The Syndicate

Johann is a big boy that can make his own shot and take responsibility for it himself

I’m not arguing I played particularly well past N2, I’m just saying that I should never have been in the POE D3. Ever. No matter whether you understand my reads or agree with them or not

And no, I’m not always going to explain my reads. I didn’t explain most of them in any depth before my shot and I was widely TR, idk why that changed after my shot except that you didn’t agree with my play I guess

I don’t mind being blamed for having the wrong solve, that’s fine and fair, I refuse to take the blame or responsibility for being wrongly put in the POE on D3 immediately after shooting scum

It’s also frustrating on a personal level because I did my job then got suspected for...doing my job.

Like just from a tactical POV, even if you think there’s a 90% chance I’m mafia, the correct play is always treat me like I’m lock town D3 and see if I get poisoned N3. If D4 starts and I haven’t been poisoned, then you can start going “wait a sec, why isn’t nanook poisoned yet?” and that’s fair! But doing that on D3 just means I don’t get poisoned N3 and it becomes a situation that could’ve easily been avoided

I don’t blame FG for shooting me tbh, I told her i wouldn’t hold it against her and I meant it.

I do blame you and jack and johann for incredibly bad and, at least for you and jack, very premature pushes on me. You always have to give it a night to see if I get poisoned first or not

I give the mafia team a lot of credit btw, please don’t take my saltiness as taking any credit away from them at all. They played well and did exactly what they needed to do to win.

I’m being acerbic, not exploding

Like obviously my play deteriorated after I let myself get dragged into frustration with being scumread, that’s fair and on me, I shouldn’t have let myself get distracted from finding the correct solve. I couldn’t imagine in the moment how every push on me came from a townie, but I’ve seen that kind of thing before so I should’ve known better.

I maintain that any push on me on D3 was stupid and misguided, you never tinfoil me until you have a chance to see if I get poisoned or not

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:18 pm Nanook was considered because Nanook himself insisted that the actual final two wolves had to be taken out of the POE "because". He put himself in everyone elses POE lol.

Incorrect, I said wilgy and boo were out of the POE temporarily so that we couldn’t sleep walk into a boo shot and people had to actually make pushes.


But sure, I’m sure I’m entirely to blame for getting incorrectly SR immediately after I shot scum. That makes sense.

I’d play again tbh.

This time tho when I fulfill my pregame guarantee of shooting scum I get locked town for it

I’m sure I’ll be told it was my fault that I was SR tho

Duskfall wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:15 pm Hate to say it boys but town really had to put in a shift to lose this one

Why in the world was Nanook ever considered lmao?

Cause nanook busses.

But also hard shields his partner.

Idk

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:03 pm FTL start when

Tomorrow.

Awesome, I need something to wash this taste out

FTL start when

Still an atheist sorry

Like if boo flips mafia awesome, I still don’t understand how we got here tho

I don’t even understand how me and jack are up here saying to do the same thing with our positions swapped while everyone else goes “naw definitely shoot boo”

Wtf even is this game at this point

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 2:36 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 2:32 pm That’s such a scummy thing to say jfc

Which part? The part where I said I'd shoot whichever of you or Jack remains if the other flips scum? :P

Yeah that would be the part

That’s such a scummy thing to say jfc

It’s so bad I almost want to abandon my current world view tbh

That’s such a horrendously bad take

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 12:10 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 12:03 pm That depends on funny shooting scumBoo obviously

If she doesn’t, then the most obvious boo partner in that world is funny lol

If it's Boo/Funny, she just busses Boo here, let's me and you death tunnel each other and goes on knowing that none of Hyena, GMan or Wilgy ever shoot her over each other.

I'm not worried about that.

Heh, probably true yeah

Yeah kinda agree with jack there, this is your decision to make especially after pushing hard for the gun today

We’re just exploring hypotheticals funny take it down a notch

That depends on funny shooting scumBoo obviously

If she doesn’t, then the most obvious boo partner in that world is funny lol

Like if you’re town and boo is Mafia....maybe gman? I’d have to check my N2 spreadsheet again but I’m not sure that makes sense...so I’d probably have to open back up to hyena and consider him in that world?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri May 22, 2020 11:46 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

What's your solve. Two wolves. Go.

You and gman or boo. Honestly not sure which. Probably gman, I don’t think it’s impossible for you/boo to be distancing but idk

So if you’re town and 100% sure boo flips mafia, go for the gold I guess? Like it’s just risk analysis yeah, boo is a riskier shot cause if you’re both town the game is just fucked more than likely

But if you’re town and he’s mafia that might be the ideal world? Not sure.

If you shoot boo and they flip town it’s uh

Pretty hard not to kill you lol

There’s absolutely zero consideration of the game in his posts, every engagement with me is turned into a grandstanding “hey look everyone Nanook is scum” (that essay he references is a good example, taking my “what if we’re both wrong, how do we win?” olive branch and grandstanding about how I’m definitely scum instead then pretending that could ever be taken as a good faith answer), he’s not interested in solving the game he’s interested only in looking good and pushing lines he thinks he can push.

Or me, but preferably jack

Nvm just shoot jack

Anyways yeah I’d say shoot who you think is most likely to flip mafia, if they flip mafia great you’re locked as far as I’m concerned, if they flip town then I don’t fucking know we’ll figure it out from there I guess.

Something doesn’t feel right but I can’t tell if it’s because I’m wrong somewhere or because it’s 4am or because I’m doubting myself when I should stand firm, but I can’t help a nagging suspicion I’m missing something obvious here.

You know what, fuck it, shoot whomever you want. If they’re mafia I’m never considering you, if they’re town you’re back in the POE. Fair?

Ok

I guess I could also argue I've been a stronger asset to the town, cause, you know, I have, but that's whatever

If you wanna kill me first fine but I'm only OK with it if it leads to Jack being shot after I flip town.

(I reserve the right to pretend I didn't say this in postgame if it's somehow incorrect)

I think I made it somewhere, idk. The short version is--leaping onto mac's "MAYBE IT'S NANOOK" thing and then pretty opportunistically pushing it when it gained traction/didn't immediately fail. POE cause there's more reason to think you/Hyena/wilgy are not with drago. Sheeping sloonei a bit cause I trust sloonei. And his push for me the last day+ has been literally pushing exactly the scum agenda, which unfortunately doesn't always make someone scum but I have to believe that at least one of the people pushing me has to be mafia cause it's pretty fucking sad if town has fucked up this badly on their own, tbh.

That's the brief version, I'm...probably not going to go into much more detail than this unless you maybe have questions, idk.

I mean, I think I’ve been contributing so I don’t think that’s a good way to read it lol. It’s very possible I gave the game winning solve so

I’m also pretty much only ok with being shot if it means jack gets shot tomorrow. At the very least he cannot be allowed to have the gun.

And you can shoot me to resolve it, that’s fine, I won’t fight it at this point, but if we’re both town and alive tomorrow it’s so so hard to win this game

I don’t even care if your shoot me, but until/unless jack shows any ability to consider a world where I’m not mafia we cannot both alive tomorrow. We just can’t, even if we’re both town!

Sorry I’m an atheist

I fucking hope he is cause I honestly don’t see how we win this game if he’s town, he won’t even pretend to engage with me and explore the possibility of being t/t so

It’s just so bad for the game to have both me and jack alive tomorrow lol

If he flips town most likely everyone turns on me and we lose lolol

Yeah you can’t have me and jack both alive tomorrow tbh

That’s like the one thing we agree on lmao

Like ok, basically where I’m at is either lock me town or kill me now. I’m petty and thin skinned and not really interested in another day of fighting, so if I’m not gonna be considered locked town I’d prefer to just be shot now and you can sheep my reads after my flip

Is that selfish? Yes.

Who are you talking about

I mean I guess I don’t, but it’s probably better to shoot me than anyone not named jack

I’m playing mm but sort of around