The Syndicate

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:21 am at some point you're going to have to figure out how nanook had info on made /without/ me giving him an invention but that's for another time

Already figured out, and explained in thread. Thanks though.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:16 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:14 am like if I'm a wolf there then I have no idea that nanook has info and thus have no reason to slow down the thread for the reason you're suggesting
No? You mean as wolf if someone comes into the thread asking about your wolf-buddy, your wolf ears don't perk up?
nearly every other post on that page is me and urist talking about doom's claim

It sounds like you were very cognizant of the situation. Why did you want people to take a 3 hour pause given the information in thread?

@TonyStarkPrime why should Urist believe you over me?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 4:14 am like if I'm a wolf there then I have no idea that nanook has info and thus have no reason to slow down the thread for the reason you're suggesting

No? You mean as wolf if someone comes into the thread asking about your wolf-buddy, your wolf ears don't perk up?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:55 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:49 pm Did I miss something and doom claim cop
a scan of her iso suggested she was the "New Reno or not" cop

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:57 pm I think instead of posting, for three hours today we should all just take a second to read through the setup, figure out our win conditions, figure out our powers, and then come back.

Time stamps say all here. TSP KNEW what Nook was asking, had digested it enough to look at DoO's iso, and a few minutes afterwards trying to take 3 HOURS out of the game for people to do things such as "figure out win conditions" (i.e. turn town against town).

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:55 am this is all neglecting that if I were a wolf I don't know why I would be calling for the town to start getting more on top of things

You don't see the merit in trying to slow the thread down after someone starts targeting a wolfmate?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:51 am 1. c4 c6
2. Nf3 d5
3. e3 Nf6
4. Nc3

Bg4

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:50 am i ithink you're both completely neglecting the thread state at that point and taking far too seriously what I was asking for

So you were following the threadstate, right? Did you see Nook's post before you posted?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:41 am that's definitely not a possible move

Sorry, I meant Nf6

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:34 am I think you're talking about the post where I said that everyone should take a minute to look over their roles, which again. Was before Nanook had claimed anything mechanical. You're also going to come across a post where I say that the only order of business for the day should be made claiming in response to nook's mech claim, however, I suspect that you'll ignore that one.

It was 3 hours, not a minute, and it was shortly after Nook came into the thread asking about DoO. I concede that It was before Nook actually claimed mech info, but if you gave Nook an invention N1, you would assume Nook used it N2, so with Nook coming into the thread asking info about what DoO claimed... I have a hard time thinking that town!you asks the thread to take a 3 hour pause to think about roles, alignments and abilities.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:58 pm 1. c4 c6
2. Nf3 d5
3. e3

Nb6

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:27 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:25 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:15 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:14 am there were two wolf slips in the thread by that point sir i don't think it takes a genius
Apparently you are a genius since you knew all these people were indeed wolfs, and these things were indeed wolf slips days before flips confirmed all this.
perhaps i knew that nanook probably had mech info on made because i had provided him with the proper accoutrements and perhaps I knew chop was a wolf because he was the most wolfy human being who has ever stepped foot into a mafia thread
Perhaps, but I think for at least the first few hours of the day that Nook claims mech, we should probably NOT focus on that, and instead revisit roles, and alignments, make sure that town is targeting town, and all those other good things.

Or should we not spend a few hours looking that over... when the person that you should know has mech info... outs mech info?

I do not understand what you are saying

I was teasing you, but that's okay. Pretty much everything I write is actually for Urist's benefit, not yours. Please feel free to keep responding though, I think it is helping town.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:15 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:14 am there were two wolf slips in the thread by that point sir i don't think it takes a genius
Apparently you are a genius since you knew all these people were indeed wolfs, and these things were indeed wolf slips days before flips confirmed all this.
perhaps i knew that nanook probably had mech info on made because i had provided him with the proper accoutrements and perhaps I knew chop was a wolf because he was the most wolfy human being who has ever stepped foot into a mafia thread

Perhaps, but I think for at least the first few hours of the day that Nook claims mech, we should probably NOT focus on that, and instead revisit roles, and alignments, make sure that town is targeting town, and all those other good things.

Or should we not spend a few hours looking that over... when the person that you should know has mech info... outs mech info?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:16 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:14 am @TonyStarkPrime, how worried are you right now about the outcome of the game?
i was reading day 3 back just now and I got slightly worried that urist has been pocketing me for half the game but I'm not all that worried

If TSP was town right now, he would have mentioned that he was worried that I (someone he should see as outed scum) might outplay him and get Urist to vote him. TSP is viewing the game with TMI on me (any town player's first concern in this situation would be their biggest scumread (me) convincing the other person they are correct, not that their scumread might be wrong (this could be a secondary concern, but not their first concern)).

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:14 am there were two wolf slips in the thread by that point sir i don't think it takes a genius

Apparently you are a genius since you knew all these people were indeed wolfs, and these things were indeed wolf slips days before flips confirmed all this.

@TonyStarkPrime, how worried are you right now about the outcome of the game?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:11 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:08 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:07 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:06 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:00 am “Now that I understand how I’ve been caught I’m going to say that I’m not claiming the role that outs me”

I’d be more inclined to believe it if it was an immediate claim (and an actual claim) but ya know
Just bc I don't get all the claim stuff bc I haven't fully read the roles...

Wouldn't BTSC help him or do you think this is a play beyond that.
depends on how on top of it the wolves are. my general feel is the answer to that question is "not very"
why's that?
Just a general thread feel. There have been multiple botched info moments where it seems likely that a wolf was involved -- this being one of them, the chop situation yesterday, just the fact that it feels like no one in the game has read the setup.
TSP just erupting with TMI.

This is prior to 1st wolf flip btw. TSP already seems to know that the wolves are not on top of things in wolf chat. Very strange considering.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:08 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:07 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:06 am
Dom wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:04 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:00 am “Now that I understand how I’ve been caught I’m going to say that I’m not claiming the role that outs me”

I’d be more inclined to believe it if it was an immediate claim (and an actual claim) but ya know
Just bc I don't get all the claim stuff bc I haven't fully read the roles...

Wouldn't BTSC help him or do you think this is a play beyond that.
depends on how on top of it the wolves are. my general feel is the answer to that question is "not very"
why's that?
Just a general thread feel. There have been multiple botched info moments where it seems likely that a wolf was involved -- this being one of them, the chop situation yesterday, just the fact that it feels like no one in the game has read the setup.

TSP just erupting with TMI.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:57 pm I think instead of posting, for three hours today we should all just take a second to read through the setup, figure out our win conditions, figure out our powers, and then come back.

This was TSP's entrance into D3, shortly after Nook started heavily pressuring DoO, the same Nook that TSP apparently now claims had an invention. Why is TSP trying to SLOW DOWN the thread here when TSP SHOULD know that Nook has an invention saying DoO is bad?

(Also, PSA, if Nook claims info right away, it is probably fake to get reactions. Occasionally not, but usually if he has REAL info, he waits a bit to see what else goes on instead of first-post-of-the-day claiming info)

If scum has been playing as badly as TSP has tried to convince town that scum is playing, why are we in F3?

I just got to the part of the story where DoO claims Westin.

My earlier comment about TSP having an inventor claim still stands! Why?

What are the chances that scum burns TWO fakeclaims on their first outed wolf? (DoO/Made) ... and that THOSE TWO CLAIMS ARE BOTH NCR?

DoO claimed Westin, Made eventually reneged on that claim, but still claimed a NCR role, which "conveniently" happened to be one which would pass many of the cop checks in this game. Scum guessed that Zeke wasn't present (Made's slot was going down anyways, claiming Zeke only has positive value for scum there).

TSP's inventor claim is the REAL fakeclaim provided to Jack. No way Zeke was truly a fakeclaim given to scum, given the circumstances around DoO's Westin claim and Made's backpedalling Zeke claim.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:07 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:04 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:03 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:00 pm Are we still at Chop and Rej are both maphier? Anything fun happen in the last 10 pages?
Falcon got modkilled due to some error or accident.

He was JJJ, claiming Alison was slaver or something.

Before it, Grogu was claiming Falcon was scum due to something mech.
What's that mean for Alison and Grogu?

Or have we not covered that yet?
Alison, we’re back to square one. Not worth poking the beehive. We don’t know if Falcon actually had anything on Alison so it’s hard to say. Grogu is probably town, the whole thing seemed reasonably executed.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:00 pm Like it’s incredibly arrogant for me to say “it’s impossible for me to even start to reevaluate on Chop let’s just get rid of him” but what else can I do

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:56 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:56 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:54 pm Please chop obvious wolf Chop or else i might have to deal with him tomorrow. Chopping obvious wolf Rej is nice and all too though
You're just tunneled over one guy's incapacity to think like you do.
Yes.

Or just TMI

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:10 pm
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:18 am
Grogu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:20 am Has falcon claimed anything? I have reasons to believe he is a baddie
Do tell.

Lemme guess, your scum chat has told you I've been calling you out for days now, and you'd better make a soft claim re: his role?

I'm all ears dude. This'll be good
No. More like I was annoyed why you were pushing me since I am town and claimed as such. Then I targeted you and there’s something you not telling us. So I now know you are scum based on this. Therefore I want to kill you now, you picked on the baby but I have powers and I will end you. Kindly
I am town and claimed as such, new best line

@Urist Have I convinced you yet that TSP is a wolf? because if not, I'm majorly failing here, since we are going to lose if you don't realize this. (note: this is sarcasm, but the bad kind of sarcasm which hurts because it is true - I do need you to be convinced of this, but I don't think I'm doing a good job of convincing you)

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:28 pm Small world, I'm also from Michigan.

Which literally is basically just Canada. I lived in Canada for a year, and the only things I found different were that they said "aboat" (not aboot, even though there are places from Canada that say it that way), and they pronounce the word "process" differently depending on if it is a noun or a verb. Oh, and lots of extra u's and the word "cheque", which was clearly designed to be deliberatively excessive. I also found out that their "niceness" is just veiled passive-aggressiveness that Americans don't pick up on, but otherwise the country is pretty awesome... except if you look at their historical treatment of indigenous peoples... :/ But as an American, I really can't judge.

Small world, I'm also from Michigan.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:23 pm here ya go

Thanks

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:20 pmI did?

Is MTG Mysterious Universe?

@TonyStarkPrime Are you ever going to link that game I asked for? I would really appreciate it.

Literally the fact that Marmot died should be a big red flag. Urist expressed only thoughts about me!scum and TSP wanted to end the day yesterday when it was clear I would have been the yeet.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:11 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 pm Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.
no, first to claim was chop, second to claim was made.
Whatever, My slot was an early claim, yours was last. You had time to prepare. You got to see Marmot's info before you claimed.

You held out BECAUSE you knew Marmot's claim was true. You said you would claim after Marmot did, and he did, but a few days went by. You only claimed after hearing his info. Marmot was more clear than you simply by balancing. You should have claimed first, and let Marmot check you, but you didn't. Why? Oh I wonder...

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:07 pm Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.
no, first to claim was chop, second to claim was made.

Whatever, My slot was an early claim, yours was last. You had time to prepare. You got to see Marmot's info before you claimed.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:06 pm Noo, this inventor stuff is just a sham. Marmot caught you, and you wiggled out. Your fakeclaim is not Marge.

@TonyStarkPrime "Dangerous Dan McGrew" I see you.

Last to claim... damn convenient. @Urist , my slot was FIRST to claim. TSP was LAST to claim. Please use this information accordingly.

Noo, this inventor stuff is just a sham. Marmot caught you, and you wiggled out. Your fakeclaim is not Marge.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:51 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.
So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.
the wolf team already fakeclaimed an inventor
Can you elaborate? I'm guessing you're right since you wouldn't claim this right now if not, but I am a rep in, so please fill me in.
They claimed... Zeke? Was it?

I'm guessing "they" is Made/DoO?

TSP, weird question...

Earlier when you posted Marmot's NK data, in your analysis you labeled the possibility that scum shooting Alison as unlikely, but you didn't label the possibility of scum intentially blocking their own shot as unlikely... chasing a bit of a tinfoil here, but is that like... something that people do? I am relatively new to mafia (probably about 15 games or so), so idk if that is like a known strategy or not.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:46 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.
So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.
the wolf team already fakeclaimed an inventor

Can you elaborate? I'm guessing you're right since you wouldn't claim this right now if not, but I am a rep in, so please fill me in.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:45 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:44 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:37 pm also, from your side, this is the logic I thought through that would implicate marmot. and that didn't work out
You talking about Marmot feels dirty since it seems pretty clear you killed him since Urist was more set on me than Marmot (who was suspicious of me, but made it clear he was going to re-evaluate everything today and hadn't done his due diligence on you yet).
i uh don't think this is a reasonable assessment of where marmot was in the thread by the end of yesterday

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 11:10 am Sean's iso looks a lot better than Syn and Poison. If he's the final Enclave, he's making matters very difficult.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:22 pm I'm just going to operate under the assumpion that sean is mafia rn, and let him NK either TSP or Urist so I can iso the other one tomorrow instead. If I'm NK'd, then y'all at least have some work done for you on sean/poison/syn.

If sean's NK'd, I'll just reevaluate tomorrow.

[VOTE: No Yeet] aubergine

Tell me more about where Marmot was in the thread yesterday vs. where you or Urist was in the thread.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:37 pm also, from your side, this is the logic I thought through that would implicate marmot. and that didn't work out

You talking about Marmot feels dirty since it seems pretty clear you killed him since Urist was more set on me than Marmot (who was suspicious of me, but made it clear he was going to re-evaluate everything today and hadn't done his due diligence on you yet).

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:34 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:31 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.
Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?
bad news, jack flipped inventor. and he didn't claim my role. because I had it.

So he did. Sorry, my last few days IRL was very hectic, and when I realized this game was ongoing yesterday(gameday), I just voted sleep, and didn't follow much (I mean, I read the posts, but I didn't really think at all about the game, or apparently even look at what Jack flipped...).

Honestly think this looks even worse for you though, since Jack's fakeclaim SHOULD have been your role. You switched fakeclaims. Not all of them line up, but the fact that Chop fakeclaimed the role he did, the fact that Alison fakeclaimed the role she did, and things like the Redding doc being clear cover for the other slaver role really point to roles being matched up.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:24 pm Town:

doppelgangsters
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewforum.php?f=276

I'm fuskdall here, this was a good game.

GOC 2020:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... =42&t=2044

think I got modkilled here. whoops.

Wolf:

Nanook is a bastard:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 276&t=2012

MTG:
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 276&t=2063

I subbed in day 3 here, so YMMV. the previous wolf game was the aforementioned mysterious universe.

Were you scum in Mysterious Universe? Also, if possible, could you link that one too?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 8:29 pm Grogu vaguely claimed information on day 2 that implied that falcon had targeted alison. barring this being a shot in the dark and a wolf claiming information based on nothing for no reason, my guess is that somehow grogu either knew that falcon targeted alison or at least knew falcon or alison's role or something that would lead to him making this conclusion.

Grogu had an inventor handing him inventions, didn't he?

Most of the wolf fakeclaims MAKE SENSE for them, like the BoS messenger and the wolf messenger.

Tony's claim is that the last wolf must be a tracker, but if that was the case, the tracker's fakeclaim would have to be Marmot.

Wolves have an inventor though, and you know what role is perfect cover for an inventor? An inventor.

Everything is in the setup, all the information is there. There are clear fakeclaim pairs for pretty much everyone in Enclave, VC, and slaver, JUST LIKE JJJ designed it!

The wolves talked about inventors multiple times. They knew one existed. Grogu used inventions almost assuredly. Neither Nook nor Sloonei made indications that they used inventions. Why wouldn't they hint if it meant possibly clearing someone?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:16 pm Alison my feeling is that in Mysterious Universe I intentionally gave wide SRs and shorter posts to flood the thread. I had 20 percent of the total posts in that game or something. Here I’ve posted less and longer (part due to circumstance) and I’ve taken more deliberate stances in the thread.
though here's the real lol

Were you scum in Mysterious Universe?

Also, would you mind linking your past two town games and past two scum games?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:05 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.
I'm a student. I do a whole lot of things usually, but I go on spring break in two minutes so hopefully I'll have an opportunity to catch up on sleep
What do you study?
Music, math, philosophy. Sometimes international political economy on the side.
Cool, I'm a mathematician (on the art side of mathematics, not the science side), and philosophy was always one of those things that I could have seen myself doing, if it wasn't for math.
it's all the art side

I mean, I agree with you, but some others wouldn't, and I can see the points they make, and I can also usually tell which side people are on if I work with them for a little bit.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:00 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:56 pm What do you do IRL TSP? I'm seeing you talk about math problems in your ISO, and earlier you mentioned Kant, so I am curious.
I'm a student. I do a whole lot of things usually, but I go on spring break in two minutes so hopefully I'll have an opportunity to catch up on sleep
What do you study?
Music, math, philosophy. Sometimes international political economy on the side.

Cool, I'm a mathematician (on the art side of mathematics, not the science side), and philosophy was always one of those things that I could have seen myself doing, if it wasn't for math.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm Honestly like normally I'm not the kind of person to demand townreads or all that but I think that this is pretty pure serious towny tsp tone. I dunno if we've played in any games together where you would have seen that but I think a tone argument is questionable. You had an early SR on me for being jumpy and light, trying to imitate my normal style as I do when I'm a wolf. I don't think that corresponds to reality.

Lol.

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