elsewhere. If he doesn't show up, fine do whatever, until then just treat him as town.

Ender is probably my least confident clear, but its hard to see him killing axe* while Mac and achro and I are around, I dont think his eod was likely to be mafia and the blithe confidence that I'd vote to save him even as I wasn't hard TRing him is a good bit >rand town imo. So town read, break glass in case of emergency level.

*need to check what axes reads actually were, i think he had one or two

Sabi i haven't seen their scum game but anecdotally I've heard its quite strong, that said I think a lot of their movements this game have fit in very well with their town game, and...idk it just feels like an easy townread, maybe I should have them in the ender level, but I'm just locking the read and ignoring it atp honestly, if they pocketed me then ggs.

Lucy trust me they're probably town, and they'd certainly be dead if I were mafia.

Vivax has the tommie/matt thing, and they pushed on porscha a lot d1 (and ended up voting there d2 as well), so that's just probably town

Rondo's had a lot of good pushes, the fact they actually ended up on porscha and it mattered is probably a good look, lowkey kind of a lazy tr in some ways, but I tend to think that the best way to read rondo is if they're pushing good stuff for town or not, and they mostly have been so far, so

I'm losing steam will finish later lol
why would you kill me as scum?

I thought you were most likely doc candidate

Mawr wilgy, needs mawr wilgy

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:07 pm However, fact remains that Achro spent a good deal of going after Porscha while defending Tommy. That is weird in itself if Achro is mafia. And I would think that if the plan was to bus one and defend the other that you would want to do it the other way around considering Tommy barely posted?

Like, I've had Achro/Porscha unaligned for most of the game
And where did they end up d2
I mean, true

Ironic that last EoD I just wanted to chop Achro, and now everyone else wants to chop Achro but I don't. But maybe you're right

I'm not even particularly sold on them, but they're in my poe and the longer they're alive the harder they'll be to get over, so it's something of a tactical approach

Its also possible wilgy just dips and we end up killing him instead

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:07 pm However, fact remains that Achro spent a good deal of going after Porscha while defending Tommy. That is weird in itself if Achro is mafia. And I would think that if the plan was to bus one and defend the other that you would want to do it the other way around considering Tommy barely posted?

Like, I've had Achro/Porscha unaligned for most of the game

And where did they end up d2

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 11:50 am I'm not informed enough to hammer in this game, so I'll just be forward in saying I aint pullin that trigger.

Atm you couldn't if you wanted to lol

Just get some thoughts out, doesn't have to be a full comprehensive catchup, but if you can get some thoughts out I can find you

Hes still three away, its fine

I actually kinda don't want a hammer yet, if achro is town would like to see wilgy show up

I don't not want it enough to unvote, but

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:51 am OK I have a hour to pack so bye

Imagine needing more than 20 minutes

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:30 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:30 am I had it as 60% lucy 40% sabi so this is a pleasant surprise
yeah it is lucy, sabi is just giving lucy cover lol

Shhhhh

I had it as 60% lucy 40% sabi so this is a pleasant surprise

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:23 am Mac believed he knew.

I know Nanook definitely had a different person in mind otherwise he wouldn't be pushing Achro

Correct lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:17 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:15 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:14 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:12 am I like the subplot today where I am kind of losing it and the entire time Rondo is just going for Mac and it's like. Just thinking about it cheers me up because it's just so silly.
how?
Because Mac is spewed about three different ways with any one of them should be considered majorly clearing.
fuck it sorry achro

rondo achro is the doctor this whole thing was just us trying to spew him not doctor lol

We're pushing the claim on ender smh

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:10 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:09 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:08 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:07 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:04 am speaking of which @RondoDimBuckle there is actually someone in this game with a green check on me lol.
prove it
Role fishing yikes.
no its just empty words
BRUH Nook mentioned it first

I'm not fishing i already know who they are

It definitely could be wilgy but I dont really want to sleep walk into that, if they're town and play before eod ill find them, if they don't then yeah they probably go over, but id rather not sleepwalk into it

Fwiw i didn't say your d1 was bad lol, you're in my poe largely on the basis of your d2

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:57 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:56 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:55 am So you see, in that champs game you referenced where let me be clear I FUCKING SUCKED I cleared the only two people who voted the wolf early.

They were wolves too.

Bussing is sometimes a thing.

wowee
But you should be townread for pushing a mafia d1, right
Oh no, just please don't say I had a bad day 1

Kill me, daddy. Run me through.

Then, when I flip town, at least make sure my reads are considered before town loses.

If you flip town I will consider your reads, absolutely

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:57 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:56 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:55 am @Achromatic nook was maf in his champs game (#3) if you need to iso his maf game
much appreciated. Hm, # 3... was that the really good one for scum or the sweep for town or am I just misremembering.
The only one maf lost

Swag

Anyways I should be cleared cause I'm pretty sure I know who the doc is and they're still alive lol

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:55 am So you see, in that champs game you referenced where let me be clear I FUCKING SUCKED I cleared the only two people who voted the wolf early.

They were wolves too.

Bussing is sometimes a thing.

wowee

But you should be townread for pushing a mafia d1, right

I've been a naughty school boy and didn't learn my lesson

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:52 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:49 am I gave you a real response, if you want to discard it that's fine, but now all I have for you are memes if you're gonna continue pursuing this angle. Self defenses don't usually mean much to me, I gave yours a chance, it did not outweigh the rest of my read. I acknowledge you made it, it doesn't change my read
To teach a mafia lesson to you all, go read what I just suggested about my day 1, go read nanook's clears, and compare the strength of it.

Actually, kill me first so you know I am town, and then remember I said "huh, it seems like nanook's really trying to squint hard here to not re-eval me, and then remember Nanook's own standards about being results based.

Nanook is a mafia arch-demon. He's the greatest (besides me ofc ofc) so if he can't find me town when I try to convince him, always w I guess.

shrug

Teach me daddy

My Serious Mafia battery is low, im shifting into full meme mode

I mean your position is that I lol bussed both partners so like

You can't pretend it's a ridiculous stance lol

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:48 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:46 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:40 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:35 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:32 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:31 am also ps I really don't mind if nanook isn't the wagon today as you all have a lot more experience I just want everyone to be open minded in future days, you can still kill me it's pretty chill
Sure doesn't feel chill.
Yes I know that's because you aren't parsing my problems with the game correctly and confbiasing into what you want them to be.

The rant is more about the perception of play and some of that involved a diss track for misreading me based off the standards set out for me, but really overall being suspected is part of the game.

(Nanook's response to me is not chill because it glosses over all nuance of my iso which there is A LOT of and just goes lol w, which if w is reasonable and if v is pretty much just like 'okay cool glad to know nanook's range now I guess)
Did you expect a point by point breakdown? I do not find those productive
Typing words where it is actually clear you read what I typed would suffice.
I read about half of it. Skimmed the rest. I held it in my mind's hand. I cradled it. I weighed it. It did not spark town, so I tossed it aside.
Right, so your position is I spent about 200 posts world building around Porscha, trying to goad Tommy to vote Porscha with me, and ultimately before day one ended making it clear that if I couldn't get Porscha I'd be fine with tommy, and you thought yourself 'yeah that seems aligned'

Just so we're clear with each other.

In conjunction with your d2? Yeah I see no reason it couldn't be aligned.

I gave you a real response, if you want to discard it that's fine, but now all I have for you are memes if you're gonna continue pursuing this angle. Self defenses don't usually mean much to me, I gave yours a chance, it did not outweigh the rest of my read. I acknowledge you made it, it doesn't change my read

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:40 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:35 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:32 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:31 am also ps I really don't mind if nanook isn't the wagon today as you all have a lot more experience I just want everyone to be open minded in future days, you can still kill me it's pretty chill
Sure doesn't feel chill.
Yes I know that's because you aren't parsing my problems with the game correctly and confbiasing into what you want them to be.

The rant is more about the perception of play and some of that involved a diss track for misreading me based off the standards set out for me, but really overall being suspected is part of the game.

(Nanook's response to me is not chill because it glosses over all nuance of my iso which there is A LOT of and just goes lol w, which if w is reasonable and if v is pretty much just like 'okay cool glad to know nanook's range now I guess)
Did you expect a point by point breakdown? I do not find those productive
Typing words where it is actually clear you read what I typed would suffice.

I read about half of it. Skimmed the rest. I held it in my mind's hand. I cradled it. I weighed it. It did not spark town, so I tossed it aside.

Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:35 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:32 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:31 am also ps I really don't mind if nanook isn't the wagon today as you all have a lot more experience I just want everyone to be open minded in future days, you can still kill me it's pretty chill
Sure doesn't feel chill.
Yes I know that's because you aren't parsing my problems with the game correctly and confbiasing into what you want them to be.

The rant is more about the perception of play and some of that involved a diss track for misreading me based off the standards set out for me, but really overall being suspected is part of the game.

(Nanook's response to me is not chill because it glosses over all nuance of my iso which there is A LOT of and just goes lol w, which if w is reasonable and if v is pretty much just like 'okay cool glad to know nanook's range now I guess)

Did you expect a point by point breakdown? I do not find those productive

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:30 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:28 am Yeah you're not allowed to make reads on a mafia god smh
You know like Achro is definitely a mafia deity, but you're a mafia arch-demon that's pretty cool too.

Oh no I'm no arch demon, simply a humble mafia bridge troll

Yeah you're not allowed to make reads on a mafia god smh

Basically I think that unfocused/opaque ender is >rand town

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:51 am I am saying that my initial ping of Ender was that I felt he was too clean.

No my issue isn't that I don't understand his reads. My issue is that he pushed in all manner of directions on a great deal of now confirmed town by virtue of at best only one of the people that he was pushing can even possible be mafia.

On a day Porscha was damned to the gallows he was absolutely spinning all over the place. It wasn't unclear, it was just prolific.

Hm. I would counter that if ender is partnered with porscha he'd be more likely to have a focused target? Either a town target or bussing

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:49 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:58 am Ender

Ender has covid! I think that's generally a human diseases. Not sure wolves can catch it. Pretty townie given that.

Sorta takes piss out of Mac for locking Vivax town. Go fuck yourself.

Hates Achro. Poor Achro got collectively deuced on here hey lol.

Hits on Dizzy. Covid made Ender horny.

Sabi obvtown and has boner cuz Dizzy has a larger than average big toe. Meh. Meh meh meh.

I pocketed Ender for being sus of Achro. Really hates Achro I guess. Suss tbh if Achro is town.

Townreading Lucy. Fine. Good. Points.

Really can't vibe Achro. I can relate. Mind melds from the past.

Doesn't vibe with Nook lock towning Wilgous.

Really can't vibe Achro. Outright calls Axe a wolf. Shit content Ender.

Refuses to vote me when I ask. TMI? Is a wolf?

Makes wolf team of 5. Has Tommy in it. Meh. Null.

Votes Axe, the town and fucks off.

I shielded Achro and Ender decided to drop sussing them... neat. I dunno.

Defends Nanook from Achro. Fair.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:11 am Rondo is still in wolfish meta enough I'd be okay with him going over. But I'd prefer Porscha or another of my POE first tbh
Interesting post. Porscha wasn't in his POE before this. In fact, first mention of Porscha at all? Okay...

Kinda... the last post Ender makes before Tommy got bopped. Kinda weird tbh.

Starts day 2 ... not pushing Porscha, voting town Axe again... hmmmm.

Doesn't actually care. Susses Flanders.. then Achro again.

Gotta say, this ISO is sus lol.

Then goes to push Dizzy. Jokingly. Not in love Ender. Your day 2 is balls. No wonder you nearly got pelted.

Loves jousting with Achro... that's pretty townie repeatedly. can't imagine a wolf repeatedly engaging Achro for fun.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:41 pm we don't need porscha entering the thread with a mass wagon on her btw.
True.
Like genuinely hate this lol.

Votes Nanook for wagonomics (I was voting Nook at the time. Porscha mainwagon.

Has Porscha bottom of a very large POE. Has not spoken to, or really explained their stance on Porscha during the entire game. Just default has her in POE and moves towards or away based on nothing visible.

For an ISO I was expecting to confirmation bias as town, I actually hate it.

Tons of snark towards heaps of players. Random ass vote on Seanzie.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:17 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Achro and defending wolves seems to be a thing :3
Fuck i hate this post.

I'm too confirmation biased. Skipping to the EOD to see how he got Porscha over.

Answer he didn't. His EOD sucked and he didn't actually vote for her.

Ender is actually objectively wolfier than Wilgy. Bottom of POE.
I actually think not voting porscha at eod was pretty not mafia of him lol, hard to see a world where scumEnder both thinks porscha can carry and risks his own death, given porscha going over him was not by any means a given

I think he tends to be much more careful about his reads as mafia too? Caveat that he did (does?) have covid, but yeah, generally think that scumEnder takes pains to make his reads easily followable
My suspicion on him day 2 was literally that he was being to clean and townie sounding...

Interesting post. Porscha wasn't in his POE before this. In fact, first mention of Porscha at all? Okay...

Kinda... the last post Ender makes before Tommy got bopped. Kinda weird tbh.

Starts day 2 ... not pushing Porscha, voting town Axe again... hmmmm.

Doesn't actually care. Susses Flanders.. then Achro again.

Gotta say, this ISO is sus lol.

Then goes to push Dizzy. Jokingly. Not in love Ender. Your day 2 is balls. No wonder you nearly got pelted.

Loves jousting with Achro... that's pretty townie repeatedly. can't imagine a wolf repeatedly engaging Achro for fun.

Like genuinely hate this lol.

Votes Nanook for wagonomics (I was voting Nook at the time. Porscha mainwagon.

Has Porscha bottom of a very large POE. Has not spoken to, or really explained their stance on Porscha during the entire game. Just default has her in POE and moves towards or away based on nothing visible.

For an ISO I was expecting to confirmation bias as town, I actually hate it.

Tons of snark towards heaps of players. Random ass vote on Seanzie.
These chunks gave me the opposite impression, that part of your issue is that you can't follow his reads/where his reads come from?

Ebwop

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:47 am [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

I'm done trolling Mac.

Prefer hes given time to see what he does

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:46 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:43 am I actually think not voting porscha at eod was pretty not mafia of him lol, hard to see a world where scumEnder both thinks porscha can carry and risks his own death, given porscha going over him was not by any means a given

I think he tends to be much more careful about his reads as mafia too? Caveat that he did (does?) have covid, but yeah, generally think that scumEnder takes pains to make his reads easily followable
Does still but I'm in the recovery end so it's not really impairing me much.

I think D1 was the only day it really hurt my ability to play.

Thats good, covid is a bitch. Glad to hear you're recovering well!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:45 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:43 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:58 am Ender

Ender has covid! I think that's generally a human diseases. Not sure wolves can catch it. Pretty townie given that.

Sorta takes piss out of Mac for locking Vivax town. Go fuck yourself.

Hates Achro. Poor Achro got collectively deuced on here hey lol.

Hits on Dizzy. Covid made Ender horny.

Sabi obvtown and has boner cuz Dizzy has a larger than average big toe. Meh. Meh meh meh.

I pocketed Ender for being sus of Achro. Really hates Achro I guess. Suss tbh if Achro is town.

Townreading Lucy. Fine. Good. Points.

Really can't vibe Achro. I can relate. Mind melds from the past.

Doesn't vibe with Nook lock towning Wilgous.

Really can't vibe Achro. Outright calls Axe a wolf. Shit content Ender.

Refuses to vote me when I ask. TMI? Is a wolf?

Makes wolf team of 5. Has Tommy in it. Meh. Null.

Votes Axe, the town and fucks off.

I shielded Achro and Ender decided to drop sussing them... neat. I dunno.

Defends Nanook from Achro. Fair.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:11 am Rondo is still in wolfish meta enough I'd be okay with him going over. But I'd prefer Porscha or another of my POE first tbh
Interesting post. Porscha wasn't in his POE before this. In fact, first mention of Porscha at all? Okay...

Kinda... the last post Ender makes before Tommy got bopped. Kinda weird tbh.

Starts day 2 ... not pushing Porscha, voting town Axe again... hmmmm.

Doesn't actually care. Susses Flanders.. then Achro again.

Gotta say, this ISO is sus lol.

Then goes to push Dizzy. Jokingly. Not in love Ender. Your day 2 is balls. No wonder you nearly got pelted.

Loves jousting with Achro... that's pretty townie repeatedly. can't imagine a wolf repeatedly engaging Achro for fun.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:41 pm we don't need porscha entering the thread with a mass wagon on her btw.
True.
Like genuinely hate this lol.

Votes Nanook for wagonomics (I was voting Nook at the time. Porscha mainwagon.

Has Porscha bottom of a very large POE. Has not spoken to, or really explained their stance on Porscha during the entire game. Just default has her in POE and moves towards or away based on nothing visible.

For an ISO I was expecting to confirmation bias as town, I actually hate it.

Tons of snark towards heaps of players. Random ass vote on Seanzie.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:17 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Achro and defending wolves seems to be a thing :3
Fuck i hate this post.

I'm too confirmation biased. Skipping to the EOD to see how he got Porscha over.

Answer he didn't. His EOD sucked and he didn't actually vote for her.

Ender is actually objectively wolfier than Wilgy. Bottom of POE.
I actually think not voting porscha at eod was pretty not mafia of him lol, hard to see a world where scumEnder both thinks porscha can carry and risks his own death, given porscha going over him was not by any means a given

I think he tends to be much more careful about his reads as mafia too? Caveat that he did (does?) have covid, but yeah, generally think that scumEnder takes pains to make his reads easily followable
My suspicion on him day 2 was literally that he was being to clean and townie sounding...

Interesting post. Porscha wasn't in his POE before this. In fact, first mention of Porscha at all? Okay...

Kinda... the last post Ender makes before Tommy got bopped. Kinda weird tbh.

Starts day 2 ... not pushing Porscha, voting town Axe again... hmmmm.

Doesn't actually care. Susses Flanders.. then Achro again.

Gotta say, this ISO is sus lol.

Then goes to push Dizzy. Jokingly. Not in love Ender. Your day 2 is balls. No wonder you nearly got pelted.

Loves jousting with Achro... that's pretty townie repeatedly. can't imagine a wolf repeatedly engaging Achro for fun.

Like genuinely hate this lol.

Votes Nanook for wagonomics (I was voting Nook at the time. Porscha mainwagon.

Has Porscha bottom of a very large POE. Has not spoken to, or really explained their stance on Porscha during the entire game. Just default has her in POE and moves towards or away based on nothing visible.

For an ISO I was expecting to confirmation bias as town, I actually hate it.

Tons of snark towards heaps of players. Random ass vote on Seanzie.
These chunks gave me the opposite impression, that part of your issue is that you can't follow his reads/where his reads come from?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:38 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:35 am like can we enter a space where nanook doesnt just beat us if we listen to you mac?

Like his response to my defense is like, open wolfing or just ... beyond imagining to me from a town player which is FINE, but can we at least set it up so if all of your other reads are wrong at fnal 3 we go 'man maybe achro had a point' ????
The more simple way to frame this is to say, am I capable of reevaluating Nanook... The answer being yes.

It won't get to that point imo. He never kills Axe. Ender even agreed and you think Ender is town so why are you putting all the onus of Nanook's alignment onto me. I don't think a single other player suspects him. If you want to get him over go and rally the numbers, you don't need my vote.

Sean does

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:58 am Ender

Ender has covid! I think that's generally a human diseases. Not sure wolves can catch it. Pretty townie given that.

Sorta takes piss out of Mac for locking Vivax town. Go fuck yourself.

Hates Achro. Poor Achro got collectively deuced on here hey lol.

Hits on Dizzy. Covid made Ender horny.

Sabi obvtown and has boner cuz Dizzy has a larger than average big toe. Meh. Meh meh meh.

I pocketed Ender for being sus of Achro. Really hates Achro I guess. Suss tbh if Achro is town.

Townreading Lucy. Fine. Good. Points.

Really can't vibe Achro. I can relate. Mind melds from the past.

Doesn't vibe with Nook lock towning Wilgous.

Really can't vibe Achro. Outright calls Axe a wolf. Shit content Ender.

Refuses to vote me when I ask. TMI? Is a wolf?

Makes wolf team of 5. Has Tommy in it. Meh. Null.

Votes Axe, the town and fucks off.

I shielded Achro and Ender decided to drop sussing them... neat. I dunno.

Defends Nanook from Achro. Fair.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:11 am Rondo is still in wolfish meta enough I'd be okay with him going over. But I'd prefer Porscha or another of my POE first tbh
Interesting post. Porscha wasn't in his POE before this. In fact, first mention of Porscha at all? Okay...

Kinda... the last post Ender makes before Tommy got bopped. Kinda weird tbh.

Starts day 2 ... not pushing Porscha, voting town Axe again... hmmmm.

Doesn't actually care. Susses Flanders.. then Achro again.

Gotta say, this ISO is sus lol.

Then goes to push Dizzy. Jokingly. Not in love Ender. Your day 2 is balls. No wonder you nearly got pelted.

Loves jousting with Achro... that's pretty townie repeatedly. can't imagine a wolf repeatedly engaging Achro for fun.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:41 pm we don't need porscha entering the thread with a mass wagon on her btw.
True.
Like genuinely hate this lol.

Votes Nanook for wagonomics (I was voting Nook at the time. Porscha mainwagon.

Has Porscha bottom of a very large POE. Has not spoken to, or really explained their stance on Porscha during the entire game. Just default has her in POE and moves towards or away based on nothing visible.

For an ISO I was expecting to confirmation bias as town, I actually hate it.

Tons of snark towards heaps of players. Random ass vote on Seanzie.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:17 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 pm Not really sure why Achromatic is hard defending me here, but since I do have a few votes on me, I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Achro and defending wolves seems to be a thing :3
Fuck i hate this post.

I'm too confirmation biased. Skipping to the EOD to see how he got Porscha over.

Answer he didn't. His EOD sucked and he didn't actually vote for her.

Ender is actually objectively wolfier than Wilgy. Bottom of POE.

I actually think not voting porscha at eod was pretty not mafia of him lol, hard to see a world where scumEnder both thinks porscha can carry and risks his own death, given porscha going over him was not by any means a given

I think he tends to be much more careful about his reads as mafia too? Caveat that he did (does?) have covid, but yeah, generally think that scumEnder takes pains to make his reads easily followable

I'm fine being poe fwiw I don't care at this point if I'm towncored or not

I think its somewhat silly to SR me, but like...we have 5 kills, idc if im towncored rn or not

What is it you're seeing with ender that's making you SR him?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:31 am I'm gonna ignore you while you're aggro then, just not here for it lol

If you chill down we can talk about why you think im wrong on wilgy if you want, otherwise godspeed
I wanna talk to you about why you aren't seeing what I am seeing with Ender actually.

Sure, let's chat

I'm gonna ignore you while you're aggro then, just not here for it lol

If you chill down we can talk about why you think im wrong on wilgy if you want, otherwise godspeed

Chill, dude. This doesn't need to be an aggro day, we have a massive lead, good vibes only

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