The Syndicate

That's basically my entire legacy and I gave my full reasoning for those reads yesterday so you can go check that if you want I don't particularly feel like defending myself especially since the case against me rests primarily on the actions of my previous slot holder which I can't defend so Listen ...

Hm okay
In that case I'm maintaining what I said earlier, kill Nanook kill Wilgy GG, if we lose then still GG because the last wolf played p well, if it's Dizzy then I blame you for executing lucy yesterday because we would've had room for executing Dizzy otherwise

So Nanook, I'm going to assume I die today for a moment
I flip town
You go to f4
You sleep
If Wilgy is in f3, are you just snapvoting the other person?

Way I see it I should probably stick to early reads and go the Wilgy route, sometimes I get that Dizzy moment of casually nailing a few off entrance Going to unvote, maybe take it a bit slower this day, there should be enough info to figure it out I'm asking if NANOOK is still shielding Wilgy for a...

Man had I known you were going to kill one of my villagers and then me I would've asked you to kill me yesterday instead so you'd maybe listen to my legacy but instead we're in f6 and there's a real chance you kill me now and don't listen to me in f3 Also the f3 composition is worse now no matter ho...

In that case it's not really worth listening to
Are you still shielding Wilgy?

By "you" I mean the village at large
Also if you're going to throw buzzwords like "tmi" and "deflection" then how about giving some actual examples

Oh no, I read Vul's ISO and it's townie. His treatment of me feels very townie It isn't tho, its just deflection and tmi with a bit of ate sprinkled throughout No you just evidently aren't listening to me and you just killed someone I'd cleared the very same day so I'm allowed to be a little frustr...

I'm personally still leaning Wilgy over Dizzy to a pretty significant extent if I assume Nanook is town but I'm not sure how much this'll matter to you

Kill Nanook and then weigh Nanook's shield on Wilgy vs Dizzy's play in f3 because I don't think there's a world where these two aren't both alive in f3 Assuming Nanook isn't just mafia and his elim doesn't end the game right there Whoever of Seanzie/Vivax will be in f3 isn't mafia and if you kill th...

I usually don't like accusing town of throwing because it's toxic and I'm still not accusing you of throwing but I do think that EoD and this SoD are extremely wolfsided decisions
Admittedly my POV is biased because I know I'm town but yes

Dizzy could be a wolf playing well in which case kudos to Dizzy and they frankly deserve the win
There was an option to kill them in f3 after Nanook/Wilgy but that option went away when you voted out lucy yesterday against my wishes so I'm not going to feel at fault for this

Dizzy/Nanook contains at least one wolfsiding villager unfortunately going by how yesterday's EoD and today's SoD went

If you do vote me out, I'm just going to join Achromatic in screaming for Nanook's head after I flip and if the wolf is Wilgy then I will equally blame Nanook for shielding a wolf and the rest of the village for deciding to vote out my townread and then me instead of killing the tiny grouping I gave...

And before you go "why is Vulgard alive if he's correct about Nanook/Wilgy having the last mafia" I'm pretty clearly misyeetable as demonstrated here by you immediately going "vote Vulgard" at this SoD even though you just killed a villager that I'd cleared The last wolf needs vi...

I laid out my thought process quite clearly yesterday and you pivoted to lucy for no reason, and now you want to kill me
I don't understand what's so difficult about just listening to me and voting out Nanook and then Wilgy and probably winning the game

Vulgard: "kill Nook, Wilgy, Dizzy in f3, win the game"
Town: kills lucy instead, lucy flips town

Town on the next day: kill Vulgard

If you want to lose that badly then I suppose you can kill me and I'll even selfvote

I'm quite convinced this is game-winning

Mac - obvious villager Seanzie - obvious villager, Porscha spew looks good for him as well Dizzy - looks fairly good off treatment of Porscha/Tommy and posting in relation to Porscha and Achromatic on day 2 felt very organic, also believable doc read on Nanook given the reasoning presented Vivax - n...

tbh at the time it seemed like a panicked reaction at missing the doc and also showed them as the primary candidate likely to not have shot Rondo due to simply not believing him or knowing I thought it lined up well with their "nanook is town, just trust me" moments the day before Usually...

Or at least you had them as off the table yesterday

Hey Dizzy why are Wilgy and Nook off the table when based on my solving today these are the only two possible wolves and one is shielding the other making the vote very clear

I'm reading Dizzy's posting about Achro and Porscha later into day 2 and I struggle to see this as coming from a wolf
The turnarounds feel very organic

Achro This is how I see this going. Achro will write words and not get chopped today, as I will have to go to bed at some point and not be here to not be able to get him chopped anyway. Instead Porscha is chopped, flips v, I argue with Achro all of next day about me lining up mischops and whatever ...

I've also noticed that there was no significant resistance to either Tommy or Porscha and I didn't find anybody really defending them in their ISOs other than the mild thing from Dizzy I posted above so yeah

It's worth noting that neither Tommy nor Porscha had even a speck of thread influence so whoever is the third wolf benefits a lot from bussing them
There's no powerwolfing to be done when these are your partners (no offense)

Nanook voting Tommy, refusing to elaborate and then Tommy flipping mafia is kinda yikes Probably sounds nonsensical to wolfread someone for voting a wolf but doing it like this is prime bus/distancing material Does the same thing to Porscha on day 2 Sabi/sean/mac/axe all town Wilgy still leaning tow...

These posts are interesting because they actually aren't super early into day 1 so Rondo calling them out as a bus might actually have some merit, pivoting immediately to the other wolf partner is pretty clever Tommy Thread flow or he's frozen or whatever Actually I probably shouldn't vote someone I...

Achromatic isn't mafia. Nor is Dyslexicon. But why. His words don’t impress me. I think he tried to distract from Tommy D1 Ah yes lets tie ourselves firmly to the sinking brick. That sounds like the decision making of a skilled mafioso. I actually think he would. But it depends on Porscha. If Porsc...

I'd like to hear an explanation why people think Nanook doesn't kill Axe n2 because I'm reading his ISO rn and I don't see it

I'm at Wilgy/Nanook/Dizzy and it's a matter of ordering them so we end the game as fast as possible and I don't feel bad about killing another town which I always do

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:36 am funny haha or funny lol?

Both

I don't think I can look past these lucy interactions at the moment

I don't mind being listened to (in fact it makes me happy) it's just funny that I'm in this position given my status as a replacement

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 8:32 am let's just do what vulgard says to do

Funny to hear you say that when I replaced in on day 3 without having read a single post and I'm still only familiar with a couple of ISOs + like 30-something pages of the game, I didn't expect to be put in this position

The progression from "they aren't talking so I can't protect them" "oh so they're mafia for it" "no it's NAI but it's suspicious because it's making me unable to read them and they could be doing this to fool me, we're about the same skill level" is extremely town AI imo

yes, but they aren’t playing their wolf or town game Perfect. Then we can deduce by Lucy's testimony that Tommy is not in their wolf meta and their absence is firmly NAI and can we dispell the notion he is frozen. So lets be patient with him, it costs us little and undue pressure causes town member...

do u have any reads @Porscha yeah I guess I TL mac and wilgy right now kuti seems on par from the MU game I played with her I'm not a big day 1 player, I find it's really only useful later in the game to retrospectively see how people interacted we must be similar talk more, ur being scumread (SR) ...

Okay so we're in agreement then Vivax/Mac/Seanzie just town Dizzy/Wilgy/lucy/Nanook If you think Dizzy doesn't double bus just like that, remove Dizzy Wilgy you can remove for Nanook shield, never kill this before Nanook Lucy/Nanook Lucy has interactions with Tommy in her favor, Nanook doesn't Readi...

The other reason I think Seanzie is town is how he treated Mac day 1
Mac what do you think about it in hindsight
Specifically the part where he pushed you, claimed he had a good read on you, and you two argued about that for a bit

Vivax/Porscha interactions do look pretty good for Vivax yeah idk i'm put off by the mac seanzie thing and then rondo's vote with seanzie dazed me and I feel like something is not right here do kinda feel like seanzie is tunneling a bit, but sean has been known to do some weird shit early and then e...

Maybe I should reconsider Seanzie

I would go Nanook -> Wilgy -> Dizzy and take the L if wrong Yes this does mean I want to kill Wilgy even if Nanook flips town which implies I'm going to ignore his shield But like I said I have actual reasons to think other people are town which are stronger than the reasons I have for Wilgy so from...

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:55 pm Honestly anyone having their online status turned on is >rand mech cleared town LOL

Villagery

Re: lucy there is that one post and later segment that would be quite bold from a wolf and that's the point when lucy pings Tommy and has a whole interaction about Tommy not playing the game

OK no one answers me Whats your question I'm still not home yet but yea it being a mod kill doesn't give us that much info if he was bussed or not. Do we just treat this as a d1 Ah Id say kinda half and half, most people im treating it as a day one pretty much given the unexpected end time, but im ...

I do still think it's Nanook by the way Dizzy is someone I would only consider in f3 because their posts about flipped wolves look very good for them Seanzie and Mac are blatant villagers Lucy I think is playing this like a villager would be Wilgy is the other option but since he's getting shielded ...

So why is Nanook town again?

Well I did want to announce self-pressing because if I strongly believe somebody is town being wrongly wagoned I'm not going to self-pres on them

I'm going to self-pres ftr

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