The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:55 pm I want to tell the people who I think are wolves but Idk

if you are a villager, why wont you?

you could die here

why is syn questioning the LP wagon AGAIN?

like today there's a very good reason to wolfread LP

ok so jack urist can both be telling the truth because it was a host error most likely?

idk what to make of urist/jack

i've already done my part tsp

i still think it's LP. the lie doesnt make much sense. And it's not like she had reason to think that she wouldnt be blocked - she's been decently scum read most of the game

She just keeps trying to thunderdome me for it even though she admitted I was right

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:45 pm today's stupid wish is that Dya and Sig swoop in and solve the game but that's like never gonna happen

I've lready been here and blew up LP's lie

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:54 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:51 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:49 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:45 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:41 pm LP getting caught in a lie as mafia and claiming they didn't get caught in a lie... Not sure where I've seen that before, but it rhymes with glock... Which incidentally, is a fitting solution to the problem, I think.
I think if wolf LP had her action not go through she'd claim it rather than claim an even worse action on sig at this point. Also thinking about it it gives an excuse for no actioning the next day to.

Like, LP not actually going to sig and having lied about it makes her distinctly more towny.

I wouldn't put it past her to make up a fake action, but come on, Sig? Unless she's specifically aimming for a Sig ML on Day Four... which could be a world but I think that if Sig is town and we ML today scum has basically won at that point, or it's LYLO, one or the other
wait...what?

LP lied about visiting Sig?
yeah Dya blocked her
and confirmed she got CP and therefore her action went through? @dyachei ?

Cause if Dya catches LP in a lie, there's no reason to yeet anyone but LP or Dya today imo.

yes, i got CP, yes it was successful. LP lied about visiting/tracking sig.

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:43 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:41 pm because you cant use level 3 and level 4 consecutively

if my action failed i could have had no usable abilities
OK, but you roleblocked me so that I couldn't use the Lv3 Druid ability and would have to wait 2 nights before I could track again.
This is objectively an antitown action even if you assume that you're paranoia about missing is valid, which it shouldn't be if you are Town.

that requires me to believe that you're actually a druid

because you cant use level 3 and level 4 consecutively

if my action failed i could have had no usable abilities

LinearPoint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:33 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:31 pm Because level 3 is bad
Wrong
Dya being Level 2 willingly is very suspicious.
Level 2 palading can only block actions while level 3 blocks kills.

Dya knew I was a level 3 Druid since I claimed that yesterday.
So why would Town!Dya block a Tracker and not try over trying to stop the Factional Kill or any of the Warrior attacks?
Level 2 is quite a suspicious thing to choose for Town and be targeting non Warriors.

because i didnt believe you and you are one of my wolf reads

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:31 pm Because level 3 is bad

this

level 2

i dont get why a sig peek would encourage the wolves to kill you

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:06 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 1:04 pm scotty i blocked you n1
Cool thanks for that

you didnt start acting villa until d2

scotty i blocked you n1

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:52 pm dya this is gonna sound patronizing but can you check and confirm that your action succeeded and you got a CP etc

yup got a cp

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:50 pm Also you shouldn’t have claimed it before forcing LP to clarify their actions

she had already clarified her actions in thread

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:49 pm Ok dya to br clear technically your CC doesn’t make sense and you should check it for details

what doesn't make sense? she shouldnt be waiting for results, she should have been told her action failed

I'm not unvoting someone who's lying about their night actions

[VOTE: lp] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:43 am I don’t think scum LP comes out of the gate today claiming Druid Lev 2 actions. I believe she used those how she used those.

Mafia aren’t picking Druid class

I think scum LP does just that because I blocked them yesterday and they're full of shit

becuse people often find excuses to continue wolf reading the people they wolf read, jack

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:45 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:38 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:28 pm i mean i think your pre-flip world is wolfy. and i think it allows you to line up elims.
How? Because if Dunya is a townie, nothing I've "lined up" does anything at all, does it?
it all depends on how it changes your reads, if it does
Then how can you say it's wolfy? Why wouldn't my reads (made up or not) change if they're all based on something that is proven to be incorrect?

because it looks like you're trying to set stuff up right now and you've done NO re-evaluating while people are alive

[VOTE: naa] aubergine

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:28 pm i mean i think your pre-flip world is wolfy. and i think it allows you to line up elims.
How? Because if Dunya is a townie, nothing I've "lined up" does anything at all, does it?

it all depends on how it changes your reads, if it does

i mean i think your pre-flip world is wolfy. and i think it allows you to line up elims. i guess i'll have to see how it changes to see how wolfy it actually is but so far, you're using it to push people i think are villa

jack i dont like that you're living in a pre-flip world where you apparently have everything figured out. what happens if you're wrong here? how does that change your reads?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:08 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:05 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:04 pm i am a bit concerned dya's town reads haven't progressed or shifted at all despite the thread changing a lot. but i am harping on that. dya has made some Super Innocent Child sounding posts and i will stop tinfoiling now.
tbf, I'm concerned about that, too

scotty is trending that way though
Trending towards super innocent child sounding posts?

trending towards town. I had you as a wolf earlier. now I have you as null!

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:06 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:01 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:00 pm dya, why is hk a top townread for you?
meta

I've played with him as both alignments and think he's actually trying to solve here. He isn't just parroting people on their reads, he's not afraid to have his own opinions

he isnt really forcing through his reads, either, compared to a lot of people in the thread
from my perspective he's changed his reads based on thread state pretty frequently

he immediately switched to dunia after shielding her all game after I teamed him with her

mqybe i missed that one? but he still generally isnt doing that imo

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:04 pm i am a bit concerned dya's town reads haven't progressed or shifted at all despite the thread changing a lot. but i am harping on that. dya has made some Super Innocent Child sounding posts and i will stop tinfoiling now.

tbf, I'm concerned about that, too

scotty is trending that way though

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:00 pm dya, why is hk a top townread for you?

meta

I've played with him as both alignments and think he's actually trying to solve here. He isn't just parroting people on their reads, he's not afraid to have his own opinions

he isnt really forcing through his reads, either, compared to a lot of people in the thread

if you read my posts, I've talked about them

Town
Marmot
syn
hk

town lean
dolby

null
dunya
urist
sig
scotty
wilgy
tsp

wolf lean
lp
rask
jack
naa

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:39 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:38 pm Also, I’d like to hear why everybody who has voted LP thinks LP is scummy.

Admittedly, I normally lock LP in as town (or so obvious town, she must die) very quickly (like 2/2 games we’ve played together). I haven’t done that here. But she’s also the popular CW to the player I want yeeted and nobody has said (that I’ve read) a reason to scumread her that is even marginally compelling.
Like to the pint that it makes me slightly suspicious of Dya and HK.

i had lp as wolfy since d1. i think my other wolf read looks better now and no one was serious in their votes of naa (my preferred wagon)

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:37 pm I think anyone between LP/Dunya/Wigley could go over with how the threads been posting. I don't think it's dunya specific today at all

i disagree. ppl like scotty have voted off lp but stated they prefer lp to go over

feels pretty set to me

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:34 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:28 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:22 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:18 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:42 pm saving dunya tbh
Talk to me about Dunya then
this was a joke
Can you do it anyway?
dunya is kind of sitting in the null to maybe slightly town pile for me. She's not the same dunya as in CoV. Where we mindmelded a lot and owned the thread. But she's also not being all that wolfy to me. the things that people are calling wolfy are things that I think villagers also do.
For the record, have you read her posts wrt Scotty and vice versa? Because all other things the two of them have done that can be considered scummy or townie, I think the way they’ve treated each other looks VERY w/w and I’ve seen Tony and Syn point out similar things. So I wanna get your take on that specifically.

i dont think teyre damning tbh

dya: brings up dunya might be limmed, gets laughed at because that wont happen

also dya: notes ppl want only lp deead, gets told thats false

cant have it both ways, boyos

ppl have vitewd elsewhere tating theyd rather lp die

Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:32 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:31 pm and despite putting ppl at l-2 all day, thread has clearly stated intentions to elim only lp
this is objectively false

it really isnt

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:31 pm I spent like 15 minutes thinking through what I wanted to say about you and am on my phone dya. Drop the passive-aggro plz

nothing passive about it

and despite putting ppl at l-2 all day, thread has clearly stated intentions to elim only lp

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:28 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:12 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:12 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:10 pm Not only is there no dead air but there hasn’t been a consistent top wagon for more than 20 minutes
at the risk of being shouted down again, it's pretty well known that the wagon is LP and people aren't doing much. So yes, it feels kind of DADV right now

I dont expect you to agree, we seem to be playing different games than each other
marmot thinks you’re joking are you joking
I missed this dya explanation earlier.

I disagree with it.

I also think that dya doesn't fully grasp the thread state, but they also are making confident assertions about it which I find confusing.

There is this post about dadv when we've put 4 different players at L-2 today.

There was their post about thread consensus wanting to elim them when it was two players pushing for it.

They also offered a read on dunia that, in my summation, said that dya thinks this this dunia is nothing like CoV dunia, but that this dunia might not be scummy, but dya wasn't there on town dunia yet. Dya later said they will vote to save dunia (a not confirned townread)

I'm leaning towards this being wolfy behavior, because it feels agendaey, I'm curious to hear other reads on dya

I forgot the rules of mafia state that only dya is not allowed to make jokes regarding saving someone or wolfreading someone. my bad.

maybe read the posts immediately prior to this

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:22 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:18 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:42 pm saving dunya tbh
Talk to me about Dunya then
this was a joke
Can you do it anyway?

dunya is kind of sitting in the null to maybe slightly town pile for me. She's not the same dunya as in CoV. Where we mindmelded a lot and owned the thread. But she's also not being all that wolfy to me. the things that people are calling wolfy are things that I think villagers also do.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:18 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:42 pm saving dunya tbh
Talk to me about Dunya then

this was a joke

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:53 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:36 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:34 pm @Urist Above post is the answer to your question, just reviewed Scotty.
k, i think i know what the tell is anyway
yeah, same. Glad y’all finally picked up on it

if you know about a tell, it's no longer accurate tbh

Syn wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:52 pmlife is pain

life is bread?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:43 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:43 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:42 pm can we anti-save dunya
I'm game to vote you
you're always game to vote me

stop being so yeetable then

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 4:42 pm can we anti-save dunya

I'm game to vote you

saving dunya tbh

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