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No worries golden - ask anyone. I blamed LC not you. If you weren't so convinced I agreed to what LC did, you never would have did what you did. I KNOW if you thought I was civ, you wouldn't have gambled my life like that.Golden wrote:Sorry for getting you lynched bea.
Also - it feels like you getting me lynched really started to break open the game. We were all important in our own way right?Golden wrote:For the sad Bea.
Diiny wrote:As promised.
Yes, that is how you pronounce Qu'est-ce que c'est.
Proving yet again....the most dangerous person in an MP game is............MP.Sloonei wrote:Town MVP: SVS
Scum MVP: MovingPictures07
makes sense in hindsite - new peeps - fresh eyes yada yada yada. I never questioned LC could be bad because he was SO FREEKIN' LAME day 1.MovingPictures07 wrote:I know, wasn't it crazy? It seems the sites were better at reading folks from the opposite site this game!MacDougall wrote:I found it amusing how Syndicate civs vociferously defended LC and them RYM civs did the same for me aside from Strawhenge who by golly I thought I could convince. Black Rock was ready to vote to save me literally asked in BTSC and I got called into a meeting 10 minutes before deadline and came back minutes after it haha. Wilgy convinced her not to bcuz plans or something.
I agree with the newtmot.Metalmarsh89 wrote:I think Jay should host that one.MovingPictures07 wrote:Uh, we better!Russtifinko wrote:RYMers, you all are super fun. A bit intense with the posting rate, maybe, but really, really fun. Hopefully we can get together for some more in the future.
I hope all of the RYMers enjoyed this game, the behemoth that it was, and please feel free to stick around for as many games as you'd like. We have plenty of games that I am sure you all would enjoy.
We'll make sure to arrange a formal crossover again in the future as well.
lol - and here i thought the dog was learning new tricks.Epignosis wrote:Thank you 3J. The sheer amount of effort you can squeeze into a task such as this baffles me even after having witnessed it before. I really don't know how you do it.JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Massive props/thanks to Epignosis, who's legacy was a massive impact after his death.
And I'd like to point out to k4j and FZ., who suspected me early on because I was quiet, that sometimes...just sometimes...a person stays out of the way because he has an awesome role that like, skips night kills altogether.
I miss this..Golden wrote:I cannot.Diiny wrote:My ridiculous role that I somehow lost with:
-Absorb powers used against me; otherwise unaffected by ALL NIGHT ACTIONS. EVEN KILLS.
-Unlynchable when forum ratio is even on day phase
-Two kills when forum ratio is even at night
-Real live wire
RETRACT ALL YOUR PREVIOUS COMPLIMENTS.
My only compliment is how great your Psycho Killer cover was, and unless you absorbed the power of vocaroo awesomeness from JJJ, I think that one is on you.
can a sad sad 
please get a link?MovingPictures07 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:Day 8: By the Way, Which One's Pink?
Day 8 has ended. TheFloyd73 has been lynched. He was Life During Wartime.
It is now Day 9. You have 48 hours to lynch someone.
Matt F wrote:You know sometimes when you hit "submit" on a post, but it doesn't post right away, and instead it shows you other comments that have appeared since you originally started writing out your post?bcornett24 wrote:What does linki mean, Ive seen this all over the place, an precise definition would be appreciated. There is a ton of lingo in this game and I often check mafia wiki first, I didn't see this.
I will copy the first part of my post into my final case for DrWilgy when it is done so it is a complete post.
Well, when that happens, typically a player will type out "Linki" and then respond to those posts you see that have suddenly appeared.
As an example. My above post I posted towards Russ, then I hit "submit", but it showed me Floyd's post voting for MM. So I replied with a "Linki" and responded to Floyd.
Wow, I think I made that way too complicated. Can someone with some teaching skillz help me out here? Haha
:feb:sock tends to be the most bloody executioner. all hail GLOWCLOUDIMEANMP #this would have cracked lorab up.Strawhenge wrote:Apropos of nothing, for the record, I'm still really wary of people who are certain that none of Psycho Killer or MovingPictures's victims were scum. I don't know what that would implicate, but I think it's really weird that people are so sure that none of the considerable group of people who have not died by scum's hands were indeed scum.
Linki Matt: Understood.
Strawhenge wrote:;_;
bioshock...MovingPictures07 wrote:Epignosis wrote:It's complicated. I was Mafia that got recruited by a civilian, betrayed my entire team, with all of them but one dying in one Night, my civilian master turned last man standing, and then I got recruited by somebody else.Ricochet wrote:Not sure what Russ tried to mention with the Bioshock reference, considering that he said Devin was SK?! What kind of alliance was that? How can you have a long term, civ-inclined, alliance with an SK? How can his alignment back then be indicative of his civvieness here?
Good times.
*weeps* I STILL don't understand what all went down in that game and I made it to the end of it. Sort of. 
Strawhenge wrote:why isnt anyone answering me
im a person too
I do t know jjjs allignment, but I a civ. Everything being used against me is because lc did it to me. Question my vote for sure, the timing was odd given how things shook out, but I voted exactly where I said I was probably going to vote earlier in the day and under pressure of work and unable to keep up. I never asked for lc to set me up then say he didn't believe it and then end up being bad. I never agrreed to it. I am not lcs teammate. Golden, I'm not bad. I don't know what I have to do to get you the no concider the idea that he was using me and it hurts me that you aren't even listening to me or responding to anything I'm saying.Golden wrote:Epi, right now my rainbow list has you as my strongest town read. That is just context for why I'm asking you specifically this question, it is not intended as flattery to get me the answer I want.
I want to know, what is your view on whether or not the whole JJJ/LC thing could be a designed gig to create credit for others (such as JJJ and bea).
Ok. But I'm a civ. So you are voting a civ. I live how it occurs to none of the people who know and play with me regularly what a nub and easy mark I was for lc. That's cool though. Do what you must.Epignosis wrote:This post is about zebra and 3J. It's complex, so I won't describe it. Look at it yourself.
LC talks a lot to 3J about bolds and colors though. He's a graphic designer, but it seems a like a pointless discussion to have.
Tells Rico "Good eye" and "Roxy must be punished."
First interaction with Golden.
The next post is his big reveal that his bea suspicion is fake:
At this stage, Long Con doesn't expect to get lynched. What I don't understand is why he would vote someone in the same post that he exposed his (failed) gambit. Oh well.Long Con wrote:I have to get ready and leave for work soon, so it's time to cast a real vote. The bea vote was actually fake. I thought, since votes are changeable, I'd make a fake case and see if I could catch any opportunistic baddies trying to latch on to it and follow the vote. It didn't really bear fruit; looking over BWT's reasons for voting bea, he is coming from a completely different angle. The truth is, bea's behaviour is pretty normal for her, and I don't suspect her much at all.FZ. wrote:LC's vote for Bea did strike me as fake...
My real vote today will go to sig. Despite the reasonable explanation he had for my original suspicion of him (that he was crafting his posts too much, in a baddie way), I've found a few of his reactions suspicious. His reaction that I was "distancing" from him when I forgot he was the third player involved in an earlier discussion was bizarre, as was his assertion that I (and others) are "desperate to try and get him lynched".
sig, saying we're desperate to try and get you lynched strikes me in two ways, neither of them making me feel comfortable about you. On one hand, it's overdefensive and paranoid, and on the other, it's a way to buffalo us out of voting for you... because who wants to looks "desperate" to lynch someone on Day 1?
It's not much, but it's the behaviour I found most suspicious today, and it's time for me to lock in a vote.
Sorry for using you, bea!
But LC defends bea out of it. He goes from pretending to suspect bea (falsely) to defending bea.
I'm voting bea now.
I have no idea if JJJ was LC's teammate or not. But I know I wasn't. You were as convinced as I was that bad LC wouldn't be that sloppy, yet because I was his target day 1 I'm his teammate? You may be correct about JJJ, not having BTSC, I don't know. But you are incorrect about me. I am a civ. I may be the most gullible, willing to try to find he good in everyone, nubbiest civ that ever lived but I am a civ. I do not fear a lynch. Like at all.Golden wrote:Right back at you buddy. I think you are Long Con's teammate, and he was happy to get out to do A World Reborn, and I'm voting for JJJ right now.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Golden -- Bad vibes. In the midst of protecting LC, he took the opportunity to go after me for behavior that makes no sense if I'm bad. I think he knows that, and saw an opportunity to capitalize. That's exactly what I was looking for from someone, and Golden ended up being the culprit. When I prodded him to tell me what he thinks I might be doing as a baddie, he had nothing. He even insinuates that he doesn't have to have anything. That's not a good look.
PS - I've been Long Con's partner before and pulled exactly the same move with him, and we were both willing to do it, because we figured it would create the best cover ever. I don't buy your approach at all. If I had a kill, I'd kill you dead right now.
But, if you want to lynch me today, go ahead. I willingly encourage it. It will be in the town's interests to see how you are willing to do something zany and in the process frame someone you know is a good town asset. I think it would be useful for them to see my alignment.
By the way, I'm calling bea out as one of you as well. You, LC, bea, a long term plan from the start. Whoopee.
um....does this frighten anyone else as much as it does me given the hosts request for and specific statement that they don't like ties during the day 0 poll?MovingPictures07 wrote:Sorsha wrote:Between everyone or the two in the tie?MovingPictures07 wrote:In the event of a tie, the player to be lynched will be randomized among those with the most votes.
I prolly would have just gotten or 
as a response though. 
That is the most marrmoty marrmot post ever.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Floyd is a town read.
what rox said. That was beautiful rico! Thank you for sharing it!!Roxy wrote:Ricochet wrote:Oh no, not bim beri birdi zimbra. RIP BWT. Mislynched on D1 for fixating on players' tone/wording and seeming to make easy votes. Same as he ever was.
Also, this is the least crappy version I was able to record this morning:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s04db6bt72PI
What beautiful music to start the day off with thanks Ricochet.
Sucky result somehow I am not surprised.
We should discuss the transfer of said conversations.....birdwithteeth11 wrote:Well right now I'm riding back from an amazing Mexican dinner with Daisy driving and MP being super tipsy from an enormous sangria. I recorded two drunk conversations of him already and he only knows of one! :Pbea wrote:RIP Teefies. I'm sorry you dieded.
on the plus side, you can point and laugh at sockhost now while he stresses out and you enjoy your vaca! 
It was the conversation that was happening at the time and I was a) drinking and b) excited to actually engage in a realtime conversation. I wasn't trying to steer anything. I was adding my viewpoint - I will admit probably more agressively than I would have say...now...when I've not had beers - but no. I wasn't trying to thread lead in any way.Ricochet wrote:Yes and when he implied that he achieved something by getting questioned for it, I asked him if that is the kind of desirable content that you'd expect to achieve. "I voted randomly and got suspected for it and that was in fact my goal". Erh?HamburgerBoy wrote:The very first vote on aokiji/motel was, but at least on RYM that would be considered an obvious joke vote. In fact, it was your questioning of that vote that he used as saying it achieved something, that being to educate Syndicaters on the dark and mysterious voting rituals of day 1 RYM. It was basically his own type of "That's how I roll".Ricochet wrote:It's more a read than case, which is why it shows to you as "assorted facts".
I disagree that his RVS is that trivial, because of stuff I mentioned:
-- it was wildly unreasoned, by comparisong with most of the other RVS's
-- he later implied it achieved something and I have no idea what that is
You didn't clarify the bolded part about his vote for BWT and why that means something to you.
The bolded part was, as you noticed, more a fact that I reviewed in my read. But to also answer what intepretation I'm giving it, I'm not fully sure; I don't even fully understand all the charges he brought up in that post, aside from BWT's vote being easy and potentially buddying up to JJJ.
If I were to split this chain of sussing, then:
lvl 1 - bea doesn't find that Day 1 brings anything consistent for properly suspecting players, so she uses to refrain from such activities in general | I don't agree with this per se and, as you can read in my read of her, whilst I acknowledge that this is usual meta for her, I'm wary how she pushed this stance in this game, ahead of any actual activity of any sort in this directin
lvl 2 - BWT disagrees with her stance (although also acknowledging her background) and votes her for that
lvl 3 - B24 suspects and votes BWT for what he see as an easy vote, plus other charges I already said I don't quite comprehend (the "direct attention in a very specific direction" or "combination of forced interaction as well as suspicion direction").
If there's something in this vote / exchange that partially adds to what makes me wary of B24, it's that I can't fully grasp what he's aiming for with his reads or input.
You jerk!Long Con wrote:I have to get ready and leave for work soon, so it's time to cast a real vote. The bea vote was actually fake. I thought, since votes are changeable, I'd make a fake case and see if I could catch any opportunistic baddies trying to latch on to it and follow the vote. It didn't really bear fruit; looking over BWT's reasons for voting bea, he is coming from a completely different angle. The truth is, bea's behaviour is pretty normal for her, and I don't suspect her much at all.FZ. wrote:LC's vote for Bea did strike me as fake...
My real vote today will go to sig. Despite the reasonable explanation he had for my original suspicion of him (that he was crafting his posts too much, in a baddie way), I've found a few of his reactions suspicious. His reaction that I was "distancing" from him when I forgot he was the third player involved in an earlier discussion was bizarre, as was his assertion that I (and others) are "desperate to try and get him lynched".
sig, saying we're desperate to try and get you lynched strikes me in two ways, neither of them making me feel comfortable about you. On one hand, it's overdefensive and paranoid, and on the other, it's a way to buffalo us out of voting for you... because who wants to looks "desperate" to lynch someone on Day 1?
It's not much, but it's the behaviour I found most suspicious today, and it's time for me to lock in a vote.
Sorry for using you, bea!
For 2 days I've been trying to figure out where the hell that came from. I was all "maybe his vote was forced?" "no that can't be we haven't had a night yet." "I don't think he's bad, but omg wtf is up with LC's lack of reasoning for voting me??!! How does he not know me well enough to know I'm always indecisive day 1?" I even felt bad because I was totally trying to shame the super lame vote. I'm going with appropriate. Even after sleeping off the beer, I stand by my belief that it was a lame vote.thellama73 wrote:Question for the group:
Was Bea's reaction to one early, changeable vote an overreaction or an appropriate reaction?
Discuss.
Current track: Brian Eno - Sparrowfall (3) (1:24)
Roxy wrote:Seeing the melding of communities is going to be so fucking awesome! Some styles will be the same and others so different. It is exciting!
This will be another post Dii will be hating me for.
Linky bea
I get where you are coming from. I do. I am just saying I'm not there yet for these reasons. Maybe down the road I will be there, but I don't feel it yet. Ya know?Diiny wrote:I guess the crux of this is that I personally don't see 'OT and random voting' as just a trivial concern, even if it is on-meta, nor do I consider someone being an asset when they're town a good reason to not question someone's towniness (although MP said that one time and turned out to be town, maybe it's a TS thing.)bea wrote:No. And I'm not sure yet if she's civ or scum. that's exactly my point. I don't know yet. IF she is civ she's a great asset. I would hate to get rid of someone who would be awesome to our cause for something so simple as she's OT and she went random.Diiny wrote:I appreciate that you're used to the strategy, but alongside a lack of any other meaningful contributions it seems more likely to me that roxy played it not out of the intrinsic value you see in the strategy but due to the benefits it would give scum to play it that I mentioned earlier.bea wrote:our track record - across several sites - is not statistically as good as yours is claiming to be.
I go into games assuming that unless the town is DAMN lucky - we are prolly lynching a civ.
I know Rox from several forums as well. I know she has the same experience as I have had. I don't yet know her alligmnment, but I understand where she is coming from day 1.
As for why - I'm guessing to fleedge out the new site members. It's an OLD argument for us on this site. And sometimes it pops up again even with experienced peeps who've played 11tybillion games with all of us. (*coff*sockhost*coff*)
BUT - you at least can see the other side. It's more than some do. I applaud you for that. Also - I don't think rox was doing it for scum reasons. I think she was also stirring the pot to see what shook out - and you were what shook out.
i so don't know what "get me, fam?" means, I just wanted to look cool. God being an old lady sucks. someone give me new slang that doesn't make me look lame!! I'm tired of my staff laughing at me!!! I'm good with language, I swear I won't nub it!!
So the logical question that follows is: Has she had any helpful content besides this apparent trap/fleedge strategy in your opinion?
"Get me, fam?" translates approximately to "I do so hope I've made myself clear; is that the case, family?"
Rox spent a lot of time in MY home mafia forum. Hedville. And it's like the forgotten step child of the rest of our forums. We were all about the zany OT and the fun. Our motto was srrsbns is NOT our bnss. I can't judge her allignment because it's day 1 and day 1 is kinda a wash while it's going down. After the lynch, after the night phase - then we can talk.
Let us see if she a) random votes b) who it's for and c) if anyone else goes along with it.
If 3 other people "random" there, I might look her way. If she "random" votes and it's all by it's self, I might not.
Srrsly? Lamest day 1 vote ever LC. I haven't stated at all who I think is civ with confidence. My whole argument is I don't know yet who is or isn't . It's like you aren't even reading my posts....Long Con wrote:Bea has opinions about who is Civvie, but none about who is bad. A Mafia member knows every Civvie out there, so can proclaim their trust with confidence. I think bea is Mafia, and I'm going to put my vote on her for now.
*votes bea*
Now I know I adore you. That and the post you made just after this one.Choutas wrote:There is no reason to defend RVP imo. Again that's a genuine strategy and it isn't much of a personal playstyle when maybe up to 10 players pursue it on day(me included). As for your aggressiveness it may be how you roll but personal experience has shown me that aggressiveness is more related to townie behavior than scum behavior. A townie is a more likely to make an accusation, rally a lynch and take the blame for it than a scummer. Even vocal scum who are rarer than vocal townies on rym tend to have a sense of neutrality and ask for others' opinions to reinforce their case.Diiny wrote:This is how Roxy responded to me AND how I responded to a bunch of allegations, yet you've defended me a couple of times. What's up?Choutas wrote:JaggedJimmyJay wrote:It's never good when someone pulls the "that's how I roll" card.Choutas wrote:Rico's reaction looks a bit forced and unconvincing.
Let's say I have feeling about you or to put it in a more concrete manner I think your playstyle does more good than bad.
The worst thing that could happen on day 1 is to not have enough data to link on day 2 after the first lynch/nightkill.
No. And I'm not sure yet if she's civ or scum. that's exactly my point. I don't know yet. IF she is civ she's a great asset. I would hate to get rid of someone who would be awesome to our cause for something so simple as she's OT and she went random.Diiny wrote:I appreciate that you're used to the strategy, but alongside a lack of any other meaningful contributions it seems more likely to me that roxy played it not out of the intrinsic value you see in the strategy but due to the benefits it would give scum to play it that I mentioned earlier.bea wrote:our track record - across several sites - is not statistically as good as yours is claiming to be.
I go into games assuming that unless the town is DAMN lucky - we are prolly lynching a civ.
I know Rox from several forums as well. I know she has the same experience as I have had. I don't yet know her alligmnment, but I understand where she is coming from day 1.
As for why - I'm guessing to fleedge out the new site members. It's an OLD argument for us on this site. And sometimes it pops up again even with experienced peeps who've played 11tybillion games with all of us. (*coff*sockhost*coff*)
BUT - you at least can see the other side. It's more than some do. I applaud you for that. Also - I don't think rox was doing it for scum reasons. I think she was also stirring the pot to see what shook out - and you were what shook out.
i so don't know what "get me, fam?" means, I just wanted to look cool. God being an old lady sucks. someone give me new slang that doesn't make me look lame!! I'm tired of my staff laughing at me!!! I'm good with language, I swear I won't nub it!!
So the logical question that follows is: Has she had any helpful content besides this apparent trap/fleedge strategy in your opinion?
"Get me, fam?" translates approximately to "I do so hope I've made myself clear; is that the case, family?"
I tend not to have suspicions on day 1. That's the issue with me personally. I read everyone at face value till they give me a reason not to.FZ. wrote:Bea, if you have the slightest suspicion, wouldn't it be better to throw your vote that way instead of voting randomly? There are more civvies than baddies in the game, so a random vote has a higher likelihood of getting civvies dead. If you vote according to your suspicion, even if you end up lynching a townie, it gets discussion going, you can see how others respond to it, and more.
linki: Diiny, the backing off was from Ricco, and I'm backing off a little. I want to follow other paths as well.
still not used to people being around when I am... Get me fam? 
