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by hollowkatt
Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:53 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D8

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:16 pm Game over, Mafia team of DDL and falcon win

Will release spec/dead and mafia chat later
ty for hosting nanook, this was super fun! I think the 3p mechanics vs everyone else is vanilla was really interesting and made for a lot of neat solves.

I'm happy for DDL getting there in the end, that was a hard fought victory. Bummed I couldn't wiggle out of my chop but that's the way the cookie crumbles some times.
Town played really well, and the dead were really accurate. It's hard to overcome the spew/false clears some times, this is one of those times.
by hollowkatt
Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:43 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Dyslexicon wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 11:28 am @hollowkatt Is there anything you’d like to say?
gg I was katze
by hollowkatt
Sun Apr 17, 2022 9:17 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

MacDougall wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 12:11 am
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 pm
MacDougall wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:06 pm Hollowkatt would be swimming with the fishes right now if not for the fact that I know I'd be dead n1 100% of the time if he had a choice. So at best he's maf 3p.

If Dizzy got taken off the table I'd probably put a bullet in Arcbell first.
I'm hurt, sir, that you underestimate my pocketing skills that much.
I N1 Seanzie every time
why?
I struggle to fool him
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:58 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

with all that said I'm going back to bed. I hope to be here for EOD
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:58 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:54 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:53 pmdid jacks wagon dissipate yesterday b/c he showed up and did things or did it just kinda "vaguely shimmies away"
Probably a combination.

However, I don't know if that is a sign of much, because if a mafia is wagoned here, there's only one other mafia to sway things, who may or may not know that the player being wagoned is mafia.
yeah
I think it more says jack likely town. like ok, if there was a concerted effort to shift the wagon then maybe that's wolf indicative. If there was a concerted effort to dismantle the wagon or the wagon just kinda "shimmies away" then it's town indicative. Most of the time I find wanting to shift a wagon is a wolf save thing whereas dismantling the wagon (ala hey friends jack is town do something else) then it's likely town indicative
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:53 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:48 pm I looked through NAA's iso, and I don't think it's scummy. Leaning towny for him.

Every time I try to explore "but could it be this person", I don't come away feeling great about them being mafia. When this happened to me last game, it was because mafia was in the ones I (and the whole thread) was not considering. This would be DDL and Screen for me at this time. Still have a very hard time seeing that.

I'm feeling rather neutral on Jack, Mizery and Porscha. Honestly, it doesn't feel quite correct to vote HK, but my reasoning for voting him is the best I have.

I have some tangible reasons to think Mac, Lag, NAA are town.

Arc is pocketing me hard. I will be very sad if he's mafia.
did jacks wagon dissipate yesterday b/c he showed up and did things or did it just kinda "vaguely shimmies away"
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:48 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:43 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:36 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:35 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:16 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:56 pmWhat changer your view of DDL?

Do you have an overall world view of the game right now?
I was trying to be spicy. it didn't work.
What does that mean?

What did you have in mind?
I mean I didn't really wolf read DDL at all but wanted to do something flashy to either get engagement or drive discussion but neither of those things happened.
I just cussed out Mac and acted dumb instead. For the flashing. Hawt tbh
what can I say, horny dizzy is town dizzy
soz I don't make the rules. Everyone get off dizzy now plx
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:47 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:41 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:37 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:31 pm Jack/Porscha doesn't look like it's a thing. Jack voted her 7 min before EoD, I followed. But I do think it's conceivable that Porscha could be run down. There was a lot of chaos during EoD.
They wouldn't know of each other's existence given that Falcon was the team mafia, yeah?
Well, yeah. Unless Jack 3p. Knowing of each other only goes one way. Though the mafia might have a good idea.
do you think the 3p would want to signal here or not? I was thinking about that in my fevered half-sleep this afternoon and couldn't come to a decision
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:39 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:37 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:31 pm Jack/Porscha doesn't look like it's a thing. Jack voted her 7 min before EoD, I followed. But I do think it's conceivable that Porscha could be run down. There was a lot of chaos during EoD.
They wouldn't know of each other's existence given that Falcon was the team mafia, yeah?
correct, wolf 3p is unknown to the wolf team
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:36 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:35 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:16 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:56 pmWhat changer your view of DDL?

Do you have an overall world view of the game right now?
I was trying to be spicy. it didn't work.
What does that mean?

What did you have in mind?
I mean I didn't really wolf read DDL at all but wanted to do something flashy to either get engagement or drive discussion but neither of those things happened.
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:28 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

MacDougall wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:06 pm Hollowkatt would be swimming with the fishes right now if not for the fact that I know I'd be dead n1 100% of the time if he had a choice. So at best he's maf 3p.

If Dizzy got taken off the table I'd probably put a bullet in Arcbell first.
I'm hurt, sir, that you underestimate my pocketing skills that much.
I N1 Seanzie every time
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:20 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

everyone not me viewing the thread are either dead, bots, or arcbell
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:17 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Mizery wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:44 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:27 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:19 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:17 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm

My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been :werewolf:
feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.
You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire
legit
Where's the HK from Deck Mafia's revenge of the 3p?
you mean the one that was wrong on just about everyone? who wasn't listening, who didn't try to work with others, who thought he had all the answers? that HK?
I killed him, he's an asshole.
sorry, the new hk can't come to the phone right now. why? because he's dead
^^
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:17 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 5:19 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:04 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:02 pm Did we lose?
depends are you a wolf?
What do you think and why?

I've noticed you reading me correctly a lot of time. I'm curious.
from checking my notifications:

I think I've gotten pretty good at reading you, or it's TMI not sure which
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:16 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:56 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:52 pmI think DDL is cleared. Not only were they on falcon but falcon died on them. I don't see that as being paired.
I didn't read a lot of D1 and ended up just sheeping my top town reads (dizzy/seanzie) for the chop.
What changer your view of DDL?

Do you have an overall world view of the game right now?
I was trying to be spicy. it didn't work.

[VOTE: nuthin] aubergine
my overall world view is this:
Image

also in the spoiler before anyone else says it
Spoiler: show
Image
all I have are townies:

you
mac
lag
jack
ddl
arc
srceen

leaves
mizery
naa
porscha

and I don't know which of those I want to vote for
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:55 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:54 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:50 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:37 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)
why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult
I like the way Arcbell thinks and have a weakness to it.

But actually his posts do feel towny, I'm not entirely sure why, but I have a gut townread on him.
this phrasing is weird.
I find arc townie b/c of his posts, you seem to be saying you find him townie despite his townie posts?
I find his posts townie, I'm just not entirely sure why I find his posts townie though.

What part was unclear?
the part where it read like your town read of arc is separate from you thinking his posts are townie
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:55 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:51 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:48 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:35 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)
In that game you jumped into solving within the first few pages of the game, your start this game seems much slower.

How come?
bruh I made 12 posts, vanished for most of D1, came back to sheep on the falcon wagon and then promptly passed the fuck out again
The posts you made at the start of this day 1 were pretty much all fluff except for 1 post.

The posts you made at the start of day 1 in that other game had more substance.

If you're town you have all of day 3 to clear yourself though. Have you looked into Mizery more? Any new reads or thoughts?

Readslist maybe?
did you forget this post existed?
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:38 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:37 pm Also did Hollowkatt just ninja a vote right now?
no, I realized on "new page" that I had only voted Jack in the thread, not in the poll. Here's my vote post:
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie
I pulled DDL out of that list in the quote b/c I can't figure out how to do a strikethrough.

I missed what feels like most of D2 so this needs to be updated. I will get you that later this afternoon.

My only new thing is pulling DDL out of the town bucket. Dizzy being the counterwagon to the town aligned 3p should be telling me something but fucked if I know what it is.
still confident on mac and srceen tho.

should spend some time on NAA and Mizery today
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:50 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:37 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)
why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult
I like the way Arcbell thinks and have a weakness to it.

But actually his posts do feel towny, I'm not entirely sure why, but I have a gut townread on him.
this phrasing is weird.
I find arc townie b/c of his posts, you seem to be saying you find him townie despite his townie posts?
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:48 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:35 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)
In that game you jumped into solving within the first few pages of the game, your start this game seems much slower.

How come?
bruh I made 12 posts, vanished for most of D1, came back to sheep on the falcon wagon and then promptly passed the fuck out again
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:31 pm I was hoping Arcbell had a volume tell, but he post-capped or near post-capped every day he was alive in the only other game I've played with him (he was wolf in that game)
why not just read for content? that shouldn't be difficult
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:32 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... rates-life

is the only one I have.
was the D2 due to a ridiculously good case from ender (he was a wolf)
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:19 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:17 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.
you're already policy voting, why state this?
My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been :werewolf:
feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.
You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire
legit
Where's the HK from Deck Mafia's revenge of the 3p?
you mean the one that was wrong on just about everyone? who wasn't listening, who didn't try to work with others, who thought he had all the answers? that HK?
I killed him, he's an asshole.
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:18 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

arc feels townie today
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:18 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:16 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:11 pm [VOTE: Dragon] aubergine

lets get spicy
Why Dragon?
was on falcon, falcon was on them, collectively town read last time I checked.
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:17 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:15 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.
you're already policy voting, why state this?
My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been :werewolf:
feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.
You've not been entirely absent, but like, I could basically copy paste the post I made from last game where I correctly wolf-read you there.

And the same logic applies here. You have no fire
legit
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:13 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:12 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm
Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.
you're already policy voting, why state this?
My vote on your isn't a policy vote.

You've been :werewolf:
feels like you're trying to push "absence = wolf" here.
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:11 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

[VOTE: Dragon] aubergine

lets get spicy
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:10 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:02 pm I'm policy wagoning anyone that hasn't voted by mid-day (12 hours into the day phase)

No reason to hold your vote.
you're already policy voting, why state this?
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:09 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:00 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:43 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:40 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:36 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:33 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:29 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:27 pm Someone talk to me, I hate backreading
Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?
The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.
why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?
It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.
god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.
This post also felt kind of pockety
I know HK respects my game a lot, but idk, something not sitting right with me here
I said this b/c I respect your game, and your reads, and it shook me out of my complacent mizery = town read that I had during D1.
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:59 pm [VOTE: Hollowkatt] aubergine

Do something
lemme see if I understand, you wolf read me b/c I haven't been here. Any good reasons or is that it?
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:08 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:47 pm Why Lime Coke? Was expecting them to shoot one of the falcon voters.
Feels like the below post is a reason why LC was killed. Keeps people guessing, keeps POE open on people like Mac who shouldn't be POE even if it is late game

Lag wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:57 pm we should vote earlier in the day rather than panic voting at the end. I have been recently convinced that flash wagoning is bad.

Dizzy's last minute legacy posting struck me as townie in the moment. But it's also something that's very easy for a wolf to fake.
Just because something is easy for a wolf to fake doesn't mean they always remember to actually fake it - but if they do remember, it's an easy thing to do.
I think that's slightly town indicative, but also Dizzy is probably good enough at wolfing to know to do that during a flash wagon to get a favorable result at the last second.

I think Jack's wagon on Porscha is actually >rand town indicative. It strikes me less as an "I might die today and need an opportunistic out that won't get me much backlash for mis-chopping" and more as a "this slot is never going to do anything AI, and we have no good reads today, so might as well"

Mac is trending down for me, he was pushing hard for me + Jack who are both players that are likely to be do AI things once we're invested in the game. That alone might be a pro-town move in order to get us to actually engage, but him living another night combined with the potential for feeling out a mischop on a player he knows would thunderdome him when it comes to LYLO because Mac shouldn't still be alive in LYLO - just trending down. Mac's still a town read, but if both me and Mac are still alive the day before LYLO, I will be thunderdoming him. But that won't be until Day 5 at the soonest.

Mizery is still being inexplicably townread. I intend to figure out Mizery today, I have a very good record of accurately reading her.

I have a gut-townread on Arcbell. Not sure why exactly, but it's there.

HK is also being inexplicably townread by people. I think HK has pretty decent wolf equity.
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:04 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

Dyslexicon wrote: Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:02 pm Did we lose?
depends are you a wolf?
by hollowkatt
Sat Apr 16, 2022 12:03 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D3

guess that's somewhat of an explanation of why rondo was weird
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:44 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

MacDougall wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:43 pm pick from the following

1. the mafia thought seanzie was a bigger issue than me
2. the wolves like playing with me more
3 the wolves are dumb
I feel like the line between 1 and 3 is infinitesimal.
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:23 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
Replies: 3919
Views: 55414

Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 9:02 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:43 pm god dammit lag stop doing things

Also what do you mean by this?
because I was quite content to town read mizery and then you had to go and blow it all up.
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:52 pm
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Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:47 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:43 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:40 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:36 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:33 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:29 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:27 pm Someone talk to me, I hate backreading
Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?
The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.
why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?
It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.
god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.
At this point I've technically played with, hydra'd with, or hosted 9 games with Mizery in the last 6 months. The meta tracks pretty well across all of those games.


What are your thoughts on day 1? Who do you think was cleared from that push?
I think DDL is cleared. Not only were they on falcon but falcon died on them. I don't see that as being paired.
I didn't read a lot of D1 and ended up just sheeping my top town reads (dizzy/seanzie) for the chop.
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:43 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:40 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:36 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:33 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:29 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:27 pm Someone talk to me, I hate backreading
Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?
The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.
why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?
It's almost exclusively fluff posts + lists of names with no explanations.
Town Illwei has significantly more depth of thought than that. Wolf Illwei is prone to doing just that.
god dammit lag stop doing things
I think my only experience with illwei wolf was in the hydra game we were wolves together and yeah that tracks pretty accurately.
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:38 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:37 pm Also did Hollowkatt just ninja a vote right now?
no, I realized on "new page" that I had only voted Jack in the thread, not in the poll. Here's my vote post:
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
DDL
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:36 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:33 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:29 pm
Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:27 pm Someone talk to me, I hate backreading
Why does Mizery feel like mafia to you?
The read is probably not accurate because Mizery was in the same game as me and I'm pretty sure we were both prioritizing that game at least 10x more since it was an invitational with a stacked playerlist. But when Mizery's ISO is devoid of any real content she's just >>rand wolf. Her ISO is devoid of content.

Although I have a very good record of reading Mizery, so I'm confident I'll be able to read her today if we get the chance to interact.
why do you feel like her ISO is devoid of content?
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:36 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Lag wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 8:35 pm Is there any way to see vote history here?
not unless someone else was doing screen grabs, or people posted their votes in the thread and you keep a manual count.
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:23 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Lime Coke wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:17 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:17 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:15 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
DDL
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie
If this is a not-mafia list, then no

If this is a town list, then yeah.
Yes this is a town list.
Blacklist for future games.
yes I absolutely should be perm blacklisted thank you for your support :D
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:17 pm
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Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

NotAnAxehole wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:15 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
DDL
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie
If this is a not-mafia list, then no

If this is a town list, then yeah.
Yes this is a town list.
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:13 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Porscha wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:10 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
DDL
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie
it isnt enough since you forgot me :)
provide good enough reasons to town read you and you can join the list.
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:08 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

townies:

HK
Mac
Dizzy
LC
DDL
Mizery
srceen
NAA

is that enough? I feel like that's enough

[VOTE: jackofhearts] aubergine
do something townie
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:56 pm
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Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

MacDougall wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:48 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:33 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:25 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pm

Well I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
I don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR mac
You have 2+the toonie loon. They can win with maf. I'm not saying I scumread Mac, but I think a non-TR is valid.
the toonie loon who is by definition a lost wolf?
I feel like playing to that "out" for lack of better word isn't something mac would be gunning for on D1. Maybe later in the game to cement some cred sure but D1 that feels wrong to me.
We have different opinions on this. I think a 2 wolf start with a powerwolf and a lost wolf is fine.
And I think that wolf?Mac doesn't take that offer on D1 and instead works to get someone else chopped instead but it doesn't look like Mac ever really pushed anyone outside of Falcon which would indicate to me that in a wolf?Mac world he felt hedged in to a Falcon chop extremely early whereas town?Mac probs goes "Falcon is pushing me for bad reasons? probs maf lets kill him"
town?mac = can read Falcon like a book and caught him easily and then buried him and didn't consider anything to the contrary

me being able to read falcon easily is nothing new.
I came into today thinking you were town and you can't change my mind
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:55 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

MacDougall wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:47 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:27 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:20 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:16 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:15 pmRONDO IS TOWN
is this new or is this still your catch-up from yesterday
This is from d1 EOD
interesting b/c I don't read it as town at all
why do you town read it?
Maf wants to play it cool if they're engaged in hammering their partner. Doesn't wanna give anything away. Rondo was giving deadlines for hammering falco and then demurring on it to me and jack. I feel like a progression like that makes maf uncomfortable. At the risk of sounding hedgey though this makes slightly less sense as I'm writing it than it did in my head.
see here's my problem with this:

on the one hand you're actively suspicious of people on the Falcon wagon (mac and luffy) where you're suspect of Mac for busing but then also suspicious of Rondo for... not busing?

Is this what you're trying to say:
Mac can be a wolf b/c he would bus here and has potential lost wolf outs to carry

and also

Rondo can be a wolf here because he didn't execute the bus
Lol get the fuck outta here.
you think I'm wrong on what Arcbell is trying to say or you think those are things I'm trying to say?
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:53 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:34 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:27 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:20 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:16 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:15 pmRONDO IS TOWN
is this new or is this still your catch-up from yesterday
This is from d1 EOD
interesting b/c I don't read it as town at all
why do you town read it?
Maf wants to play it cool if they're engaged in hammering their partner. Doesn't wanna give anything away. Rondo was giving deadlines for hammering falco and then demurring on it to me and jack. I feel like a progression like that makes maf uncomfortable. At the risk of sounding hedgey though this makes slightly less sense as I'm writing it than it did in my head.
see here's my problem with this:

on the one hand you're actively suspicious of people on the Falcon wagon (mac and luffy) where you're suspect of Mac for busing but then also suspicious of Rondo for... not busing?

Is this what you're trying to say:
Mac can be a wolf b/c he would bus here and has potential lost wolf outs to carry

and also

Rondo can be a wolf here because he didn't execute the bus
I'm saying Rondo prob isn't a wolf. And yea they're totally different situations so a direct comparison misses the point. Rondo was just in hammer position, didn't start the push. Mac was positioned to get full credit for it. Take my thoughts with a grain of salt, but don't misunderstand them :)
ok
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:33 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:25 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:21 pm I'm also having questions for Rondo and Arcbell although they're just different.

@Arcbell I asked for your townreads but you didn't give them quite yet before you hammered, still asking for those.

Rondo...I just have several questions...
Well I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
I don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR mac
You have 2+the toonie loon. They can win with maf. I'm not saying I scumread Mac, but I think a non-TR is valid.
the toonie loon who is by definition a lost wolf?
I feel like playing to that "out" for lack of better word isn't something mac would be gunning for on D1. Maybe later in the game to cement some cred sure but D1 that feels wrong to me.
We have different opinions on this. I think a 2 wolf start with a powerwolf and a lost wolf is fine.
And I think that wolf?Mac doesn't take that offer on D1 and instead works to get someone else chopped instead but it doesn't look like Mac ever really pushed anyone outside of Falcon which would indicate to me that in a wolf?Mac world he felt hedged in to a Falcon chop extremely early whereas town?Mac probs goes "Falcon is pushing me for bad reasons? probs maf lets kill him"
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:30 pm
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Topic: Ducktales Woo-oo POSTGAME (mafia win)
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:27 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:20 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:16 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:15 pmRONDO IS TOWN
is this new or is this still your catch-up from yesterday
This is from d1 EOD
interesting b/c I don't read it as town at all
why do you town read it?
Maf wants to play it cool if they're engaged in hammering their partner. Doesn't wanna give anything away. Rondo was giving deadlines for hammering falco and then demurring on it to me and jack. I feel like a progression like that makes maf uncomfortable. At the risk of sounding hedgey though this makes slightly less sense as I'm writing it than it did in my head.
see here's my problem with this:

on the one hand you're actively suspicious of people on the Falcon wagon (mac and luffy) where you're suspect of Mac for busing but then also suspicious of Rondo for... not busing?

Is this what you're trying to say:
Mac can be a wolf b/c he would bus here and has potential lost wolf outs to carry

and also

Rondo can be a wolf here because he didn't execute the bus
by hollowkatt
Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pm
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Re: Ducktales Woo-oo D2

Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:25 pm
hollowkatt wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:23 pm
Arcbell wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:19 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:21 pm I'm also having questions for Rondo and Arcbell although they're just different.

@Arcbell I asked for your townreads but you didn't give them quite yet before you hammered, still asking for those.

Rondo...I just have several questions...
Well I townread Seanzie... mostly I just ISO'd falco at EoD though. Dyslexicon is still a TR. Mac isn't a townread. He'd totally bus d1 for pelts. I'll think about it and get back to you. Rondo is town because it would be a little unnatural for maf to make a plan to hammer their partner then call it off because someone else wanted time, when I was gonna hammer anyways.
I don't think you bus D1 in this setup for pelts when you have a wolf pack of only 2. don't like that as a reason not to TR mac
You have 2+the toonie loon. They can win with maf. I'm not saying I scumread Mac, but I think a non-TR is valid.
the toonie loon who is by definition a lost wolf?
I feel like playing to that "out" for lack of better word isn't something mac would be gunning for on D1. Maybe later in the game to cement some cred sure but D1 that feels wrong to me.

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