The Syndicate

a2thezebra wrote:What you say in-thread can change everything.

What more can I say? I've said before that I can see a set up where out cylons start neutral and are recruited to Cavil cause. It would mimic the infighting the cylons had lore based and still ballance the game.

In a perfect world we find Cavil before he has a chance to damage any cylons but that cause is prolly already lost.

In the meantime I'm hoping that when we do lynch a cylon we are told if he/she is Cavil or not. But given how la flipped, I don't think we will be told.

Matt? Really? Given what you know of the show, given you know I'm a fan too, you really can't see any reason at all I won't claim? Outside of I must be cain???

Ricochet wrote:Wait, bea, so you voted on Day Three for a player that you say you had a "null read" on?

I did the best I could under the assumtion that my vote for lorab was meaningless - that I could make -it wasn't the best vote in the world, but I thought we were testing lorab's cyloness or not.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

bea wrote:

Polo wrote:Bea, what do you think of sig, Glorfindel and DrWilgy?

they have only caught the outskirts of my attention.

I expected more from wigly when he subbed in - especially like with daisy I gave the olive branch of I just read through 30 pages of crap - let me know if I can help catch a brotha or sista out - and neither of them took the olive branch.

It tells me that they are either a) stubborn as fuck and will catch up on their on while also b) not comment on it.

And C be caught up as fuck.

Which - as much as I hate to admit - sounds like bts.

glor is like nero was for me yesterday - a null read.

bea I don't follow what you're saying in this post. Why does this suggest BTSC to you? Who is involved in said BTSC? You were asked about sig, Glorfindel, and DrWilgy. Do you mean all of them?

no - I ment that wilgly's and daisies not wanting help in catching up ment that they had some other ways of cathing up wich - since we've not seen them catch up implys some sort of bts.

Glor is still a null read. I'm sorry - Im prolly not still clear - I'm super tired.

Ricochet wrote:

bea wrote:

Spacedaisy wrote:It's only a tied lynch if she really didn't have amnesty. I'm inclined to believe she did.

I am as well. The question here is if she is a civ leaning cylon or part of Cavel's team.

Second time I'm reading someone mention "Cavil's team" as if it's a given. Was something about this revealed? Did I miss a memo?

He was the big bad of the show. He wanted to kill the human race. He wanted to destroy all cylons who sided with the humans.

I've spoke earlier how I could see his role being enacted in this game. It's not confirmed by a long streach but if there is any sort of "mafia" in this game it has to be against Caivil and anyone alighned with him.

DrumBeats wrote:

bea wrote:

Matt wrote:Okay.

President Roslin, if you're still with us, do you not see how this law is the worst thing you could've possibly done? We mislynched the XO of the Galactica and allowed a Cylon to live another die, and now it seems a Civil War is brewing because of this thing.

I BEG you to repeal the Cylon Amnesty Act the next time you're able to create a law. Something like "From here on out, The Cylon Amnesty Act does not exist" or some such.

For serious.

I'm kinda curious as to what you'd want our prez to do after she repeals the law you hate. And even if you hate it fir silly reasons.

Knowing it comes from Roslin makes me love it more tbh. Because - if you are a human civ who isn't guaranteed to know you can't be one of the final 5 - I have a super hard time understanding why a) you would push for humans to use up their amunity before b) they find out if they are final 5 or not.

Humans don't get immunity, only cylons. And now because of this bullshit marital law, we need the final five out too in order to win. Hence, everybody needs to get rid of their amnesty

pssst - given what I know of the show, I don't think anyone can win without being willing to work with a human or cylon or whatever is the "cross the bridge" for your role card. It is kinda the theme of the whole show.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Bea, you should catch up all the way before you declare yourself as a Cylon sympathizer. :P

nope - still cool with it.

lynch me if you must. I am what I am... all popeye like.

DrumBeats wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Everyone, before you pile your votes onto Lorab.

We should hang on for a bit first. We've got 48 hours in the day. Also, there has been resistance to "Mass-Cylon-Claim" plan. If any of said players are Cylons, we could effectively force them to use their amnesty before falling back to Lorab.

Just a thought.

Linki w/ Silverwolf: agreed.

True true, my bad jumping the gun.

Bea, while you're at it, claim cylon to burn your amnesty.

Nope. Won't do it.

Lynch me as a human.

I might yet, if I live long enough be a Final 5 and that Annesty might help me live to help the humans I fight for.

So yea. No. Not gonna burn that bridge Day 4 before I even know if I have to walk down it or not.

I do - though - as this debate goes on - grow more interested in the peeps who push for the absolutes. You absolutely must burn through your amnesty - right now - to prove you are human. Feels a LOT like "if you have nothing to hide, you have no reason to worry about the government watching what you read, do or watch ala 1984.

Golden wrote:THE ARRIVAL OF THE PEGASUS



"... and thats when I heard him say, that Marmot, he is actually slightly better than entirely worthless" said zebra, as she and Matt dissolved into fits of laughter.

They were on their way back to their quarters. They knew that the Admiral had scheduled an FTL jump to a nearby planet rich in Tylium. It was necessary to restock the fleet's supply of fuel - without it, they could not hope to outrun the cylons forever.

The Galactica jumped...

"Sir, DRADIS contact" said Vompatti "I just thought I should say something relevant".

"Attention, unkown vessel. This is the Battlestar Galactica" said sig "Identify yourself, or we will fire upon you."

A voice came back. "To the vessel that claims to be the Battlestar Galactica - this is the Battlestar Pegasus. Identify yourself with recognition codes immediately."

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Helena Cain was brought on board Galactica on a raptor. Everyone stood to attention as Cain surveyed them.

"Admiral" said Cain "you've done a fine job here. Your pilots are well trained. It's clear that the human race would not have survived in such numbers without you. I shall ensure you are appropriately honoured for your service as Admiral. However..." she tailed off.

The Admiral looked down at his insignia, and unclipped it from his jacket. "I believe this belongs to you." he said calmly.

No-one has died.

The secret role has been revealed to be Helena Cain. Helena Cain outranked everyone on the Galactica at the time of the destruction of the colonies, so is now the Admiral. She has declared martial law. In addition to any existing win conditions, Admiral Cain is imposing another. No human may win the game while any cylon is alive.

It is now day. You have 48 hours to lynch a frakking cylon.

wtf?

LoRab wrote:I'll also point out that everyone is assuming Nero was civ, but we don't actually know that. He could have been on a partly human or human mafia; he could be final five and those 5 may be or may become bad; he could have been recruited. Heck, for all we know, there's a seemer role on the baddie team.

Are you kidding me right now? In the lore, Nero's role as Saul was one of the final 5 and still totally deticated to his human fleet. Even after he spent a lifetime as a human only to find out he was one of the cylons he most racestly hated. Saul was the epitome of what the final 5 is supposed to be about. The fact that he died too early to be one of them is a tradgdy tbh.



this post is the reason I'm voting you early as soon as day breaks.

This is the reason it's now you or me. I know my role I'm comfortable being lynched as the role I've always said I've had - that is human with cylon sympathies.

This is the post where I don't believe you are a cylon working for the cause of good.

LoRab wrote:

Matt wrote:Lol I realize that the Saul role wasn't specifically lynched because of the law, I'm just saying...

Gaaah I don't even know how to word it. I just meant because of this law, we didn't nuke a Cylon, but got us a civ.

Suuuucks.

Pres Roslin, please repeal this law so we don't even have to talk about it anymore. It's distracting the town.

Long Con - I don't think we've had a "So Say We All" for awhile either, and yeah, there was no message from Adama. Blocked?

More specifically, you did not lynch a good cylon, had the opportunity to lynch an actual baddie, and lynched a different civ instead.

am I the actual baddie they could have lynched? cuz that's where your vote went and if that's what you belive is the baddie you are exactly as wrong about me as you think I am about you.


if not me then who? If me why nore than I over reacted to a "slip" call that wasn't really a slip on my part in the first place.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

bea wrote:I'm still stuck in the world's worst Sunday at work. I'm going to go with Nero in light of LoRab amnesty claim. I'm sorry I've been quiet. Hellish 5.99bcarry out weekend has been hellish.

vote nero

Back to hour 12 of work with no end in sight.

I think bea's Nero vote is one of the more suspicious in his wagon. She made only one prior comment in the game relevant to him (which was to ask him a question without giving a read on him). She was clearly short on time which is understandable since my LoRab vote was similarly hastened, but it shouldn't be hard to figure out why I made that vote in a hurry given my LoRab-relevant content prior.

bea acknowledged LoRab's amnesty claim and went for the growing counterwagon instead despite seemingly having had nothing to say about Nero before. In such a hurry as bea was, I'd have expected a vote more relevant to her own stated suspicions than this "go with the flow" vote.

In my hurry to read, I was lead to believe that going with a lorab vote ment that I was hurting the civs because we weren't "finding a baddie" in the second wagon. I know in hindsight this was bad. I'm so so sorry for this.

but from where I was at that moment in time, it was the best decision I could make. Especially as so many people were at that point saying a vote for lorab is null.


I can understand why you would think this. All I have is at the time, my "own stated suspicions" were being said in the thread

Matt wrote:Lol I realize that the Saul role wasn't specifically lynched because of the law, I'm just saying...

Gaaah I don't even know how to word it. I just meant because of this law, we didn't nuke a Cylon, but got us a civ.

Suuuucks.

Pres Roslin, please repeal this law so we don't even have to talk about it anymore. It's distracting the town.

Long Con - I don't think we've had a "So Say We All" for awhile either, and yeah, there was no message from Adama. Blocked?

You were at the start of the game most open minded - most lore based. And now with Saul dying you are closing your mind. I get it. I really do. I hate that I helped lynch Saul.

but please please matt don't close your mind because Saul died. Please please keep playing the game and keep searching for the lore and keep being the most sane matt I've ever seen.

And also I need one more night before I'd admit anyithing about the loss of an adamna message, Still crossing my fingers and hoping he was interfeared with last night.

ObscureAllure wrote:

LoRab wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:So you would put me before LoRab? Before people who have already said it and are cylon mafia like LongCon? I've already proven I'm not Nutella's partner in crime. You want to come after me for refusing to get punished again while ignoring mafia? That's on you. I've already received golden's wrath once this game, y'all done lost your marbles if you think I'm doing it again.

If there is more than 1 mafia, then your not being LA's teammate does not mean that you are not bad.

I hate to admit this because it probably looks bad for me but I do think there are two mafia, one directed by cavil and one that is either all human or mixed. Or, I think it's one mafia with recruiting powers. Either way you're right it doesn't completely exclude me. But nonetheless, I am not mafia.

I think a cavil cylon mafia and a secondary human mafia is most likely.

LoRab wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Also, if Lorab is a teammate LC didn't vote for him either but put an unexplained vote on Rico. I really believe his behavior and voting this game comes from a baddie mindset.

I AM FEMALE.

Silverwolf wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Fos Ricochet-He's too opposed to a plan that benefits civs and hurts baddies. I had a town read there until this. Also, D'Faraday needs to speak up or be lynched as well.

How does it hurt baddies? Give me your perspective. How is it unlikely for Cylons to literally blend in with a large crowd of fake claimers? Why am I suspicious for bringing this up?

Also, is your fake claim enabled and used up, if you say it during the Night?

Let me lay it out better:

We all claim day 4 that we are cylons. We lynch LoRab. Day 5 comes around and we scumhunt and lynch Long Con for example. Now, he dies. See what I mean? It prevents the situation that occurred between LoRab and Nero and reduces last minute vote scrambling and mislynches.

If you are still opposed to it after I say this, then you are an auto FoS.

I made my statement a few hours before the lynch ended. It didn't have to be last minute. I had hoped that it would result in actually lynching a baddie, which I knew would definitely not be the result if I had been lynched. As it was, y'all lynched a civ anyway.

Matt wrote:Rico, for serious?

Did you just not see how this "law" hurt the town yesterday? If such a law never existed, a Cylon would be lynched (and at this point, there's a better chance of Lorab being an evil Cylon then a good one), and the XO of the Battlestar would still be alive!!!

I'm a good one.

ObscureAllure wrote:So you would put me before LoRab? Before people who have already said it and are cylon mafia like LongCon? I've already proven I'm not Nutella's partner in crime. You want to come after me for refusing to get punished again while ignoring mafia? That's on you. I've already received golden's wrath once this game, y'all done lost your marbles if you think I'm doing it again.

If there is more than 1 mafia, then your not being LA's teammate does not mean that you are not bad.

fwiw - I can see 2 roles you can have that make you a cylon and still civ. I hope you have one of them and I'm not being played.

I also hope that you see that if I can see the potential good in you - you can see the good in me.

Lorab for realzies, I think this D1 was the first and only time I have EVER voted you. That was a mafia milestone for at least me.

I am willing to admit I might be wrong about you. And I'm also going to listen VERY hard to SVS's interpretation of things. Even if SVS ultimately thinks I'm bad.

Polo wrote:Bea, what do you think of sig, Glorfindel and DrWilgy?

they have only caught the outskirts of my attention.

I expected more from wigly when he subbed in - especially like with daisy I gave the olive branch of I just read through 30 pages of crap - let me know if I can help catch a brotha or sista out - and neither of them took the olive branch.

It tells me that they are either a) stubborn as fuck and will catch up on their on while also b) not comment on it.

And C be caught up as fuck.

Which - as much as I hate to admit - sounds like bts.

glor is like nero was for me yesterday - a null read.

Spacedaisy wrote:It's only a tied lynch if she really didn't have amnesty. I'm inclined to believe she did.

I am as well. The question here is if she is a civ leaning cylon or part of Cavel's team.

Long Con wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Wow, I butchered the hell out of that quote.

Oh well, I think it's clear what I mean.

What's clear (to anyone who wants to really look) is that you completely avoided engaging with any of my points or questions, and moved right to your tired old schtick of "he's misrepresenting! he's discrediting!" But don't worry, I doubt anyone will bother looking.

What points? You've made none. You are trying to belittle me and really, if you don't think anyone cares, why are you bothering with me?

I took your post apart and responded to each part individually. I even asked a question or two.

I don't think anyone cares what I say most of the time, but it still feels good to speak the truth despite that.

Linki: Oh, I didn't think BR's counted, I haven't looked in the Poll thread. So... tied lynch? Barring other manipulations, anyways. Means the same thing though.

again - fwiw - I care - just never sure how to take it. I mean...Lc...you know... I'm mulder with you...

Long Con wrote:

Matt wrote:President Roslin, if you're still with us...

Speaking of which: do you think Adama is still with us? We didn't get an address from him after last night.

This is a fair point and one I was hoping for all our sake wouldn't be near confirmed with the last Night cycle.

Long Con wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:Wow, I butchered the hell out of that quote.

Oh well, I think it's clear what I mean.

What's clear (to anyone who wants to really look) is that you completely avoided engaging with any of my points or questions, and moved right to your tired old schtick of "he's misrepresenting! he's discrediting!" But don't worry, I doubt anyone will bother looking.

as much as it pains me to say this, you might be on to sonmething here.

Matt wrote:Okay.

President Roslin, if you're still with us, do you not see how this law is the worst thing you could've possibly done? We mislynched the XO of the Galactica and allowed a Cylon to live another die, and now it seems a Civil War is brewing because of this thing.

I BEG you to repeal the Cylon Amnesty Act the next time you're able to create a law. Something like "From here on out, The Cylon Amnesty Act does not exist" or some such.

For serious.

I'm kinda curious as to what you'd want our prez to do after she repeals the law you hate. And even if you hate it fir silly reasons.

Knowing it comes from Roslin makes me love it more tbh. Because - if you are a human civ who isn't guaranteed to know you can't be one of the final 5 - I have a super hard time understanding why a) you would push for humans to use up their amunity before b) they find out if they are final 5 or not.

ObscureAllure wrote:

Matt wrote:I never once said I'd rather lynch you or anyone else before Lorab.

Do you not agree, that by YOU saying you will not do this, it opens up the door for others to come in and say "Yeah I dun wanna get punished either so I dun wanna say it" ?

I don't get how you would get punished for saying "I'm not a Cylon". How is that even punishable in any legit universe?

I disagree because A) we've called it out, B) I have evidence of what I said and my punishment.

And it's punishable because I wasn't being a good little Teapot who sticks to her role and doesn't piss off the Golden God of Battlestar Gallactica lore.

Linki: yeah well neither does the message in my inbox (make sense) but I never watched the show so I just do as I'm told.

Linki: No, when you anger the gods of sticking to your role description, you definitely can get in trouble. I'm not explaining it much more than this because then I'll just get punished for outing my role or win con. I'm leaving it as this: this girl ain't claiming to be any robot Borg bender android looking mofos and that's final.

does she smoke cigars and be a general BAD ASS? Cuz I really love that pilot.

DrWilgy wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: Nobody else (or only a few more) follow the plan: Then we continue the game with several cases of amnesty still in play. With unchangeable votes in the lynchpoll, then I completely agree with SVS. This will just lead to of chaotic lynch after chaotic lynch day-after-day.

I don't find it in the interest of any civilian to fakeclaim during future Day phases just to save their asses, so this scenario is actually better for leaving such pressure only to actual Cylons.

I disagree. As a human if I can save my ass by fake claiming for 1 phase, that's 1 phase where we can lynch a potential cyclon instead of 100% lynchin a hooman.

Zebrasauce is good this game!

I disagree. You don't know if you are final 5. If you are final 5 you are cylon and therfore by YOUR methods bad. That switch is going to flip one way or the other.


I was willing to give zeebs the botd when she was on her own - but seeing wiggly come in and defend her position after not doing so much I have my worry scope on.

Matt wrote:Oh snap "I am a Cylon" *

Also, it's an actual law that we're allowed to claim Cylon, whether it's true or not.

You make no sense, Oa.

yup - use it up quick and good. I hope you don't get tapped for final 5 matt. Cuz what you did right here - is claim to falsely be cylon - before you ever know *if* the switch is gonna flip and you are cylon. You could play this whole game as the civ I'm pretty positive you are and live JUST long enough to have the switch flipped and now you are just like lorab tbh.

And by that I mean you could be lynched dispite your good works in the game because you filpped final 5 and are a dirty cylon with no protection.


I am still always what I claimed to be. A human with cylon sympathies.

I won't claim cylon unless become one.

ObscureAllure wrote:So you would put me before LoRab? Before people who have already said it and are cylon mafia like LongCon? I've already proven I'm not Nutella's partner in crime. You want to come after me for refusing to get punished again while ignoring
mafia? That's on you. I've already received golden's wrath once this game, y'all done lost your marbles if you think I'm doing it again.

I'm not voting you any time soon no matter what rainbow lists say.

Matt wrote:

ObscureAllure wrote:The last time I made a statement remotely close to that, I spoke in smilies for two days. You out your damn mind. In a game full of triggers for every little thing we do you want me to say that? You don't know my role. You don't know the impact of saying that in other ways. Uh uh. Ain't no way.

We need to be unified in this.

Probability # 1 - You're a cylon who doesn't want to waste your amnesty.

Probability # 2 - Even if you're human, by not going along with this plan, you open the door to actual Cylons also disregarding the plan.

We all need to be on the same page. Rico won't like this, but I'm up for lynching anyone who doesn't want to go along tbh.

because you are sure you are somehow not final 5? cuz I'm a human and I lknow that if I live long enough - final 5 could be an issue.

how do you with all your lore knowledge not see this???

4 of the 5 final 5 were aligned to help the humans.

do you really want 4 of the 5 final 5 to waste their amnesty on day 4? before they even know it exists?

ObscureAllure wrote:The last time I made a statement remotely close to that, I spoke in smilies for two days. You out your damn mind. In a game full of triggers for every little thing we do you want me to say that? You don't know my role. You don't know the impact of saying that in other ways. Uh uh. Ain't no way.

I think I might adore you right now.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:Well two things:

If tomorrow is claim day from everyone, all Cylons will have amnesty. Unless we lynch a human that might happen to be bad, a mislynch is virtually guaranteed.

The plan is manipulable. The Cylons could blend and then maybe fuel a witchhunt for anyone who hasn't claimed. Because god knows some of you are already in "he who opposes = FoS" mode.

There are several players who can't have amnesty tomorrow, as Matt has highlighted. Lorab is one of them and likely to be lynched.

The point of the plan was to eliminate any of the amnesty existing, not to create a WIFOM world where the Cylons can wreak havoc. We've already agreed that Humans have nothing to lose by abiding. I've pointed out multiple reasons they have something to gain from it. As a result, I can't think of a reason that a human would refuse to follow it. As such, I think it's logical to be suspicious of someone who opposes.

here you officially suspect me. Because I will not claim to be cylon when I am not. And I WILL hold on to that law in case I'm one of the Final 5. I'm a complete human who sympathizes with cylons and understands that things aren't as black and white as you are trying to make them.

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: Nobody else (or only a few more) follow the plan: Then we continue the game with several cases of amnesty still in play. With unchangeable votes in the lynchpoll, then I completely agree with SVS. This will just lead to of chaotic lynch after chaotic lynch day-after-day.

I don't find it in the interest of any civilian to fakeclaim during future Day phases just to save their asses, so this scenario is actually better for leaving such pressure only to actual Cylons.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: Everyone but the Cylons follow the plan: Then we found our Cylons. I don't expect this result, but it is possible.

Who is "everyone"? If you are supposedly an uninformed civilian, you should have no concept of who "everyone but Cylons" might be. There is no way to distinguish Cylons from humans (or baddies from civilians) simply by assuming that "everyone but Cylons will follow through". I don't find this scenario feasible. Case in point, I am human civilian and don't plan to fake Cylonclaim. What you're proposing sounds almost like a "hey, everyone who is civ say so, the others must be therefore bad". Uh, fat chance.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: Everyone follows the plan: We don't learn who the Cylons are, but they are at least easier to lynch.

If everyone follows the plan, we go back to the usual lynch status quo, in which nobody is safe from lynching based on this law. That's about it.

Metalmarsh89 wrote: What do we have to lose by using this plan Ricochet? How would it hurt the humans for every player to Cylon-claim?

It would not hurt the humans, but it would not help them bait or distinguish Cylons no more. Besides, we should be respecting da law and I find it that this law was meant to ensnare Cylons, not for us to use it en gros to allow for nothing to be potentially achieved.

Humans don't have amnesty.

Cylons do.



Not following this plan will allow all Cylons to save their amnesty until the moment before they are lynched. Why do you think this is better than no player having amnesty?

Well two things:

If tomorrow is claim day from everyone, all Cylons will have amnesty. Unless we lynch a human that might happen to be bad, a mislynch is virtually guaranteed.

The plan is manipulable. The Cylons could blend and then maybe fuel a witchhunt for anyone who hasn't claimed. Because god knows some of you are already in "he who opposes = FoS" mode.

This really -

my gut has a hard time understanding why peeps think rico is not civ tbh.

S~V~S wrote:Rico, the cylons die the first time they are lynched instead of someone else since they can't claim amnesty. They take one day to lynch, not two. We don';t waste days lynching the same person over.

That is the benefit. If LoRab had not had that amnesty, Nero would be alive now, which definitely would have benefited him.

I see this point and yet I still have to deny - because I'm a human and it requires me to lie.

And I don't know yet if I'm one of the final 5 (though at my usual play skill it means I'll be lynched far before this kicks in). Can you see that as well?

Can you see where the Final 5 might need that Amnesty?

Cuz I can. Even though I don't have it and I won't claim it because I don't have it.

S~V~S wrote:EPWOP~ *She WOULD HAVE BEEN lynched, not Nero.

lol - I read your other post 4 times before I said - wait no that's STILL not right maybe I should keep reading down.

Matt wrote:Players who have claimed Cylon

Lorab
MM
S~V~S
Long Con
Daisy

Polo and Drum also "claimed" Cylon, but also said it in such a way that I'm not sure it counts, so I'd like these two to reclaim starting Day 4, without the "just kiddings" and such.

So, again, and I hope we can keep this list updated... (Cylon claimers in red)

a2thezebra
bea
Black Rock
DFaraday
Drumbeats
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
G-Man
3J
juliets
Long Con
Lorab
Marmot
Matt
OA
Polo
Ricotech
SVS
Scotty
sig
Silverwolf
Sokoth
Daisy
Vompatti

Matt - fwiw - I'm never going to claim to be a cylon unless I become one of the Final 5. Because as of right now, I'm not one. And if you lynch me you are lynching a human. And I will stand up and say I'm not a cylon the whole way down. And I will ALSO stand up and say I'm a Cylon sympathizer the whole way down.

Do with that what you will.

Silverwolf wrote:Fos Ricochet-He's too opposed to a plan that benefits civs and hurts baddies. I had a town read there until this. Also, D'Faraday needs to speak up or be lynched as well.

this pikes my interest - how do you see that re: rico? What do you see that I am missing? Or is this the Cylon Amnesty thing?

I agree re: DF - I give him rope and rope - but by day 4 his posts should have more content in them for a low poster than they have had.

so say we all. - linki saved me on this one. Not gonna lie about that.


At this moment I'm 3 pages behind the current thread. Even when I was home from work - work kept me busy - there were things I had to get done tonight.


That said - I KNOW there are things I have to catch up on. And I'm half caught upish.

First of all - RIP Nero. I'm so sorry I was part of the lynch of Saul.

Second of all - I know lorab had a suspish I've not addressed enough so that she voted for me. Imma do that soon. I promise. Work has been cray cray again as per normal and it has been this thing hanging over me that I know about but haven't till now had time to address.

I was curious about drumbbeats reading me in in the last lynch as his second because I'd not remembered him suspecting me before, but I will read back him as well and see if I missed something. It's entirely possible.

Weekends are VERY work focused. Keeping up on the thread during smoke breaks from fri-sunday is a herculean task in my world.

I also know Daisy reached out to me for my sus of her during the whole blow up thing - and I never addressed that. Daisy - I appreciate that you spoke to me even when you wanted to walk away. I know it was the "only cuz it's you" scenario. My angst at you was directed because you were posting about how no one understood or helped you out when I was trying to do that. I can, in hindsight, understand how that was lost in the heat of it, but that's where my initial sus was.

As it stands right now - and behind as all get out - I have wiped your slate clean and look at what you do from here on out.

I'm still stuck in the world's worst Sunday at work. I'm going to go with Nero in light of LoRab amnesty claim. I'm sorry I've been quiet. Hellish 5.99bcarry out weekend has been hellish.

vote nero

Back to hour 12 of work with no end in sight.

Lucy not luck. Ok now that's a sign it's Time for bed.

Divides not devices. God my phone.

Yup still stand by what I said.

I believe there are civ aligned cylons and I believe the fact that *all* humans know they can die now is better for us humans as its an issue that devices us humans. Ya dig?

I don't know about lc or his motivations tbh. I have a checkered history of being Charlie Brown to his luck if ya know what I mean.

I effed up the tags. Sorry. I've got a half a foot in bed and phone posting.

Matt wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:You don't have to worry about it though Daisy. I doubt I'll continue playing here after this game is up so you can just suffer with me until then.

Yo dudette, I'd like to apologize for my outbursts. I was kind of like "wth" when you and Oa were referring to me ruining your games, it made me feel like an asshole, when really I just thought up a theory and ran with it. M'bad if it was sensitive, but as I said in my original theory, "whatevs, i'm only using things that were brought to the thread". Anyway, in case you didn't know, I'm pretty sure most everyone (if not everyone) is excited that you and ika have joined our community. I believe in the Transistor sign up thread, you and ika were even discussing hosting a game with "hybrids" and I thought that sounded hella cool. Anyway, hope you and ika stick around.

Golden wrote:A new law has been passed.

Cylon Amnesty Act: Any person may publicly admit to being a cylon and, if the declaration is true, they will have immunity from the lynch for that day. Once a person has outed themselves as a cylon, they cannot do it a second time.

Ummmmm

So like, I'm hoping the President's next move is to repeal this insane law that should not exist.

What if we're at Lylo, and suddenly a Cyclon says "Derp I'm a cylon" and we lose? Like, for real?

REVOKE THIS LAW!!

bea wrote:But - the more cylon rez ships we destroy - the better it is for us because a) The civ aligned cylons are now just like us humans. They live or die with each lynch and NK - and b) When we find Cavil we might be able to kill him. I want to kill him and his followers so badly.

Slip.

Long Con wrote:This crazy law is forever, each one of us gets to literally stop their own lynch with a simple post once in the game, be it today or on Day 14. This is our new reality, breath it in and taste it.

Super slip.

Also, I refuse to believe this silly law is forever, and hope the President does the right thing by tearing it down with her next law.[/quote


I'm super confused as to what you think I have slipped about? ]

Iso me. I've been talking about the idea of civ aligned cylons for like ever. YOU were the one I was responding to where. I first said "I'd have a rough time seeing athena as anything but civ aligned." Please go back and look.

I don't think I'm miss remembering in saying that happened before epi flipped athena. Where have I slipped? I think I've been pretty constant on my stance about the cylons.

Or obsessive. Which one is truely most likely?

keep fighting the good fight rico!

Golden wrote:No

That is sadness. I hope we get the submissions post game.

bea wrote:

S~V~S wrote:Especially since the pilots both came back again.
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I wonder how many ships there are? Someone said how many there were in the series, I think, didn't they?

I'm sooo happy the pilots came back.

I'm guessing that our Admiral Goldama has a specific amount of rez ships in his grid. And after we find them we *might* find the hub ship ala battleship style.

That said - IDK if it's right or not - but wouldn't it be cool if the Cylon's were engaged in a similar not in the thread version of searching for Galactica that we are doing with the rez ships? Since they are chasing us after all....

I'm positive that if we ask our lovely host he won't confirm or deny it - it's just a mechanic I can see being implemented in this theme.

And now I wonder about peeps who've asked where they think "we" are located....

I can't wait for matt to read this and his brain to asploade with thinking I have inside info an I'm now bad again.

oh - also - matt if you go back and look - I can think off the top of my head at least *one* person who's asked "where you think you are" while we sortie.

Spacedaisy wrote:Bea, I don't know if you read my response to your earlier posts, but did it adequately address whatever you were looking for from me?

yes. I can see how my small little "i've read the 11tybillion pages let me help you if you are lost" post might have got lost in the shit storm. But you know me and, well,beers - so when you came back and was *only* adressing the antaginistic stuff - I was all "I sent you an olive branch and you ingnored it. Maybe you did that on purpose?" And also again - well, beers. So hence my fury.

I can see how it was missed. And still the same olive branch exists. If I can help with holes - I literally spent my two days off reading EVERYFRACKING THING. I can sum up pretty good but tainted by my leanings. That said, I don't particularly think my leanings are bad.

adendum - if they NKed Starbuck I might go nuckier. Just sayin...I love Starbuck.

RIP Indi. I will keep fighting the good fight for you. I hope your win con lets you win with us dead.

Golden wrote:A new law has been passed.

Cylon Amnesty Act: Any person may publicly admit to being a cylon and, if the declaration is true, they will have immunity from the lynch for that day. Once a person has outed themselves as a cylon, they cannot do it a second time.

Good law Admiral.

I'm still not a Cylon.

SokothQultuq wrote:You know it came up briefly but it seemed like it was a topic that was either ignored but seems to be a reoccurring theme question... Are Cylons good or bad? Do they have the capacity to be either or? Are they simply just a program or more? I'm curious what some of you think. Are Cylons inherently bad because they cannot think beyond programming? Or are they truly evolved?

It might make me looked down on but I feel like they could be either. I believe that if they've learned to think like true artificial intelligence then they can also learn to think for themselves. If they can show compassion and love. Think for themselves and make decisions then perhaps they are not all bad. At what point do we set aside our anger and hate for these things and see them for what they are. Alive. But who makes that decision? Are Cylons or at least the models that look, think, and act like humans are they alive? Do they meet the scientific criteria for something that is honestly alive? I'm no scientist or biologist but someone has to know that answer.

I think the thread has been having this exact discussion since Epi flipped Athena.

fwiw - I've thought that cylons *could* be civ before Epi flipped Athena. Specifically FOR the role he flipped.

I think the peeps who think on both sides of the fence have been clearly known.

I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish here but atm, it feels too little too late. I don't mean that negatively. I don't want to shut down your talking - I want to understand where you are coming from and why you ignored my post in response to your last post before this 24 hour time that asked specific questions for specific things.

I'm sad you only responded to Matt's "are you bad" post.

Please help me and everyone else understand you better.

SokothQultuq wrote:

Matt wrote:

bea wrote:best advice I can give is just keep being you - damn how everyone else sees it.

I know this was to Silvy, but I'm takin' it for meeself.

OA - If you have a problem with my gameplay and feel like no longer playing because of it, please take it to the Mod. Thanks. Also, I take issue with your choice of words, such as "attack". I have not been "attacking" people.

SW - Please give me examples of every quote that I "took out of context". Thanks.

Klingon noob - Are you bad?

bea again - Just so you know, I might suspect you at some point down the line, but if I do, know it's with love. Right now you seem alright.

LOLOLOLOL - Really? Sure, I'm going to admit that in an open forum. I do like toast, perhaps that makes me a Toaster... Humm... would that be kind of like cannibalism? I suppose not, because toast is not actually a metal thing but the metal things are trying to be like living things. Its really confusing. Though I've met a toaster and they didn't seem half bad. Eh.. What do you think Matt? Am I a Toaster?

Imma little worried now since I responded to you and asked you specific questions - and this is the post you chose to respond to, not the one that was directed at you asking specific questions about the last post you made...

go back - find my post - answer my questions - then I can reevaluate.