Partly timing. A lot of people have been saying there is a LOT of town PR, and along comes Wilgy and claims that when he DOESN'T hit his qualifier he gets a watcher. Sure it's randomly targeted, and sure the one time he got it he landed in the one place where we already had the available info, but it's still the most powerful role on our little already overpowered planet.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:50 amTim he didn't say indeed, he said likely fwiw.
Anyway he's in the POE and if other people wanna have the gavel today and decide on Wilgy over going for people who haven't claimed I'm not gonna fight it too much.
It's a bit weird how much you fought to keep Nutella and JPIC alive because they'd claimed and we could auto resolve them but you're pushing on him. JPIC for instance was far far far more likely mafia than Wilgy is here, with a way worse claim and way worse play. Yet here you're wanting to chop him for not thinking hard enough (in a game in which he's admittedly and demonstrably lost the plot entirely) and with JPIC you just wanted to go with an auto resolve plan.
Why?
Partly because I never really agreed that JPICs claim was that awful. I know you are baffled that anyone could have doubted you were town, and that you trumpeted that so hard that no one wanted to say "well, yeah, I can see that maybe," but without that aspect it wasn't so awful. And it was just based on a bad decision by JPIC. "I made a bad decision, bite me" always seems more believable to me than "I tracked someone else doing something crazy." And without question Wilgy is claiming to have tracked JPIC doing something crazy. JPIC got caught by a watcher and made up a claim on the fly that you found ridiculous, but no one has suggested given that he was caught that there was a really brilliant answer to give. So the leap of "made a bad claim, so sure maybe he post caps Tutuu and then fakes a red check might fit a pattern of stupidity. Wilgy's claim relies on JPIC doing something that would be just senseless...not on the spot when caught, but with all night to plan his action.
Partly because I don't see what you see. Wilgy made a throwaway vote on Nutella and got caught with it there. That's not "pushing a partner." JPICs play was slacker awful with a taste of troll. Wilgy isn't trolly, but from a chasing wolves standpoint he's no better.
But mostly because I don't think he needed to think hard there. The glaring contradiction was right there in front of him. No looking back required. No reading required beyond the post right in front of him. Someone who wasn't even playing could look at that post and say "WTF?" A tracker tracked the known postcapper to Tutuu and Tutuu isn't postcapped. Huh. If you just took that post completely out of context and showed it to players they would universally say "lol, what was going on there?"
Now, here's a problem. I said i wouldn't fight you, and now clearly I am. You of course are already in "how dare you, must be a wolf" mode...which is fine, I get that a lot. But I am just answering your questions. My intention was, and remains, to just vote and let it lie.
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