The Syndicate

woah wait did zack actually flip on visor i missed that

my legacy is "follow sunbae's legacy" pending further thought/reading

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 9:06 am you should probably get some sort of legacy down fwiw

i'm gonna

[VOTE: dyachei] aubergine

no matter how i slice it, i very strongly dislike how lukewarm they were in their defense of me, their supposed top townread - even when the counterwagon was alison, their very vocal top wolfread

they focused almost entirely on pushing alison, but did very little to deter people from voting me

this isn't super congruous with a villagery mindset to begin with but i also know that dya specifically likes to shield strong townreads, and i selfishly would expect that to doubly apply to myself, given that i think they're probably quite confident in their ability to read me

i understand i'm preaching to the choir and this is almost more to convince myself than anything else, cause i think at the end of the day i don't WANT dya to be wolfing lol

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:42 am i hardclaim tracker

so you saw me visit your mom last night, then?

without doing any rereading i'm going to say it's very possible for arete to be a wolf here

why are you so confident dya's town, syn?

i'm gonna give dya some space, see what they do with it

syn wagon feels p comfy

[VOTE: Syn] aubergine

tbh i'm actually MORE confident in this one

is that weird

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:01 pm

Arete wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:01 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:54 pm syn thinks that dyachei is a villager. they think so because they don't believe that dyachei would give up and lolcat so easily, and that they'd be more likely to put up a fight as a wolf

fwiw I'm confident that this isn't true, in one of the hydra games (I think hydra game 3?) they were a wolf and spent a while lolcatting and then saying it wasn't wolf-AI

which it might not be, I'm willing to listen to the meta that they would do this as villa, but it's definitely not village indicative

@Amy now's your time to shine

@Arete dya posting cats rly is NAI lol

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:06 pm I should just start posting cats again with how likely I am to be listened to

i mean, right now my biggest issue is that you came into the day defending your catting instead of like... trying to actually solve the game

i get that it's a rough situation for you regardless of alignment, but if you're town it would be rly helpful for you to actually put in the work today. there are other suspects, your flipping isn't a guaranteed sure thing

dya i'm not voting you because i think your lolcatting was wolf indicative, i'm voting you because i think you're wolfing lol

nut's been pretty hard on dya all game

arete i want you to talk about quite literally everyone in the game EXCEPT vulgard

now that we've confirmed vulgard got redchecked i feel pretty confident that spf's reaction to the c4 "redcheck" is pretty much clearing for her

nutella i still don't wanna touch until f3

i wanna do dya or syn today i think

probably need to actually put my back into it now

thanks for the carry sunbae, enjoy dvc

[VOTE: Amy] aubergine

yo soy homosexual

i have no legacy because i have no chance of dying and nothing to prove

being ic is kinda nice actually

the lesson is "godreads don't exist"

no exceptions

and in that world the wolves let me get a track off for literally no reason

so i think that world just doesn't exist

i still think spf's reaction to the fake red on c4 is clearing unless the wolf kill was exactly c4 trying to kill vulgard

i once played a game where the vig (me) hit scum on n1 while simultaneously dying, the jk successfully blocked 3 of the next 5 nks, and town still lost

mafia is a bad game

i basically agree with zack

i apologize for not providing more words but other people have been doing all my solving for me

think i favor flipping vulgard before anything else

my reads have been ass all game you should iso sunbae's d3 posts instead

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 11:55 pm i can't tell if we're on the verge of winning or getting buried

the former imo

regardless of being right or wrong on vulgard i'm becoming more and more convinced that my townreads are just town

so if nothing else the PoE should be fine

i did not expect a serious answer to what definitely was not a serious question

also dya posting cat pics has literally nothing to do with their alignment here lmao

Syn wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 7:28 pm visor is being funny which is >rand mafia

@Arete how does this make you feel

Syn wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 4:03 pm i am afraid of what the bucket is for

my feelings

Syn wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 4:00 pm what up girl gamers

rabbit give nutella her account back

well that answers that i suppose

did chloe ever come back btw

i've not read the morning posts yet

i mean, i'm town and have brain worms, so

everyone in this PL is a competent wolf and a solid mechanical player

i don't want to let vulgard off the hook when the alternative scenario involves 3 such players collectively getting brain worms

(or involves visor being a wolf, which i rly just don't think is a thing that's happening here)

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:29 pm

Amy wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:25 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:24 pm Arete, I think it was you that asked

I think vulgard's been mostly v all game. I initially voted vulgard when sunbae outed info because it seemed very damning, then I thought about it more

I don't think it's as clear cut as sunbae is making it because I've seen wolves do stupid things before. they may have targeted vulgard tonight (possibly a PR read)

Marl could have tried to kill vulgard due to the fake claim

or

Vulgard could be a wolf

There are 2 scenarios where vulgard is a villa, so i voted the person I had just read an iso of and had concerns about instead

why do wolves not roleblock me in the v!vulgard scenarios

they may have been expecting you to be jked. they may have tried to roleblock the PR reads they had.

i feel like logically speaking this doesn't hold water

if they expect the jk to be on me that would theoretically occupy BOTH of our prs. it's not a reason to jk hunt with the roleblock so much as a reason to not need to roleblock at all

i feel like in a scenario where you have 3 wolves alive and no Super Obvious kill targets beyond me you're never SO scared of the jailkeeper that you risk me getting a track off solely to try to deny the possibility of a save

shrug, occam's razor suggests vulgard's just a wolf

if that winds up false, we can re-evaluate

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 3:24 pm Arete, I think it was you that asked

I think vulgard's been mostly v all game. I initially voted vulgard when sunbae outed info because it seemed very damning, then I thought about it more

I don't think it's as clear cut as sunbae is making it because I've seen wolves do stupid things before. they may have targeted vulgard tonight (possibly a PR read)

Marl could have tried to kill vulgard due to the fake claim

or

Vulgard could be a wolf

There are 2 scenarios where vulgard is a villa, so i voted the person I had just read an iso of and had concerns about instead

why do wolves not roleblock me in the v!vulgard scenarios

caught up

not sure what i think of things beyond "sunbae's just real"

Briefly entertaining a v!Vulgard v!Marl world: wolves would have to NK Vulgard AND not roleblock me. Wolf roleblocker would presumably perform the kill (i.e. it's not Dizzy).

Logic of "Marl's claim of a redcheck on c4 was known by wolves to be incorrect" holds; spf probably still clearable as a villager. I'm still unwilling to consider Zack/Visor/nutella; if that winds up being this game's f3 then lolme.

I... don't really know what to do with Chloe in the world where the FoL pile really is a pile of villagers. All the same riders remain on dya/c4's alignment. Really I'm not sure this scenario does a ton to actual reads except force people to consider them independent of any read on Vulgard, which is... probably a better look for Chloe? Maybe a worse look for dya.

...should I be reconsidering Arete in a v!Vulgard world? A wolf wouldn't shield a villager THIS hard, right? Like... Arete's entire gameplan would have to have been refuge in audacity, but I feel like going THIS hard on townshielding someone who otherwise might just get steamrolled as a much-needed exe feels... silly. Think I've talked myself into "Arete is just v" but I'm glad I at least thought about it.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 1:46 am There is a world where the wolves shot vulgard and didn't RB Amy but idk it's not optimal at all for wolves to do that lol

im not even thinking about this world until vulgard comes back

this reminds me of when i was a wolf in a mountainous game a few years back and smartbomb (a villager) literally selfvoted to prevent me from being voted out

granted it was a mountainous game so there were no mechanics involved

but still

if the team is chloe/vulgard/dya then nobody should ever listen to my reads ever again lmao

i think dya has largely been busy today tbf

zack ill talk about chloe more after i eat but the short version is their d2 opening felt very "thank god i subbed into a town slot"

tbh i feel like v!c4 should have doubted the claim? since I'd already outlined that the jk's target was essentially a redcheck

so maybe he's just a wolf lol

does vulgard try to hardbus c4 like that?

thats the main thing holding me back

in light of c4 not having carried i think spf's reaction is just town

zack visor probably also just town

sunbae probably real, vulgard wolf, marl locktown

remaining in c4/dya/arete/chloe/dizzy/nutella

and i still think nutella/chloe are v v unlikely (tho vulgard flip sours me on chloe a bit)

i like sunbae's theory because it might entice another wolf into trying to cc and giving us yet another freebje