The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:13 am
Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:05 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.
Why would I care about golden
Because I’m a nice person really
In all seriousness, though, Urist, so far based on the flips I’m not seeing a mafia team that would look at me and say ‘we need to worry about that guy’ so I don’t dislike your response here. My initial reaction to your posting towards me remains true now… it was an indication that you didn’t know me more than anything else.

Yeah fair, my read on you has improved since Alison flipped mafia. Need to double-check that stuff tho

Golden wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:05 am
Urist wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:03 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.
Why would I care about golden
Because I’m a nice person really

I mean yeah that seems to be true, but mac saying I would specifically sabotage you is weird

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:11 am I have now read Alison's treatment of the POE (I forgot I had already taken SVS out and read her too).

MR
Scotty
Guillo
Lilypetal
Dizzy

I believe that Dizzy and Scotty are not mafia with Alison.

Lilypetal and MR remain viable, Guillo has a mixed bag of interactions with her, but also finds theatre much easier so what might positive interactions for others don't get him points.

So my POE is now 3.

I wish to put Urist back in it, because I have a sense that Urist and Alison may have been operating in concert on day 1 against Golden to unsettle him and prevent him from getting a foothold in the game.

My POE is now.

Guillo
Lilypetal
Urist
MR

in that order.

I need 1 more.

Why would I care about golden

I'm also sick and my sleep schedule is all fucked up please pity me

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:53 am It snowed a foot here

Wow that's pretty horrific, do you know if they've found the rest of the body?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:15 am Party Crasher
Lilypetal
Urist
Dyslexicon
Scotty
MR
SVS

I wish to arbitrarily remove party crasher out of this. So I am.

Removed.

Lilypetal
Urist
Dyslexicon
Scotty
MR
SVS

Tell me family, who do you wish to arbitrarily remove from it?

Scotto, SVS, MR, Dyslexicon ... Lily.

I think I wanna arbitrarily remove Urist from it. I do have a pretty strong gut townread.

Removed.

Lilypetal
Dyslexicon
Scotty
MR
SVS

Behold, today's POE. Similar but different to yesterday's POE. Let's solve these 5 first.

LGTM

Ok well I'm catching up gosh

Catching up.
@DrWilgy please do not shoot rondo, I am fairly certain that he is town.

Let me guess, neon killed Alison and creature

I wish I had beans

Oh so it's not me sweet

Did you mark somebody Lily?

Damn I was just telling my scum chat that Alison looked bad

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:02 pm SVS is probably always derp cleared for thinking Neon killed Dennis. I would never vote there.

@S~V~S Neon killed Sabi. The wolf. I killed Dennis.

It's only a derp clear if either you or neon is mafia. If she's mafia I'm not sure why she should know or care which townie killed which other townie

@S~V~S please move your vote to someone who has a chance of being killed this phase

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Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:05 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:00 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:46 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:44 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:36 pm Let the record show that Creature has now claimed I'm a wolf for "fighting off people in the thread instead of having a POE list like I usually do in my town games.

@Golden @nutella @everyone else
I have thought creature was wolf all along. He’s in a tunnel on me and his entire rationale is to quote LPP from time to time as though it’s a super-important and valuable insight.
Do wolves ever kill Rask if their reads are just plain wrong?
Actually where does Rask play and with whom in this game? I'm not a huge fan of NKA, but it is a choice for a kill for sure
I assume wolves are likelier to kill players who are more dangerous to them early. Let it sink that wolves killed lucy, Rask and likely TSP too.
are you alleging that neon is mafia? because i can get behind that allegation
The only way that’s the case is if neon wanted to kill sabi for cred. Which I guess is possible if sabi wanted out.

No one cc’d that shot

lily did

anyway, Golden Neon Creature is both my fantasy scumteam and the name of my new band

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:02 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:00 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:46 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:44 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:36 pm Let the record show that Creature has now claimed I'm a wolf for "fighting off people in the thread instead of having a POE list like I usually do in my town games.

@Golden @nutella @everyone else
I have thought creature was wolf all along. He’s in a tunnel on me and his entire rationale is to quote LPP from time to time as though it’s a super-important and valuable insight.
Do wolves ever kill Rask if their reads are just plain wrong?
Actually where does Rask play and with whom in this game? I'm not a huge fan of NKA, but it is a choice for a kill for sure
I assume wolves are likelier to kill players who are more dangerous to them early. Let it sink that wolves killed lucy, Rask and likely TSP too.
are you alleging that neon is mafia? because i can get behind that allegation
This is not something I am interested in talking about today?

you're saying that tsp was killed by mafia. neon claimed the kill on tsp. so yea you're already talking about it.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:48 pm
Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:46 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:44 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:42 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:36 pm Let the record show that Creature has now claimed I'm a wolf for "fighting off people in the thread instead of having a POE list like I usually do in my town games.

@Golden @nutella @everyone else
I have thought creature was wolf all along. He’s in a tunnel on me and his entire rationale is to quote LPP from time to time as though it’s a super-important and valuable insight.
Do wolves ever kill Rask if their reads are just plain wrong?
Actually where does Rask play and with whom in this game? I'm not a huge fan of NKA, but it is a choice for a kill for sure
I assume wolves are likelier to kill players who are more dangerous to them early. Let it sink that wolves killed lucy, Rask and likely TSP too.

are you alleging that neon is mafia? because i can get behind that allegation

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:46 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:40 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:34 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:08 pm If this wagon is a hit then I'm certain that at least one of the voters is mafia:

RondoDimBuckle
Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
I'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?

And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?

Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
no it was just a bad joke to call attention to the fact that rondo is self-voting for some reason.
You don't then think there would be a bus on Rondo? Why not?

Do you feel you've been hunting this RD? Cuz yer bad joke is the kind of awkward thing Maf do when bussing a teammate IMO
While it's possible that Rondo is being bussed, it would be weird considering there are other viable options on the table. Unless of course the other viable options are also mafia.
It doesn't take that long for me to decide my vote and PoE for the day, I read sabi's iso and decided that Rondo looked the worst from it. I think you've played with me enough times to know that I'm highly annoying and make terrible jokes as either alignment.
Can you show me specifics? I cant refute *gestures at innuendo and suggestion*

whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? jeez luiz

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:40 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:08 pm If this wagon is a hit then I'm certain that at least one of the voters is mafia:

RondoDimBuckle
Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
I'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?

And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?

Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
I would like to note that Urist has moved off me after I called him the wolf on my wagon.

no you definitely called me the wolf on your wagon AFTER i voted for SVS

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:31 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:30 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:29 pm I'm awake but I sure as fuck ain't alive
mood
(is that still a thing with the kids these days?)
Yes

tight

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:29 pm Oh I already got three notifications

Hold on I'm ISOing a dead town

bit late in the day for that bucko

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:29 pm I'm awake but I sure as fuck ain't alive

mood
(is that still a thing with the kids these days?)

let the record show that i tried to work with golden but he decided he didn't want to vote with me on SVS

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@Dyslexicon I spoke on the sig-sabi fake derp thing earlier. I think that it's possible for the interaction to be orchestrated, but unlikely. I doubt that sig could really think that sabi is sabie if they're in discord together. And if it's a fake derp, it makes little sense for sabi herself to point it out and throw suspicion on sig for it.
All in all I think it's more likely that sabi was just looking for a contrived reason to suspect sig.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:40 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:08 pm If this wagon is a hit then I'm certain that at least one of the voters is mafia:

RondoDimBuckle
Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
You or seanzie imho

are you really speculating on people who might be bussing you, given that you flip mafia?

yeah ok sure, but only because it'll bother mac

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:48 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:29 pm Oh lol I just realized [scummy townie 1] and [scummy townie 2] are on [my partner's] wagon.

Not voting with those two if I can help it. [scummy townie 3] it is.

this is not generally indicative of my read on the game atm, i just don't like when people use alison's excuse to not vote on a wagon.

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:29 pm Oh lol I just realized [scummy townie 1] and [scummy townie 2] are on [my partner's] wagon.

Not voting with those two if I can help it. [scummy townie 3] it is.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:12 pm ICHI NI SAN NYAAAAAAAAAAN

ARIGATO NYAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN

oh good to see syn is finally posting

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nutella wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:43 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:41 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:16 am I probably haven't been living up to my job title lately haha.
I’m definitely not living up to mine.

I don’t even know anyone named Jeff

this is amazing

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:34 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:29 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:08 pm If this wagon is a hit then I'm certain that at least one of the voters is mafia:

RondoDimBuckle
Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
I'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?

And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?

Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?
no it was just a bad joke to call attention to the fact that rondo is self-voting for some reason.
You don't then think there would be a bus on Rondo? Why not?

Do you feel you've been hunting this RD? Cuz yer bad joke is the kind of awkward thing Maf do when bussing a teammate IMO

While it's possible that Rondo is being bussed, it would be weird considering there are other viable options on the table. Unless of course the other viable options are also mafia.
It doesn't take that long for me to decide my vote and PoE for the day, I read sabi's iso and decided that Rondo looked the worst from it. I think you've played with me enough times to know that I'm highly annoying and make terrible jokes as either alignment.

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falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:26 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:08 pm If this wagon is a hit then I'm certain that at least one of the voters is mafia:

RondoDimBuckle
Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
I'm gonna assume you mean outside of the very very towny vote for yourself Rondo?

And since I doubt you're calling yourself Maf, why not narrow this down a tad?

Sloonei, falcon, Ender, Sean has a wolf if Rondo is a wolf? Who'd be your guess?

no it was just a bad joke to call attention to the fact that rondo is self-voting for some reason.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:11 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:08 pm If this wagon is a hit then I'm certain that at least one of the voters is mafia:

RondoDimBuckle
Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin
My money would be on rondo, tbh

That's certainly a possibility

If this wagon is a hit then I'm certain that at least one of the voters is mafia:

RondoDimBuckle
Voters: Sloonei, falcon45ca, Urist, Seanzie, RondoDimBuckle, EnderWiggin

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:00 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:42 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:56 am @Golden @Urist the dynamic between you bothers me. Urist has been suspicious vocally all day long. Yesterday Golden was suspicious of Urist too at least at one stage. Yet Urist doesn't really seem to be attempting to progress his read. It's just there, he brings it up whenever someone gives him the opportunity to, but no persuading occurs... hes making no effort to reevaluate it either, despite Golden playing extremely actively. No wavering. It's just this ever present never changing read Urist cares about but not enough to actually cause any waves for?

And in response Golden more or less is just ignorant of it. No irritation. No omgus. Urist isn't in his POE and he's just letting Urist fly.

This dynamic trouble's me. It's not playing out like a town/town conflict would. On either side honestly.
There's not much for me to do. I think that golden is obvious mafia. Rask did too, but he's dead now. Apparently a ton of people suspected golden yesterday, but none of them were interested in pursuing that lead today. What am I supposed to do when a bunch of people say that golden is mafia, but don't vote for him? At this point it's clear that he's not going over today so I'm focusing on other viable wagons and trying not to be a distraction.
You don’t know me
Rask doesn’t know me
Alison doesn’t know me
Creature doesn’t know me
Guillo doesn’t know me

What’s absent from this picture is people who actually know me who think I’m wolf. Why do you ignore this consistently?

I don't tend to put a ton of faith in other peoples' meta reads, especially when there are conflicts (some people are saying golden is obvtown, mac says golden is an amazing wolf and hard to catch, etc).

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:56 am @Golden @Urist the dynamic between you bothers me. Urist has been suspicious vocally all day long. Yesterday Golden was suspicious of Urist too at least at one stage. Yet Urist doesn't really seem to be attempting to progress his read. It's just there, he brings it up whenever someone gives him the opportunity to, but no persuading occurs... hes making no effort to reevaluate it either, despite Golden playing extremely actively. No wavering. It's just this ever present never changing read Urist cares about but not enough to actually cause any waves for?

And in response Golden more or less is just ignorant of it. No irritation. No omgus. Urist isn't in his POE and he's just letting Urist fly.

This dynamic trouble's me. It's not playing out like a town/town conflict would. On either side honestly.

There's not much for me to do. I think that golden is obvious mafia. Rask did too, but he's dead now. Apparently a ton of people suspected golden yesterday, but none of them were interested in pursuing that lead today. What am I supposed to do when a bunch of people say that golden is mafia, but don't vote for him? At this point it's clear that he's not going over today so I'm focusing on other viable wagons and trying not to be a distraction.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:52 am I might shoot Golden.

I would pay you good money to do this

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:48 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:22 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:27 pm What's the difference between a cat and a comma?
A comma separates independent and dependent clauses, whereas a cat separates your skin from your face with its clawses
You got it exactly right! This earns you a one-night-onlu immunity from Seanzie!Vig.

Another answer I would have accepted is [redacted].

This is an amazing prize that I accept with humility and grace. But I gotta say, if this gets you dates then you must follow rules 1 & 2 pretty closely.

As a vanilla townie, I have no fear of being blocked.

Upon reviewing the first two pages of sabi's iso, I should say.

Upon reviewing sabi's iso I think that marmot is more likely to be town and rondo is more likely to be mafia
It's so strange how looking through anyone's iso just tends to confirm my existing beliefs, I wonder if there's a name for that phenomenon

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:43 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:43 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:42 pm Why is neon being mean to me this game :/
trying to soft defend me
Neon / Rondo never aligned

Lol

Marmot exe is lacklustre. Rask had marmot as his top town, why would mafia kill someone who reads them as top town? Rask baaaarely pushed Sabi (at least, he didn't push Sabi more than I or mac did), so I doubt that's the reason.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:27 pm What's the difference between a cat and a comma?

A comma separates independent and dependent clauses, whereas a cat separates your skin from your face with its clawses

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