The Syndicate

Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:36 am @Esooa I am sorry I was wrong about you. Would you like a story of forgiveness?

that's okay @Grogu , I was wrong on you too regardless

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:11 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:10 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:07 pm i hardclaim mafia
Wait is this a role swap
im gay

@Made consider the following: I'm town

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:55 pm Clear
Made
Michelle
SPF

Town reads
nutella
Omega
tutuu

Technical suspects
Grogu
Nanook

Concrete suspects
JJJ
DkKoba
Alison

Here’s where I’m at btw. Starting from the bottom the order I’d want things to go in

I have transcended mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:13 pm @nutella what would you call your best mafia-aligned performance ever?

http://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=2006

@DkKoba did u read my stormtossed game uwu

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:19 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:17 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:11 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one
Worth asking:

If you're mafia, then that term up there would pretty well apply. Why's it funny?
Because (a) it's not in my range and (b) I haven't even pushed much that hard other than michelle who i backed off and went with consensus on ellie anyway
I remember looking at post game chat of my recent wolf game

"Here is why Mac is obviously town while Esooa is wolf

Mac is trying to read the game and evaluate players

Esooa is saying 'I'm not in my range'"

He was right
I have been reading the game and evaluating players this whole phase.

Guess who hasn't?

flip me and you'll see I'm town :^)

DkKoba wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:18 pm saying ur out of ur scumrange is scummy

yes

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:14 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:11 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:59 pm posts are long and i'm making dinner but the idea i'm "powerwolfing" is a funny one
Worth asking:

If you're mafia, then that term up there would pretty well apply. Why's it funny?
Because (a) it's not in my range and (b) I haven't even pushed much that hard other than michelle who i backed off and went with consensus on ellie anyway

I remember looking at post game chat of my recent wolf game

"Here is why Mac is obviously town while Esooa is wolf

Mac is trying to read the game and evaluate players

Esooa is saying 'I'm not in my range'"

He was right

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:12 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:07 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives
I changed my mind
what was it about Alison's post that moved you the most?
I didn't like Nutellas response to it, and her point about she wouldn't have been getting bussed was IMO accurate. The thread state around her feels like she doesn't have partners rn. I've not seen her wolf so I could be wrong on this, but yeah. In a similar vain I disagree with a lot of the teams you make with Alison and don't think she has many if any viable ones
Again I think the point about her getting bussed is moot bc someone like you would def be deeper than her anyway, and also if she's not the mafia PR she would want to go before them

I mean first of all I'm blatantly town

second of all I'm never consdering this point

third of all, no, a team of Alison+Esooa+1 does not decide to bus in any way. Like at all. Why would we do that. We would own the thread

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:06 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:04 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives
I changed my mind
what was it about Alison's post that moved you the most?

I didn't like Nutellas response to it, and her point about she wouldn't have been getting bussed was IMO accurate. The thread state around her feels like she doesn't have partners rn. I've not seen her wolf so I could be wrong on this, but yeah. In a similar vain I disagree with a lot of the teams you make with Alison and don't think she has many if any viable ones

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:03 pm Like you were agreeing with me on everything and voting alison until she made her megapost and you suddenly unquestioningly believed it

What gives

I changed my mind

nutella+tutuu+grogu

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:57 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:56 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:51 pm just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole
why is nutella mafia
because Alison isn't
Alison's alignment does not have a causal impact upon nutella's alignment. Please expand

I mean it quite literally does without even considering anything else. If there's 8 town and 2 mafia, each player is 20% chance to be mafia. If we then say Alison is town, there's 7 town 2 mafia, meaning each player has a 22% chance of being mafia. Regardless, Alison explained it well enough why Nutella is in her post. And if Alison is town, the post is to be believed. I think Alison is town. I agree with her post.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:56 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:51 pm just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole
why is nutella mafia

because Alison isn't

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:55 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:51 pm just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole
tbh I kind of felt something similar but ignored it because I think Alison is mafia.

If Alison is town, I will remember Esooa kind of TMIing it

okay buddy

just feels like he's skirting around, looking for where the PoE can go when Alison flips town lole

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:28 pm i already said this last night, but i'm finding that jagged's town equity is increasing more largely as the day goes on. the number of possible team combinations that involve him are slowly dwindling (for example, i don't feel that DOOM or koba make a good fit for a jagged partner - perhaps i'm just gullible, but i don't feel that the level of personal anger/frustration would come from teammates), and i do think there is some truth to the idea that if he was playing from a scum mindset, he would probably be trying to "pick a lane" as opposed to wandering aimlessly and feeling confused. i feel that both his approach and his interactions w/the people here are indicative of someone with a torn town mindset. it's hard to imagine jagged not just bussing alison for towncred here if they were partnered

that said, i still don't see a good reason to townread alison. i think her game has been strong at points but she's consistently maintained and reinforced an objectively incorrect POE and i've consistently felt that she has the highest level of deepwolf equity out of everyone in this game. as for her partners, i'm actually not very sure - i'm starting to tinfoil tutuu more than i was before. i don't find her to be the shining beacon of towniness that i saw her as during the first 2 days. my gun to head guess for the team would perhaps be something like alison/koba/tutuu? hm

I've actually found jjj to be more scummy as today goes on

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:57 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:56 pm if they have a vig shot only two
No

We saved a kill

Extra mafia kp results in lack of sleep at mylo

Amount of yeets remains unchanged

oh, cool

if they have a vig shot only two

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:46 pm
Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:42 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what's your solve?
Three out of alison/dk/doom/grogu/jay

not sure why, if you have tutuu and nutella as town, you aren't lock scum reading Alison. I don't think this game is one where a team found only in dk/doom/grogu/Jay is holistically possible

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:40 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:33 pm I dropped off in content today because I don't find it very important to personality interact rn, as well as doing other things. If we're looking for a deep wolf I'm also confident my day 1/day 2 was way too towny to tinfoil so if I care to change the direction of the game I can just case someone and case myself.

I don't need to right now because nutella is scum reading and affirming my read which is nice
this game is at one moment about looking back and rereading
Only the volume style posting will not give you a solid solve if you are villager Esooa
What do you think about early interaction in the game, who pushed who and for what reason, how were the votes forming the wagons, all these have a meaning you should search for.
Being complacent because you succeed to be towny in the first days is not what I expected from you tbh

I said my reason for dropping off is I don't think live interacting rn is necessary. You agree, saying "the game is about looking back and rereading," no? I'm not complacent, but I feel right now it's better and easier for me to let people do their thing itt and see what I think about

what I think rn is my vote is on nutella

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:36 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:33 pmIf we're looking for a deep wolf I'm also confident my day 1/day 2 was way too towny to tinfoil
This would seem to be incorrect given the thread right now, yes?

just cause people don't agree rn doesn't mean it's incorrect

I dropped off in content today because I don't find it very important to personality interact rn, as well as doing other things. If we're looking for a deep wolf I'm also confident my day 1/day 2 was way too towny to tinfoil so if I care to change the direction of the game I can just case someone and case myself.

I don't need to right now because nutella is scum reading and affirming my read which is nice

saying to look at made is scummy though lol

nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:33 am another passing thought: one of alison's defense points was that she would never be the first mafia member to go/get bussed. but does that hold up if she's not actually the deepest wolf, ie in a world where her teammates are, say, esooa and jay?

if only these points were worthwhile. They're not, because I'm town.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:50 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:41 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:39 am the only thing that makes me concerned about an alison vote today is that i am heavily tinfoiling tutuu, and that's exactly where tutuu is voting

hmm
what do you think of the "I'm town" arguments Alison gave?
her argument about not killing tutuu/not letting tutuu carry the kill is fine - good, even, but it comes bundled with a variety of assumptions that we can not deductively know (ie: what if tutuu carried the vig kill and alison carried the maf kil? (ok not likely tbh) what if tutuu's role made it mechanically optimal for her to carry the kill?) it ultimately boils down to wifom, even if the wifom is convincing, and that's why i'm reluctant to put much stock into it

her argument about her never allowing herself to be bussed this early as scum is fine too, but again, it's the type of argument that doesn't connect with me because it assumes definitive statements about the organization & the mechanics of the scumteam that are impossible for us to deductively know - and as such, arguments made on that basis aren't as impactful as they should be

anyway i think the reasoning is fine, but it doesn't particularly make me want to townclear alison. i don't view the arguments in that way

it's not possible that scum used both KP last night unless Tutuu used both

Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:36 am gamers I have

white wine,
scotch,
grapefruit/rose vodka,
honeydew sake

what should I drink

@DkKoba

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME help me out uwu

Made wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:43 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:39 am the only thing that makes me concerned about an alison vote today is that i am heavily tinfoiling tutuu, and that's exactly where tutuu is voting

hmm
Super behind, but the way I keep things simple with Tutuu WiFom it boils down to one question: was Tutuu targeted? If she was then she’s town. If she wasn’t she is mafia.

Is this help for in any way or kinda beside the point?

I opened the day very much tin-foiling Tutuu and I think your analysis of the likelyhood she was targeted to be "Not It" fwiw

@staypositivefriend what do you tihnk of the way Grogu is treating Alison

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:39 am the only thing that makes me concerned about an alison vote today is that i am heavily tinfoiling tutuu, and that's exactly where tutuu is voting

hmm

what do you think of the "I'm town" arguments Alison gave?

gamers I have

white wine,
scotch,
grapefruit/rose vodka,
honeydew sake

what should I drink

@DkKoba

bruh it was a real read

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:29 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:28 am what's "Pepe Silvia"

Spoiler: show

lmfao

what's "Pepe Silvia"

but re-reading I can see that's not the only meaning, just explaining what I got from it

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:55 pm Copy:
Esooa is pushing Grogu and me moderately hard. Dkkoba is pushing anyone that pushes them fiercely. nutella is pushing me fiercely, and tutuu is pushing DOOM fiercely and me moderately. The two possible patterns that match what I'd expect to see from a deepwolf needing to exert control over the game are nutella and tutuu. Esooa doesn't really fit for a couple of reasons: she doesn't seem that invested in controlling the narrative today, there's been enough rage and controversy over her that I think her teammates would proabbly have shut down if she was scum, and her pushes are chill and don't have the brute force vibe that the other three do.

This is troubling me. If Ali is town, why is essoa pushing me and her not exactly what she said scum would do???
Essoa is pushing town/town. I feel like she’s giving essoa a free pass and being super soft. It is just me?

maybe not, but

"If Ali is town"

pinged me. You quoted Alison, so I'd assume you to be talking to her, and give her input on her thought processes, you are town, and look at this. Instead you talk to the thread at large, where you also say "if Ali is town"

I'm kinda scum reading the nature of Nutellas response here. I don't like how she believes Alison to currently be scum, but is trying to discredit her world view on the basis of itself. I'd find that if someone is scum, the world view naturally has a scum agenda, and if you wish to prove Alison is scum, you angle not to discredit her world view but first saying why she is scum; why her reasons for saying she is town are invalid. I think Nutella going to why Alisons world view is incorrect is necessary for Nutella to do, in a world Nutella is scum. @staypositivefriend does this make sense?

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

grogu switching to shading Alison after town reading her at a point he should be town reading her more is basically outing and a strong affirmation Alison is correct imo. In short I'm currently sheeping Alison

grogu didn't give a fuck to read a single person yesterday when only people being pushed were town. He's all "I agree I don't really care." Now Alison is pressured and he completely changes and town reads her for no reason and looks everywhere else to go. Like he's just scum with Alison

DkKoba wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:10 pm also who tf are u that u saw me play as town

aobenji

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:04 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:26 pm I will be doing four deep ISO dives into players I think seriously need to be reviewed. I will be doing nothing else during this game day.

Let me state this first, I am not doing any of these deep dives to get someone baked. I want to be voted and killed; I don’t want to socially interact in the game currently. These are for people to look at for what I think after I flip town. I don’t like being told that I am not a positive in game, and I want to make sure I at least help town win the best I can. Do not ask me questions or ping me please. I will be posting 4 deep dives hopefully.
@DaughterOfOmega dont waste your valuable time in me please. Trust me I am town.
Focus on more unconventional targets.
Look at made, essoa, jagged, tuttu etc

mfing made this guy is straight up just trying to scum read everyone who isn't his partner

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:01 pm I think it comes off like a "gotcha" to me and snap votes at this point in the game on the basis of something like that feel a bit bunk.

But whatever, I need to return to analysis. The dialogue in the thread right now is not helping me much.

but I already said I thought grogu was very scummy today

my are you trying to spew your partner was sarcastic if it's not noticable

Grogu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:19 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:21 pm my hope is that Alison or Grogu flip mafia, so that I can post my interactions with them and be town lol
This is very bad post. Not only is clear I am town, but Alison is clearly town also. This is concerning post, didn’t you post you used to be a monster at this game? You are as clueless as I am.
Monster inc. type of monster you are

are u trying to spew your partner rn

[VOTE: grogu] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:56 am but yeah, most situations where nutella is mafia, tutuu is town I think? this part wasn't very math-y but make sense i think
[VOTE: Tutuu] aubergine

not really a valid way to look at it. It was a PR hunt kill if they targeted tutuu. Avoiding considering this in "who would mafia kill" is flawed

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:44 am Can you briefly explain your scumread on me please?

seeing as your ISO completely doesn't work, and I was about to go to bed, no

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:19 am
Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:35 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:31 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:31 am Good mornin sunshines whats cookin
Someone tried to shoot you probably
Dude i just woke up and i dreamt someone was trying to mug me and stab me and i ran away. Is that just fate? Im telling u man my dreams are prophetic
scum reading this post but eeeeeee eiigneaoirghjaeo;gjharwelio
If i was scum u wouldnt scumread any of my posts

untrue

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