The Syndicate

juliets wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:02 pm 1) his original claim that he was vanilla before claiming he was a vote nullifier. I know he says he was high but it still doesn't sit well with me. Can you be so high that you think your role claim says "vanilla town" instead of having an explanation of a role?

I love this read lol

I want it to be correct, it's so good and I also thought about it

It's also a very funny argument to die from

I actually really like your first point

I'll ponder on it

Do you have any reasoning / could make a case?

nvm I think I got what you mean

alright

Oh

I am not talking about the lie detector, Poison.

I'm talking about the role cop.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:20 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:15 pm Why did you holster on the third inspection?
Because I have only one shot left with it and I wanted a narrowr belt of songs did not want to waste it. For I feel like If it's not me, you have nothing you can catch the 3P with. Do you?

So I don't get why you'd holster? Like it doesn't add up to me.

so, basically you get like a roulette of 3 songs each night?

and if you don't perform any action on those ones, you get a new set the next night?

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:20 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:15 pm Why did you holster on the third inspection?
Because I have only one shot left with it and I wanted a narrowr belt of songs did not want to waste it. For I feel like If it's not me, you have nothing you can catch the 3P with. Do you?

We don't know if the 3p is a threat at all, but sure, take this as an ego boost or whatever.

Why did you holster on the third inspection?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:06 pm but you walking into D7 with a bold assumption for a town reads list isn't a stretch and it's a very solid argument still.

Like, do I see you doing it as town? Probably.

My argument isn't that you are inactive and that is an indicator for you alignment. My point was more that you act like you care when you don't.

Again, you threw your entire reads for a huge leap of faith. I don't really know what your scum reads are.

Hunting for 3p is grasping for straws as is, if you were expecting me to out you without having any mechanical idea of what a 3p does then I'm sorry I didn't meet your expectations lol.

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:05 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:01 pm out every role cop thing, you said you had results on d1 and d2 that you wanted to out d3 or d4. It's d7.
Again you didn't and don't read my posts. Okay ugh lemme write it all again and I can tell you my conditions but it is on you when I can't use the role cop card ability no more.

don't write conditions, just out results

Also, I do admit the phrasing TMI thing is a stretch.

but you walking into D7 with a bold assumption for a town reads list isn't a stretch and it's a very solid argument still.

ok, talk about those again please

out every role cop thing, you said you had results on d1 and d2 that you wanted to out d3 or d4. It's d7.

Poison, I'm not arguing you're a wolf, I'm arguing you're a 3p

Idc if you push scum lmao, you don't have info on them

you have been hoarding info since d1, it's d7, what do you have

poison talk about your entire info

Logic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:52 pm Yeah, I'm not thinking more on this right now; I will move to compete withy own wagon, but spf seems like a better call to me.
[VOTE: SPF] aubergine

Can you talk about this for a bit? Why's it better?

Did you read my explanation on why spf is likely to be non-mafia (at least :P)

Just make Poison claim all of her results, she should have a bunch of info on cards that she didn't come out with for whatever reason.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:38 am actually - don't reply to that

@Poison Chan what did you mean with that question? "Does it work like that?" like what were you referring to?

also - talk about that x-shot conditional cop role, you never talked about it.

you had n1 and n2 info, something about coming out different.

actually - don't reply to that

[mention]Poison Chan[/mention] what did you mean with that question? "Does it work like that?" like what were you referring to?

It's hard to describe it, it's a way of messing up your entire built thought process in order to refute a single argument because you have TMI

She basically argued against her ability being town sided in order for me to drop my line that pushed a 3p angle on her. Does that make sense?

As a town, how could you possibly put yourself in a 3p's shoes like that? How could you, as a town, argue that your ability is not town sided?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:26 am Yeah nah youre probs bang on about PC too. Being able to out a mafia role off a n1 action is pretty OP for a town role.

yeah - feeling good about it

also, read our interaction like a few pages ago although I could misconstrue it

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:32 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:59 pm
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:27 pm I skimmed through a bit. @tedxtr why do you think I'm a 3P? Do you think if I was one and I have the wincon of matching songs, would I be ballsy enough to claim my role likr that instead of making something up?
You don't need to have balls to claim your role if you help the village with it.
Does it really work that way though?

This looks to me exactly like a wifom defence from a 3p angle. She's arguing that her ability isn't actually the way she described it as or doesn't help the village.

Like, what? What is she asking me there? "Does my ability really look that town sided?" lol

fine

[VOTE: logic ] aubergine

how did Dizzy out Samu again? can you walk me through that?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:15 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:14 am if we hit scum!dizzy here please yeet poison after, assuming game doesn't end
You reckon poison has higher 3p chance than spf?

Yeah

what kinda town walks into D7, neglects all of their reads and goes

"Yeah magpie prolly town and everyone who said it was probably town"

poison should be more paranoid than that and have more complex reads, she doesn't care for the game

I guess it's not as solid because it's dependent on whether she actually cares about this game as a town but anecdotally speaking ; she should be more engaging here, whereas she's starting to become more and more detached, thinking it's because she's close to reaching her wincon

if we hit scum!dizzy here please yeet poison after, assuming game doesn't end

juliets could maybe still be scum but idk -.-

We have a PoE - Dizzy isn't cleared, neither is Logic, we just yeet there and figure it out after.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:09 am Magpie isn't town clearing people or else magpie wouldn't be voting for me today.

So if magpie doesn't think magpie is town clearing people nobody else should think magpie is town clearing people.

And if magpie isn't town clearing people magpie is 3p.

We kill the 3p and then make the mafia thin the herd again. Plan is sound. Let's do it.

Only poison thinks that - and I think she's very likely 3p.

nobody said magpie clears people and that's why they're town

it's about finding magpie because they are on king of the limbs and we have info that's a clean album

PoE says it's spf and that's all there is to it

i know mac, this game's a whole mess

well, at least town learned their lesson

never mass claim d2

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 8:04 am Fmpov the person least likely to flip town is SPF.

she's magpie

king of the limbs album

we know king of the limbs has no mafia on it so it can't be a mafia role and she's the only one left that can have that

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:36 pm Let's assume Ted's claim is real. Why is it a town claim?

bro

i've been cleared

5 times

5 times mac

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:28 am Logic/dya claims a track of alison to themselves fwiw

Not sure if mafia NKs the cop then claims the cop was checking them lol

talking about this ^

meh idk if I agree with that

if the role doesn't work as I described it than why would it matter

Logic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:27 pm Welp.
I tracked Alison to me.

ohhhhhhhh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:29 am I would assume it works that mafia are informed at SOD

Otherwise it’s kind of janky

the wording isn't really clear iyam but you're probably right

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:28 am Logic/dya claims a track of alison to themselves fwiw

Not sure if mafia NKs the cop then claims the cop was checking them lol

yeah, I was gonna vote dizzay anyway but I did miss that thing

all the merrier :P

That entire analysis is based on the fact that Alison's role works exactly in this way

Alison sends a target through PM, and when Sloonei receives that, he announces the mafia of the cop's target

AND NOT LIKE THIS :

Alison sends multiple targets and then mafia get notified of the last check once SoD starts.

N1 - TSP civillian
N2 - Nanook civillian (mafia didn't know the target ; likely to be a correct peek)
N3 - LC civillian (mafia knew the target ; Tim got yeeted D3)
N4 - Wilgy civilian (mafia knew target)
N5 - Oddmerta civ (mafia didn't know target - likely to be correct)
N6 - ? but mafia knew the target

I think this heavily implies Alison was outing a mafia here?

I admit I'm a massive moran (yeah, spelled like that) and didn't even know about her entire role up until now, I thought she was a normal cop and didn't know about the mafia notifications fml

Judging based off her role, it's very unlikely that there would be a godfather? Although Samu looked like a TMI machine in hindsight.

I think it's more indicative of a bus driver at most.

I will therefore treat Nanook and Oddmerta as green peeks and will stake the game on those two.

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I will now argue against a bus driver (lol) ; if there was a bus driver, I don't think Alison dies there. I think it's very likely that she checked mafia and that's why she got cap'd. Mafia knew who she targetted, why not keep her in play and just transport one more time if

a) she was gonna check a fake clear ; at which point the fake clear knows and just transports with a green

b) she was gonna check PoE ; at which point, the mafia that she checked (transporter) would transport himself with a green

Bonus point that almost always gets rid of the transporter theory

c) Why didn't mafia frame PoE people into reds? I mean, if you know the checks, what's stopping you?

It's very likely that there is no transporter and thus will likely yeet in the pool of who Alison was the most likely to check, which was Dizzy and Dya?

Or at the very least, the transporter is 3p which sounds dumb lol.

It's about pretending to care about the game but actually not caring at all.

something like that

I'm like...the most confident on Poison being 3p here.

Don't think she walks into toDay with a list of town reads and going "These are probably town because of some mechanic that I don't know, but I've seen it working a past time so it's gotta be right this time"

???

feel like she'd care about the game more as town here but I am not that convinced about that because of other stuff.

[VOTE: Dizzay ] aubergine

Nanook we gotta flip a coin and see who ends up in F3

oh lol nook is sprityo's counterpart, I didn't even notice

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:05 pm
Day 2

’This is a roundup.’

sprityo has been eliminated. He was...
Spoiler: show
Burn the Witch.
Album: A Moon Shaped Pool
(Mafia)

'Abandon all reason, avoid all eye contact, do not react, shoot the messengers.’
You may select a player not aligned with you each Night. If that player is eliminated the following day, you begin the next day with -2 votes against you in the poll.
You will also receive a report on any vote manipulation associated with that player on that day; any vote cast by or against your target with a value other than 1 will be reported to you.
Additionally, on two separate nights, you can target a player to falsify any reports they might receive. You may not target the same player twice with this ability.

It is Night 2. Players will have 22 hours to submit their night actions.
The thread will remain open tonight.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:45 am I mean, why does your role even exist. You've seem all the flips so far amd vote nullification doesn't do anything to the scum so far

We had 3 vote manipulation roles, one of which was mafia

Are you serious

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:04 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:59 pm like what position do you have to be arguing from in order to make a comment like that

"Do my abilities really help the village? Hmmm"
No I'm not saying that I'm saying would a 3P be so careless as to reveal it like that just because they help the villagers?

why do you think it's careless?

like what position do you have to be arguing from in order to make a comment like that

"Do my abilities really help the village? Hmmm"

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