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by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:12 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:06 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:00 am
Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:53 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:42 am
Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:30 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:21 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:13 am So your position is that Seanzie is a wolf?
My position is that seanzie is worth looking into because he more or less said he wasn't going to do any interaction with me

by not doing that after my passive-aggressive post that implicitly referred to him
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:27 pm This looks like a great way to generate discussion!
Also: I don't think anyone can be certainly wolf. No one can figure that out in 100 posts, at least in my personal experience.

What needs to happen is more things and more interactions. I've been trying to do that that with my earlier posts.

Last town game I had on another site, I lost to a wolf because there wasn't enough posts in the game. if there had been more posts that game, I would've been able to figure out who was more likely to be the wolf partner there, instead of just relying on my world-building bias. Admittedly though, it was only 300ish posts because it was a light-ish game, but I want to get the ball rolling this game just so we avoid the scenario of finding out there was too little to go on too late.
Where did I say I'm not going to have interactions with you? Like what?
all you gave was the "why vote me" dealio.....which then quickly got turned into that "I think Martin had something to prove" statement without giving me time to respond to your question

seems to me you had your read regardless of any interactions with me and were planning to stick with it, especially with "I think everyone should vote martin" emphasis post
What would you have responded, in that moment?

I wanted to see what you'd do with a bit a pressure on you, and explained why I am wary of you when asked. I do have a read on you regardless of any interactions, but that read updates every interaction we have.
it probably would've been some mix of stating concern over your decision to vote me and then emphasizing the need for posts

probably not any passive-aggressiveness in it though because at that point I would have yet to figure if this was how our interactions were going to end up being (and also you decided to interact instead of going hmmm or whatever vagueness again; you were being direct)
Would my vote have been anything other than RVS to you at that point?
I thought it a less likely to be RVS since it was practically the vote alone without anything attached.

Which made me concerned since you know me and I would figure that maybe you could add something onto that to interact with me more. In my experience, votes without anything attached are votes that typically generate the least amount of AI stuff because reactions to them are almost always very straight-forward.

If you're asking what I think of it, at the point of you asking me why I voted you, then that's when I would start considering it more in either direction depending on our interactions.
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:06 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

I think Rondo is very likely town, or at least townier than everyone else here.

Don't think wolves shade both of us, and regardless of whether he's right on Linear I think his posts on it look towny.

Also feels a bit excited.
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:00 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:53 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:42 am
Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:30 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:21 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:13 am So your position is that Seanzie is a wolf?
My position is that seanzie is worth looking into because he more or less said he wasn't going to do any interaction with me

by not doing that after my passive-aggressive post that implicitly referred to him
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:27 pm This looks like a great way to generate discussion!
Also: I don't think anyone can be certainly wolf. No one can figure that out in 100 posts, at least in my personal experience.

What needs to happen is more things and more interactions. I've been trying to do that that with my earlier posts.

Last town game I had on another site, I lost to a wolf because there wasn't enough posts in the game. if there had been more posts that game, I would've been able to figure out who was more likely to be the wolf partner there, instead of just relying on my world-building bias. Admittedly though, it was only 300ish posts because it was a light-ish game, but I want to get the ball rolling this game just so we avoid the scenario of finding out there was too little to go on too late.
Where did I say I'm not going to have interactions with you? Like what?
all you gave was the "why vote me" dealio.....which then quickly got turned into that "I think Martin had something to prove" statement without giving me time to respond to your question

seems to me you had your read regardless of any interactions with me and were planning to stick with it, especially with "I think everyone should vote martin" emphasis post
What would you have responded, in that moment?

I wanted to see what you'd do with a bit a pressure on you, and explained why I am wary of you when asked. I do have a read on you regardless of any interactions, but that read updates every interaction we have.
it probably would've been some mix of stating concern over your decision to vote me and then emphasizing the need for posts

probably not any passive-aggressiveness in it though because at that point I would have yet to figure if this was how our interactions were going to end up being (and also you decided to interact instead of going hmmm or whatever vagueness again; you were being direct)
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:46 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

Stupid Sexy Flanders wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:44 am Gonna assume you'll be reanimated after your flip, and if we're all wrong you get to come back and be all like "I told you so", if you're town.
why in the world would they reanimate a citizen over a PR

gotta assume they have limited reanimations otherwise you couldn't mischop town at all
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:45 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:42 am especially with "I think everyone should vote martin" emphasis post
I misremembered its wording, its mentioned here
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:15 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:08 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:00 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm Y'all should vote Martin.

Why martin? ;)
His take on Flanders didn't really seem like "let me pull us out of fluff" and instead felt like he was coming in too hot to a game that wasn't hot yet. Like he had something to prove.

Do you think that is AI?

Part of why I ask is that I remember a scenario where Dizzy suspected you for a very similar thing (It was the Mad 17er setup) in a game on MU last year, and you were town in that scenario (and he was a wolf).
I remember the game (it was on MafC, not MU, but whatever), and I do see how you could draw a parallel, but I still think you should vote Martin.
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:42 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:30 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:21 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:13 am So your position is that Seanzie is a wolf?
My position is that seanzie is worth looking into because he more or less said he wasn't going to do any interaction with me

by not doing that after my passive-aggressive post that implicitly referred to him
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:27 pm This looks like a great way to generate discussion!
Also: I don't think anyone can be certainly wolf. No one can figure that out in 100 posts, at least in my personal experience.

What needs to happen is more things and more interactions. I've been trying to do that that with my earlier posts.

Last town game I had on another site, I lost to a wolf because there wasn't enough posts in the game. if there had been more posts that game, I would've been able to figure out who was more likely to be the wolf partner there, instead of just relying on my world-building bias. Admittedly though, it was only 300ish posts because it was a light-ish game, but I want to get the ball rolling this game just so we avoid the scenario of finding out there was too little to go on too late.
Where did I say I'm not going to have interactions with you? Like what?
all you gave was the "why vote me" dealio.....which then quickly got turned into that "I think Martin had something to prove" statement without giving me time to respond to your question

seems to me you had your read regardless of any interactions with me and were planning to stick with it, especially with "I think everyone should vote martin" emphasis post
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:38 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:25 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:21 am
Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:20 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:09 am
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:00 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm Y'all should vote Martin.

Why martin? ;)
His take on Flanders didn't really seem like "let me pull us out of fluff" and instead felt like he was coming in too hot to a game that wasn't hot yet. Like he had something to prove.
And what agenda would that be?

Seems a bit too early for wolves to be having agendas imo, especially in a game where not much has happened at that point

So either you're going off what's best a poor suspicion on a player that (I hope) you have some level of respect for

and are just chopping them without further interaction/investigation to see if there's any chance you're wrong

oooooor the non-town explanation here and just adding vague substance to your push to validate it while getting rid of a player who may be relatively dangerous in the future
You seem oddly worried about being chopped considering we aren't even halfway through D1.
yes I am

because I have quite a few games with you seanzie and your choice is to chop me out of all people in a game with so few posts
Oooor... you're a wolf who bit too hard on early pressure.
well then I would very much like to make you regret d1 chopping me somehow because quite frankly I find d1 chops of people I know / could more confident solve to be suboptimal, and in absence of any significant content in the game, a really stupid choice

I currently got no ideas as to how I would make you regret that though, outside of "oh no martin was town"
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:25 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

that and just generate discussion
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:25 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:24 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:21 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:13 am So your position is that Seanzie is a wolf?
My position is that seanzie is worth looking into because he more or less said he wasn't going to do any interaction with me

by not doing that after my passive-aggressive post that implicitly referred to him
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:27 pm This looks like a great way to generate discussion!
Also: I don't think anyone can be certainly wolf. No one can figure that out in 100 posts, at least in my personal experience.

What needs to happen is more things and more interactions. I've been trying to do that that with my earlier posts.

Last town game I had on another site, I lost to a wolf because there wasn't enough posts in the game. if there had been more posts that game, I would've been able to figure out who was more likely to be the wolf partner there, instead of just relying on my world-building bias. Admittedly though, it was only 300ish posts because it was a light-ish game, but I want to get the ball rolling this game just so we avoid the scenario of finding out there was too little to go on too late.
so do you have any reads? top 3 town top 3 wolves?
dude, I'm trying to get reads

did you not read anything I've been trying to say
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:22 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

much less even interact with me earlier
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:21 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

Seanzie wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:20 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:09 am
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:00 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm Y'all should vote Martin.

Why martin? ;)
His take on Flanders didn't really seem like "let me pull us out of fluff" and instead felt like he was coming in too hot to a game that wasn't hot yet. Like he had something to prove.
And what agenda would that be?

Seems a bit too early for wolves to be having agendas imo, especially in a game where not much has happened at that point

So either you're going off what's best a poor suspicion on a player that (I hope) you have some level of respect for

and are just chopping them without further interaction/investigation to see if there's any chance you're wrong

oooooor the non-town explanation here and just adding vague substance to your push to validate it while getting rid of a player who may be relatively dangerous in the future
You seem oddly worried about being chopped considering we aren't even halfway through D1.
yes I am

because I have quite a few games with you seanzie and your choice is to chop me out of all people in a game with so few posts
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:21 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:13 am So your position is that Seanzie is a wolf?
My position is that seanzie is worth looking into because he more or less said he wasn't going to do any interaction with me

by not doing that after my passive-aggressive post that implicitly referred to him
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:27 pm This looks like a great way to generate discussion!
Also: I don't think anyone can be certainly wolf. No one can figure that out in 100 posts, at least in my personal experience.

What needs to happen is more things and more interactions. I've been trying to do that that with my earlier posts.

Last town game I had on another site, I lost to a wolf because there wasn't enough posts in the game. if there had been more posts that game, I would've been able to figure out who was more likely to be the wolf partner there, instead of just relying on my world-building bias. Admittedly though, it was only 300ish posts because it was a light-ish game, but I want to get the ball rolling this game just so we avoid the scenario of finding out there was too little to go on too late.
by MartinGG99
Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:09 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:00 pm
Marmot wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:57 pm Y'all should vote Martin.

Why martin? ;)
His take on Flanders didn't really seem like "let me pull us out of fluff" and instead felt like he was coming in too hot to a game that wasn't hot yet. Like he had something to prove.
And what agenda would that be?

Seems a bit too early for wolves to be having agendas imo, especially in a game where not much has happened at that point

So either you're going off what's best a poor suspicion on a player that (I hope) you have some level of respect for

and are just chopping them without further interaction/investigation to see if there's any chance you're wrong

oooooor the non-town explanation here and just adding vague substance to your push to validate it while getting rid of a player who may be relatively dangerous in the future
by MartinGG99
Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:30 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

LinearPoint wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 1:15 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:59 am decided to actually put thought into this

I doubt there's resurrections that change alignment unless that's, like, the only power that exists for the team that is doing the resurrection + change

or if there's in-game countermeasures that I don't know about

there may have been such a thing before this setup was down-sized but with a smaller player base I think resurrects + alignment changes are just too powerful and swingy since the proportional effect of changing one slot is much higher
That's pretty much what I thought when I saw it. I figure it's just a just in case thing and is probably only going to be tied to a role changing it's own alignment on revival, kind of like the old Judas thing.

I honestly would not be surprised if that's in the game since the role is basically themed for this style of game and I consider it pretty well known.

I think the best way to treat the possibility of alignment changing upon being revived is to just treat those revived as if they are not the same slot/role/alignment that was prior to death unless someone actually claims the mechanic that lead to their revival in which case they would be judged based on if that is believable or not.

It might not be likely that a lot of people would be changing alignments, but it would be the safer approach.
Well if they really don't die ("flip") then I'll be more likely to believe it as it doesn't confirm anything about them

If they do flip I think its more likely that their alignment doesn't change as having a mafia who once flipped green, in even a game where we may have to consider that as a possibility, is probably too powerful
by MartinGG99
Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

This looks like a great way to generate discussion!
by MartinGG99
Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
by MartinGG99
Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

hmm...
by MartinGG99
Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:18 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:14 am
MartinGG99 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:11 am [VOTE: Flanders] aubergine

decides to check in after the check in phase
All of day 0 is check in phase?
if by that you mean night 0 where the thread is opened and people got their role PM's and people posted into the thread

then yeah

I don't see why flanders needed to post again with largely a meaningless post
by MartinGG99
Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:14 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

@Porscha

I know you said you were going to vote falcon buuuuuttttt

y no post
by MartinGG99
Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:11 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

[VOTE: Flanders] aubergine

decides to check in after the check in phase
by MartinGG99
Tue Jun 28, 2022 2:59 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [DAY 1]

decided to actually put thought into this

I doubt there's resurrections that change alignment unless that's, like, the only power that exists for the team that is doing the resurrection + change

or if there's in-game countermeasures that I don't know about

there may have been such a thing before this setup was down-sized but with a smaller player base I think resurrects + alignment changes are just too powerful and swingy since the proportional effect of changing one slot is much higher
by MartinGG99
Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:58 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: Reanimators [MAFIA WIN!]
Replies: 1308
Views: 34356

Re: Reanimators [NIGHT 0]

boop

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