The Syndicate

Scum and/or dead chat?

Multiple mafia that can’t be killed the first time fucking sucks

GGs

Also I’m against this silent KILO cause there’s something fucky happening somewhere and I have nobody to figure it out with

So that’s fun

I’m just voting nutella and if we lose we fucking deserve it

I’m not actually against silent KILOs but they have to include votes

@NIK sure would be cool if the 99% confirmed town would vote

How are people not even voting

This is the most lackluster end to a game I’ve ever seen jfc

This is exciting

So basically where I’m at is that it’s almost always correct to kill a 3p today

Either one of the 3p can win wkth mafia

Or

The two 3p are who have to die

In situation A Nutella is basically always that mafia

In situation B obviously we know who the 3p are

So I think it’s always correct to kill a 3p, just have to try and guess which 3p makes more sense to have to kill in case we’re in situation A and it matters which we go after

That’s a good point about NIK he actually can’t be faking cause tutu is the only person that could’ve been gunsmith and we know her role

K so NIK is confirmed

Which means

Either you’re mafia nutes

Or we have to kill the 3Ps

Or you’re mafia and we have to kill one of the 3Ps too

I hate this game so bad rn

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:18 pm I feel like the correct answer is to kill LC who has allegedly achieved his wincon but is still in the game for some reason

Idk about that why would that explain nightkills tho

It might buy another day before I have to make a decision between you and nik

We’re not fucking sleeping at potential KILO

Or even clearly delineated answers to choose from

I hate not having the answer at end game

It has occurred to me that it’s possible he set up a deal with Alison and Nutella tho, if Nutella is mafia that’s two mafia targets in a row to start the game

Idk that’s pure speculation idk if it even tracks well with game events so

Thundercat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:21 pm Unless LC is the real mafia and he was in cahoots with the real gambit demon, but that's soooo reachy

I don’t think that works? He clearly actually had comms with Alison, unless GD just gets comms with the lost wolf by default then LC’s gotta be gambit demon. And I’d expect that to show in lost wolf’s flip if it were the case.

Also going against nutella is that she directed mac away from shooting whoever was in the TH slot at the time, Myo IIRC

Thundercat wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:18 pm Mafia has to be alive, there are still kills happening.

I mean yeah that would be my assumption too but idk this game is fucky

I feel like the correct answer is to kill LC who has allegedly achieved his wincon but is still in the game for some reason

I mean that’s not helpful, obviously you’re not gonna say if you can’t win with town

I hate this game

It’s potentially possible that there aren’t mafia left at all and it’s just town v 3p at this point

Fuck potential LYLO means one of the 3p can’t win with town I think, cause there’s confirmed only one mafia left at most

That's not happening tonight obviously

Now I’m gonna have to go through NIKs reads to see if his gun choices made sense aren’t I

Fuck

Let’s go through mech again, he said to himself

LC is gambit demon, I’m just taking this as being true.

TC may or may not be 3p but holy fuck if there’s two mafia that it takes multiple tries to kill then I’m just gonna lose to that shit

Nutella has been super townie mac had her locked she’s actually been posting and efforting and shit, she also has the least confirmed claim and “you can see I was scum reading poly” is easy to point to later if you’re distancing from a partner.

NIK has a pretty good gunsmith claim but it’s not impossible to fake and the person he was supposed to gun post claim died on a night it was weird for them to die on


The NKs aren’t actually helpful cause both NIK and Nutella have to make the same kills, Nutella has to have plausible deniability for why she’s alive and NIK has to kill nova so he isn’t outed by nova not having a gun


This was extremely unhelpful

Maybe I’ll just flip a coin idfk

I’m going to assume that the 3p can’t win with mafia or what’s the point in playing this out

Or at least one can’t

Or LC is the only 3p alive and TC is mafia

But if there’s two mafia roles that can’t die the first time you kill them what the fuck is that design

So it’s back to nutella or NIK

It’s also hard when me and Nutella seem to be the only non-3p players even posting so

I guess it’s nutella

But why kill joe then

Is it nik and that’s why nova died

I don’t fucking know

I don’t know how to win this game

@NIK @Joe Who? would be cool if you voted today

This is exciting

As in your POE theoretically hasn’t changed yeah

So why is it hard now and wasn’t before, the stakes were the same

112 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:15 am This game suddenly became really hard.

Why would you think that if you have the reads you say you did yesterday

If we’re gonna run up a 3p today I’d rather run up LC, ostensibly having achieved his wincon but still being around is kinda weird, and given that the plan with him came from alison to begin with...idk he’s seemingly been townsiding and I would rather kill for mafia today, but if we’re not gonna kill for mafia he seems like a bigger threat to me than TC.

Roleblocks are not announced if you don’t have a night action fwiw

That would be very weird

Either way I wasn’t told I was blocked obviously, if blocks are loud then TC is not the last mafia

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:43 pm Nanook were you blocked last night?

How would I know I’m a glorified VT

I’m blaming mac if this is wrong and you’re mafia

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:00 am Tbh I also don’t really read you particularly well so I’m more weighing other peoples reads on you than I am my own

I mean... same lol

That’s like the opposite of what you’ve been doing and saying!

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:01 am Remember how in the game that just ended I locked you town and then everyone else mischopped you and I just kind of forgot to stop them


Yeah this game is nothing like that one but man if you're town here I wish it was that easy


Idk what my point is I'm just sort of coming around to you probably being town but god your play is just so variable lol

Yeah eight player games are a lot easier for me to dig into early tbh

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:59 am Is it actually true that mac has never been wrong about you because if so I do actually put some stock into that

Not since our first game together I think

Idk I might be forgetting older games but he’s like five out of our last five or something like that, including reading me correctly in some of my relatively lower volume games

Tbh I also don’t really read you particularly well so I’m more weighing other peoples reads on you than I am my own

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:55 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:48 am Like you see why it’s so hard for me to get to an answer that isn’t you being mafia right

I mean I understand my claim is the least proveable but I'm also literally the most townie person in the game so that should compensate a bit

I feel like a broken record at this point but like, the degree to which players have been villagery in general needs to be weighed along with roleclaims at this point of solving, since even if everyone has a claimed role *someone* is probably lying and it's probably in one of the scummier people that I was onto at some point earlier in the game and there just happened to be some mech that worked out for them

I mean I’m clearly weighing it and considering, there are reasons to TR you but there’s also A LOT of mech reasons to TR everyone else lol

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:53 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:47 am 112 being the rolecop in that team is kinda weird tho

And rolecop plus doppelgänger plus soup kill is like

Really fucking strong

Any chance I could get you to elaborate on that first point a little lmao

Why is it weird for 112 specifically


And yeah it would be a strong combo but I'm kinda past that kind of host/setup read at this point, sprityo be wildin and we demolished the wolfteam regardless of how strong they were anyway lol

Ok let’s assume that 112 is mafia and a rolecop, so the team is

112 rolecop
Jack Templar (which is pretty ???? already tbh)
Poly nexus
Sabie doppelgänger

I’m assuming that oblit was assigned, which seems...likely? I think? Idk it’s a weird role to be pickable tbh


Idk I was thinking 112 being rolecop was a weird fit but now that I write it out scum team made some uh

Interesting choices

So that isn’t a setup read I care about any more lol

And yet my reads are usually about as good as yours and I get TKed about the same rate as you

Weird

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:49 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:46 am

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:44 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:43 am There is no chance I’m reading your ISO

Just skim through like day 1 or whatever, witness me dunking on wolves, profit

I’m telling you now I’m very very unlikely to read your ISO, I just do not have that kind of energy for this game

Ok well just recognize that like

All the people who have actually read the game locked me as town

So if you're really going to push me as scum you really have to sell it and you don't have the backing for it

I have read most of the game I’m just not gonna ISO you with like 500 posts at this point in time

Like you see why it’s so hard for me to get to an answer that isn’t you being mafia right

112 being the rolecop in that team is kinda weird tho

And rolecop plus doppelgänger plus soup kill is like

Really fucking strong

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:44 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:43 am There is no chance I’m reading your ISO

Just skim through like day 1 or whatever, witness me dunking on wolves, profit

I’m telling you now I’m very very unlikely to read your ISO, I just do not have that kind of energy for this game