The Syndicate

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:50 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:47 am

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:40 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:13 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:07 pm Anyway, me and tedxtr have PR claims, which is probably important. I'm three shot tracker (N1 Bereft visited nobody, N2 tried to visit tedxtr but was roleblocked, N3 Abby visited nobody), tedxtr claims 2-shot watcher who can't catch kills (D1 tried visiting Mac but was roleblocked, D2 nobody visited Windward (aside from presumably the killer, who is unknown)).

ted claims watcher when alexy also claims watcher...

hmm

sounds to me like alexey is cleared

nobody is claiming town tracker from your thread?

Cleared? Alexy seems to be the biggest suspicion from the other thread

aren’t the roles mirrored?

they said they had longcon as wwa’s role, alexey as my role

if anything you’re the one that looks bad, but idk how wolfy alexey has been here to really hammer the mech spec in

their thread had jack+darling confirmed masons, ours had nothing of the sort.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:10 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:08 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:05 am Anyways I really

Really

REALLY

Think Rondo TMId Made town and I can't get that post out of my head

what post? we can't quote but you can say the postnum.

with you in feeling skill issue, if you're town anyway.

The one where he said if Made is town we have to clear him and never push him

It's

So

Bad

mm. looked it up. did not help me as much as i hoped.

wish porscha was still around.

hi ted.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:05 am Anyways I really

Really

REALLY

Think Rondo TMId Made town and I can't get that post out of my head

what post? we can't quote but you can say the postnum.

with you in feeling skill issue, if you're town anyway.

the show lore is kind of a cult but given we have mafia flips i don't think we can be dealing with one here.

anyhow. sup abi.

who are the wolves?

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:39 am
tutuu, me, and Werefuck were all pretty expected kills in your last wolf game, so press x to doubt.

Werefuck

Werefuck

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:29 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:28 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:20 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:14 am But I did notice that besides Abby, the other person Bereft was pushing was Ranmilia. Ranmilia seems like the only obvious connection between the Bereft and Gira kills.

Bereft was someone RDB wouldn't want to kill but Abby would. Gira was someone Abby wouldn't want to kill but RDB would. I guess an RDB/Abby pairing would solve this issue but it's still weird.

I don't ever kill mac and wind, I don't kill Bereft (though i guess from your pov i can't prove that) and i don't kill gira heading into today if i know it's not true lylo, which i think wolves must've known. though again idk if that will make sense to you.

"I wouldn't do this as a wolf" is too easy for a wolf to say for me to put any stock in it.

well you can put stock in mac and wind, the death of tsp, and also that i had PR reads on ted and wind. if that helps at all. anyhow.

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:20 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:14 am But I did notice that besides Abby, the other person Bereft was pushing was Ranmilia. Ranmilia seems like the only obvious connection between the Bereft and Gira kills.

Bereft was someone RDB wouldn't want to kill but Abby would. Gira was someone Abby wouldn't want to kill but RDB would. I guess an RDB/Abby pairing would solve this issue but it's still weird.

I don't ever kill mac and wind, I don't kill Bereft (though i guess from your pov i can't prove that) and i don't kill gira heading into today if i know it's not true lylo, which i think wolves must've known. though again idk if that will make sense to you.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:13 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:08 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:05 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:04 am Is tedxtr's vote on RDB EoD4 solid enough evidence that they're not paired?

Not from my pov. its t/t. But I think we are unpaired anyway

oh really

is it now

yes, made has flipped town, I know I am town.

Whats with this weird ass nit picking?

because it looked like you're tmiing ted town

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:08 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:05 am wolf!abi doesn't kill me, doesn't kill rondo, doesn't kill leetic... it would have to be ted or gira.

I think Abby actually has more motivation to kill me than Gira, namely to confirm my third tracker shot as real. I don't see why she would kill Gira, who was explicitly pushing Ranmilia/RDB and was quite deflated besides. But it may have had to do with Abby's partner in a w!Abby world.

why would she kill you to confirm that rather than keep you alive? *you* would know your track is real and presumably be more likely to not vote her.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:05 am

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:04 am Is tedxtr's vote on RDB EoD4 solid enough evidence that they're not paired?

Not from my pov. its t/t. But I think we are unpaired anyway

oh really

is it now

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:59 am Although it is notable that TSP parked on RDB for most of D2 and seemed to be encouraging others to join his wagon.

i... actually did forget this. burnout. mm.

i should look into linux but windows on its own is so much of a hassle...

wolf!abi doesn't kill me, doesn't kill rondo, doesn't kill leetic... it would have to be ted or gira.

wolf!rondo doesn't kill me, prob doesn't kill abi, has good reason to kill leetic, has incentive to kill gira, could kill ted but why

wolf!leetic has minor incentive to kill ted and some incentive to keep gira/me alive but mostly can do whatever they want depending on partner

wolf!ted has incentive to kill gira, has maybe incentive to not kill leetic, mostly also sitting pretty

wolf!me has incentive to kill gira if and only if i think i'm going into a normal locked votes lylo sort of situation. more likely kills leetic and would have killed into leetic/ted ages ago.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:52 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:49 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:41 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:26 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:09 am While we may not be able to quote iso's I think it'd be helpful if we reviewed our threads and at least comment as to who should be removed from PoE and why.

me - killed TSP, attested towny by all dead town, kept alive because i was tunneled on dizzymade and prob shielding a wolf in rondo/abi, can't wolf this well and would be a ridiculously self defeating strategy.

leetic - constantly solving, often abrasive but has what we call a reality distortion field. jack has several games experience with and swears up and down this is town leetic. tracker claim.

... that's pretty much it on our side.

LOL. I killed TSP, was attested towny by all dead town WWA/Made/Pyxxy/Robyn and anyone who can say something about their meta can break it

you killed tsp by hopping around on the wagon late. i killed tsp by actually finding and casing him when WWA and others were top towning him. we've been over this. you suspect me? you think i am a wolf with tsp?

Incorrect. I killed TSP by actually starting the fucking wagon with WWA. She said lets get the ball rolling and I followed her 0 hesitation. 2nd on wagon. I jumped around to see how people reacted eod and I said it once but I will say it again. 0 chance I didnt end the day voting with the IC

... so you had no reason to vote TSP other than following WWA?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:41 am

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:26 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:09 am While we may not be able to quote iso's I think it'd be helpful if we reviewed our threads and at least comment as to who should be removed from PoE and why.

me - killed TSP, attested towny by all dead town, kept alive because i was tunneled on dizzymade and prob shielding a wolf in rondo/abi, can't wolf this well and would be a ridiculously self defeating strategy.

leetic - constantly solving, often abrasive but has what we call a reality distortion field. jack has several games experience with and swears up and down this is town leetic. tracker claim.

... that's pretty much it on our side.

LOL. I killed TSP, was attested towny by all dead town WWA/Made/Pyxxy/Robyn and anyone who can say something about their meta can break it

you killed tsp by hopping around on the wagon late. i killed tsp by actually finding and casing him when WWA and others were top towning him. we've been over this. you suspect me? you think i am a wolf with tsp?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 1:09 am While we may not be able to quote iso's I think it'd be helpful if we reviewed our threads and at least comment as to who should be removed from PoE and why.

me - killed TSP, attested towny by all dead town, kept alive because i was tunneled on dizzymade and prob shielding a wolf in rondo/abi, can't wolf this well and would be a ridiculously self defeating strategy.

leetic - constantly solving, often abrasive but has what we call a reality distortion field. jack has several games experience with and swears up and down this is town leetic. tracker claim.

... that's pretty much it on our side.

people from workthread, can we get a recap on how the lime coke kill day went?

The potential game end makes me worried about voting in our side, if it's true we were "in lylo". and also i. don't know who it is. from yesterday it feels like it has to be rondo but... i'm compromised and demoralized.

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:38 pm I still think that solving from the idea that there are two remaining from my thread and one from the other is best. I doubt that only two wolves threatens to end the game here unless we are dealing with ridiculous KP or a very swingy ITP.

well we did just have a billion deaths in a night but, yeah. thinking bereft was likely 3p at this point.

all the PR claims (except darling) apparently living is. certainly. something. jack's initial thought is alexy last wolf on his side.

oh speak of the devil he just showed up

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:19 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:15 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:14 pm I believe my partner is probably Rondo. Someone else had said as much on our thread as well.

Yeah, the shadow votes confirm as such. Do you have a record of the shadow votes in the other thread?

all I remember is tutu got one on day 2

Are you still on comms with pyxxy? I still have chat with jack but he's not been around yet.

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:10 pm Is it possible it's:
DarlingMonroe/Made
Brad/Bereft?
With some sort of mechanic to prevent Bereft from flipping so his partner isn't outted?

Made was definitely with lime coke, lime posted in our thread and they both confirmed it

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:05 pm

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:03 pm Hang on, why isn't Lime Coke's partner dead?

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:41 pm So here's all the confirmed partnersh

nutella/Mac
ilario/TSP
Porscha/Abby
Jack/Ranmilla
tutuu/robyn
Delta/no one
Long Con/WindwardAway
Brad/Made
Scotty/Gira
DarlingMonroe/Bereft
Alexy/pyxxy

According to this Lime Coke (Brad) and Made are partners

Unless this is wrong

oh they're off this list. hm.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:04 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:01 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:59 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:55 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:53 pm

Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign

NO SHIT. Who controls the night kills? Made was on me for self pres as well. We didnt want to vote each other.

Given Gira's deflated attitude, it is a shock that they were killed over me or Ranmilia. Then again, Bereft was apparently killed N3 so maybe the wolves are just high. Still, why do you think Gira was the choice?

NGL I am glad they killed Gira, I was never getting there.

wait are you reading what I am saying? Legit I am saying Gira was killed to frame me

YOU are saying gira was killed to frame YOU???

yes. he was voting me. Made was voting me and just as leetic has pointed out (which is exactly the kind of push I was expecting after reading that eod btw so not happy there) What? do you think the Gira kill frames anyone else MORE?

uh yes it frames the heck out of me... i don't wanna talk about his last few posts but... did you read them...

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:03 pm Hang on, why isn't Lime Coke's partner dead?

they are, it was dizzy/made in our thread

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:02 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:54 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:50 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:33 pm

So you are paired with me / made(dizzy)?

huh?

nvm I didnt read. You would have been our D3 vote?

still not sure what you mean.

I got 2 separate messages that said the same thing regarding the shadow vote. the first time it was at the start of my thread's d3, 11/20, and the second was at the start of my thread's d4, 11/22.

are you even playing the same game as me?

Or are things different in thread 2?

You vote, we get +1s to our linked companions
We vote, you get +1's to your linked companions.

Or so I have understood the setup

is that actually the setup though or is that the hypothesis of the setup

Everyone paired with someone who was lynched in the other thread (Abby D1, TSP D2, and Made D4) received a second vote. Looking at the poll from the other thread, tutuu being voted D1 lines up with robyn receiving a secret vote, and this seems to confirm psv as RDB's partner. Gira received one D3, which lines up with Scotty being voted. So yeah, I think this is confirmed.

Ye these are the pairings jack and i figured out

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:00 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:59 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:55 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:52 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm

... what did you "prove"

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm

Proved it how?

FMPOV I am basically spewed town here. Wolves have tried to get me over as low hanging fruit because I am busy as fuck and I keep coming back and showing I am town. I did and WWA saw it and then everyone town read me and no one pushed me till the day after she was dead and all of a sudden it was kill Rondo. When I came back and started looking around at Abbi/Gira/Ted all of a sudden Made was possible. I tried to get any other wagon going before I passed out but not happening. We were lead into a sleepy vote EOD that I didnt want but had to take

Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign

NO SHIT. Who controls the night kills? Made was on me for self pres as well. We didnt want to vote each other.

Given Gira's deflated attitude, it is a shock that they were killed over me or Ranmilia. Then again, Bereft was apparently killed N3 so maybe the wolves are just high. Still, why do you think Gira was the choice?

NGL I am glad they killed Gira, I was never getting there.

wait are you reading what I am saying? Legit I am saying Gira was killed to frame me

YOU are saying gira was killed to frame YOU???

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:55 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:53 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:52 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:44 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm

hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.

WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night

... what did you "prove"

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm

hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.

WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night

Proved it how?

FMPOV I am basically spewed town here. Wolves have tried to get me over as low hanging fruit because I am busy as fuck and I keep coming back and showing I am town. I did and WWA saw it and then everyone town read me and no one pushed me till the day after she was dead and all of a sudden it was kill Rondo. When I came back and started looking around at Abbi/Gira/Ted all of a sudden Made was possible. I tried to get any other wagon going before I passed out but not happening. We were lead into a sleepy vote EOD that I didnt want but had to take

Two of your voters yesterday are flipped town however, which is never a good sign

NO SHIT. Who controls the night kills? Made was on me for self pres as well. We didnt want to vote each other.

Given Gira's deflated attitude, it is a shock that they were killed over me or Ranmilia. Then again, Bereft was apparently killed N3 so maybe the wolves are just high. Still, why do you think Gira was the choice?

seconding this. I thought I was going to be either dead or thunderdoming gira to a probable (now certain) loss today.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:39 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:38 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.

Are you pyxxy's partner?

Yes, was just making a post to say this. they'd called me town over on my thread based on our discord DMs. they can't post on thread anymore.

pyxxy is also of the opinion that since we'd voted off 2 wolves and one 3p, the remaining wolves are likely to be from your thread

hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.

WWA Declared me town and I proved it last night

... what did you "prove"

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:29 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:23 pm

Alexy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:21 pm I had an extra vote placed on me during the last cycle for whatever that's worth, I had it on D3 as well.

Are you pyxxy's partner?

Yes, was just making a post to say this. they'd called me town over on my thread based on our discord DMs. they can't post on thread anymore.

pyxxy is also of the opinion that since we'd voted off 2 wolves and one 3p, the remaining wolves are likely to be from your thread

hi pyxxy. sorry for... everything.

yesterday in our thread was a fire in which either rondo narrowly escaped death after being a near unanimous wagon, or no wolves were threatened all day. dizzymade were town so. things are. not good.

well then.

what were the exact flips (don't copy paste) of illario/delta/lime coke?