The Syndicate

Bah. totally played. You guys suck. congrats baddies. Sorry tranq. I can't help it in paranoid. This is like twice now. I think I should be all I'm convinced tranq is bad. He must be a civ. *facepalm*

Ok. Luke it is then. Here's hoping he's bad.

I boom and tranq agreeing about luke is worrisome to me in ways I can't quite find words for.

I'm stuck at work and dying of the plauge still.

Vote ends when we all vote.

I guess I can go with a luke vote but I'm nervous. I still think tranq or boom is bad but if we can't come to concensus on them I guess luke is ok.

Ebwop are serious. Not or leave. What the hell phone?

Grrr. Tranq. I can't tell if you or leave serious or if you know I am easily manipulated.

After all of this, where do you feel the vote is best served ?

outside of tranq boom was my next bad go to. I just felt I had more to work with with tranq and boom was secondary.

If you feel differently that;s cool too.

I am holding my vote till I hear from the accused and I have to vote.

rico - I get it.


all around. I just got extra excited ya know...


I am looking forward to seeing what you have to say when I wake up again because my laptop is battary dying.


also my thinking beers have moved past thinking..


so it's best to see this tomorrow.

Enrique wrote:It's the best case you could make out of his posts, but the thing is, there's so few of them and we need to be sure You're right, we're gonna have to see how he responds, but in general he's just being such a nub that I'd think he would be more involved as a baddie. There is a chance that he's exactly as clueless as he's acting so far in the game.

and you know what im gonna iso look damn right now since it looks like such an easy job

rico - you played with him in the HV days.

You played with him in the LP days and the the Piano days and the Rev days.

Do you really REALLY REALLY thin that a duchie is that uninvolved unless he thinks he can float on by as a baddie?

Really? really rico??

You've played with the duchies across forums. Do you really think he would intentionally be at least as nub as I am - if he were civ??

Do you think the duchie honnor would allow him to be as nub as near death civ bea - if he were civ? do you think in one little second that if he were a vanilla civ, he would have played better than he has? I personally think that if tranq had been given a vanilla civ card in this game, he'd have had a lot more to say than he has.

look - I made a case on tranq.

I'd like opinoins of yes it's a good case or no it's a suck case.

I'd like tranq to respond to it.

Matt F wrote:

bea wrote:matt - look back at who these discussions have happened with - he resonds to boomslang. Like his whole 2 pets 1 sound thing was in reply to boom. I think if tranq is bad, boom *might* be his teammate, but I've not looked at boom iso at like all and I'd like to find tranq out first. bad duchie is bad.

I haven't played with Tranq all that much so I don't know what's common for him but I also suspected him (and Wilgy, derp) because of their Zebra votes. I thought they might be on a team but obvi not. As for Boom, the only ping I've gotten off him was when he went after newbie Luke at the beginning of the game for the "no lynch" thing, but then took his vote off of him once he learned how new Luke was.

Anyway you have way more experience with Tranq then I do, bea, does he typically speak with his teammates directly in thread or does he avoid them when bad? I'm pretty sure when I have played with him, he's posted way more then he has this game whether civ or bad, so I don't know what to think.

What do you think of Floyd, bea?

That bit about boom is secondary. IDK if it's right or not. Just was what I thought when i was ISO ing him that his responses were mostly toward boom.

I'd still rather catch the bird in our hand.

What do you think of Tranq??

BTW - he called wilgly and you as most likely civ the day before wilgly was NKed. You can thank m later for taking the NK that's coming for me.

yea - I get all that - I really do - but this might be my one contribution. And for god's sake - tranq looks bad as fuck.

I mean - just put in your head he's *at least* as experienced as I am. (He's AT LEAST as nub as the queen nub)

If I came out of that ISO like that - what would you think?

I'm not saying vote right now. I WANT him to respond to this. I look forward to it with great glee.

And in the mean time - ISO other people. I would ISO boom then luke and floyd. It's prolly one of them but not both of them.

I was just really happy I made a case, totally built on the case zeeb started. And I don't often case make.

I am extra excited about it because it's outside of my normal wheel house.

I'd still like you to actually respond rico to what I've said.

Because thinking more - it feels like you are trying to dismiss a potentially good case I made.

I was never saying vote right away.

I was saying doesn't what I say make some sense? you make me sad that you didn't see that tbh.

matt - look back at who these discussions have happened with - he resonds to boomslang. Like his whole 2 pets 1 sound thing was in reply to boom. I think if tranq is bad, boom *might* be his teammate, but I've not looked at boom iso at like all and I'd like to find tranq out first. bad duchie is bad.

I gave up rereading the thread for ISO's - tech is really hard for me.

Tranq ISO:

Tranq wrote:Bea

Nub early day 1 vote for me. Yes. Hi tranq.

Tranq wrote:A no lynch sounds rather boring. How about a 13-way tie?

You know who likes ties? Bad Dutchies. That's who.

Tranq wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:I saw a boomslang... I wonder where it went.

I know where it went

Tranq wrote:I'm moving my vote away from Bea.


Who should i vote for?

Back to back posts. Not anything added to discussion. Offers his vote for sale. Still day 1.

Tranq wrote:Sure why not.

Revenge-vote for Choutas.

Wait? Wot? Did Choutas vote Tranq day 1? I am confuszzled by his revenge vote here. (So rereading the whole thread would have helped here) It is interesting in hindsite though how he stays away from borract who was the leader and votes another vanilla civ for "revenge reasons" keeping his name right there fresh in people's minds.

Tranq wrote:Rude. I'm in the top 10 posters this game!

Rude. Except you haven't said anything. Nothing. Look at it - keep looking at your following posts. You've posted a lot and said nothing.No suspects, no suspicions, no cases - just going with the flow. Only bad duchies behave that way. Hell, I've been dying with the plauge and I've been more active.

Tranq wrote:That's a silly question. If i move my vote to bcornett24, it would be 6 to 3, so i'd have to answer with a no.

Tranq wrote:

Boomslang wrote:why the Choutas vote other than simple revenge?

I asked who to vote for and DrWilgy responded.

Two Pets in one Sound.

So these two posts reminded me that doing an ISO of tranq is redundant because zeeb already ISOed all this! It's why I voted for him the day zeebs was lynched in the first freekin' place.

That last post is crypic as fuck given how our lynches have turned out.

DUCHIE - YOU HAVE SOME SPLAININ' TO DO!

Tranq wrote:Chou is the 2nd Pet

Again - hindsite being 50/50 Chou was a vanilla civ.

Tranq wrote:Temp-voting Zebra for now. Vote may change when i'm actually able to read through the thread, hopefully later today.

This is the lynch where zeeb and tranq were neck and neck.....
and then we have this post lynch....

Tranq wrote:

Boomslang wrote:I don't like how Wilgy is deciding to step back after the bad lynch result, but I really don't like how Tranq just shrugged off his Zebra vote as temporary very early in the day, then never bothered to explain it or move it to someone else. It was a close lynch, and when he saw the momentum gathering against him, I think he figured it'd be better to lay low and maintain his advantage than try to defend himself.

I ended up being afk for the rest of the day. Beer-related reasons

I have a gut civ read on DrWilgy and Enrique. No idea on who's bad so far.

You missed the lynch where you were the second most vote getter for beer related reasons. You have no idea who's bad on like day 2 of a speed game. REALLY? You? the great and powerful Tranq have NO idea who is bad? I call bullshit right the fuck here.

You are so bad. BAD BAD BAD DUCHIE!!!

Tranq wrote:Choutas. Because he voted for someone i think is civ (DrWilgy) and because Enrique (who also sounds civ) voted him.

Day 3 - day fucking 3 and I have more of a clue as to what's going on than you do and I'm dying from the plauge?? REALLY???

So bad. YOU ARE SO BAD.

I DARE YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG.

RIP Wilgy.

RIP Choutus. I'm sorry I was wrong about you.

So, today is the first day I've felt more alive than dead. Imma reading this wopping 11 page thread now.

I'm so sorry I was such a non-entity for so long. I didn't intend on catching the plauge when I signed up to play this.

Before I go back and read, I still want to say quiet tranq freeks me out. I dislike it. LOTS. He will gain my final vote on that alone if a) I don't find something better or b) He starts playing.

K. Cool.

Lol. Yea. I guess if it's important choutus will reiterate in English before I throw my sick ass in bed?

I don't understand the spanish.

Putting my vote on choutas for now. I will try to check back in but I'm heading into a busy day at work.

Sorry guys. I have moved from dying of thee plauge to being mortally wounded from the plague. I've spent all of my non working time in bed.

Quiet tranq still makes me nervous. I dislike choutus's misdirection about zeebs vote. He looks worse than wilgy to me atm.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

bea wrote:Ok zeeb I will follow. Tranq it is. He can call me a nub later if he so desires. It's my title and I wear it well.

I'm still dying. Work is stupid. I hate pizza.

Are you a member of mafia bea?

No. I am not. Also rip.

Ok zeeb I will follow. Tranq it is. He can call me a nub later if he so desires. It's my title and I wear it well.

I'm still dying. Work is stupid. I hate pizza.

You guys im still dying. I'm sorry. I'm trying to skim and make sense of everything but my brain just can't processes it. I have no idea who to vote for. My gut says quiet tranq is skerry. Dunno if it's enough for a vote bit definitely worth watching. I have no idea who to vote for. I am gut feeling ok about zee idk why peeps are suspecting her. Matt and Enrique feel ok to me too. ?? Regarding literally everyone else. I hate working when I'm sick. I'm pretty sure I have the plague.

Now I know I've had too many Toddys and night time meds because all I see is gibberish and colors.

I can't even and I have to oc tomorrow. Can someone please put things in easy for a 2 year old terms for me? I open/close tomorrow so my attention is going to get worse before it gets better...

I think in my hot toddy and cough syrup induced haze I agree with zeeb's points about marshynewt.

Oh god, I need my soup to be done so I can go to bed!!
The rest of it is starting to read like Russian to me.

RIP bcorrat and FZ.

You guys - I'm sick. I really need two days in bed but there's no one to cover for me. I'm fortifying with a hot toddy and some chicken soup and soooo many cold meds. Long story short, my brain cells are even weaker than normal right now.

Voting bcorrrnt if something better comes along before the lynch ends and I have time to see it I will vote tbere. For now it's Friday rush....

DrWilgy wrote:Idk, seems pretty relevant. I'd rather take a lynch on someone who isn't going to play than someone who isn't.

Also not being productive my ass! We are discussing babe, so the dance goes on!

When you get the chance FZ, what part of his post gives you the heebee-jeebies?

who do you think isn't playing?

Enrique wrote:Okay, wait, what? Since when is Bullzeye even playing You with us FZ?

Wilgy, it just seems odd that you'd give up on a productive Day 1 so quickly. Do I agree that RVS is preferable to No Lynch? Yeah, I get that, but voting for me at that point was opportunistic. As is, IMO, this whole Luke thing you guys are talking about. His vote is questionable insofar it tells us he hadn't read the thread. Big deal, but absolutely not a reason to be shifting all the attention his way.

I have missed you.

Enrique wrote:I really don't want to vote for Luke. But y'all better not let me die either

I'm gonna leave Wilgy a vote for now, because out of the candidates so far, he's the only one I can understand. Decent chance I'll still change it if something else comes up or if it's the only way to save myself.

linki: Wait what? You can just say that's not the case, but don't plat it off as if zebra didn't have a point. Having an early vote for the only person who's spoken up and has a vote already can be interpreted as being predatory as hell.

What's RVS? Did you guys really come up with all these new rules and names since the last time I played?

yes ricosuave - they really did. it's been an adjutment for me too. *shakes old lady cane again*

Matt F wrote:But bea, Luke also played LC's game.

I'm not playing lc's game or even trying to follow it. How would I know that?

Boomslang wrote:

Matt F wrote:Boomslang, Luke is pretty new to Mafia just so you know. He's played a few games but I think he's still getting the grasp of it.

Fair enough, and I'll take that under consideration. Still, even if he's new, he's had the same chance to study the thread and its arguments as the rest of us. The vote did come after all of that naysaying, so to ignore it is still making a statement.

he's so new...are you sure he read the thread and digested it like he should have??

And I"m going to correct matt too. He's not played "a few games'" he's played one. Epi's speed game- in which he's prolly going to be lynched.

He's as new and green as they come near as I can tell boom.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

bea wrote:thank you marshmotnewt.

That sounds like maffs that I am bad at.

It's basically the day phase where the civvies can't screw up or the game ends and they lose.

Yea...the maffs.

I'd like to say I have other qualities I bring to the game,but that's just silly. I wear my Queen Nub crown with relief that everyone finally gets how dumb I am.

but now I know to look for you all that are good at the maffs to point out when we are getting near there. Cuz I need all the help I can get!

a2thezebra wrote:I initially voted for DrWilgy as a joke but I don't dig this:

DrWilgy wrote:Enrique gets my vote for now. I don't think "no lynch" has ever been a fantastic option for civilians in any game I've played.

As I said, I don't understand why you would vote for someone for showing interest in something they are unaccustomed to, whether it's pro-town or not. It seems opportunistic and too easy.

that is a fair point. Thank you for reminding me of you having said it at the time it happened. I am cute *and* forgetful.

thank you marshmotnewt.

That sounds like maffs that I am bad at.

a2thezebra wrote:

Matt F wrote:Boomslang, Luke is pretty new to Mafia just so you know. He's played a few games but I think he's still getting the grasp of it.

Zebra...

a2thezebra wrote:I don't trust Wilgy.

Why not? Or were you just being funny?

vibes

residual vibes from TH? or something here?

TheFloyd73 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Come on Choutas, let's get 9,000 posts in this game. You and me.

If you manage to do that I will be immensely impressed.

Does anyone find Zebra changing her vote a number of times somewhat suspicious?

Linki - I second bcornett's statement about keeping posts to a minimum.

I don't find it suspicious this early. I'm not the greatest fan in the world of changeable votes for lots of reasons, but it seems to be the thing these days. *shakes cane* In my day we voted once and it meant something /old lady.
This early in the game, I'm guessing zeeb is voting people who catch her eye and also maybe voting lots to generate discussion. I don't see that as inherently bad. I would be far more worried about it if it were later in the cycle and she expressed any sort of non jokey reason for voting them.

Also - I'll likely respond to posts that happen while I can't look at the thread singularly like this. Sorry for all the spam.

linki- ohh! new stuff!!!

bcornett24 wrote:

Enrique wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:I don't either, but Enrique hasn't had any experience with it. Why suspect him?

^

I kinda figured I'd end up getting votes if it turned to be a historically bad idea, but it caught my eye and it's not like there's been a lot more to discuss, even now.

So basically we play it hardcore these games. It's pretty essential to be getting our lynches right from the start or we're toast. That makes sense. Hope to see more discussion before the poll's up.

Why did you suspect that you would be getting votes? Why is it a bad idea to vote for you?

because it's the first thing that's been said that wasn't jokey and could be jumped on? Just spitballin' here....

Metalmarsh89 wrote:You lose a lynch too. If we don't No_Lynch on Day 1, we get three more chances at a mislynch before LYLO hits. This is 4 chances total.

If we do No_Lynch on Day 1, we get three chances at a mislynch, then we hit LYLO where there are equal numbers town and mafia.

So the difference here is that we either lynch a player with little information on Day 1, or we put ourselves in a high risk situation in LYLO. I'd prefer the former of these, because mafia is almost guaranteed to win in the latter.

What is LYLO?

a2thezebra wrote:I've never seen it work in town's favor. Ever. You're more likely to pick a random player to lynch and get lucky than lynch no one and give scum a free night kill. That's essentially what "no lynch" is, it's surrendering to mafia.

I can see why a person new to the concept would like it though. It's essentially doing the same thing that people do when they random day 1. I admit, I was fascinated by the idea the first time I'd been exponsed to it till all the stuff that comes after this post was explained to me.

That said....I still random often on Day 1.

I see fz beat me to the puch. Carry on never mind. I need coffee.

Rico suave - no lynch is a thing on ksite. As far as I know it's the first time it's worked it's way over here.

Fair enough it is us.

a2thezebra wrote:

bea wrote:Awe....I love the smile album! Rip sock host please don't send us presents from the grave.

Why would he send you presents from the grave...unless you were the one who killed him!

bea

Cuz mp is the most host I've ever had the pleasure of playing for. I swear he takes an unnatural joy in killing his players.....

Awe....I love the smile album! Rip sock host please don't send us presents from the grave.