The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 9:02 pm Nutella TL just takes a pot shot at someone at the beginning of the day and it’s already failed if they’re both wolves

If Nutella is wolf with someone here in the thread right now, doesn't she always take a shot at town at the beginning of the day?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:59 pm I kinda want to push Nutella into making decisions without having full information here

That's not cool.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:59 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:56 pm Yeah, right? And we chop Quin if it goes south. Actually, we should just chop Quin right now

If you're, like, the tiebreaker for yeets, then we can afford to shoot Quin if you're town.

If it’s ... Nutella/TL?

If you are town, and Nutella and TL are the mafia, then both of us vote one of them, they vote for one of us, and you break the tie right? That's what you're suggesting that you can do, right? If this is the case, why don't you want Nutella to take a shot?

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:56 pm Yeah, right? And we chop Quin if it goes south. Actually, we should just chop Quin right now

If you're, like, the tiebreaker for yeets, then we can afford to shoot Quin if you're town.

Because even if there are 2 mafia, you still have the power to choose who gets yeeted in a tie.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:56 pm Yeah, right? And we chop Quin if it goes south. Actually, we should just chop Quin right now

If you're, like, the tiebreaker for yeets, then we can afford to shoot Quin if you're town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:55 pm Okay so here’s what we do: shoot quin. If shooting Quin goes well, block whoever doc whoever. If there is no kill, we have 5 with one wolf, two shots, almost auto. If there IS a kill, we have 4 with one wolf AND can shoot Alison for free.

Are you claiming to be the tiebreaker for yeets or not?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:52 pm Yeah okay unless it’s TL/Hyena that’s fine

We literally roleblocked the same person you locked up. Quin was the only one who didn't vote with us.

Everyone seems scummy right now.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:47 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:46 pm Also, if Alison is mafia, we literally reduced our odds of yeeting mafia today to 1 in 5 instead of 2 in 6.

We have to get both of them, it doesn’t matter in what order.

I realize we have to get both of them, but tell me which one of us five is the mafia if Alison is mafia. And if Alison is town, which two are the mafia?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:47 pm remind me who was blocked the night before last

TSP, and there wasn't a kill that night either.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:46 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:45 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:43 pm (There is a little more to my role though I’m op)

Can you, like, full claim? It just feels like people are conveniently claiming abilities now as they see fit.

Arbitrarily, no. TL has some crazy doctor power or something that hasn’t been explained at all, I have a relatively minor thing that should be obvious based on my action last night and yesterday’s chop.

Wait, so you get to decide on the yeet if there's a tie?

Also, if Alison is mafia, we literally reduced our odds of yeeting mafia today to 1 in 5 instead of 2 in 6.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:43 pm (There is a little more to my role though I’m op)

Can you, like, full claim? It just feels like people are conveniently claiming abilities now as they see fit.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:39 pm I mean it's possible alison is the real doc and tl is taking advantage of her not being allowed to post? maybe?

Punk chat roleblocked Alison. If she was the real doc, her action wouldn't have gone through.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:33 pm I blocked Alison, I assumed punks would block Nutella. From my POV, this had the highest chance of stopping a kill. I also have reason to believe mafia wouldn’t instantly win a 2-2, but I didn’t think we’d be in that boat anyways. But like: if you have a vig shot at 4-2, you take the vig shot because you have the most information. I view this as similar.

Wait. So, in addition to being able to lock up people, having a bullet proof vest, and having some other sort of ability that you tried using on Sloonei the night he died, you can also block people?

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:12 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:10 pm Trustworthy, would you be willing to share who you saved last night? o:

That info wouldn't only hinder reads.
So no I shall not at this moment.
Wasn't TSP obviously

Okay, okay, understood.

Wait... stuff Trustworthy said during the night is actually starting to make more sense now from a TP-role POV. THAT's why it would've been really bad if you were the the yeet last night in addition to Quin being able to mess with the RB vote, right?

Trustworthy, would you be willing to share who you saved last night? o:

Trustworthy Liberal wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:03 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:01 pm Punk chat RB'd Alison last night. I have no clue what the no kill implies.

It ws the TP who totally didn't openly soft claim no sir not them

Wait, you're actually a TP role?

Punk chat RB'd Alison last night. I have no clue what the no kill implies.

Also, I realized why I'm having so much trouble feeling confident about everything. Because you guys yeeted two wolves before the punk gang came into the thread, they didn't get a chance to interact with any of the punks, which would have given us more to make reads off on after they flipped scum.

Okay, I just had another thought (sorry that keep making posts like this, lol):

What if Quin was the MAIN mafia and TSP was the LW with a bulletproof vest. In this case, it doesn't matter TSP was roleblocked twice in a row because maybe Quin was the one who could nightkill.

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:47 pm In that world, I think {me, Quin, TSP, Nutella, Alison} are all town, which would leave a PoE of {TL, Marmot} ... and we think there are two mafia left?

The only issue I have with this, though, is that the interactions between TL and Marmot don't feel very partner-y. o:

In that world, I think {me, Quin, TSP, Nutella, Alison} are all town, which would leave a PoE of {TL, Marmot} ... and we think there are two mafia left?

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:43 pm I wonder if Trustworthy sent the note to Nutella to shoot Alison.

Because, like, the vibe I got from all the talking in punk chat the other night is that he had a feeling there was one scum between Nutella and Alison. Maybe he knows they are both town and sent the note to Nutella so that if Alison got shot and flipped town, Trustworthy would have an easier time pushing Nutella for it.

I wonder if Trustworthy sent the note to Nutella to shoot Alison.

So, like, if we yeet someone today, we end up in LyLo tomorrow if a mafia kill goes through, right? Which means if Nutella is scum and Alison is town, all Nutella would have to do is shoot Alison and the mafia will win right?

Sorry that I've been so inactive this game, y'all. I've been having a lot of trouble getting into this game.

The only thing I've got, which hasn't changed, is that I don't want to yeet TSP or Quin today.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:27 am I dunno, that feels like a stretch.

So... like... I know it miiiight be a stretch? Lol. Buuuut... it seems to work out perfectly in my head.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:24 am There wasn't a not when Syn was killed though, although I guess it's likely someone else (possibly Sloonei) was killed instead

Did someone receive a note Night 1 that they revealed?

This is where my theory breaks down, because as far as I can tell, no note was revealed. I'll check again though to be sure.

So, here's what I get from this:

Nutella is a lost wolf
TSP is most likely town, if not mechanically locked town
Quin is subjectively locked town for me because they protected TSP when everybody seemed to be turning against him, including me

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:13 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:09 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.

Oh wait, was it Quin? Or was it someone else? Either way, I recall someone mentioning this possibility.

And because Nutella is a lost wolf, she doesn't know if the note came from town or scum, so I think she outs what the note says either way if this is what's happening.

I think Quin thinks I'm the lost wolf, but that nutella is the true mafia.

In the scenario I'm thinking about, the lost wolf is more likely to have the bulletproof vest, not the main mafia, because the main mafia would be the one(s) making the night kills. With her dayvig ability and her potential to kill mafia, I think she'd be a HUGE target for mafia last night. Thus, it makes more sense that she's the lost wolf with a bulletproof vest. The icing on the top is that she received a message, just like Sloonei did when he died, which makes me think notes get sent and revealed by those who get attacked by the main mafia.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:12 am Actually, don't nutella and TSP also have a private chat? So much info has come out in this thread, I'm having trouble recollecting.

Wait, they do? I don't remember seeing this.

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:09 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.

Oh wait, was it Quin? Or was it someone else? Either way, I recall someone mentioning this possibility.

And because Nutella is a lost wolf, she doesn't know if the note came from town or scum, so I think she outs what the note says either way if this is what's happening.

Because from a lost wolf's perspective, if the note came from town, they could possibly have knowledge about Alison's alignment. So, she can't necessarily hide the note from us. Plus, if she shoots Alison and she flips scum, that's more town cred, right? On the other hand, if the note came from scum, this could be an attempt to tell them that Alison IS town and is a safe shot. Or the note itself can be complete WIFOM, lol.

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:06 am I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.

Oh wait, was it Quin? Or was it someone else? Either way, I recall someone mentioning this possibility.

And because Nutella is a lost wolf, she doesn't know if the note came from town or scum, so I think she outs what the note says either way if this is what's happening.

I think Quin is right here. I think Nutella could be the lost wolf.

Now, I don't know if this necessarily clears Alison, but let's get back to Nutella.

If she's a lost wolf, she doesn't know who her partners are, right? So, don't you think she'd try to shoot towny people? And didn't people think LC was pretty towny? Or at least not TOO scummy?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:02 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am Also, Sloonei got that message thingy when they died. Who got the message thingy today and did NOT die? :P

*hint hint*

nutella got a message. She was told that Alison is the person she can yeet.

Correct.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:01 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:58 pm Also, do you think mafia chooses to attack TSP last night?

I mean, I could think of worse choices.

Yeah, me too, but who would be the MOST likely you think? Or the two most likely since you can probably make an argument mafia would try to attack me last night, too, since I was a consensus townread.

Was there a message from the dead person after N1? I don't remember.

Hyena wrote: ↑Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:00 am Also, Sloonei got that message thingy when they died. Who got the message thingy today and did NOT die? :P

*hint hint*

Also, Sloonei got that message thingy when they died. Who got the message thingy today and did NOT die? :P

Also, do you think mafia chooses to attack TSP last night?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:56 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:55 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:54 pm lol, I just had a thought

What if the lost wolf has a bullet proof vest (or an infinite number of them) and the mafia attacked them last night? In a game I played a couple years, I was a lost wolf with an infinite number of vests, and this is how the mafia eventually found me.

In this case, the lost wolf doesn't have to be TSP. Like, who do you guys think would have been the most likely to be attacked last night?

TSP, the guy who claimed to have a bulletproof vest.

Yes, I realized TSP is claiming to have a bulletproof vest, but is it possible that he's not the only one that does?

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:56 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:53 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:11 am

Poison wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:51 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 11:01 pm well claims don't really help cause roles are distributed semi-randomly but maybe an action claim helps

I know nothing about my role, lol. Everything is a maybe - maybe not. With no specification what my role is. I targeted mac and nothing happened.

well something clearly happened

the host informed me nothing happened from my role.

this is not confirmation of being roleblocked. sigh.

This is what I implied in my last post, I thought. o:

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:54 pm lol, I just had a thought

What if the lost wolf has a bullet proof vest (or an infinite number of them) and the mafia attacked them last night? In a game I played a couple years, I was a lost wolf with an infinite number of vests, and this is how the mafia eventually found me.

In this case, the lost wolf doesn't have to be TSP. Like, who do you guys think would have been the most likely to be attacked last night?

lol, I just had a thought

What if the lost wolf has a bullet proof vest (or an infinite number of them) and the mafia attacked them last night? In a game I played a couple years, I was a lost wolf with an infinite number of vests, and this is how the mafia eventually found me.

Hyena wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:00 pm

Poison wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 12:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:42 am @Poison who is mafia?

Hmm.. I don't know the answer yet. I think I don't see Alison as bad as I was seeing her before. I'll be reading the thread again.

I visited mac last night but nothing happened. I wonder if it is because of my role's probabilities or it had something to do with him being outside the thread rn.

No RB message it looks like, but it looks like the roleblock might have gone through?

This is what I found, Quin and Marmot, in case you missed it. :P

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:11 am Sorry for the delay, sometimes the universe is a slow place. Something something the value of patience.

In the night! @Syn dies, and they flip as:

Loyal Sidekick

You are aware that [redacted] is town (they do not know your alignment). The first time they would die (except to TK) you will die in their place.

You are town, and you win when all the mafia are eliminated

In addition! @Alison has been removed from the thread today. She cannot vote or be voted for.

In addition! @MacDougall has been removed from the thread today. He cannot vote or be voted for.

[mention]Alison[/mention]
There wasn't a message like this at the beginning of the day today, and TSP is suggesting that he tried locking up Quin last night.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 02, 2020 10:08 pm If he got a blocked message N2 he would not come out assuming that he was responsible for giving the note to and/or killing Sloonei.

Nanook said in the day opening post that you and Mac got locked up the day it happen. o: I thought that was TSP. That happened D2, right?