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by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:28 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Diiny wrote:
Roxy wrote:
Diiny wrote:I'll spill the beans when you tell me whether or not it was your intention to provoke reactions with your threat of randomizing, bls :Mongoose:
Both -

your turn :dance:
I like to go hard and fling shit on day 1, using pressure to gauge reactions not only from the person I'm putting pressure on but from other players, too. If you felt I was being needlessly condescending or aggressive I apologise as that's not my direct intention at all. It does help get the shitstorm brewing, though.

I'm not asking you to change you to convert to those holy words in the Book of Diiny, but I'm nonetheless unapologetically cracking down on behaviour I find potentially anti-town/scummy to try to better understand the motives behind it and hence get a better idea of where I stand on you, provoking reactions for everyone in the process.

And as much as I appreciate that this is your playstyle, there's only so much clemency that being on-meta can invoke from me when that playstyle really doesn't seem that pro-town to me.
I don't think random day 1 votes is anti-town.

I think random day 2 votes and beyond are anti-town.

But day 1? No I just don't philosophically believe it.

If there were a REALLY great case, maybe I would vote for it. If there were one that was stronger than most of the day 1 cases I read, I might vote for it. But if there is one niggle of doubt about that day 1 case, one thing that might make me think that person could be wrong or could be trying to manipulate me.. YES. I would rather throw my vote on a random person than help lynch a potential civ teammate on shite reasons. How is that anti-town?

This is a philosophical argument and both sides are right in their own way.

I see your side. Can you at least see why people like rox and I might think the way we do? And still have completely civ reasons for doing like we do? As I said several posts ago, both sides are valuable to the civ cause.
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 9:19 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Views: 289044

Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

I am currently listening to Futurama. I find that music tends to wind me up and I need to wind down now.

but Futurama reminds me of Flyin' High and her Futurama game where I was Santa Claus. I miss Flyin' High. Like lots. :sigh: {/ot]
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:48 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

whether she does or not, I reserve the right to. :)
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:29 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Roxy wrote:
Diiny wrote:I should say that's more than an accusation of you being too quiet per se, it's an accusation of you being fundementally off-meta.

Sorsha also raised my eyebrow, chiming in to answer an easy question about polls and then leaving without sharing any views or making any real attempt to play mafia.

I'm also extremely unhappy with Roxy's off topic to mafia ratio. I won't be happy if you randomise at all. Day 1 is about MAKING concrete evidence through stirring shit and provoking reactions, not just waiting for it to happen and throwing your vote onto random people. :disappoint:
Seems my randomization post got a "provoking reaction" :haha:
It usually does from new peeps. Thanks for taking that bullet. :p ;)

DIINY - Sorsha does that. She's got limited time too. She responds to what's most current/on topic when she catches up.

Rox and others - tend to Day 1 Day 1. We recognise that ALL arguments are based on very little. The weakest of pings. And lacking anything concrete to go on, we reserve the right to random vote.

Some of us feel that a random vote is as logical as a super weak "I got nothing else woe is me" Day 1 vote and JUST as easily manipulated by mafia as a "random" vote. I know one player that refuses to read the roles till like day 3.

I tend to not get anything near a vibe or feeling till like day 3 myself so I understand the random. I've done it. I've done it regardless of being civ or mafia. (Because even when I'm mafia, lots of our games are two mafia teams and then I still want to find baddies, just not my baddies) It's not done, at least in my part, to with hold info. It's done to find info. Some people find info differently than others. Some jump in and look and prod and question. Some sit back and watch the prodding and questioning and go from there. BOTH are needed for the civ cause. :noble:

Different styles for different folks. That's what makes this experiment awesome! :D
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:19 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Views: 289044

Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Roxy wrote:Have I said
OT /OT
omg!!! jjj!!! more talking please!!!!!!!!! :D

Rox - yours was great, but nothing in comparision to you singing happy birthday to me. I listen to that shit like once a day. :D
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 8:15 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

FZ. wrote:Done with the catching up. I'm a little confused with all the day 0 stuff. It's my fault, so if no one wants to answer me, I'll understand, but I won't be nice about it :P

Please let me know if I got it right. There was a different day 0 for each site, and now it's hidden from us? Where was it? Was it a different thread? I read a PM inviting me for something, and when I tried to access it, I couldn't. I guess I was too late.

Why are there so few females playing? :disappoint:
I find it funny that I'm on the RYM side when I've only played 1.3 games. I must have made an impression :P Or I'm an outsider in every site, so it's easy to toss me around :pout: ....Kidding MP.
kneel4justice wrote:Voted for FZ for RYM and Roxy for Syndicate.
Because they are awesome.
:faint: :omg:
I didn't even know you were playing? :D :D :D Makes me feel even worse for missing day 0


My main suspicion at this point is Ricco. First of all, he seems to be saying a lot, without really saying anything. Even when he voiced some suspicion, it's done in an "intrigued" tone, as if he's trying to avoid confrontation. If you add to that what K4J said about how he voted at the end of day 0 on the syndicate, it's another reason to not trust him at the moment.

Regarding the whole zebra, JJJ, Epi and Sig situation, zebra comes out looking good from it, Sig doesn't look too bad either, but we'll see.
I do agree with those who said that it's not likely they are all connected, but I would like to know why Epi voted for JJJ just like that, and what does JJJ think about Epi so far.

I expect llama to have a suspect by now, but his answer when asked about it, felt okay to me.


linki: Bea is playing too? Wow, Epic game. I really should look at the list of players :blush:
awe.... lil' ole me got the epic game tag? I lurvs you too FZ!!! :hug: :hugs: :hug: :hugs:

I have a history with our dear sockhost. As limited as my free time is, I've only missed 1 game he's hosted. Like ever. Even back in the prog days. I just can't say no to my adopted baby brother. :sigh: That said, I have so little free time. Like less than when we played death note. So don't be surprised if you don't hear lots from me.

As for rico - he seems fairly rico for me atm. I don't have a good feel for his civ vs his bad game as I've only played a few with him and tbh, I don't remember where he ended on any of them. (This is my fault not his) but his meta seems to be what I'd expect from him.


Also - re: the polls - I wish one of us on the TS side, had been as rententive as MM and grabbed a screen shot. I'm wondering currently if, since both polls were related, that the "winner" (which ever one of three had the most common votes) is the thing that actually happens. This will be interesting to see play out.

Also - re - someone asking about threads that blank out being regular. It's not common. It doesn't happen every game. BUT MP did something similar in his Fight Club game where we had to pick which city we would travel to in order to fight each time till a mechanic finally merged us all into one thread. When we were in one city we couldn't see what was happening in another city. In order to find out we'd have to travel back to that city and read back. With this in mind, I'd say...um...maybe.... not vote for any night option that could be tied to the song "Cities"? I know kids. It hurts me to say it. Cities is srrsly one of my most favorite Talking Heads songs. But with these two blacked out threads and trying to put the pieces back together, maybe that's just too much random?

good god it's weird being in linki AND catching up. lol. Love having people around when I am. I'm just not used to it!!!
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:57 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Choutas wrote:
espers wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
Metalmarsh89 wrote: Seaside was the most active poster and asked a ton of questions.
Interesting. I don't think he posted once yet in the main game.
he's currently at the nrl grand final down in sydney, he mentioned this in the day 0 thread.

one thing that might be of note: he asked strawhenge if he had any special abilities in that thread. i asked him about it and he appeared not to know about the infodumping rules (or any of what was mentioned in the first posts of the signup thread)

choutas replied to this exchange, saying that scumslips weren't very common and that seaside's original question read to him as frivolous/banter. that seemed a bit incongruous to me, i'd like choutas to explain it. i might be misremembering the particulars though, wish i could look back over it
He tried the regular rym opening move. Some of them are "Are you scum?", "Do you have a special ability", "You're town?". In the earlier games it was pretty wild "Tell me your role", "Give me a reason not to shoot you today" etc. Seaside is old school. He's still listening to 2Pac and Biggie while you guys have moved to Nicki and Kanye.
I think I might adore you. That is all. :)
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:53 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Views: 289044

Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Hey RYMers, let me give you a little insight on some things that are either polarizing or unpopular on The Syndicate, so you can do them even more to drive them nuts. :haha:

~ rainbow lists
~ broadcasting your town reads
~ ISO analyses

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

I don't find any of that annoying. But yea. Others do. Lots.

Except maybe the broadcasting town reads. Targets after all.

That said, this game is one mafia team and a sk and an indy right? So - yea. Not as big a deal.

More linki: OT Sadness. :( you made :bea: a :( :bea:

linki ROX!!!!!!!! :hugs: :hug: :hugs: :hug:
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:49 am
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Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

TheFloyd73 wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Ricochet wrote:Is banter early voting common habit on RYM? I'm oscillating between reading bcornett24's vote as such and wanting to hear more from him on why he desired to make such an early vote for no serious reasons.
RVS (random voting stage) is very common on RYM, and generally anywhere where vote changes are commonplace. I hope y'all are ready. :dark:
RYM is random in general
Yay!! I should play there. Off topic is my favorite topic!!
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:46 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
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Views: 289044

Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have my doubts that most mafia teams would be concerned enough with a "Dusk 0" poll that they'd deliberately coordinate their votes beyond a couple people maybe on any one person.
I can testify from experience that a) its not unheard of but also b) it's really really really not a good move to make. I remember one game I played on another site where all but one of our team voted for an advantage to one of our teammates on day 0. After she flipped bad, the civs picked us off one by one. Except the one guy who didn't vote with us. He laughed at us bts. He laughed lots. I still hear his laughter.
by bea
Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:14 am
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: [END] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)
Replies: 9232
Views: 289044

Re: [DAY 1] Talking Heads Mafia (RYM #90)

Hi guys! sorry I'm late to the party. Friday/Saturday are the worst days in the world for me to have free time from work.

Can't say I'm surprised no one said "OMG, Bea should totes be our assistant CEO! She rocks my world!" But still....I'm a little sad. :pout:
Ya'll forgot I have the two skills most needed to keep a CEO happy. I make both an incredible cup of coffee *and* cocktails to make you wanna kiss yo momma. :noble: And I cook. :p
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:
Rbzmncaeaei wrote:No to mm and no to llama.

linki: And no to HamburgerBoy, haha.
One was me! :D
I didn't think to count Day 0 since it's, well...gone, so that makes five posts that caught me off guard. And you are incorrect as well 3J, because three of them are yours counting Day 0. Here's a little RYM Records exclusive context for those in the dark.

3J's opening post in Day 0 set off an alarm for me and some others, (I believe I was the second or third to point out how suspicious it seemed, and I believe someone even asked 3J if he was asking to be lynched) as he basically excused himself to be somewhat absent for the game, his reasons being that he was on vacation and that he also has another game going on. When I confronted him he responded by saying that he's normally a more minimal poster than most. I responded by saying that if he's known for being a somewhat minimal poster than why bother excusing his even more minimal behavior? But I let him off the hook in the same response because I have been known for my tunnel vision and it has gotten civilians lynched before. It's also interesting that I'm the first person from RYM Day 0 to mention this. When Bernie Sanders Matt F asked if anything of note happened on Day 0, I found it odd that Golden responded with a no, but (in the same post) since he seemed to have missed the end of that day I'm not sure if he missed my exchange with 3J or any of his posts that day. Maybe he's off the hook, maybe not. But again, it is a little disconcerting to me that I am the only one to have mentioned this exchange, even if it was a light suspicion at the time.

Now I try to base my suspicions off of individual scum-reads rather than observing what seems like a scum team, but something caught me off guard during Dusk 0 that was very hard to ignore with or without the context of 3J the day before. Enter sig.
sig wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Ricochet wrote:I'd like to recommend myself for the Syndicate CEO assistant position. Facts are I'm well-versed in music, with an acquired taste in significant eclectic genre.

As for who I'm voting, I'd like to hear some pitches first. Give me some insight into your music preferences, stuff you're passionate about, etc..

linki: Deflecting the question, ey, Marshy? :suspish:
Kansas is the greatest band ever.

I am disqualified, aren't I? :sigh:
:clap:
Kansas is great I will vote for you just for that reason alone.

Epignosis
JaggedJimmyJay
sig votes for Epignosis providing as decent of a reason for it as any (Kansas is pretty damn awesome, but I digress) but then votes for 3J providing no reason whatsoever, not even a humorous one or the simple explanation that it was a random vote. It comes out of nowhere, and it is noteworthy that this is both sig's first post and the first vote for 3J. But then it gets better...
Epignosis wrote:
sig wrote: :clap:
Kansas is great I will vote for you just for that reason alone.

Epignosis
JaggedJimmyJay
You just won my vote. Voting sig and 3J.
Epignosis votes for sig I suppose because he voted for him as well as mutual appreciation of Kansas. But then we have another inexplicable vote for 3J that is neither explained nor noted other than the vote itself. And now, enter 3J.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:With all due respect to our honorary RYMers (they're super neat), we should band together as an RYM gang and ensure the Syndicateers don't pick our CEO for us just based on who they know. :P

I'll vote for one of my biggest influences MacDougall, and the guy that gets night killed every ten minutes because baddies are terrified Epignosis.

I'm going to try to use colors when I bold my votes because I absolutely cannot see the plain white bold.
I'll be fair, outside of the vote for Epignosis there's nothing suspicious here. But his reason for voting for him seems fake in the greater context. This came about half an hour after Epig's vote for 3J but 3J doesn't reference this, instead picking a whole new reason to vote for Epig, which is humorous. It just doesn't seem genuine to me. And then....this.....
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:But really though llama, are you bad?
This is why first impressions are often correct. I've tried, I've really tried, but even when I block out 3J's post excusing him from activity (which is now especially suspicious since he seems far from inactive, as if he was excusing potential inactivity from fear of slipping some susfishes) in Day 0, as well as the context of his inexplicable votes, (which resulted in his win) this post is just...oh man.

It comes twelve minutes after the last post that was in reference to the suspicions (which I remind you, were sarcastic for crying out loud) that bwt had for llama. That exchange didn't set any alarms off for anyone until 3J made this post. It comes off as unbelievably opportunistic. Take a close look at that page, the posts, the times they were posted, and so on, put everything in context, and tell me JJJ isn't a decent suspect at the moment. And again, the reason I avoid group suspicions is that if one of the people you suggest turns out to be good, your credibility is destroyed and whoever else you mentioned gets off the hook whether they're good or not. But I can't help but feel a possible JJJ/Epignosis/sig thing going on. No hard conclusions yet, I'm trying to play it safe and I may end up voting for someone absent if I'm not confident enough and/or I see some good defenses for this. We shall see.

Wow. RBZ! I think I got those first few letters right? Is it cool to call you that? I need nicknames to function.

That is the most well thought out day 1 case I've ever seen! Color me super impressed.
I've only played one game with JJJ and he was civ in that game. He was very vocal while he lived though so I can see where you are coming from here.

Ok -more catching up to do.....

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